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2020-11-25 10:05:31 PM  
sure they did. "she's weird and he's fast.
 
2020-11-25 10:09:18 PM  
Scarlet Witch and her brother are mutants, just never recruited by The X-Men.

That's my explanation, anyway.
 
2020-11-25 10:13:39 PM  
She has the power of an elite team of special effects wizards hovering just out of sight.
 
2020-11-25 10:36:59 PM  
They were experimented on with the Mind Stone. He got speedy, she got weird.
 
2020-11-25 10:44:43 PM  
She's a direct reality warper - it's not that complicated.  She wills, reality changes.  Why everyone's all confused in comics and the like when they try to figure her out - she's not using magic or anything else.  Just "No, reality needs to be like this atm."  They're just lucky she has to channel it into more or less comprehensible lines of force and the like - a full warper is for all intents and purposes a god.  And not the Thor "Well I'm pretty badass but..." kinda god.  We're talking old testament shiat.
 
2020-11-26 3:17:10 AM  
I liked the Quicksilver scenes better than any of the other stuff Scarlet Witch was in. I hate that they kill him off in every movie he's in.
 
2020-11-26 5:04:07 AM  
It's the power of the boobies. They hypnotize you and make you think whatever she wants you to.
 
2020-11-26 6:27:04 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: It's the power of the boobies. They hypnotize you and make you think whatever she wants you to.


It most definitely works!

As for her powers... she's a witch.  it's right there in her name!
 
2020-11-26 6:55:07 AM  
Because she's one of the worst characters in the Marvel universe and no one cares.
 
2020-11-26 7:18:03 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Because she's one of the worst characters in the Marvel universe and no one cares.


But she's so purdy...
 
2020-11-26 7:33:30 AM  
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2020-11-26 7:37:46 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: She's a direct reality warper - it's not that complicated.  She wills, reality changes.  Why everyone's all confused in comics and the like when they try to figure her out - she's not using magic or anything else.  Just "No, reality needs to be like this atm."  They're just lucky she has to channel it into more or less comprehensible lines of force and the like - a full warper is for all intents and purposes a god.  And not the Thor "Well I'm pretty badass but..." kinda god.  We're talking old testament shiat.


1. So how is all that not magic? I mean mean of the super powers are magic even if they have some hand wavy scifi mumbling about quantum gravitonation manipulation.
2. So like the ultimate positive affirmation self help coach.  Peale made manifest. Wonder what she would do if she lost a national election. Can she flip ballots?  Change regular ink to sharpie ink?
 
2020-11-26 7:43:33 AM  

NeoCortex42: They were experimented on with the Mind Stone. He got speedy, she got weird.


I could sort of understand if they had used the  Reality stone (Aether) which would allow her to warp reality to her will but they used the mind stone which, in my thinking, would give her mind control and perception powers. She could make people see illusions and create their deepest fears but not manipulate the physical world. Jane Foster, because of her incorporation of the Aether, should have reality distortion powers, such as the ability of a prima Donna to get out of the MCU.
 
2020-11-26 8:23:21 AM  

NeoCortex42: They were experimented on with the Mind Stone. He got speedy, she got weird.


Some Junkie Cosmonaut: She's a direct reality warper - it's not that complicated.  She wills, reality changes.


Basically this. The effects of the various stones are not exactly well-defined. Even the first Avengers movie seems confused about which stone is in Loki's Glowstick of Destiny. The twins are somehow "powered" by a stone. Captain Marvel is "powered" by a stone. The Vision is "powered" by a stone (although we never get to see what would have happened if it had been successfully removed...).

By the way, as I recall, in the comics the Cosmic Cube (equivalent to the Tesseract in the MCU) had reality-warping powers that were used by the Red Skull at least once. This was decades before the Infinity Stones were introduced. Not that this has any bearing on MCU continuity, mind you.
 
2020-11-26 8:28:17 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Just "No, reality needs to be like this atm."


ATM with Elizabeth Olsen?  Absolutely!
 
2020-11-26 8:31:34 AM  

buntz: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Just "No, reality needs to be like this atm."

ATM with Elizabeth Olsen?  Absolutely!


You say that now, but wait till you see the size of the strapon she's going to use on you.
 
2020-11-26 8:42:15 AM  
What's not to get?  She flips her hands around and looks totally stupid and then stuff happens.
 
2020-11-26 8:43:30 AM  

t3knomanser: buntz: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Just "No, reality needs to be like this atm."

ATM with Elizabeth Olsen?  Absolutely!

You say that now, but wait till you see the size of the strapon she's going to use on you.


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(See how I'm sticking with the motif?)
 
2020-11-26 8:45:16 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: It's the power of the boobies. They hypnotize you and make you think whatever she wants you to.


Makes up for her acting
 
2020-11-26 8:49:44 AM  

wingnut396: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: She's a direct reality warper - it's not that complicated.  She wills, reality changes.  Why everyone's all confused in comics and the like when they try to figure her out - she's not using magic or anything else.  Just "No, reality needs to be like this atm."  They're just lucky she has to channel it into more or less comprehensible lines of force and the like - a full warper is for all intents and purposes a god.  And not the Thor "Well I'm pretty badass but..." kinda god.  We're talking old testament shiat.

