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2020-11-25 3:43:28 PM  
I concur.  I had this naive idea that the government and its entrenchment would limit his damage, but he reaped an impressive screw up of foreign policy.  A lot of this with Senate Republicans who make it so every thing has to be done in the executive branch now.  So everything that Obama had to do by executive action (Iran, TPP, expand DACA) was easy to reverse.

I also believed that, being someone who desperately wants to be liked, that he would try to do things most people like.  It turns out that he always knew that his core audience from day one were suckups, screwups, and miscreants.  He was only a president for the people from your high school who liked him as a rich guy on TV that acted like a dickhead.  He personified their dreams:  wealth and influence with no work.  He viewed it as a chance to get payback on all the celebrities who never liked him.  A lot of them were libs, so the libs needed to be owned.
 
2020-11-25 3:58:28 PM  
Trump is a wet dream for "conservatives." No clue about the appeal because I've hated him since the 80s. Just a complete all-around POS.

I'm kinda amazed he hasn't launched a nuke ... but until DJT no longer has access to launch codes, he can still go full Freddy Krueger.
 
2020-11-25 5:56:00 PM  
Barack Obama...and I...have something in common...
 
2020-11-25 5:56:08 PM  
Counterpoint: He hasn't actually nuked anyone yet.

*knocks wood nervously*
 
2020-11-25 5:57:39 PM  
Donnie was stupider and lazier than I had imagined possible.
 
2020-11-25 5:58:31 PM  
FTA: "Demonstrating a surprising historical knowledge of Colbert's career,... "

What's surprising? Wasn't Obama on TCR once or twice?
 
2020-11-25 6:00:34 PM  
Yeah, uh, not very imaginative.

First thing I did the day after Trump won in 2016, buy an oyster mushroom growing kit because I was concerned a food shortage was imminent in the next 4 years.

The food shortage did start in 2020, but I was expecting to be either in Russian prison due to non-crimes, dead, in prison due to Jeff Sessions criminalizing my medicine, or nursing wounded resistance fighters in a shooting war.
 
2020-11-25 6:00:58 PM  
Anybody who noted Trump antics in the 90's knew this was going to be a shiatshow.
 
2020-11-25 6:02:02 PM  
Chuck Norris warmed us re-electing Obama would usher in a thousand years of darkness. We're only on year eight.
 
2020-11-25 6:03:01 PM  
Yeah mine too. Every time I would concoct the worst case scenario I could concieve of, he'd manage to make it worse. Every time I would try to think "Who would be the biggest sleaze bag scumball vile piece of filth you could appoint" he'd find someone 10x worse than that.

It was impressive, his ability to fark up absolute everything he touched. Most of us, if paid millions to *actively* destroy this country would still fall short of how much he succeeded in that respect.

I'd say he should work in demolitions because he's a grand master in destroying anything he touches, but that requires a lot of technical knowledge and physics.

He's best place in society; is not being in society.
 
2020-11-25 6:03:49 PM  
There is a reason Republicans have lost virtually every popular vote in the past 30 years. The article below was not done in hindsight. It really was published in 2001.

The Onion - January 17, 2001- Bush: 'Our Long National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity Is Finally Over'
"My fellow Americans," Bush said, "at long last, we have reached the end of the dark period in American history that will come to be known as the Clinton Era, eight long years characterized by unprecedented economic expansion, a sharp decrease in crime, and sustained peace overseas. The time has come to put all of that behind us."


That's just a snippet. Read the whole thing if you have a couple of minutes.
 
2020-11-25 6:05:13 PM  

Purple_Urkle: Yeah, uh, not very imaginative.

First thing I did the day after Trump won in 2016, buy an oyster mushroom growing kit because I was concerned a food shortage was imminent in the next 4 years.

The food shortage did start in 2020, but I was expecting to be either in Russian prison due to non-crimes, dead, in prison due to Jeff Sessions criminalizing my medicine, or nursing wounded resistance fighters in a shooting war.


Biden ain't President yet. Nursing resistance fighters in a shooting war isn't off the table just yet.
 
2020-11-25 6:06:17 PM  

quatchi: Counterpoint: He hasn't actually nuked anyone yet.

*knocks wood nervously*


I'm just hoping whoever's guarding the football has the courage to disobey the chickenshiat and save us all.
 
2020-11-25 6:07:26 PM  

one of Ripley's Bad Guys: Anybody who noted Trump antics in the 90's knew this was going to be a shiatshow.


As did everyone who listened to a word he blarted, from the 2015 golden escaloator ride to the election day 2016.

