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2020-11-26 11:26:27 AM  
39 votes:
FTA:
In a statement to NBC Los Angeles, a Caltrans spokesperson said the homes were "unsafe and uninhabitable."

So clearly the only solution is to have several officers in swat gear pin and cuff a terrified little homeless kid.

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2020-11-26 4:12:16 PM  
35 votes:

King Something: Homeless people being told they're not allowed to live in otherwise unoccupied homes.

'Murica.


IIR from a thyread earlier in the year, there are 10X more vacant, bank and state owned homes like these than there are homeless people (probably more). That's late-stage capitalism for you.
 
2020-11-26 11:29:28 AM  
31 votes:
Homeless people being told they're not allowed to live in otherwise unoccupied homes.

'Murica.
 
2020-11-26 3:03:25 PM  
24 votes:
Other clips showed officers in riot gear apparently using battering rams to gain entry into some houses

Ah, sounds like they definitely weren't white else they'd have been sent dildoes and allowed to stay for a month without repercussions.
 
2020-11-26 4:22:43 PM  
20 votes:
So do the cops do this on Thanksgiving because they are cruel? Or do they do it to get that  sweet holiday extra- pay because they are greedy? Or both?
 
2020-11-26 4:19:20 PM  
19 votes:
The cruelty is the point
 
2020-11-26 4:17:34 PM  
19 votes:
When those cops are on their deathbed, I pray someone shows a video of what they've done on repeat.
 
2020-11-26 5:07:14 PM  
17 votes:
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2020-11-26 4:13:12 PM  
17 votes:

King Something: Homeless people being told they're not allowed to live in otherwise unoccupied homes.

'Murica.


Everywhere.

And I'm not sure I want to live in a place that doesn't recognized property rights.

We need to house the homeless somehow. Legalized squatting is probably not the solution.
 
2020-11-26 4:44:57 PM  
15 votes:

Smackledorfer: ParallelUniverseParking: So do the cops do this on Thanksgiving because they are cruel? Or do they do it to get that  sweet holiday extra- pay because they are greedy? Or both?

Are you arguing holiday pay is wrong, or that public services should shut down on holidays?

I'm not a cop. I'm getting holiday pay right now while not working. Some of my coworkers are working and getting extra pay. If we all requested today off, they would force some of us to work based on seniority. I imagine it is essentially the same for police.

I don't see how greed factors into working a holiday at a job where some are mandated to work holidays.


Some jobs have to be done during the holidays. An eviction does not. An eviction takes extra manpower. This can't be pulled of "on the side" by cops who had to work anyway.  The squatters were there before Thanksgiving. They would have been there after Thanksgiving. This seems deliberate.
 
2020-11-26 5:19:40 PM  
14 votes:
Frontline Healthcare workers fighting a pandemic forced to wear trash bags because they can't afford PPE.

Police in full riot gear evicting children from homes.

This is America.
 
2020-11-26 4:14:50 PM  
13 votes:
Ah, the comments.  Apparently the homeless should just buy themselves more money, but they are in fact too lazy to bother.
 
2020-11-26 4:20:35 PM  
12 votes:

Smackledorfer: Smackledorfer: Smoking GNU: King Something: Homeless people being told they're not allowed to live in otherwise unoccupied homes.

'Murica.

IIR from a thyread earlier in the year, there are 10X more vacant, bank and state owned homes like these than there are homeless people (probably more). That's late-stage capitalism for you.

In namibia is it legal to steal a home that isn't lived in?

Also, do people saying this tripe believe squatters will do anything other than destroy the property?


There are better ways of dealing with it than this.
 
2020-11-26 4:19:42 PM  
12 votes:
And then theres still people who believe that cops would side with the people if Trump decided to stay in the white house and told Biden to get farked.

LOL
 
2020-11-26 5:38:56 PM  
11 votes:

1funguy: What about all that empty office space?
A lot of those buildings already have laundry, restaurants, bodegas on site.

All the money they save on the dumass  holiday parades should be used for this!

