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(Some Minnesotan)   Turns out it was not a coincidence that most of the "Legal Marijuana Now" candidates-including the one that overdosed, forcing a special election-were the deciding factor in throwing the races for Minnesota state representatives to Republicans   (minnesotareformer.com) divider line
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2020-11-25 10:43:24 PM  
Shady as always
 
2020-11-25 11:10:23 PM  
No!

I am shocked.

No wait. Not shocked.

Astonished. Yes.

Astonished y'all had not noticed Republicans doing this shiat in the South for, like, 75 years.
 
2020-11-25 11:42:57 PM  
FTA: The Reformer reported earlier this year that several marijuana legalization candidates running in tight races have ties to the Republican Party, suggesting their intention in running might be to siphon votes away from Democrats.

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2020-11-26 12:07:34 AM  
Oh, FFS
 
2020-11-26 12:21:39 AM  
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2020-11-26 3:12:50 AM  
Perhaps the Democrats should have been louder about legalizing marijuana instead of Kamala Harris just mentioning it at the end of the VP debate when everyone was too distracted by the fly on Pence's head to notice?
 
2020-11-26 3:15:17 AM  
Yet another Republican tactic we need regulation to guard against. They were the ones who got Kanye West on the the MN ballot.
 
2020-11-26 3:16:43 AM  
Oh, that's brilliant. Run a friend against your opponent with a vote sucking campaign while intending to lose. That wouldn't work for ranked voting, but the two party system won't allow it.
 
2020-11-26 3:17:21 AM  
Perhaps democrats should just, you know, stop tip-toeing around saying that they want to legalize that shiat, lest they scare away those non-existent swing voters that still have hangups about weed.
 
2020-11-26 3:18:55 AM  
He OD'd on weed??

ruled accidental due to substance abuse caused by ethanol and fentanyl toxicity

Meth addict republican. Where have I seen that before?
 
2020-11-26 3:20:00 AM  
Whatever, Democrats should just do the same thing. Crying about it doesn't do shiat.

Get some slightly overweight late 30's dude with short hair and a beard to run on the platform of 'I love guns and hate foreigners'. Also, of course he's anti-abortion. He could make some off color comments in the 1 appearance he can be bothered to make and perhaps make fun of a them over educated liberals.

Boom, done, he's won a few % points.
 
2020-11-26 3:21:36 AM  

Purple_Urkle: Perhaps the Democrats should have been louder about legalizing marijuana instead of Kamala Harris just mentioning it at the end of the VP debate when everyone was too distracted by the fly on Pence's head to notice?


Maybe people shouldn't be moronic single issue voters.
 
2020-11-26 3:22:09 AM  

MattytheMouse: Perhaps democrats should just, you know, stop tip-toeing around saying that they want to legalize that shiat, lest they scare away those non-existent swing voters that still have hangups about weed.


https://www.marijuanamoment.net/kamal​a​-harris-touts-commitment-to-marijuana-​decriminalization-and-expungements-und​er-biden-administration/
 
2020-11-26 3:23:12 AM  

Purple_Urkle: Perhaps the Democrats should have been louder about legalizing marijuana instead of Kamala Harris just mentioning it at the end of the VP debate when everyone was too distracted by the fly on Pence's head to notice?


The Democratic Party supports marijuana legalization. The Democratic Party has successfully backed legalization in a number of states. The Democratic Party in the Minnesota House has favoured legalization for years now.

Wanna know what is preventing marijuana from being legalized in Minnesota? The fact that there is a Republican majority in the state Senate. And know what keeps the Republican majority in the state Senate? Splitting the vote by voting for hopeless Legal Marijuana Now candidates!
 
2020-11-26 3:23:52 AM  

Kazan: MattytheMouse: Perhaps democrats should just, you know, stop tip-toeing around saying that they want to legalize that shiat, lest they scare away those non-existent swing voters that still have hangups about weed.

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/kamala​-harris-touts-commitment-to-marijuana-​decriminalization-and-expungements-und​er-biden-administration/


Yes, I know. I didn't say "they need to adopt this platform," I was saying they need to be louder about it.
 
2020-11-26 3:24:18 AM  

Catlenfell: Yet another Republican tactic we need regulation to guard against. They were the ones who got Kanye West on the the MN ballot.


