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2020-11-26 7:49:39 PM  

1funguy: Smackledorfer: 1funguy: What about all that empty office space?
A lot of those buildings already have laundry, restaurants, bodegas on site.

All the money they save on the dumass  holiday parades should be used for this!

Businesses could sell the thing before it becomes stand alone medical facilities after Thanksgiving.

The problems with giving stuff to the homeless is they destroy it. No, not all homeless people are mentally ill, but enough are that meaningfully addressing the problem requires a hell of a lot more than tossing buildings at them.

Whatever your thoughts on the evils of money or capitalism, this is true. Whatever your views on greed or whatever, there is enough land for people to have multiple properties and enough wood and metal to erect an extra house.

This problem is huge, and apparently people in this thread have about zero understanding of it. People owning two buildings isn't the problem. Letting squatters steal stuff isn't the solution.

I wholeheartedly agree.
I have proposed a short term solution to a long term problem that would certainly need quite a bit of fine tuning.

However, the property owner with an unserviceable debt due to the coronavirus may wish to unload a property.
The homeless at a "particular" level of reason may be encouraged by an option previously unavailable.

A problem solver considers options, not consequences.
Consequences are best discussed in an effort to minimize damage, not to limit further consideration.

Or we could just go back to having parades, blighted properties, and homelessness at epic proportions.


It's not even about property owners though. If the state or a city wants to buy property, or build property, they can.

Most true housing shortages are due to local regulations. Most things we call a shortage are just prices being high due to how great it is to live there. How many people on this forum have called Michigan a shiathole? I've lost count. But I can afford a house here. I could afford one as a waiter.

But we've got a thread shiatting on cops for something they have no real say in. Other agencies determine who can legally live where and who gets eviction notices. Voters elect governments without caring about their solutions for the homeless.

The fact is by and large we just don't care about the homeless. If we did, we'd be doing stuff about it. There is no shortage of times to shiat on police, and they deserve it. I don't view this as one of those times.

Making this about vile owners of empty property is the very definition of passing the buck. Either we stop it with us, or we get off our high horse. We don't get to pass that buck and then proclaim we have solutions or that we care more than our actions reveal.

I'm not saying you are blaming property owners, fwiw. A bunch of people own empty office space. So what? They have every right to, and should have every right to. There is plenty of money and resources for them to do so AND for us to build/buy housing for the homeless, is all I'm saying.
 
2020-11-26 7:59:09 PM  
BLUE WAVE!
 
2020-11-26 8:21:10 PM  
Thank goodness all of those people standing around recording, yelling, and screaming about Nazis had the moral wherewithal to actually step up and make a difference. I look forward to the followup article.
 
2020-11-26 9:12:48 PM  
Point being, Don't move into a home that is not yours.
 
2020-11-26 9:37:37 PM  

Smackledorfer: 1funguy: Smackledorfer: 1funguy: What about all that empty office space?
A lot of those buildings already have laundry, restaurants, bodegas on site.

All the money they save on the dumass  holiday parades should be used for this!

Businesses could sell the thing before it becomes stand alone medical facilities after Thanksgiving.

The problems with giving stuff to the homeless is they destroy it. No, not all homeless people are mentally ill, but enough are that meaningfully addressing the problem requires a hell of a lot more than tossing buildings at them.

Whatever your thoughts on the evils of money or capitalism, this is true. Whatever your views on greed or whatever, there is enough land for people to have multiple properties and enough wood and metal to erect an extra house.

This problem is huge, and apparently people in this thread have about zero understanding of it. People owning two buildings isn't the problem. Letting squatters steal stuff isn't the solution.

I wholeheartedly agree.
I have proposed a short term solution to a long term problem that would certainly need quite a bit of fine tuning.

However, the property owner with an unserviceable debt due to the coronavirus may wish to unload a property.
The homeless at a "particular" level of reason may be encouraged by an option previously unavailable.