Businesses could sell the thing before it becomes stand alone medical facilities after Thanksgiving.


The problems with giving stuff to the homeless is they destroy it. No, not all homeless people are mentally ill, but enough are that meaningfully addressing the problem requires a hell of a lot more than tossing buildings at them.

Whatever your thoughts on the evils of money or capitalism, this is true. Whatever your views on greed or whatever, there is enough land for people to have multiple properties and enough wood and metal to erect an extra house.

This problem is huge, and apparently people in this thread have about zero understanding of it. People owning two buildings isn't the problem. Letting squatters steal stuff isn't the solution.
 
2020-11-26 7:23:52 PM  
9 votes:

Fark_Guy_Rob: King Something: Homeless people being told they're not allowed to live in otherwise unoccupied homes.

'Murica.

At first glance, sure... This seems crazy.

Until you give a bunch of homeless people access to otherwise unoccupied homes and see what happens to the houses and neighborhood.


Homeless people threads are so weird.

A bunch of people who don't invite the homeless to live in their house demand a bunch of other people do so. Then they shiat on every government worker who has to actually deal with the homeless. Then next week they'll tell you how much they love their favorite actor, who sits on millions of dollars in a 5,000 square foot mansion. Or they'll tell you about their vacation plans. Or they'll have a Fark profile with a map of all the places they spent thousands traveling to and exploring. They'll show you their motorcycle, their motorhome, their horses. They'll tell you how they have skied down all the best mountains. They'll talk about the craft beers they buy. Maybe you'll see them post in a car thread about their sports car.

At the end of the day most of us could get by with less and give it to the homeless. We don't. We don't believe it would actually help. I know I don't. Or we save it so we can reture. I know that's where my extra money goes. Maybe that makes me a shiatbag. That's on me.

But I also don't go into these threads and cry crocodile tears while announcing how ethical and caring I am, and how everyone else is evil for not giving a house to a bum.  There are some truly selfless folks out there. Make sure you are one of them before talking that talk, imo.
 
2020-11-26 4:19:45 PM  
9 votes:
Squatters Rights do not infringe on Property Rights. Do not own more property than you can manage, it's really that simple.
 
2020-11-26 5:51:38 PM  
8 votes:
You know, they could have just... Not done this. Lined up housing for these families, and knocked on the door and given them the keys to a better place, or just put it off until such a place was available. But they had to make an example.

Literally we are protecting property rights over people's wellbeing. The homes are not owned by "someone" they are owned by the state... They are unused public (literally publicly owned) property while people are living in tents and on the street.

The very basic necessities are food and shelter. A system built on using denial of shelter to enforce the social codes and hierarchy is pretty trash, and that's what we have. We have the resources to provide shelter to everyone, but we don't.
 
2020-11-26 4:37:19 PM  
8 votes:
Undesirables seeking shelter in an unoccupied dwelling, EXTERMINATE!!!!!
 
2020-11-26 4:22:52 PM  
8 votes:

pastramithemosterotic: The cruelty is the point


Odd, I have you farkied as "defends janitors earning sub-living wages"

I don't have a thread number so if that is a bad farkie let me know and I'll change it. I don't see how someone can simultaneously want janitors and other low level staff to be wage slaves while complaining that those without jobs don't get to steal homes.

So, again, maybe my farkie is wrong and needs adjusting.
 
2020-11-26 4:10:55 PM  
8 votes:

koder: Other clips showed officers in riot gear apparently using battering rams to gain entry into some houses

Ah, sounds like they definitely weren't white else they'd have been sent dildoes and allowed to stay for a month without repercussions.


Perhaps they should have had the foresight to get lots of guns.
 
2020-11-26 4:15:11 PM  
7 votes:

Smackledorfer: Smoking GNU: King Something: Homeless people being told they're not allowed to live in otherwise unoccupied homes.

'Murica.

IIR from a thyread earlier in the year, there are 10X more vacant, bank and state owned homes like these than there are homeless people (probably more). That's late-stage capitalism for you.