Electing Trump was a shameful act that will harm America for decades to come.
 
2020-11-25 6:07:37 PM  

foo monkey: Chuck Norris warmed us re-electing Obama would usher in a thousand years of darkness. We're only on year eight.


I prefer not to listen to a martial artist actor that got his ass kicked by Bruce Lee.
I know, it's just a movie but still.
 
2020-11-25 6:10:17 PM  
Not quite as farked up as my worst case (less plausible) imaginings but man, just like a lot of these "Rich Business Guy Mavericks who are also Junkies or Psychos" that have been elected in the west he did more harm more imaginatively than I had ever anticipated.

Some of the shiat the Trump admin did wouldn't even occur to me to imagine someone bad doing.
 
2020-11-25 6:11:00 PM  

Purple_Urkle: Yeah, uh, not very imaginative.

First thing I did the day after Trump won in 2016, buy an oyster mushroom growing kit because I was concerned a food shortage was imminent in the next 4 years.

The food shortage did start in 2020, but I was expecting to be either in Russian prison due to non-crimes, dead, in prison due to Jeff Sessions criminalizing my medicine, or nursing wounded resistance fighters in a shooting war.


On the bright side, you gained a useful skill.
 
2020-11-25 6:12:05 PM  

HerptheDerp: Biden ain't President yet. Nursing resistance fighters in a shooting war isn't off the table just yet.


Trump addressed Rudy's Pennsylvania derp commission today and said "we won the election by a huge margin, Democrats cheated" (paraphrasing, I don't find a transcript ).

The majority of Republicans believe him. There will be violence. The Michigan militia threat to Whitmer was just the tip of the iceberg.
 
2020-11-25 6:12:27 PM  
Agree or disagree with his policies. There can be many debates about that. I'm very firmly on both sides of the aisle depending upon the topic (also Canadian so really my point is moot). One thing that can not be objected on....IMHO...President Obama was "presidential", seemingly a pretty good person, who tried his best. I don't know what else one could ask for. I hope Biden strives for the same goals. He won't be perfect, and we (anyone) won't agree with everything. Just be a decent person, do the best you can. I can live in a world where more people just do that.
 
2020-11-25 6:12:37 PM  

Purple_Urkle: Yeah, uh, not very imaginative.

First thing I did the day after Trump won in 2016, buy an oyster mushroom growing kit because I was concerned a food shortage was imminent in the next 4 years.

The food shortage did start in 2020, but I was expecting to be either in Russian prison due to non-crimes, dead, in prison due to Jeff Sessions criminalizing my medicine, or nursing wounded resistance fighters in a shooting war.


Why Oyster mushrooms?
 
2020-11-25 6:15:38 PM  

HerptheDerp: Purple_Urkle: Yeah, uh, not very imaginative.

First thing I did the day after Trump won in 2016, buy an oyster mushroom growing kit because I was concerned a food shortage was imminent in the next 4 years.

The food shortage did start in 2020, but I was expecting to be either in Russian prison due to non-crimes, dead, in prison due to Jeff Sessions criminalizing my medicine, or nursing wounded resistance fighters in a shooting war.

Biden ain't President yet. Nursing resistance fighters in a shooting war isn't off the table just yet.


Putin actively "guides" Russian pop music. It's possible to get a glimpse of Putin's wildest fantasies, dreams and plans from Russian music.
DJ Blyatman & Hard Bass School - AREA 51 (Official Video)
Youtube iobUHYGlUlY
 
2020-11-25 6:16:17 PM  
I thought the three separate branches and the checks and balances would slow him down. I also thought most of his humpers would drop him once they saw his arrogance and incompetent.  But I underestimated his humpers and somehow three branches merged in to one.
 
2020-11-25 6:16:25 PM  

pueblonative: quatchi: Counterpoint: He hasn't actually nuked anyone yet.

*knocks wood nervously*

I'm just hoping whoever's guarding the football has the courage to disobey the chickenshiat and save us all.


I hope the joint chiefs have the real nuclear football by now and Trump just has an actual football with word "nukular" written on the side in gold sharpie.
 
2020-11-25 6:18:03 PM  

Jormungandr: Purple_Urkle: Yeah, uh, not very imaginative.

First thing I did the day after Trump won in 2016, buy an oyster mushroom growing kit because I was concerned a food shortage was imminent in the next 4 years.

The food shortage did start in 2020, but I was expecting to be either in Russian prison due to non-crimes, dead, in prison due to Jeff Sessions criminalizing my medicine, or nursing wounded resistance fighters in a shooting war.

Why Oyster mushrooms?


