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2020-11-25 8:47:52 PM  
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2020-11-25 9:04:30 PM  

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But only from states where Democrats will be appointed to replace them.
 
2020-11-25 9:08:26 PM  
They wouldn't accept ...
 
2020-11-25 9:13:51 PM  

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But only from states where Democrats will be appointed to replace them.


Think of it this way.  The Republican governors will appoint another Republican to fill the seat.  The difference is that seniority determines seats and chairmanships on the various Senate committees, but that seniority does not transfer to the new appointees.

While it wouldn't change the balance of the Senate...it would change the makeup of quite a few committees.
 
2020-11-25 9:14:32 PM  

HawgWild: They wouldn't accept ...


Then they could be publicly called out for lacking bipartisanship/healing the country's divide... (not that either the Ds or Rs in this scenario have any intent on playing fair...but whoever sets the narrative puts the other on the defensive)
 
2020-11-25 9:14:47 PM  

HawgWild: They wouldn't accept ...


So then the next comment out of Biden and the Democrats should be "we tried to be bipartisan, see, we reached across the aisle and offered seats to the GOP and they refused!"

And then keep up the noise about the Do-Nothing Republicans hurting America and how they refuse to cooperate or act in a bipartisan fashion for the good of America.

This works for the right, flip the script on them for once and see if you can swing the moderates back.
 
2020-11-25 9:19:01 PM  
Yeah, that's not what he does.
 
2020-11-25 9:19:05 PM  
You think it would hurt their careers? Hell, their voters would EAT IT UP if they refused.

You seriously think no one has thought of this? It's so blindingly obvious, it's practically from a West Wing episode.

This. Wouldn't. Work.
 
2020-11-25 9:19:45 PM  

Recoil Therapy: HawgWild: They wouldn't accept ...

Then they could be publicly called out for lacking bipartisanship/healing the country's divide... (not that either the Ds or Rs in this scenario have any intent on playing fair...but whoever sets the narrative puts the other on the defensive)


The Democratic Party has no idea how to control the narrative.

For all the bullshiat spewed here about how great Pelosi is, she can't get her party heard in the so-called liberal media.  Maybe she ought to STFU and let the younger generation teach her about social media and sound bites.  Let Katie Potter and AOC manage the messaging.
 
2020-11-25 9:21:44 PM  

HawgWild: You think it would hurt their careers? Hell, their voters would EAT IT UP if they refused.

You seriously think no one has thought of this? It's so blindingly obvious, it's practically from a West Wing episode.

This. Wouldn't. Work.


It's not their committed voters we need to swing, it's the morons on the fence and who biatch about how both sides are bad.  Unless you're saying there's no point in trying something different....
 
2020-11-25 9:21:55 PM  
I would love to see Democrats play low-ball the way Republicans do.

I have no expectation that Democrats will play low-ball the way Republicans do.
 
2020-11-25 9:27:12 PM  

skyotter: I would love to see Democrats play low-ball the way Republicans do.

I have no expectation that Democrats will play low-ball the way Republicans do.


Obama had a shiat load of dirt on Bush when he took over.  Torture.  War crimes.  I'm not saying he was wrong not to use it but I have no doubt the Republicans would have used it.
 
2020-11-25 9:27:14 PM  

skyotter: I would love to see Democrats play low-ball the way Republicans do.

I have no expectation that Democrats will play low-ball the way Republicans do.


Well of course the Democrats won't play low-ball.

That requires Democrats to have balls of their own to play with.
 
2020-11-25 9:29:21 PM  

null: Unless you're saying there's no point in trying something different....


Yes. Cuz that's exactly what I said ...
 
2020-11-25 9:35:08 PM  

mrshowrules: skyotter: I would love to see Democrats play low-ball the way Republicans do.

I have no expectation that Democrats will play low-ball the way Republicans do.

Obama had a shiat load of dirt on Bush when he took over.  Torture.  War crimes.  I'm not saying he was wrong not to use it but I have no doubt the Republicans would have used it.


And the Republicans had no problem making shiat up on Obama since they couldn't get real honest dirt.

And Obama let it happen.

Imagine where we might be if Obama had shut down the birtherism from the start by saying, fine, you want the long form, let's go, get your f*cking Fox News crew on AF1, we're going to Hawaii to get it.

Instead of letting it drag out until the orange asshole leveraged it for his purposes and Obama provoked him by making fun of him in front of the nation.

It's like this meme that's made the circuit:

i.redd.itView Full Size
 
2020-11-25 9:54:18 PM  

null: mrshowrules: skyotter: I would love to see Democrats play low-ball the way Republicans do.