In namibia is it legal to steal a home that isn't lived in?


Also, do people saying this tripe believe squatters will do anything other than destroy the property?
 
2020-11-26 6:07:08 PM  
6 votes:
Police are stormtroopers in the class war against the poor.

#ACAB
 
2020-11-26 5:13:15 PM  
6 votes:
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Go back and watch Roger & Me ... The police were out evicting people on Christmas Eve (i think)
 
2020-11-26 4:57:08 PM  
6 votes:
All cops are bastards.
 
2020-11-26 4:27:47 PM  
6 votes:

pastramithemosterotic: Smackledorfer: pastramithemosterotic: The cruelty is the point

Odd, I have you farkied as "defends janitors earning sub-living wages"

I don't have a thread number so if that is a bad farkie let me know and I'll change it. I don't see how someone can simultaneously want janitors and other low level staff to be wage slaves while complaining that those without jobs don't get to steal homes.

So, again, maybe my farkie is wrong and needs adjusting.

I troll and act like a dick for no reason sometimes, so that's probably why


I've gotten better as of late though. Giving this whole "be a decent human being" business a try
 
2020-11-26 4:26:58 PM  
6 votes:

jso2897: koder: Other clips showed officers in riot gear apparently using battering rams to gain entry into some houses

Ah, sounds like they definitely weren't white else they'd have been sent dildoes and allowed to stay for a month without repercussions.


Perhaps they should have had the foresight to get lots of guns be born white.

FTFA (fixed that for Amerika)

1. Be caucasians
2. Be white
3. Don't be non-white
 
2020-11-26 4:27:40 PM  
5 votes:
But who will think of the lawsuits? Are the lawsuits okay?

Uninhabitable just meant we don't want to deal with any liability so we'll instead make all their lives infinitely worse ... because of the potential lawsuits. They are just monsters for doing this.
 
2020-11-26 4:25:49 PM  
5 votes:

Smackledorfer: pastramithemosterotic: The cruelty is the point

Odd, I have you farkied as "defends janitors earning sub-living wages"

I don't have a thread number so if that is a bad farkie let me know and I'll change it. I don't see how someone can simultaneously want janitors and other low level staff to be wage slaves while complaining that those without jobs don't get to steal homes.

So, again, maybe my farkie is wrong and needs adjusting.


I troll and act like a dick for no reason sometimes, so that's probably why
 
2020-11-26 4:14:03 PM  
5 votes:

Smoking GNU: King Something: Homeless people being told they're not allowed to live in otherwise unoccupied homes.

'Murica.

IIR from a thyread earlier in the year, there are 10X more vacant, bank and state owned homes like these than there are homeless people (probably more). That's late-stage capitalism for you.


In namibia is it legal to steal a home that isn't lived in?
 
2020-11-26 7:49:39 PM  
4 votes:

1funguy: Smackledorfer: 1funguy: What about all that empty office space?
A lot of those buildings already have laundry, restaurants, bodegas on site.

All the money they save on the dumass  holiday parades should be used for this!

Businesses could sell the thing before it becomes stand alone medical facilities after Thanksgiving.

The problems with giving stuff to the homeless is they destroy it. No, not all homeless people are mentally ill, but enough are that meaningfully addressing the problem requires a hell of a lot more than tossing buildings at them.

Whatever your thoughts on the evils of money or capitalism, this is true. Whatever your views on greed or whatever, there is enough land for people to have multiple properties and enough wood and metal to erect an extra house.

This problem is huge, and apparently people in this thread have about zero understanding of it. People owning two buildings isn't the problem. Letting squatters steal stuff isn't the solution.

I wholeheartedly agree.
I have proposed a short term solution to a long term problem that would certainly need quite a bit of fine tuning.

However, the property owner with an unserviceable debt due to the coronavirus may wish to unload a property.
The homeless at a "particular" level of reason may be encouraged by an option previously unavailable.

A problem solver considers options, not consequences.
Consequences are best discussed in an effort to minimize damage, not to limit further consideration.