I was in an apartment with a closet and no yard.

They're not super complicated to grow from a kit.

Now i have a yard and a body of water nearby that I could gather polluted animals out of to eat during war time.
 
2020-11-25 6:18:09 PM  

one of Ripley's Bad Guys: Anybody who noted Trump antics in the 90's knew this was going to be a shiatshow.


He had the racial housing discrimination in the 70s, tenant intimidation and the Central Park Five nonsense in the 80s, the beauty pageant fiasco and the Home Alone sequel in the 90s, and his "university" and "foundation" in the 00s, with a peppering of assault allegations scattered across the whole timeline... so I'm really unsure about which farking decade people are looking to, exactly. He's human garbage.
 
2020-11-25 6:20:23 PM  
I can honestly say that I was both surprised, and not at the same time.
I was not surprised at what he wanted to do and tried to do, but I was surprised at both his complete incompetence (other than spouting BS, he is an expert at that), and just how much he actually got away with, mainly because the pet republican congress critters wouldn't stop licking his ass.

The damage he has done, and continues to do, is incalculable and I will be farking PISSED if Joe's DOJ doesn't go after him. This example MUST not be allowed to walk away unscathed.

That said I have the next 4 days off after tragic times (family drug addiction, mental illness and death), so I'mma gonna go take a puff, go in the back yard and throw an axe, and pretend the world doesn't exist for the next 40 hours or so.
 
2020-11-25 6:23:14 PM  
Oh, how I wish this hadn't been true every single day since the moment he announced his candidacy.

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2020-11-25 6:24:39 PM  

one of Ripley's Bad Guys: Anybody who noted Trump antics in the 90's knew this was going to be a shiatshow.


I knew it would be a shiat show when I listened to him go on Howard Stern, get a simple math problem wrong, then insist he was correct and the calculator was wrong.

Definitely explains his 'I won' bullsh*t.
 
2020-11-25 6:26:55 PM  
I'm shocked Trump didn't cause more damage and so many Americans are still alive and still Americans (not New California Republican, Jeffersonian, Delmarvian, etc), but that doesn't diminish or excuse the massive amount of damage Trump has done, physically and mentally to all Americans.
 
2020-11-25 6:27:11 PM  

Purple_Urkle: HerptheDerp: Purple_Urkle: Yeah, uh, not very imaginative.

First thing I did the day after Trump won in 2016, buy an oyster mushroom growing kit because I was concerned a food shortage was imminent in the next 4 years.

The food shortage did start in 2020, but I was expecting to be either in Russian prison due to non-crimes, dead, in prison due to Jeff Sessions criminalizing my medicine, or nursing wounded resistance fighters in a shooting war.

Biden ain't President yet. Nursing resistance fighters in a shooting war isn't off the table just yet.

Putin actively "guides" Russian pop music. It's possible to get a glimpse of Putin's wildest fantasies, dreams and plans from Russian music.
[YouTube video: DJ Blyatman & Hard Bass School - AREA 51 (Official Video)]


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2020-11-25 6:30:30 PM  

Threp: Purple_Urkle: Yeah, uh, not very imaginative.

First thing I did the day after Trump won in 2016, buy an oyster mushroom growing kit because I was concerned a food shortage was imminent in the next 4 years.

The food shortage did start in 2020, but I was expecting to be either in Russian prison due to non-crimes, dead, in prison due to Jeff Sessions criminalizing my medicine, or nursing wounded resistance fighters in a shooting war.

On the bright side, you gained a useful skill.


Jormungandr: Why Oyster mushrooms?

Yes, it is a skill, but it is also stupid easy to do with oyster mushrooms... and they have a HELL of a lot more flavor fresh than store bought.

Go to a good store and buy some... you want as much stem/base as possible (the mycelium), not the cap. Shave that part off onto some damp paper towels, put in a shallow, breathing plastic container (I used an old scone/danish container), cover with more damp paper towels, put into a paper bag (not tightly sealed), put into a corner of your garage and keep it damp every few days. In 1-3 weeks the paper towels should be covered with a white "mold" looking stuff... congrats, you have just propagated the mycelium, the body of mushrooms (the caps are just the fruiting structures developed under stress). Take that and place it in a clear 5 gallon plastic bag in the center of a bunch of straw you sterilized by putting it into a cooler and soaking it with boiling water for 5 minutes. Hang in a cool, damp place out of direct sunlight, and watch your mushrooms grow right out of the sides.

Enjoy.
 
