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2020-11-26 9:03:25 PM  

g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: kpaxoid: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: NeoCortex42: ...

Are you suggesting that the angle something is viewed along actually changes its real physical dimension?  Because what you wrote literally suggests so.

Since a picture is worth a thousand words :
[Fark user image image 425x566]

Or maybe this is more relevant to the original discussion:

[Fark user image image 425x566]


Neither of those disproves anything. I have said.
 
2020-11-26 9:12:58 PM  

Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: kpaxoid: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: NeoCortex42: ...

Are you suggesting that the angle something is viewed along actually changes its real physical dimension?  Because what you wrote literally suggests so.

Since a picture is worth a thousand words :
[Fark user image image 425x566]

Or maybe this is more relevant to the original discussion:

[Fark user image image 425x566]

Neither of those disproves anything. I have said.


Except for all those lines in the first figure which are actually planes (and a couple cones).
 
2020-11-26 9:19:33 PM  
As an Ontario resident, I'm more than ok with this.

I know mixed opinions of DST abound, but for anyone with outdoor hobbies or pursuits, this is a no-brainer.

Personally I've always found it farking depressing to be greeted with darkness at the end of a work shift.  But I acknowledge that for many people the opposite is true.

In any case, it's all academic unless New York and Quebec sign on.  Considering all the pandemic disconnects happening daily, does anyone really think 3 disparate and heavily populated regions can synchronize on a time adjustment?  It will probably take years if it happens at all.
 
2020-11-26 9:25:30 PM  

g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: kpaxoid: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: NeoCortex42: ...

Are you suggesting that the angle something is viewed along actually changes its real physical dimension?  Because what you wrote literally suggests so.

Since a picture is worth a thousand words :
[Fark user image image 425x566]

Or maybe this is more relevant to the original discussion:

[Fark user image image 425x566]

Neither of those disproves anything. I have said.

Except for all those lines in the first figure which are actually planes (and a couple cones).


No, they are projections of planes

A plane is a plane regardless of the angle it is viewed from.

Ps, those aren't lines , they are line segments.
 
2020-11-26 9:27:49 PM  

Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: kpaxoid: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: NeoCortex42: ...

Are you suggesting that the angle something is viewed along actually changes its real physical dimension?  Because what you wrote literally suggests so.

Since a picture is worth a thousand words :
[Fark user image image 425x566]

Or maybe this is more relevant to the original discussion:

[Fark user image image 425x566]

Neither of those disproves anything. I have said.

Except for all those lines in the first figure which are actually planes (and a couple cones).

No, they are projections of planes

A plane is a plane regardless of the angle it is viewed from.

Ps, those aren't lines , they are line segments.


My eyes can't roll any more.

You go on with your bad self.
 
2020-11-26 10:19:46 PM  

MrKevvy: Mock26: Oh boo f*cking hoo, the sun sets early during winter. Get over it.

I'd rather have the hour of daylight in the evening, when it's a motivator to go outside and get some exercise after work, than in the morning when it's colder and work is imminent. Permanent DST is far preferable to me than permanent ST.


If you'd rather have more time after work than in the morning, drag your ass out of bed, start work early, and finish early. You morning people can do that without having to change your clock and making the rest of us pretend you're not telling us we have to drag our lazy asses out of bed early too.

Noon is when the sun's highest in the sky. It's supposed to be at 12:00, not 1:00, and the time zones are set so that on average it's pretty close to that in most places.
 
2020-11-26 10:24:55 PM  

ski9600: A lot of people here say that they hate Daylight Savings Time.  I don't think they realize that if we didn't have that it would be 1 hour worse.


No, it wouldn't be an hour worse having standard time all year.  It would be fine. And if you like getting up early in the summer, you're free to do so.

Back in the Jimmy Carter days, the US did year-round DST one year, in an unsuccessful attempt to save energy.  It meant that I had to walk to high school in the dark, which was cold and unsafe.  Leave it on standard time the whole time, and we'll be fine.
 
2020-11-26 10:41:23 PM  

billstewart: If you'd rather have more time after work than in the morning, drag your ass out of bed, start work early, and finish early.


Unfortunately, many of us are constrained by fixed working hours..
 
2020-11-26 10:46:06 PM  
Some people are not impressed.

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2020-11-26 11:57:25 PM  

feanorn: jsmilky: people prefer to have a sunny morning rather than still dark at 8am.

Many more prefer dark to hold off until at least supper time. Who cares if it's dark at 8? It would be nice to have some light on the drive home.


Would you care it if was dark until 9am?  Because that's what is going to happen to most places if we move to DST permanently.  Sunrise right now is at about 7:45am.  Move to DST and it's going to be 8:45am.   Who the fark wants sunrise that late in the day?
 