A problem solver considers options, not consequences.
Consequences are best discussed in an effort to minimize damage, not to limit further consideration.

Or we could just go back to having parades, blighted properties, and homelessness at epic proportions.

It's not even about property owners though. If the state or a city wants to buy property, or build property, they can.

Most true housing shortages are due to local regulations. Most things we call a shortage are just prices being high due to how great it is to live there. How many people on this forum have called Michigan a shiathole? I've lost count. But I can afford a house here. I could afford one as a waiter.

But we've got a thread shiatting on cops for something they have no real say in. Other agencies determine who can legally live where and who gets eviction notices. Voters elect governments without caring about their solutions for the homeless.

The fact is by and large we just don't care about the homeless. If we did, we'd be doing stuff about it. There is no shortage of times to shiat on police, and they deserve it. I don't view this as one of those times.

Making this about vile owners of empty property is the very definition of passing the buck. Either we stop it with us, or we get off our high horse. We don't get to pass that buck and then proclaim we have solutions or that we care more than our actions reveal.

I'm not saying you are blaming property owners, fwiw. A bunch of people own empty office space. So what? They have every right to, and should have every right to. There is plenty of money and resources for them to do so AND for us to build/buy housing for the homeless, is all I'm saying.


No offense taken, kind sir.
IF the property owner desires the offloading of a property...
AND the state has an intrusion of homelessness...
THEN an equitable position concerning the parties MAY be reached.

Quite a bit of flexibility in my statement, I suppose, but the best cake is a timely introduction of ingredients into a slurry,
It still must be subjected to extreme heat before it becomes a finished cake.

I suggest only that we assemble some potential ingredients.
 
2020-11-26 9:47:43 PM  

1funguy: Smackledorfer: 1funguy: Smackledorfer: 1funguy: What about all that empty office space?
A lot of those buildings already have laundry, restaurants, bodegas on site.

All the money they save on the dumass  holiday parades should be used for this!

Businesses could sell the thing before it becomes stand alone medical facilities after Thanksgiving.

The problems with giving stuff to the homeless is they destroy it. No, not all homeless people are mentally ill, but enough are that meaningfully addressing the problem requires a hell of a lot more than tossing buildings at them.

Whatever your thoughts on the evils of money or capitalism, this is true. Whatever your views on greed or whatever, there is enough land for people to have multiple properties and enough wood and metal to erect an extra house.

This problem is huge, and apparently people in this thread have about zero understanding of it. People owning two buildings isn't the problem. Letting squatters steal stuff isn't the solution.

I wholeheartedly agree.
I have proposed a short term solution to a long term problem that would certainly need quite a bit of fine tuning.

However, the property owner with an unserviceable debt due to the coronavirus may wish to unload a property.
The homeless at a "particular" level of reason may be encouraged by an option previously unavailable.

A problem solver considers options, not consequences.
Consequences are best discussed in an effort to minimize damage, not to limit further consideration.

Or we could just go back to having parades, blighted properties, and homelessness at epic proportions.

It's not even about property owners though. If the state or a city wants to buy property, or build property, they can.

Most true housing shortages are due to local regulations. Most things we call a shortage are just prices being high due to how great it is to live there. How many people on this forum have called Michigan a shiathole? I've lost count. But I can afford a house here. I could afford one as a waiter.

But we've got a thread shiatting on cops for something they have no real say in. Other agencies determine who can legally live where and who gets eviction notices. Voters elect governments without caring about their solutions for the homeless.

The fact is by and large we just don't care about the homeless. If we did, we'd be doing stuff about it. There is no shortage of times to shiat on police, and they deserve it. I don't view this as one of those times.

Making this about vile owners of empty property is the very definition of passing the buck. Either we stop it with us, or we get off our high horse. We don't get to pass that buck and then proclaim we have solutions or that we care more than our actions reveal.