Or we could just go back to having parades, blighted properties, and homelessness at epic proportions.


It's not even about property owners though. If the state or a city wants to buy property, or build property, they can.

Most true housing shortages are due to local regulations. Most things we call a shortage are just prices being high due to how great it is to live there. How many people on this forum have called Michigan a shiathole? I've lost count. But I can afford a house here. I could afford one as a waiter.

But we've got a thread shiatting on cops for something they have no real say in. Other agencies determine who can legally live where and who gets eviction notices. Voters elect governments without caring about their solutions for the homeless.

The fact is by and large we just don't care about the homeless. If we did, we'd be doing stuff about it. There is no shortage of times to shiat on police, and they deserve it. I don't view this as one of those times.

Making this about vile owners of empty property is the very definition of passing the buck. Either we stop it with us, or we get off our high horse. We don't get to pass that buck and then proclaim we have solutions or that we care more than our actions reveal.

I'm not saying you are blaming property owners, fwiw. A bunch of people own empty office space. So what? They have every right to, and should have every right to. There is plenty of money and resources for them to do so AND for us to build/buy housing for the homeless, is all I'm saying.
 
2020-11-26 4:24:49 PM  
4 votes:

blondambition: Smackledorfer: Smackledorfer: Smoking GNU: King Something: Homeless people being told they're not allowed to live in otherwise unoccupied homes.

'Murica.

IIR from a thyread earlier in the year, there are 10X more vacant, bank and state owned homes like these than there are homeless people (probably more). That's late-stage capitalism for you.

In namibia is it legal to steal a home that isn't lived in?

Also, do people saying this tripe believe squatters will do anything other than destroy the property?

There are better ways of dealing with it than this.


Sure. That's not the argument gnu was making though.
 
2020-11-27 4:01:37 PM  
3 votes:

Maximsoldier: Gaylord Q. Tinkledink: Police are stormtroopers in the class war against the poor.

#ACAB

tard


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2020-11-27 6:11:41 AM  
3 votes:

RedComrade: No other species goes out of its way to attack and hamper members of it own community.


Lol
 
2020-11-26 11:01:32 PM  
3 votes:

Smackledorfer: Homeless people threads are so weird.
A bunch of people who don't invite the homeless to live in their house demand a bunch of other people do so. Then they shiat on every government worker who has to actually deal with the homeless.


This is an accurate and applause worthy way of describing fark homeless threads in a concise manner.  They are basically a virtue signalling opportunity for posers.
 
2020-11-26 10:52:49 PM  
3 votes:
To be honest (instead of faux outraged), the list of homeless facilities in the LA area is pages long.  And LA also converted city owned recreational centers to be socially distanced, and properly sanitized after use, homeless facilities back in April.  In addition, during the winter months, LA opens even more facilities.  There are also women only facilities.  And some of the homeless facilities partner with food banks for regular food distribution.

The main difference is you can't get drunk or do drugs, in an overtly obvious way, in the free to the public facilities.
 
2020-11-26 9:12:48 PM  
3 votes:
Point being, Don't move into a home that is not yours.
 
2020-11-26 6:52:53 PM  
3 votes:
Are there no workhouses?!

I don't think I could look at myself in the mirror if I was a cop and had to do this. It takes a special kind of ahole to do this at the holidays.
 
2020-11-26 5:34:03 PM  
3 votes:

ParallelUniverseParking: Smackledorfer: ParallelUniverseParking: So do the cops do this on Thanksgiving because they are cruel? Or do they do it to get that  sweet holiday extra- pay because they are greedy? Or both?

Are you arguing holiday pay is wrong, or that public services should shut down on holidays?

I'm not a cop. I'm getting holiday pay right now while not working. Some of my coworkers are working and getting extra pay. If we all requested today off, they would force some of us to work based on seniority. I imagine it is essentially the same for police.

I don't see how greed factors into working a holiday at a job where some are mandated to work holidays.