Maybe you shouldn't be so keen on creating a regulation to be used against candidates who aren't R's or D's. What's wrong with you people with your love affair with your two party system?
 
2020-11-26 3:25:30 AM  
Time for Pro-Life Party to suddenly spring up in those small swing states, or maybe the God Is Great Party (why not both.)

Seems a small investment with huge rewards.
 
2020-11-26 3:27:11 AM  
MattytheMouse:
Yes, I know. I didn't say "they need to adopt this platform," I was saying they need to be louder about it.

Here's the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party of Minnesota putting on a rather public push for legalization in 2019, complete with support from the majority leader in the House and the governor:

https://www.minnpost.com/community-vo​i​ces/2019/09/why-the-minnesota-dfl-is-p​ushing-marijuana-legalization/
 
2020-11-26 3:29:00 AM  

xxdangerbobxx: Get some slightly overweight late 30's dude with short hair and a beard to run on the platform of 'I love guns and hate foreigners'. Also, of course he's anti-abortion. He could make some off color comments in the 1 appearance he can be bothered to make and perhaps make fun of a them over educated liberals.

Boom, done, he's won a few % points.


That might backfire. Badly.

The last person to run on that kind of platform won both GOP nomination and the presidency. His name was Donald Trump.

It'd be an incredibly fine needle to thread to find a candidate crazy enough to peel away GOP voters without being crazy enough to attract enough GOP voters to win outright.
 
2020-11-26 3:31:29 AM  
It's just ratfarkers all the way down.
 
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2020-11-26 3:31:41 AM  
Although I am all for legalization of marijuana, I'm pleased to say that I didn't vote for any of those people. I voted for Dems every opportunity I had. I simply don't have time or energy to spend on anything frivolous during an election that was this consequential. Nor will I do so in the mid-terms in 2022.
 
2020-11-26 3:31:48 AM  

Albino Squid: MattytheMouse:
Yes, I know. I didn't say "they need to adopt this platform," I was saying they need to be louder about it.

Here's the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party of Minnesota putting on a rather public push for legalization in 2019, complete with support from the majority leader in the House and the governor:

https://www.minnpost.com/community-voi​ces/2019/09/why-the-minnesota-dfl-is-p​ushing-marijuana-legalization/


Yes, I know. It's still not being effectively messaged, if these shiat heels can siphon votes.

I swear, every time I say democrats need to work on their messaging, there's always somebody linking articles to me saying "but Harris said during the debate...!"

I know what Harris said during the debate. Others don't, because nobody watched the debates. Americans don't have time to parse the things that politicians say and do, which, sadly, is why republicans are so effective by just using repetitive and syllabic language.
 
2020-11-26 3:32:53 AM  
FTFA:
"A potential spoiler in the race: Ryan Martin, a 23-year-old pot party candidate who garnered1,706 votes, or 7.4%, in a race decided by 554 votes.

Despite running under the Legal Marijuana Now party banner, Martin has ties to the head of Scott County Republicans and pro-pot congressional candidate Adam Weeks, another potential spoiler whose overdose death threw the 2nd Congressional District race into disarray.

Martin lives in Shakopee with his mother, who served as his campaign treasurer and who was dating Weeks until his September death (ruled accidental due to substance abuse caused by ethanol and fentanyl toxicity).

Weeks was also a Legal Marijuana Now candidate who garnered more than 20,000 votes in the race between Democratic U.S. Rep Angie Craig and her Republican challenger Tyler Kistner, despite his untimely death."

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/fark this trolling lulz politics.
 
2020-11-26 3:37:12 AM  
Given that the only thing that stopped the Traitor from being re-elected (while losing the vote of the people by six farking million) was the Lolbertarian candidate... I'm not too inclined to hate on 3rd party spoilers this year.

No joke... AZ? GA? WI? In all of them, Jorgeson got more votes - substantially more - than the difference between Trump and Biden. Take that away and it's 269-269, and the nation burns.
 
2020-11-26 3:58:25 AM  

pnkgtr: It's just ratfarkers all the way down.