I have no expectation that Democrats will play low-ball the way Republicans do.

Obama had a shiat load of dirt on Bush when he took over.  Torture.  War crimes.  I'm not saying he was wrong not to use it but I have no doubt the Republicans would have used it.

And the Republicans had no problem making shiat up on Obama since they couldn't get real honest dirt.

And Obama let it happen.

Imagine where we might be if Obama had shut down the birtherism from the start by saying, fine, you want the long form, let's go, get your f*cking Fox News crew on AF1, we're going to Hawaii to get it.

Instead of letting it drag out until the orange asshole leveraged it for his purposes and Obama provoked him by making fun of him in front of the nation.

It's like this meme that's made the circuit:

[i.redd.it image 850x686]


There used to be a time when a President didn't even have to dignify crackpot conspiracy theories with any sort of acknowledgment at all, and they just died on the vine.

That time expired right around the time Fox News started being a megaphone for that shiat.
 
2020-11-25 10:44:15 PM  
Randi Rhodes was pushing this on her radio show about a week ago. Like many in this thread, my first reaction was "If they're from a state with a Dem Governor, they just won't accept."
 
2020-11-25 10:57:33 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: Randi Rhodes was pushing this on her radio show about a week ago. Like many in this thread, my first reaction was "If they're from a state with a Dem Governor, they just won't accept."


Maybe you looking into their campaign financing.  That might be a motivation.
 
2020-11-25 11:21:04 PM  

mrshowrules: Three Crooked Squirrels: Randi Rhodes was pushing this on her radio show about a week ago. Like many in this thread, my first reaction was "If they're from a state with a Dem Governor, they just won't accept."

Maybe you looking into their campaign financing.  That might be a motivation.


Maybe, but I'm not so sure I want our new administration to say "You are a crook. We know it. We have your campaign disclosures. So join our team and we'll ignore all that!"
 
2020-11-25 11:22:05 PM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: mrshowrules: Three Crooked Squirrels: Randi Rhodes was pushing this on her radio show about a week ago. Like many in this thread, my first reaction was "If they're from a state with a Dem Governor, they just won't accept."

Maybe you looking into their campaign financing.  That might be a motivation.

Maybe, but I'm not so sure I want our new administration to say "You are a crook. We know it. We have your campaign disclosures. So join our team and we'll ignore all that!"


I'm saying that.  I'm just saying...that.
 
2020-11-26 12:35:07 AM  

skyotter: I would love to see Democrats play low-ball the way Republicans do.

I have no expectation that Democrats will play low-ball the way Republicans do.


That's why they're Democrats.  If they were criminals, liars, and cheaters, they'd be Republicans.
 
2020-11-26 1:12:37 AM  
I never really liked Twitter.
 
2020-11-26 1:23:53 AM  
I would bet more republican senators would agree than you ask realize. They want out if the right wing shiat show.
 
2020-11-26 1:27:20 AM  

PaulRB: skyotter: I would love to see Democrats play low-ball the way Republicans do.

I have no expectation that Democrats will play low-ball the way Republicans do.

That's why they're Democrats.  If they were criminals, liars, and cheaters, they'd be Republicans.


That's the primary difference between the two parties, and why Democrats struggle to fight back. The parties are not 'left-leaning' vs 'right-leaning', they're 'Actual politicians' vs. 'a hideous amalgamation of the mafia and a death cult, wearing the skin of a political party'.

The Democrats are trying to play by the old rules, where traditions, appearances and rules matter. Republicans are not bound by any of that shiat, but they're happy to weaponize it all against the Democrats.

It's like the old 'trying to play chess with a pigeon' analogy, except no matter how often the pigeon shiats on the board, the Democrats act like it made a legitimate move.
 
2020-11-26 1:28:42 AM  

Mztlplx: FirstNationalBastard: Original: Original Tweet:

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But only from states where Democrats will be appointed to replace them.

Think of it this way.  The Republican governors will appoint another Republican to fill the seat.  The difference is that seniority determines seats and chairmanships on the various Senate committees, but that seniority does not transfer to the new appointees.

While it wouldn't change the balance of the Senate...it would change the makeup of quite a few committees.


Committees would still be chaired by a member of the majority party, regardless of any seniority held by the ranking member from the minority party. Nothing would really change in your scenario.
 
2020-11-26 1:29:12 AM  

null: Instead of letting it drag out until the orange asshole leveraged it for his purposes and Obama provoked him by making fun of him in front of the nation.


F*cking really??
 
2020-11-26 1:31:07 AM  

null: Recoil Therapy: HawgWild: They wouldn't accept ...