Some jobs have to be done during the holidays. An eviction does not. An eviction takes extra manpower. This can't be pulled of "on the side" by cops who had to work anyway.  The squatters were there before Thanksgiving. They would have been there after Thanksgiving. This seems deliberate.


Ok. You claimed cops working holidays were greedy.

If you meant some cop stuff should be delayed due to holidays, that's entirely different.

Cops show up to work on holidays for obvious reasons. Cops do cop stuff because they are cops. I'm sure they'd rather their holiday workdays involve not working. :)

If you have no issues with holiday pay or essential workers, fair enough.
 
2020-11-26 5:02:21 PM  
3 votes:
Thanks Gavin.
 
2020-11-26 4:42:17 PM  
3 votes:
What about all that empty office space?
A lot of those buildings already have laundry, restaurants, bodegas on site.

All the money they save on the dumass  holiday parades should be used for this!

Businesses could sell the thing before it becomes stand alone medical facilities after Thanksgiving.
 
2020-11-26 4:35:22 PM  
3 votes:
Newsome could regain some support if he sided with the families. Might make people forgive him for his French Laundry outing
 
2020-11-27 12:24:35 PM  
2 votes:
There should be a working test....work your ass off get a house....peter out and you lose....be a bum an do shiat and you get a cardboard box
 
2020-11-27 1:31:51 AM  
2 votes:
Nothing like a fark thread on the evictions of homeless children by the police state by people with full stomachs a warm home with the lights on.

You people are the reason the human race doesn't deserve to dominate life on this planet. No other species goes out of its way to attack and hamper members of it own community.  You are disgusting and you should be ashamed of what type of person you are.
 
2020-11-27 12:06:26 AM  
2 votes:

cryinoutloud: Smackledorfer: There is plenty of money and resources for them to do so AND for us to build/buy housing for the homeless, is all I'm saying.

No. There really isn't. Just because you don't see the costs......
the homeless sure do.


Should people save for retirement?

If so, where should they out their savings?

/Until you answer I'll never give you the time of day.
 
2020-11-26 11:29:30 PM  
2 votes:

Smackledorfer: There is plenty of money and resources for them to do so AND for us to build/buy housing for the homeless, is all I'm saying.


No. There really isn't. Just because you don't see the costs......
the homeless sure do.
 
2020-11-26 7:33:05 PM  
2 votes:

Smackledorfer: 1funguy: What about all that empty office space?
A lot of those buildings already have laundry, restaurants, bodegas on site.

All the money they save on the dumass  holiday parades should be used for this!

Businesses could sell the thing before it becomes stand alone medical facilities after Thanksgiving.

The problems with giving stuff to the homeless is they destroy it. No, not all homeless people are mentally ill, but enough are that meaningfully addressing the problem requires a hell of a lot more than tossing buildings at them.

Whatever your thoughts on the evils of money or capitalism, this is true. Whatever your views on greed or whatever, there is enough land for people to have multiple properties and enough wood and metal to erect an extra house.

This problem is huge, and apparently people in this thread have about zero understanding of it. People owning two buildings isn't the problem. Letting squatters steal stuff isn't the solution.


I wholeheartedly agree.
I have proposed a short term solution to a long term problem that would certainly need quite a bit of fine tuning.

However, the property owner with an unserviceable debt due to the coronavirus may wish to unload a property.
The homeless at a "particular" level of reason may be encouraged by an option previously unavailable.

A problem solver considers options, not consequences.
Consequences are best discussed in an effort to minimize damage, not to limit further consideration.

Or we could just go back to having parades, blighted properties, and homelessness at epic proportions.
 
2020-11-26 7:14:42 PM  
2 votes:
The problem is enormous, There are approximently 60,000 homeless in Los Angeles county, 30,000 In Los Angeles city and around 40,000 throughout the rest of California.
 
2020-11-26 6:10:30 PM  
2 votes:
Is occupying a publically owned wildlife reserve still bad?
 
2020-11-26 5:40:04 PM  
2 votes:
Don't like this? Don't vote for Gavin Newsom.

Don't live in California, why should he care? Your popular vote doesn't mean squat to the Electoral College when he runs for President.
 