"rat-fink" has been my go-to for the last week or two

/no idea
 
2020-11-26 4:12:00 AM  
Walk Hard - Get out of here Dewey
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2020-11-26 4:13:44 AM  
Jesus are you farkers even legally a country by now or some kind of third world banana factory?

Corruption and 'legal' criminality at every possible level.

Pathetic.
 
2020-11-26 4:14:37 AM  

MattytheMouse: Albino Squid: MattytheMouse:
Yes, I know. I didn't say "they need to adopt this platform," I was saying they need to be louder about it.

Here's the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party of Minnesota putting on a rather public push for legalization in 2019, complete with support from the majority leader in the House and the governor:

https://www.minnpost.com/community-voi​ces/2019/09/why-the-minnesota-dfl-is-p​ushing-marijuana-legalization/

Yes, I know. It's still not being effectively messaged, if these shiat heels can siphon votes.

I swear, every time I say democrats need to work on their messaging, there's always somebody linking articles to me saying "but Harris said during the debate...!"

I know what Harris said during the debate. Others don't, because nobody watched the debates. Americans don't have time to parse the things that politicians say and do, which, sadly, is why republicans are so effective by just using repetitive and syllabic language.


I wrote in Marijuana/Bernie Sanders for P/VP on my ballot. Neither of them won, so I guess voting is stupid.
 
2020-11-26 4:17:14 AM  

Kazan: MattytheMouse: Perhaps democrats should just, you know, stop tip-toeing around saying that they want to legalize that shiat, lest they scare away those non-existent swing voters that still have hangups about weed.

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/kamala​-harris-touts-commitment-to-marijuana-​decriminalization-and-expungements-und​er-biden-administration/


I'm sure your happy with other political compromises like civil unions and letting states decide their own abortion laws.
 
2020-11-26 4:20:27 AM  

MattytheMouse: Kazan: MattytheMouse: Perhaps democrats should just, you know, stop tip-toeing around saying that they want to legalize that shiat, lest they scare away those non-existent swing voters that still have hangups about weed.

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/kamala​-harris-touts-commitment-to-marijuana-​decriminalization-and-expungements-und​er-biden-administration/

Yes, I know. I didn't say "they need to adopt this platform," I was saying they need to be louder about it.


Maybe people should not be moronic LAZY uninformed single issue voters
 
2020-11-26 4:21:26 AM  

Scarlioni: Kazan: MattytheMouse: Perhaps democrats should just, you know, stop tip-toeing around saying that they want to legalize that shiat, lest they scare away those non-existent swing voters that still have hangups about weed.

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/kamala​-harris-touts-commitment-to-marijuana-​decriminalization-and-expungements-und​er-biden-administration/

I'm sure your happy with other political compromises like civil unions and letting states decide their own abortion laws.


Nice false analogies.  Now go fark yourself
 
2020-11-26 4:25:30 AM  

gaspode: Jesus are you farkers even legally a country by now or some kind of third world banana factory?

Corruption and 'legal' criminality at every possible level.

Pathetic.


That's what happens when our government doesn't evolve and keep up with the times because old people loathe change, and one political party hates the country and its citizens.
 
2020-11-26 4:29:41 AM  
The Dems could inoculate themselves from this kind of stuff by simply supporting legalization like a first world nation instead of whatever bullshiat they back now
 
2020-11-26 4:32:09 AM  

Kazan: Purple_Urkle: Perhaps the Democrats should have been louder about legalizing marijuana instead of Kamala Harris just mentioning it at the end of the VP debate when everyone was too distracted by the fly on Pence's head to notice?

Maybe people shouldn't be moronic single issue voters.


Work with the electorate you have.
 
2020-11-26 4:34:59 AM  

Albino Squid: Purple_Urkle: Perhaps the Democrats should have been louder about legalizing marijuana instead of Kamala Harris just mentioning it at the end of the VP debate when everyone was too distracted by the fly on Pence's head to notice?

The Democratic Party supports marijuana legalization. The Democratic Party has successfully backed legalization in a number of states. The Democratic Party in the Minnesota House has favoured legalization for years now.

Wanna know what is preventing marijuana from being legalized in Minnesota? The fact that there is a Republican majority in the state Senate. And know what keeps the Republican majority in the state Senate? Splitting the vote by voting for hopeless Legal Marijuana Now candidates!