Then they could be publicly called out for lacking bipartisanship/healing the country's divide... (not that either the Ds or Rs in this scenario have any intent on playing fair...but whoever sets the narrative puts the other on the defensive)

The Democratic Party has no idea how to control the narrative.

For all the bullshiat spewed here about how great Pelosi is, she can't get her party heard in the so-called liberal media.  Maybe she ought to STFU and let the younger generation teach her about social media and sound bites.  Let Katie Potter and AOC manage the messaging.


It doesn't matter what Democrats do, the "liberal media" will always play nice with Republicans while harshly criticizing every the left does. That's what gets them ratings and money.
 
2020-11-26 1:31:57 AM  

null: mrshowrules: skyotter: I would love to see Democrats play low-ball the way Republicans do.

I have no expectation that Democrats will play low-ball the way Republicans do.

Obama had a shiat load of dirt on Bush when he took over.  Torture.  War crimes.  I'm not saying he was wrong not to use it but I have no doubt the Republicans would have used it.

And the Republicans had no problem making shiat up on Obama since they couldn't get real honest dirt.

And Obama let it happen.

Imagine where we might be if Obama had shut down the birtherism from the start by saying, fine, you want the long form, let's go, get your f*cking Fox News crew on AF1, we're going to Hawaii to get it.

Instead of letting it drag out until the orange asshole leveraged it for his purposes and Obama provoked him by making fun of him in front of the nation.

It's like this meme that's made the circuit:

[i.redd.it image 850x686]


i.imgflip.comView Full Size
 
2020-11-26 1:32:13 AM  

Kittypie070: null: Instead of letting it drag out until the orange asshole leveraged it for his purposes and Obama provoked him by making fun of him in front of the nation.

F*cking really??


Remember, everything is Obama's fault.
 
2020-11-26 1:32:26 AM  
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Hmmmmmmmmm
 
2020-11-26 1:33:20 AM  

Recoil Therapy: HawgWild: They wouldn't accept ...

Then they could be publicly called out for lacking bipartisanship/healing the country's divide... (not that either the Ds or Rs in this scenario have any intent on playing fair...but whoever sets the narrative puts the other on the defensive)


LOL like they care. They didn't convict Trump, they confirmed Amy. They are OPENLY party before country and their voters love it.
 
2020-11-26 1:34:02 AM  
Perhaps a better move would be to convince a senator or two to change there party affiliation from Republican to Independent (Looking at you, lame duck Toomey!) & conference with the Dems. Perhaps a chairmanship offer?
 
2020-11-26 1:48:01 AM  
They all see king turd Moscow Mitch atop the shiat heap and all want to take his place one day. The only thing that would change that would be a huge pile of FU money, and Uncle Joe isn't exactly swimming in cash.
 
2020-11-26 1:50:12 AM  

Kittypie070: null: Instead of letting it drag out until the orange asshole leveraged it for his purposes and Obama provoked him by making fun of him in front of the nation.

F*cking really??


It was Seth Myers, actually.
 
2020-11-26 1:52:39 AM  

null: Recoil Therapy: HawgWild: They wouldn't accept ...

Then they could be publicly called out for lacking bipartisanship/healing the country's divide... (not that either the Ds or Rs in this scenario have any intent on playing fair...but whoever sets the narrative puts the other on the defensive)

The Democratic Party has no idea how to control the narrative.

For all the bullshiat spewed here about how great Pelosi is, she can't get her party heard in the so-called liberal media.  Maybe she ought to STFU and let the younger generation teach her about social media and sound bites.  Let Katie Potter and AOC manage the messaging.


BERNIE LOST GET OVER IT
 
2020-11-26 1:55:13 AM  

Mztlplx: FirstNationalBastard: Original: Original Tweet:

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But only from states where Democrats will be appointed to replace them.

Think of it this way.  The Republican governors will appoint another Republican to fill the seat.  The difference is that seniority determines seats and chairmanships on the various Senate committees, but that seniority does not transfer to the new appointees.

While it wouldn't change the balance of the Senate...it would change the makeup of quite a few committees.


I like that idea, a lot. Sneaky, it seems like something that could float under the radar. As much as I like the original idea, I can't see republican leadership letting it happen. But man I like the way you think.
 
2020-11-26 1:59:55 AM  
Lol, no. They're evil, not stupid.
 
2020-11-26 2:07:12 AM  
This happened in President Obama's first term, the guy accepted and then got told no by the party.
 
2020-11-26 2:09:39 AM  

HawgWild: They wouldn't accept ...


They have no choice if he hereby declares it on twitter.
 
2020-11-26 2:10:49 AM  
I wouldn't give them cabinet positions.  Ambassadorships would work just as well, just make sure they're to shiatty countries.