2020-11-25 6:30:44 PM  

Aviron: Agree or disagree with his policies. There can be many debates about that. I'm very firmly on both sides of the aisle depending upon the topic (also Canadian so really my point is moot). One thing that can not be objected on....IMHO...President Obama was "presidential", seemingly a pretty good person, who tried his best. I don't know what else one could ask for. I hope Biden strives for the same goals. He won't be perfect, and we (anyone) won't agree with everything. Just be a decent person, do the best you can. I can live in a world where more people just do that.


His policies were grift, racism, and personal power. He would spout any lie to advice those. Don't fool yourself thinking he had any greater motivation or belief. Everything he put forth was subject to change based on his feelings at the moment if he could gain a temporary advantage. No decent person supports that.
 
2020-11-25 6:31:32 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: I thought the three separate branches and the checks and balances would slow him down. I also thought most of his humpers would drop him once they saw his arrogance and incompetent.  But I underestimated his humpers and somehow three branches merged in to one.


You took the words out of my mouth. You are spot-on!
 
2020-11-25 6:32:15 PM  
One of Obama's biggest failings has always been his uncanny ability to severely underestimate exactly how shiatty Republicans are. You would think he would have learned his lesson by now, but he still somehow seems to expect decency and shame from them. And he continually insists on dealing with them as if they will ever act in good faith. I really don't understand how he has held on to those delusions, or why.
 
2020-11-25 6:32:18 PM  
That guy can throw shade with grace, style, and eloquence.
 
2020-11-25 6:35:38 PM  

quatchi: Counterpoint: He hasn't actually nuked anyone yet.

*knocks wood nervously*


I'm sure it's not for lack of trying.
 
2020-11-25 6:36:29 PM  
Trump was the worst possible choice to even attempt at being president .. Why anyone could ever think he was qualified to be the leader of one of the most complex countries in the world is beyond belief .. No experience whatsoever and lacking the mental capacity to comprehend  how complex it could be he was doomed to fail before he was even elected ..
 
2020-11-25 6:38:06 PM  

Scoobie: Trump is a wet dream for "conservatives." No clue about the appeal because I've hated him since the 80s. Just a complete all-around POS.

I'm kinda amazed he hasn't launched a nuke ... but until DJT no longer has access to launch codes, he can still go full Freddy Krueger.


I'd bet the only reason he hasn't loosed a strategic weapon is that he couldn't pay attention during the procedures briefing for more than a minute and he's incapable of carrying out the launch procedure. It might even be the case for the more conventional military actions as well, he probably just doesn't know how to actually operate his military to start anything that requires any sort of coordination between the services.
 
2020-11-25 6:38:34 PM  
Exceeded?
That's nice, but we're right where I thought we'd be. Minus at least one nuked hurricane.
 
2020-11-25 6:39:15 PM  

Purple_Urkle: Jormungandr: Purple_Urkle: Yeah, uh, not very imaginative.

First thing I did the day after Trump won in 2016, buy an oyster mushroom growing kit because I was concerned a food shortage was imminent in the next 4 years.

The food shortage did start in 2020, but I was expecting to be either in Russian prison due to non-crimes, dead, in prison due to Jeff Sessions criminalizing my medicine, or nursing wounded resistance fighters in a shooting war.

Why Oyster mushrooms?

I was in an apartment with a closet and no yard.

They're not super complicated to grow from a kit.

Now i have a yard and a body of water nearby that I could gather polluted animals out of to eat during war time.


I've always wanted to have more property and live near a body of water.  I should start growing oyster mushrooms.  They sound wonderful!
 
2020-11-25 6:43:53 PM  

ChiliBoots: Scoobie: Trump is a wet dream for "conservatives." No clue about the appeal because I've hated him since the 80s. Just a complete all-around POS.

I'm kinda amazed he hasn't launched a nuke ... but until DJT no longer has access to launch codes, he can still go full Freddy Krueger.

I'd bet the only reason he hasn't loosed a strategic weapon is that he couldn't pay attention during the procedures briefing for more than a minute and he's incapable of carrying out the launch procedure. It might even be the case for the more conventional military actions as well, he probably just doesn't know how to actually operate his military to start anything that requires any sort of coordination between the services.


That and nobody up to this point was going to follow an order to nuke a major US city or send tanks and combat choppers after BLM protestors. That may change since he's firing everyone who ever told him no while staging a coup and pardoning his treasonous canal of shifty political operatives.
 
2020-11-25 6:45:46 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Aviron: Agree or disagree with his policies. There can be many debates about that. I'm very firmly on both sides of the aisle depending upon the topic (also Canadian so really my point is moot). One thing that can not be objected on....IMHO...President Obama was "presidential", seemingly a pretty good person, who tried his best. I don't know what else one could ask for. I hope Biden strives for the same goals. He won't be perfect, and we (anyone) won't agree with everything. Just be a decent person, do the best you can. I can live in a world where more people just do that.