You're preaching to the choir after the election. Perhaps more effort should have been put into messaging before the election?
 
2020-11-26 4:39:46 AM  

Purple_Urkle: Albino Squid: Purple_Urkle: Perhaps the Democrats should have been louder about legalizing marijuana instead of Kamala Harris just mentioning it at the end of the VP debate when everyone was too distracted by the fly on Pence's head to notice?

The Democratic Party supports marijuana legalization. The Democratic Party has successfully backed legalization in a number of states. The Democratic Party in the Minnesota House has favoured legalization for years now.

Wanna know what is preventing marijuana from being legalized in Minnesota? The fact that there is a Republican majority in the state Senate. And know what keeps the Republican majority in the state Senate? Splitting the vote by voting for hopeless Legal Marijuana Now candidates!

You're preaching to the choir after the election. Perhaps more effort should have been put into messaging before the election?


I think people were busy trying to stay alive during a pandemic and also trying to stay alive when the cops were shooting at them. I could be wrong, but I think there was a lot of focus on "trying to stay alive" in the Dems' election messaging, and like, maybe the electorate didn't have miuch time for other messages.
 
2020-11-26 4:45:05 AM  

MattytheMouse: I know what Harris said during the debate. Others don't, because nobody watched the debates. Americans don't have time to parse the things that politicians say and do,


That doesn't seem accurate for this particular election. And I am sure that the VP debate had one of the highest viewer ratings of any US political debate ever, given Harris was in it. I think lots of people were parsing what she said. Of course, fi you've got the metrics to prove me wrong, then I'm wrong. I will be surprised and my monocle might pop out, though.
 
2020-11-26 4:50:22 AM  

TorpedoOrca: He OD'd on weed??

ruled accidental due to substance abuse caused by ethanol and fentanyl toxicity

Meth addict republican. Where have I seen that before?


Wut?
 
2020-11-26 4:50:29 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: Purple_Urkle: Albino Squid: Purple_Urkle: Perhaps the Democrats should have been louder about legalizing marijuana instead of Kamala Harris just mentioning it at the end of the VP debate when everyone was too distracted by the fly on Pence's head to notice?

The Democratic Party supports marijuana legalization. The Democratic Party has successfully backed legalization in a number of states. The Democratic Party in the Minnesota House has favoured legalization for years now.

Wanna know what is preventing marijuana from being legalized in Minnesota? The fact that there is a Republican majority in the state Senate. And know what keeps the Republican majority in the state Senate? Splitting the vote by voting for hopeless Legal Marijuana Now candidates!

You're preaching to the choir after the election. Perhaps more effort should have been put into messaging before the election?

I think people were busy trying to stay alive during a pandemic and also trying to stay alive when the cops were shooting at them. I could be wrong, but I think there was a lot of focus on "trying to stay alive" in the Dems' election messaging, and like, maybe the electorate didn't have miuch time for other messages.


Yeah, I don't buy that.

There was fundraising. Biden did great. HRC lost the totality of the stoner vote to Trump and Gary Johnson in 2016. The stoner vote was split 3 ways, if HRC got it all, Trump never would have happened. In 2020 there should have been an effort to target ads in states that only permit medical use or don't permit marijuana at all.

The lessons weren't learned.

James Carville should've been touting marijuana legalization on MSNBC and CNN during primetime.

Chase after the single issue weirdos or lose them to Republican shenanigans.

Chasing single issue weirdos can't be the only strategy but it shouldn't be omitted either, particularly if said weirdos aren't in conflict with the party platform.
 
2020-11-26 4:51:05 AM  
Ah, ha, libs, Nancy Grace was right!

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Chuck steaks, Liza Minnelli!
 
2020-11-26 4:51:56 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: MattytheMouse: I know what Harris said during the debate. Others don't, because nobody watched the debates. Americans don't have time to parse the things that politicians say and do,

That doesn't seem accurate for this particular election. And I am sure that the VP debate had one of the highest viewer ratings of any US political debate ever, given Harris was in it. I think lots of people were parsing what she said. Of course, fi you've got the metrics to prove me wrong, then I'm wrong. I will be surprised and my monocle might pop out, though.