1. So how is all that not magic? I mean mean of the super powers are magic even if they have some hand wavy scifi mumbling about quantum gravitonation manipulation.
2. So like the ultimate positive affirmation self help coach.  Peale made manifest. Wonder what she would do if she lost a national election. Can she flip ballots?  Change regular ink to sharpie ink?


/nerd on

MCU Magic is using the ability to manipulate whatever the fark magic uses to get shiat done to effect a result.  It's apparently a force like gravity or something, and you can manipulate other stuff with it.   This takes measurable time, and uses energy conversion/movement parameters that make some sense in the physics of the universe once you understand it.

Warpers just think and it's done.  There's no measurable time delay (unless they impose it themselves, they're almost always weirdly limited in some fashion - likely the universe protecting itself from a plague of genuine omnipotent bastards) - there's no using other forces to manipulate and effect a result - it just was one way and now instantly it's another because that's how they want it.  You can't cut them off from their power or any of other shiat you can pull with magic users, because they need no outside source of anything.  They just are and they do.  Which is what makes them scary farking shiat even by MCU standards.

One reason you tend to see a lot of people fighting SW that go less with punches and more with attempting to convince her that she's in fact getting up to farked up shiat that she does not really want to do.  The only real way to stop a powerful warper in the end is to convince them not to do whatever it is - or at least to doubt that they should be doing it. Sometimes that's enough that their subconscious will make sure it goes south in some tolerable way.  Fortunately for the MCU, she's not a complete evil bastard and can be convinced sometimes.

/nerd off
 
2020-11-26 8:56:45 AM  

We Ate the Necco Wafers: I liked the Quicksilver scenes better than any of the other stuff Scarlet Witch was in. I hate that they kill him off in every movie he's in.


If the next strand of MCU is to be mutants... perhaps WandaVision's bringing Quicksilver back?
 
2020-11-26 9:18:22 AM  
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I'd say she's pretty well defined.
 
2020-11-26 9:29:16 AM  
Her powers are exactly whatever the writers want them to be at that moment.  Just kind Batman always has the right plan/tool.
 
2020-11-26 10:04:53 AM  
Someone is fishing for a No Prize
 
2020-11-26 10:52:54 AM  
Not explained well? Sure. Accurate to the source material? Also sure. How does a Mutant have "hex powers"? That's a bingo.
 
2020-11-26 11:15:40 AM  
The series finds Wanda and Vision after the events of Avengers: Infinity War

Didn't they both die?
 
2020-11-26 11:20:22 AM  

abhorrent1: The series finds Wanda and Vision after the events of Avengers: Infinity War

Didn't they both die?


No
 
2020-11-26 11:45:01 AM  
I dunno, they seem pretty well defined to me:

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2020-11-26 12:00:50 PM  
She has the power of a really good cosmetic surgeon. No way that nose isn't store bought.
 
2020-11-26 12:04:58 PM  
Up until Wandavision, her powers have been roughly the same as Jean Grey's powers: high-level telekinesis and telepathic abilities, especially in regards to influencing minds (although she hasn't done much of that since her debut).

Wandavision seems to finally be expanding her powers to something closer to her 616/comic book counterpart's abilities.
 
2020-11-26 12:06:37 PM  

portnoyd: Not explained well? Sure. Accurate to the source material? Also sure. How does a Mutant have "hex powers"? That's a bingo.


She's not a mutant. Hasn't been for ages. Actually, she wasn't from the beginning but they made her a mutant for a while to fit the whole "Magneto's daughter" thing. However she's not really Magneto's daughter and she's not a mutant. She's an experiment of the High Evolutionary. Same with Pietro.
 
2020-11-26 12:10:44 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: She's a direct reality warper - it's not that complicated.  She wills, reality changes.  Why everyone's all confused in comics and the like when they try to figure her out - she's not using magic or anything else.  Just "No, reality needs to be like this atm."  They're just lucky she has to channel it into more or less comprehensible lines of force and the like - a full warper is for all intents and purposes a god.  And not the Thor "Well I'm pretty badass but..." kinda god.  We're talking old testament shiat.


Yes. In the comics she's basically a less crazy, slightly less powerful version of the Molecule Man, though her powers work on reality itself while his change the fabric of the universe at the subatomic level.

Either way, people who can control everything with their minds and wills turn out to be a little batshiat, and you'd best bring them a pocket cheeseburger if you want to save the universe.
 
2020-11-26 12:13:43 PM  

Crewmannumber6: She has the power of a really good cosmetic surgeon. No way that nose isn't store bought.


She and her sisters have had the same nose their whole lives. She just didn't get pumped full of growth-stunting chemicals like Mary-Kate and Ashley
 
2020-11-26 1:21:20 PM  
As someone who has seen the movies but not read the comics, I figured it was because of her personal situation. She joined the team in a roundabout way that started with hostility towards Tony Stark. I could see why she'd want to keep her abilities hidden as much as possible. Vision was the team member she bonded with and that didn't happen for awhile. I see her approach being something like "So what do you need me to do?" and then she'd use her powers to do exactly that and nothing more. It was only as the threats they faced started to escalate into universe destroying levels that she started to unleash her powers in front of everyone.
 