2020-11-27 12:37:07 AM  

frestcrallen: As an Ontario resident, I'm more than ok with this.

I know mixed opinions of DST abound, but for anyone with outdoor hobbies or pursuits, this is a no-brainer.

Personally I've always found it farking depressing to be greeted with darkness at the end of a work shift.  But I acknowledge that for many people the opposite is true.

In any case, it's all academic unless New York and Quebec sign on.  Considering all the pandemic disconnects happening daily, does anyone really think 3 disparate and heavily populated regions can synchronize on a time adjustment?  It will probably take years if it happens at all.


I think in a decade changing the clocks will be dead. NY had a bill submitted to its legislature two weeks ago. And Quebec's government has indicated that they are in favour of it.

About a dozen states have passed bills for permanent DST (all conditional on Congressional approval, many on nearby states) and about twice that many have bills pending. And this is a broad swathe of Republican and Democrat lead states so I suspect Congress will sign off.

The ball is rolling and it is going to happen. I expect most places will go permanent DST but a few places will go permanent standard time.
 
2020-11-27 12:46:39 AM  

silverjets: feanorn: jsmilky: people prefer to have a sunny morning rather than still dark at 8am.

Many more prefer dark to hold off until at least supper time. Who cares if it's dark at 8? It would be nice to have some light on the drive home.

Would you care it if was dark until 9am?  Because that's what is going to happen to most places if we move to DST permanently.  Sunrise right now is at about 7:45am.  Move to DST and it's going to be 8:45am.   Who the fark wants sunrise that late in the day?


I wouldn't mind. Much better fark at 8:30 am than 4:30 pm.
 
2020-11-27 12:51:35 AM  

silverjets: Would you care it if was dark until 9am?  Because that's what is going to happen to most places if we move to DST permanently.  Sunrise right now is at about 7:45am.  Move to DST and it's going to be 8:45am.   Who the fark wants sunrise that late in the day?


I guess this is the crux of DST vs. ST.  Active evening people vs. active morning people.

If I get extended daylight in the evenings, I wouldn't care if the sun didn't come up until 10am.  I'm never doing anything recreational in the early morning, all I'm doing is preparing for work.  But obviously all those crack of dawn cyclists / joggers / photographers / fishermen etc. might feel otherwise.
 
2020-11-27 12:52:53 AM  

dywed88: NY had a bill submitted to its legislature two weeks ago. And Quebec's government has indicated that they are in favour of it.


I didn't know that and stand corrected.
 
Juc
2020-11-27 3:07:34 AM  

silverjets: feanorn: jsmilky: people prefer to have a sunny morning rather than still dark at 8am.

Many more prefer dark to hold off until at least supper time. Who cares if it's dark at 8? It would be nice to have some light on the drive home.

Would you care it if was dark until 9am?  Because that's what is going to happen to most places if we move to DST permanently.  Sunrise right now is at about 7:45am.  Move to DST and it's going to be 8:45am.   Who the fark wants sunrise that late in the day?


That's what life is like here in the winter anyway. I think tomorrow the sun's only up after my work starts for the day and it sets before I'm done. The number on a clock doesn't change how the sun's only up at work. But it does mess with sleep schedules
 
2020-11-27 6:18:29 AM  

g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: kpaxoid: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: NeoCortex42: ...

Are you suggesting that the angle something is viewed along actually changes its real physical dimension?  Because what you wrote literally suggests so.

Since a picture is worth a thousand words :
[Fark user image image 425x566]

Or maybe this is more relevant to the original discussion:

[Fark user image image 425x566]

Neither of those disproves anything. I have said.

Except for all those lines in the first figure which are actually planes (and a couple cones).

No, they are projections of planes

A plane is a plane regardless of the angle it is viewed from.

Ps, those aren't lines , they are line segments.

My eyes can't roll any more.

You go on with your bad self.


Womp womp.  Cry moar, beyotch
 
2020-11-27 9:06:39 AM  

billstewart: .

If you'd rather have more time after work than in the morning, drag your ass out of bed, start work early, and finish early. .


Must be nice to be self employed.
 
2020-11-27 10:00:03 AM  
One of the most interesting conversations I had in Switzerland was about having seasonal time changes.

Switzerland didn't do that, but still paid the price because all printed transportation schedules had to be redone every season, the many borders being so close.  It's like paying a tax to cleanup the drunk neighbor's messes.
 
2020-11-27 11:52:55 AM  

BitwiseShift: One of the most interesting conversations I had in Switzerland was about having seasonal time changes.

Switzerland didn't do that, but still paid the price because all printed transportation schedules had to be redone every season, the many borders being so close.  It's like paying a tax to cleanup the drunk neighbor's messes.