But chances are that wouldn't work either, since the GOP is kinda smarter than that but just by a little.
 
2020-11-26 2:19:36 AM  

Guntram Shatterhand: I wouldn't give them cabinet positions.  Ambassadorships would work just as well, just make sure they're to shiatty countries.

But chances are that wouldn't work either, since the GOP is kinda smarter than that but just by a little.


GoP voters are, for the most part, morons. The people who run the GoP? They have been many steps ahead of the game for decades. And I am not talking about people like Trump, I am talking about the people that actually make the decisions.
 
2020-11-26 2:21:16 AM  

PanicMan: Lol, no. They're evil, not stupid.


[Whynotboth.jpg]
 
2020-11-26 2:24:01 AM  
I hate to say this, but trump did rid the nation of a sessions problem that way.

I am not defending papaya pol pot or anything he did, but in that case ... I know, it went back to the r . but
 
2020-11-26 2:26:36 AM  
I choose to be hopeful that Biden surprises us all by having big brass balls and ushering in a era where even the redcaps have to grudgingly admit America is in good hands.

Early in my nearly three decade military career, I identified two type of men. There were the men that would throw their arm around your shoulder, call you Darlin'. They were squared away and had your back. Then there were the creepy guys that looked you up and down like you were naked, and tried to cop a feel if they got within arm's reach. (Plenty of men fell between those relative extremes).  Most female vets can back me up on that.

Biden is the first type of man, trump is the second.  I chalk his fondness for little  girls up to the fact he lost a toddler daughter. He's also acknowledged that social norms have changed and now keeps respectful distance. That is what adults do. They evolve.  I get perhaps unreasonably pissed at  those who try to paint Joe, the devoted family man, as a pedo (in defense of that sleazy SOB 45, of all people). Grrr.

I can't wait till that foul beast no longer pollutes our national psyche.
 
2020-11-26 2:26:58 AM  
I nominate this one
OUCH! New ad Lindsey Graham Luvs Joe Biden - Questions Lindsey's Trump switching
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2020-11-26 2:28:27 AM  
....People don't actually believe that a 78 year old career politician who has been doing it for like 90 years and never held a real job in his entire life is actually going to do that....right?
 
2020-11-26 2:34:27 AM  

fragMasterFlash: They all see king turd Moscow Mitch atop the shiat heap and all want to take his place one day. The only thing that would change that would be a huge pile of FU money, and Uncle Joe isn't exactly swimming in cash.


There are less expensive (and more permanent) solutions to the problem of the Treason Turtle. Just sayin'.

(Hi, Mr FBI Agent!)
 
2020-11-26 2:47:47 AM  

null: The Democratic Party has no idea how to control the narrative.


You could have stopped without the last five words.

The Democratic Party has no idea. About anything. Least of all about winning political battles.
 
2020-11-26 2:55:16 AM  
This kind of childish, ill-thought-out, glaringly obvious playground-move "strategy" is about what you can expect from the olds on Twitter. It might have worked, once, on one person, in like the 1970s or something. Here in the future it is not only doomed to failure but doomed to vicious backlash against anyone who tries it. A politically literate public would dismiss it instantly.

And that's the heart of the problem, isn't it? This is thread number 9,837 blaming the Democratic Party and journalists - and to a lesser extent, Fox News - for the continued reprehensible actions, lack of ideas and lying bullshiat from the formerly Republican Party. It's not 'the Democrats.' It's not 'the media.' Stop pretending these things are separate from the American public they represent: The problem is you.
 
2020-11-26 3:02:02 AM  

Recoil Therapy: HawgWild: They wouldn't accept ...

Then they could be publicly called out for lacking bipartisanship/healing the country's divide... (not that either the Ds or Rs in this scenario have any intent on playing fair...but whoever sets the narrative puts the other on the defensive)


Even the dumbest person would see this for the lame play that it is.  Democrats wouldn't score any points with it.

Maybe not the dumbest.  Clearly there are people, both in TFA and in this thread, who think it constitutes a brilliant idea.

Besides, the states with 1 or 2 R senators and D governors are: KS(2), KY(2), ME, MT, NC(2), PA, and WI.  Name the ones who would be willing to work in the Biden administration, or would even be hurt by declining.  Presumably, it would be the ones in states Biden won, which are ME, PA, and WI.  ME is Susan Collins, who just won reelection and thus has 6 years to let any animosity fade, if she even has a chance next time around anyway.  PA is Pat Toomey, who is retiring at the end of his term in 2022. WI is Ron Johnson, who is a staunch Trumper.
 
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