2020-11-26 2:08:08 PM  

gopher321: She has the power of an elite team of special effects wizards hovering just out of sight.


I thought that was Mysterio.

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2020-11-26 2:13:50 PM  

iron de havilland: We Ate the Necco Wafers: I liked the Quicksilver scenes better than any of the other stuff Scarlet Witch was in. I hate that they kill him off in every movie he's in.

If the next strand of MCU is to be mutants... perhaps WandaVision's bringing Quicksilver back?


Or she pulls a Quicksilver into the MCU:

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2020-11-26 2:14:23 PM  
I reconcile it by thinking her power are the artificially created version of Carol Danvers' powers: an Infinity stone imparted funky abilities.

Danvers has more "oomph" but Wanda could still crack a planet if she was angry enough
 
2020-11-26 2:42:10 PM  
It turns you into the most talented Olsen sister.
 
2020-11-26 2:44:02 PM  
The MCU never really explains ANYONE's powers.
 
2020-11-26 2:44:51 PM  

wingnut396: 1. So how is all that not magic? I mean mean of the super powers are magic even if they have some hand wavy scifi mumbling about quantum gravitonation manipulation.


Remember the explanation of Dr. Strange's abilities was basically "It looks like magic but its not really magic."
 
2020-11-26 3:46:42 PM  
It's not difficult - her power is the ability to get a bad writer unstuck when they were themselves into a corner. As such, she is simultaneously stronger than a Celestial but weaker than Doctor Bong.

Marvel, more than any other company, has an incredible talent for hiring incompetent authors who have never bothered to read a comic book before taking on a character, and couldn't work continuity with spell check on.
 
2020-11-26 3:48:38 PM  
She manipulates chaotic energy.

This tears apart the universe, locally. She can use the energy released to manipulate reality. When her imagination fails, which os often, she resorts to throwing bolts of energy so dangerous that if you are hit with one (and not equipped with plot armor) it literally disintegrates your timeline. All the way back.

She's a menace and so is her husband.
 
2020-11-26 3:58:39 PM  

Slypork: NeoCortex42: They were experimented on with the Mind Stone. He got speedy, she got weird.

I could sort of understand if they had used the  Reality stone (Aether) which would allow her to warp reality to her will but they used the mind stone which, in my thinking, would give her mind control and perception powers. She could make people see illusions and create their deepest fears but not manipulate the physical world. Jane Foster, because of her incorporation of the Aether, should have reality distortion powers, such as the ability of a prima Donna to get out of the MCU.


The stones and the powers they give people never make any sense. The stone that made Carol Danvers really powerful was not the power stone, but the space stone, which is the one that essentially makes you teleport. But Captain Marvel can't teleport.
 
2020-11-26 4:35:14 PM  

Lusiphur: It's not difficult - her power is the ability to get a bad writer unstuck when they were themselves into a corner. As such, she is simultaneously stronger than a Celestial but weaker than Doctor Bong.

Marvel, more than any other company, has an incredible talent for hiring incompetent authors who have never bothered to read a comic book before taking on a character, and couldn't work continuity with spell check on.


Continuity is for suckers and children
 
2020-11-26 4:51:51 PM  
Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds
 
2020-11-26 5:49:19 PM  
Continuity is not really a thing the comics do.

Just be thankful the movies pay at least a little service toward it.
 
2020-11-26 5:51:06 PM  

We Ate the Necco Wafers: I liked the Quicksilver scenes better than any of the other stuff Scarlet Witch was in. I hate that they kill him off in every movie he's in.


Because from a physics standpoint, anyone wondering how the Flash, Quicksilver, or Superman can't just solve every problem by using their physics defying super speed to win 99.9% of scenarios makes them BORING.

The only thing that the super speed characters can't help with is anything not on the ground, near the ground, or sufficiently not near a ramp. Or locked in some unobtanium vault.
 
2020-11-26 5:58:50 PM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds


Little minds who don't have No Prizes.
 
2020-11-26 9:52:11 PM  

HugeMistake: ...as I recall, in the comics the Cosmic Cube (equivalent to the Tesseract in the MCU) had reality-warping powers that were used by the Red Skull at least once. This was decades before the Infinity Stones were introduced. Not that this has any bearing on MCU continuity, mind you.


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That's not how I remember it.
 
2020-11-26 9:56:51 PM  

Mad_Radhu: iron de havilland: We Ate the Necco Wafers: I liked the Quicksilver scenes better than any of the other stuff Scarlet Witch was in. I hate that they kill him off in every movie he's in.

If the next strand of MCU is to be mutants... perhaps WandaVision's bringing Quicksilver back?

Or she pulls a Quicksilver into the MCU:

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That could totally work within the context of a comic book movie. Just do a kind of multiverse handwave.
 
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