Well it sure had the FLYEST ratings!

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2020-11-26 4:54:34 AM  

Catlenfell: Yet another Republican tactic we need regulation to guard against. They were the ones who got Kanye West on the the MN ballot.


If they don't do anything about these types of candidates, we can just run our own Ban Abortion Now candidates in right races.  fark 'em.
 
2020-11-26 5:20:51 AM  

MattytheMouse: Perhaps democrats should just, you know, stop tip-toeing around saying that they want to legalize that shiat, lest they scare away those non-existent swing voters that still have hangups about weed.


Exactly.  They couldn't pull this weaksauce if legalization were part of the official party platform.

Or maybe they'd do it anyway and it'd still work.

*sigh* Ffs... It'll probably still work for them after grass is legal everywhere.
 
2020-11-26 5:23:05 AM  

rga184: Catlenfell: Yet another Republican tactic we need regulation to guard against. They were the ones who got Kanye West on the the MN ballot.

If they don't do anything about these types of candidates, we can just run our own Ban Abortion Now candidates in right races.  fark 'em.


Like someone said above that probably wouldn't work. Instead apy the same tactic but backwards, find a mostly sane repub that promises to work with democrats on common sense issues. They'd split the (relatively) normal, "fiscal" conservatives.

Ya know, all 3 of them
 
2020-11-26 5:27:13 AM  
The only thing the Democrats can do is field a "Bring Back Public Executions" candidate.
 
2020-11-26 5:28:51 AM  

wildcardjack: Oh, that's brilliant. Run a friend against your opponent with a vote sucking campaign while intending to lose. That wouldn't work for ranked voting, but the two party system won't allow it.


Or Approval voting, which is easier to explain to Trump voters.
 
2020-11-26 5:31:17 AM  

Aussie_As: Bennie Crabtree: MattytheMouse: I know what Harris said during the debate. Others don't, because nobody watched the debates. Americans don't have time to parse the things that politicians say and do,

That doesn't seem accurate for this particular election. And I am sure that the VP debate had one of the highest viewer ratings of any US political debate ever, given Harris was in it. I think lots of people were parsing what she said. Of course, fi you've got the metrics to prove me wrong, then I'm wrong. I will be surprised and my monocle might pop out, though.

Well it sure had the FLYEST ratings!

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2020-11-26 5:44:08 AM  

Purple_Urkle: Perhaps the Democrats should have been louder about legalizing marijuana instead of Kamala Harris just mentioning it at the end of the VP debate when everyone was too distracted by the fly on Pence's head to notice?


Nah.  The whole point has always been "It Puts the Plutocrats On the Ballot or Else It Gets the Fascists, Again."  Nobody ever has to adopt any remotely new or popular platforms or policies if there's never a snowball's chance in hell of a 3rd party threatening them.
 
2020-11-26 6:09:19 AM  

Kazan: Maybe people shouldn't be moronic single issue voters.


Certainly they shouldn't, but just who are YOU going to throw under the bus?

People vote for what matters to them. The threat of state violence, incarceration, and so on for your vices tends to focus the mind a whole farking lot. People don't like going to jail, getting fines, losing jobs, that sort of stuff.

So who's issue is minor to you?
 
2020-11-26 6:13:09 AM  

Albino Squid: Purple_Urkle: Perhaps the Democrats should have been louder about legalizing marijuana instead of Kamala Harris just mentioning it at the end of the VP debate when everyone was too distracted by the fly on Pence's head to notice?

The Democratic Party supports marijuana legalization. The Democratic Party has successfully backed legalization in a number of states. The Democratic Party in the Minnesota House has favoured legalization for years now.

Wanna know what is preventing marijuana from being legalized in Minnesota? The fact that there is a Republican majority in the state Senate. And know what keeps the Republican majority in the state Senate? Splitting the vote by voting for hopeless Legal Marijuana Now candidates!


1 state. Illinois.

Washington farking state had to have the citizens pass a referendum to legalize. Oregon needed a referendum. Hawaii, as high as either of them and just as blue, STILL does not have legal weed, because Hawaii has no referendum or direct democracy system.

The Democrats have done precisely jack shiat, except in 1 state.
 
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