What's a "printed transportation schedule"?
 
2020-11-27 12:33:22 PM  

dywed88: silverjets: feanorn: jsmilky: people prefer to have a sunny morning rather than still dark at 8am.

Many more prefer dark to hold off until at least supper time. Who cares if it's dark at 8? It would be nice to have some light on the drive home.

Would you care it if was dark until 9am?  Because that's what is going to happen to most places if we move to DST permanently.  Sunrise right now is at about 7:45am.  Move to DST and it's going to be 8:45am.   Who the fark wants sunrise that late in the day?

I wouldn't mind. Much better fark at 8:30 am than 4:30 pm.


On which day?
 
2020-11-27 12:36:05 PM  

Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: kpaxoid: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: NeoCortex42: ...

Are you suggesting that the angle something is viewed along actually changes its real physical dimension?  Because what you wrote literally suggests so.

Since a picture is worth a thousand words :
[Fark user image image 425x566]

Or maybe this is more relevant to the original discussion:

[Fark user image image 425x566]

Neither of those disproves anything. I have said.

Except for all those lines in the first figure which are actually planes (and a couple cones).

No, they are projections of planes

A plane is a plane regardless of the angle it is viewed from.

Ps, those aren't lines , they are line segments.

My eyes can't roll any more.

You go on with your bad self.

Womp womp.  Cry moar, beyotch


Oh, you actually are a child. I'm sorry, I thought I was conversing with an adult. Sorry about wasting your time; you can go back to playing Digimon or Atari or whatever you kids do.
 
2020-11-27 1:40:39 PM  

g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: kpaxoid: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: NeoCortex42: ...

Are you suggesting that the angle something is viewed along actually changes its real physical dimension?  Because what you wrote literally suggests so.

Since a picture is worth a thousand words :
[Fark user image image 425x566]

Or maybe this is more relevant to the original discussion:

[Fark user image image 425x566]

Neither of those disproves anything. I have said.

Except for all those lines in the first figure which are actually planes (and a couple cones).

No, they are projections of planes

A plane is a plane regardless of the angle it is viewed from.

Ps, those aren't lines , they are line segments.

My eyes can't roll any more.

You go on with your bad self.

Womp womp.  Cry moar, beyotch

Oh, you actually are a child. I'm sorry, I thought I was conversing with an adult. Sorry about wasting your time; you can go back to playing Digimon or Atari or whatever you kids do.



must suck for you that a "child" had to school your "adult" ass
 
2020-11-27 2:00:33 PM  

Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: kpaxoid: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: NeoCortex42: ...

Are you suggesting that the angle something is viewed along actually changes its real physical dimension?  Because what you wrote literally suggests so.

Since a picture is worth a thousand words :
[Fark user image image 425x566]

Or maybe this is more relevant to the original discussion:

[Fark user image image 425x566]

Neither of those disproves anything. I have said.

Except for all those lines in the first figure which are actually planes (and a couple cones).

No, they are projections of planes

A plane is a plane regardless of the angle it is viewed from.

Ps, those aren't lines , they are line segments.

My eyes can't roll any more.

You go on with your bad self.

Womp womp.  Cry moar, beyotch

Oh, you actually are a child. I'm sorry, I thought I was conversing with an adult. Sorry about wasting your time; you can go back to playing Digimon or Atari or whatever you kids do.


must suck for you that a "child" had to school your "adult" ass


Ok, now you're just living in an alternate reality. Why don't you go back to Call of Duty and leave the rest of us alone.
 
2020-11-27 2:21:02 PM  

g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: g.fro: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: kpaxoid: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: Leader O'Cola: mudesi: NeoCortex42: ...

Are you suggesting that the angle something is viewed along actually changes its real physical dimension?  Because what you wrote literally suggests so.

Since a picture is worth a thousand words :
[Fark user image image 425x566]

Or maybe this is more relevant to the original discussion:

[Fark user image image 425x566]

Neither of those disproves anything. I have said.

Except for all those lines in the first figure which are actually planes (and a couple cones).

No, they are projections of planes

A plane is a plane regardless of the angle it is viewed from.

Ps, those aren't lines , they are line segments.

My eyes can't roll any more.

You go on with your bad self.

Womp womp.  Cry moar, beyotch

Oh, you actually are a child. I'm sorry, I thought I was conversing with an adult. Sorry about wasting your time; you can go back to playing Digimon or Atari or whatever you kids do.


must suck for you that a "child" had to school your "adult" ass

Ok, now you're just living in an alternate reality. Why don't you go back to Call of Duty and leave the rest of us alone.



is a plane still a plane when it's rotated about an axis?

yes,
or
no
 
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