His policies were grift, racism, and personal power. He would spout any lie to advice those. Don't fool yourself thinking he had any greater motivation or belief. Everything he put forth was subject to change based on his feelings at the moment if he could gain a temporary advantage. No decent person supports that.


i think you may have misread Aviron.
and who in the heck smarted your comment?
 
2020-11-25 6:46:15 PM  

quatchi: Counterpoint: He hasn't actually nuked anyone yet.

*knocks wood nervously*



This.

/ Joins quatchi in knocking on wood
 
2020-11-25 6:46:25 PM  
If he steps aside to let Pence pardon him, I would expect Mikey to nuke Iran to bring the End Times before he signs the pardon.  Maybe after signing it...
 
2020-11-25 6:52:57 PM  

Purple_Urkle: Yeah, uh, not very imaginative.

First thing I did the day after Trump won in 2016, buy an oyster mushroom growing kit because I was concerned a food shortage was imminent in the next 4 years.

The food shortage did start in 2020, but I was expecting to be either in Russian prison due to non-crimes, dead, in prison due to Jeff Sessions criminalizing my medicine, or nursing wounded resistance fighters in a shooting war.


How many mushrooms did you expect to eat? Was that gonna be it?

Why not... like... a canning rig?
 
2020-11-25 6:53:02 PM  

autofire372: FTA: "Demonstrating a surprising historical knowledge of Colbert's career,... "

What's surprising? Wasn't Obama on TCR once or twice?


Yeah, they're friends.  Obama ordered the general to shave Colbert's head.  Obama also let Colbert sit on the main table during a state dinner for the PM of France, who was single at the time.  Colbert went on TV the next night claiming he was the First Lady of France.
 
2020-11-25 6:55:30 PM  

Jormungandr: Purple_Urkle: Yeah, uh, not very imaginative.

First thing I did the day after Trump won in 2016, buy an oyster mushroom growing kit because I was concerned a food shortage was imminent in the next 4 years.

The food shortage did start in 2020, but I was expecting to be either in Russian prison due to non-crimes, dead, in prison due to Jeff Sessions criminalizing my medicine, or nursing wounded resistance fighters in a shooting war.

Why Oyster mushrooms?


Right? Magic mushrooms... now _that_ I can understand
 
2020-11-25 6:57:05 PM  

Percise1: I can honestly say that I was both surprised, and not at the same time.
I was not surprised at what he wanted to do and tried to do, but I was surprised at both his complete incompetence (other than spouting BS, he is an expert at that), and just how much he actually got away with, mainly because the pet republican congress critters wouldn't stop licking his ass.

The damage he has done, and continues to do, is incalculable and I will be farking PISSED if Joe's DOJ doesn't go after him. This example MUST not be allowed to walk away unscathed.

That said I have the next 4 days off after tragic times (family drug addiction, mental illness and death), so I'mma gonna go take a puff, go in the back yard and throw an axe, and pretend the world doesn't exist for the next 40 hours or so.


Sorry for your loss... username checks out at least... well maybe.
 
2020-11-25 7:03:31 PM  
My most optimistic scenario was that Trump would be Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura on a national level: A spectacle, but a largely impotent one due to ineptitude, laziness, and a habit of pissing off both Democrats and Republican officeholders. But then the Republican party and all it claimed to stand for were devoured by Trump. His inured cruelty, criminality, and narcissism were enabled completely by the grifters, zealots, and opportunists who had the willingness and ability to do so. Republican officeholders who could hold him in check instead prostrated themselves in front of him.

Jesse Venture, for all of his many shortcomings, he at least seemed to be able to recognize he had them. Jesse would've just punted the pandemic response to people like Fauci and let the government do what it was designed to do. Trump, lacking any such self-awareness, micromanaged it into the ground and abandoned it.
 
2020-11-25 7:04:14 PM  
Frankly, Obama deserves much of the blame for Trump. Obama was informed of Trump's Russia connections prior to the 2016 election. Obama went to Mitch McConnell, in the hopes of securing bipartisan support to do something (unspecified), but McConnell refused to do anything to help a Democrat.

Seems to me the appropriate presidential response to the prospects of a potential Russian asset being installed in the White House, with the support of the Republican senate leadership, would be to go public and put everyone involved under house arrest until the matter could be completely investigated.

Obama, instead, did nothing.
 
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