I'm not saying you are blaming property owners, fwiw. A bunch of people own empty office space. So what? They have every right to, and should have every right to. There is plenty of money and resources for them to do so AND for us to build/buy housing for the homeless, is all I'm saying.

No offense taken, kind sir.
IF the property owner desires the offloading of a property...
AND the state has an intrusion of homelessness...
THEN an equitable position concerning the parties MAY be reached.

Quite a bit of flexibility in my statement, I suppose, but the best cake is a timely introduction of ingredients into a slurry,
It still must be subjected to extreme heat before it becomes a finished cake.

I suggest only that we assemble some potential ingredients.


I like it.
 
2020-11-26 10:52:49 PM  
To be honest (instead of faux outraged), the list of homeless facilities in the LA area is pages long.  And LA also converted city owned recreational centers to be socially distanced, and properly sanitized after use, homeless facilities back in April.  In addition, during the winter months, LA opens even more facilities.  There are also women only facilities.  And some of the homeless facilities partner with food banks for regular food distribution.

The main difference is you can't get drunk or do drugs, in an overtly obvious way, in the free to the public facilities.
 
2020-11-26 11:01:32 PM  

Smackledorfer: Homeless people threads are so weird.
A bunch of people who don't invite the homeless to live in their house demand a bunch of other people do so. Then they shiat on every government worker who has to actually deal with the homeless.


This is an accurate and applause worthy way of describing fark homeless threads in a concise manner.  They are basically a virtue signalling opportunity for posers.
 
2020-11-26 11:29:30 PM  

Smackledorfer: There is plenty of money and resources for them to do so AND for us to build/buy housing for the homeless, is all I'm saying.


No. There really isn't. Just because you don't see the costs......
the homeless sure do.
 
2020-11-27 12:06:26 AM  

cryinoutloud: Smackledorfer: There is plenty of money and resources for them to do so AND for us to build/buy housing for the homeless, is all I'm saying.

No. There really isn't. Just because you don't see the costs......
the homeless sure do.


Should people save for retirement?

If so, where should they out their savings?

/Until you answer I'll never give you the time of day.
 
2020-11-27 1:31:51 AM  
Nothing like a fark thread on the evictions of homeless children by the police state by people with full stomachs a warm home with the lights on.

You people are the reason the human race doesn't deserve to dominate life on this planet. No other species goes out of its way to attack and hamper members of it own community.  You are disgusting and you should be ashamed of what type of person you are.
 
2020-11-27 2:26:55 AM  
That video isn't loading for me (and maybe I should be glad for that because I prefer my monitor to be unpunched), but let me take a wild guess here.......that kid the pigs are attacking isn't a white kid. Correct?
 
2020-11-27 2:28:01 AM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: To be honest (instead of faux outraged), the list of homeless facilities in the LA area is pages long.  And LA also converted city owned recreational centers to be socially distanced, and properly sanitized after use, homeless facilities back in April.  In addition, during the winter months, LA opens even more facilities.  There are also women only facilities.  And some of the homeless facilities partner with food banks for regular food distribution.

The main difference is you can't get drunk or do drugs, in an overtly obvious way, in the free to the public facilities.


You're likely to get raped or your throat slit as you sleep in those places.
 
2020-11-27 4:20:12 AM  

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Proposition 13 took that away in the late 70s. I'm too lazy to look it up to see if empty homes get some sort of exemption.
 
2020-11-27 6:11:41 AM  

RedComrade: No other species goes out of its way to attack and hamper members of it own community.


Lol
 
2020-11-27 12:24:35 PM  
There should be a working test....work your ass off get a house....peter out and you lose....be a bum an do shiat and you get a cardboard box
 
2020-11-27 12:34:37 PM  

Gaylord Q. Tinkledink: Police are stormtroopers in the class war against the poor.

#ACAB


tard
 
2020-11-27 4:01:37 PM  

Maximsoldier: Gaylord Q. Tinkledink: Police are stormtroopers in the class war against the poor.

#ACAB

tard


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