2020-11-26 5:16:33 PM  
2 votes:
A possible solution to the homeless problem is to let them live in all the shut down restaurants. LA has a least 30,000 closed because of the virus. Electricity and water are hooked up and plenty of food in the fridge. Personally, I'd head up to northern California to the above mention French Laundry place...free pricey food and get laundry done too. And the Gov has been know to show up and may offer menu suggestions.
 
2020-11-26 4:27:40 PM  
2 votes:

ParallelUniverseParking: So do the cops do this on Thanksgiving because they are cruel? Or do they do it to get that  sweet holiday extra- pay because they are greedy? Or both?


Are you arguing holiday pay is wrong, or that public services should shut down on holidays?

I'm not a cop. I'm getting holiday pay right now while not working. Some of my coworkers are working and getting extra pay. If we all requested today off, they would force some of us to work based on seniority. I imagine it is essentially the same for police.

I don't see how greed factors into working a holiday at a job where some are mandated to work holidays.
 
2020-11-27 12:34:37 PM  
1 vote:

Gaylord Q. Tinkledink: Police are stormtroopers in the class war against the poor.

#ACAB


tard
 
2020-11-27 4:20:12 AM  
1 vote:

Autoerotic Defenestration: [Fark user image 568x440]


Proposition 13 took that away in the late 70s. I'm too lazy to look it up to see if empty homes get some sort of exemption.
 
2020-11-27 2:28:01 AM  
1 vote:

ThrobblefootSpectre: To be honest (instead of faux outraged), the list of homeless facilities in the LA area is pages long.  And LA also converted city owned recreational centers to be socially distanced, and properly sanitized after use, homeless facilities back in April.  In addition, during the winter months, LA opens even more facilities.  There are also women only facilities.  And some of the homeless facilities partner with food banks for regular food distribution.

The main difference is you can't get drunk or do drugs, in an overtly obvious way, in the free to the public facilities.


You're likely to get raped or your throat slit as you sleep in those places.
 
2020-11-27 2:26:55 AM  
1 vote:
That video isn't loading for me (and maybe I should be glad for that because I prefer my monitor to be unpunched), but let me take a wild guess here.......that kid the pigs are attacking isn't a white kid. Correct?
 
2020-11-26 8:21:10 PM  
1 vote:
Thank goodness all of those people standing around recording, yelling, and screaming about Nazis had the moral wherewithal to actually step up and make a difference. I look forward to the followup article.
 
2020-11-26 7:59:09 PM  
1 vote:
BLUE WAVE!
 
2020-11-26 7:29:23 PM  
1 vote:
 
2020-11-26 7:05:05 PM  
1 vote:

King Something: Homeless people being told they're not allowed to live in otherwise unoccupied homes.

'Murica.


At first glance, sure... This seems crazy.

Until you give a bunch of homeless people access to otherwise unoccupied homes and see what happens to the houses and neighborhood.
 
2020-11-26 5:09:16 PM  
1 vote:

Smackledorfer: ParallelUniverseParking: So do the cops do this on Thanksgiving because they are cruel? Or do they do it to get that  sweet holiday extra- pay because they are greedy? Or both?

Are you arguing holiday pay is wrong, or that public services should shut down on holidays?

I'm not a cop. I'm getting holiday pay right now while not working. Some of my coworkers are working and getting extra pay. If we all requested today off, they would force some of us to work based on seniority. I imagine it is essentially the same for police.

I don't see how greed factors into working a holiday at a job where some are mandated to work holidays.


Some jobs pay for asking you to work on the holidays, with different methods of selection (volunteering, first come, forced rotation, seniority).
Some jobs assume rotation basis, rain or shine, including weekends, with the only exception being during your yearly leave.

Just curious, why are you being paid holiday pay while not working? And your coworkers are getting paid holiday pay + what? Additional holiday pay?

I get that some organizations give end of year bonuses or seasonal bonuses, just not sure I understand what your situation is.

/if I may ask.
 
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