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(KIRO-7 Seattle)   Tesla is recalling 9,000 vehicles due to adhesive issue, which is certainly a sticky situation   (kiro7.com) divider line
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2020-11-25 12:34:35 PM  
Apparently in a handful of cases, owners experienced accidental separation of where their mouths attach to Elon's dick. Very rare.
 
2020-11-25 12:37:12 PM  
A sticker hadn't been entirely properly stuck on?
 
2020-11-25 12:49:06 PM  

NikolaiFarkoff: Apparently in a handful of cases, owners experienced accidental separation of where their mouths attach to Elon's dick. Very rare.


You don't have to suck Elon to appreciate a Tesla.  History is full of narcissistic arseholes who produced great stuff.  Thomas Edison, Steve Jobs, Enzo Ferrari, etc.
 
2020-11-25 1:00:32 PM  

Driedsponge: NikolaiFarkoff: Apparently in a handful of cases, owners experienced accidental separation of where their mouths attach to Elon's dick. Very rare.

You don't have to suck Elon to appreciate a Tesla.  History is full of narcissistic arseholes who produced great stuff.  Thomas Edison, Steve Jobs, Enzo Ferrari, etc.


You can also own one and appreciate the stupid choices like not having a way to turn on your wipers that doesn't involve touching the screen.

Same for your lights.
 
2020-11-25 1:04:02 PM  

Gubbo: You can also own one and appreciate the stupid choices like not having a way to turn on your wipers that doesn't involve touching the screen.

Same for your lights.


I love that in society as a whole, touchscreens have evolved from a "necessary compromise" into a "superior product."

Touchscreens are inferior to physical/tactile buttons and dials in almost every possible sense except for the flexibility they offer -- whether it's a phone or a car.

Just ask yourself why we're not all using touchscreen QWERTY keyboards. It would be a little ridiculous because the current versions work great (and slightly ironically, hardcore users prefer mechanical keys)
 
2020-11-25 1:08:11 PM  

Gubbo: Driedsponge: NikolaiFarkoff: Apparently in a handful of cases, owners experienced accidental separation of where their mouths attach to Elon's dick. Very rare.

You don't have to suck Elon to appreciate a Tesla.  History is full of narcissistic arseholes who produced great stuff.  Thomas Edison, Steve Jobs, Enzo Ferrari, etc.

You can also own one and appreciate the stupid choices like not having a way to turn on your wipers that doesn't involve touching the screen.

Same for your lights.


How much fun could be had if any of the states where citizens can put laws on the ballot made mechanical triggers mandatory for all essential vehicle operations (blinkers, wipers, environmental controls, etc) and refused to grandfather in a farking thing
 
2020-11-25 1:11:46 PM  

NikolaiFarkoff: Gubbo: You can also own one and appreciate the stupid choices like not having a way to turn on your wipers that doesn't involve touching the screen.

Same for your lights.

I love that in society as a whole, touchscreens have evolved from a "necessary compromise" into a "superior product."

Touchscreens are inferior to physical/tactile buttons and dials in almost every possible sense except for the flexibility they offer -- whether it's a phone or a car.

Just ask yourself why we're not all using touchscreen QWERTY keyboards. It would be a little ridiculous because the current versions work great (and slightly ironically, hardcore users prefer mechanical keys)


There are engineering reasons to replace buttons with a touchscreen.  For one, weight savings.  If you have to put in a console anyway, then cutting out the manufacturing costs and weight for the buttons/wiring harness cuts out a few dollars and a few lbs (copper adds up quick).

There's also an I/O issue to deal with, that most major car manufacturers have to come up with solutions around.  Computers only have so much I/O points, and adding more costs more.  It's why on some cars you have to do things like "turn the key to the center position, pump the breaks three times, turn it to the starter position" to reset certain functions.  It was easier to code this into the computer than trying to add another I/O module to the car.  Putting most of the functions on the touchscreen solves this issue.

That being said, putting the trunk release, lights, and windshield wipers on the touchscreen is a pretty lousy design decision and should have been tossed in the farking trash the minute it was suggested.
 
2020-11-25 1:12:34 PM  

lifeslammer: Gubbo: Driedsponge: NikolaiFarkoff: Apparently in a handful of cases, owners experienced accidental separation of where their mouths attach to Elon's dick. Very rare.

You don't have to suck Elon to appreciate a Tesla.  History is full of narcissistic arseholes who produced great stuff.  Thomas Edison, Steve Jobs, Enzo Ferrari, etc.

You can also own one and appreciate the stupid choices like not having a way to turn on your wipers that doesn't involve touching the screen.

Same for your lights.

How much fun could be had if any of the states where citizens can put laws on the ballot made mechanical triggers mandatory for all essential vehicle operations (blinkers, wipers, environmental controls, etc) and refused to grandfather in a farking thing


Grandfather clauses would never be not-a-thing, but I would definitely vote for that.
 
2020-11-25 1:21:34 PM  

Driedsponge: N
There are engineering reasons to replace buttons with a touchscreen.  For one, weight savings.  If you have to put in a console anyway, then cutting out the manufacturing costs and weight for the buttons/wiring harness cuts out a few dollars and a few lbs (copper adds up quick).


Yep, from the company's POV it's also a coup because you can save a small fortune by simplifying the layout. Bonus if you can convince you users that it's a feature, not a flaw :)

I generally agree with everything you wrote above about I/O. I start to get annoyed with buttons, too -- have you looked at a modern steering wheel lately. Just a f*cking mess of buttons.

OTOH -- I also recently learned the hard way that Audi puts their cruise control on a separate, dedicated stalk below the turn signal. For me that's exactly where my knee goes if I need a brief moment of hands-free, like opening a drink on the highway. Pressing the stalk upward is the cruise control's "accelerate" function. Unintended acceleration is never fun, especially in an Audi.
 
2020-11-25 2:47:28 PM  
Is this the green sticky tape that was used to hold up some sort of vital radiator?
 
2020-11-25 4:11:30 PM  
Talk about missing the scary part.

Am I the only one here who understands what upper control arm/steering knuckle separation causes?
 
2020-11-25 6:35:39 PM  

Driedsponge: NikolaiFarkoff: Apparently in a handful of cases, owners experienced accidental separation of where their mouths attach to Elon's dick. Very rare.

You don't have to suck Elon to appreciate a Tesla.  History is full of narcissistic arseholes who produced great stuff.  Thomas Edison, Steve Jobs, Enzo Ferrari, etc.


Prehistory too. You forgot caveman Zog, who invented fire. And Ooga, inventor of the fart joke. And their nephew Zooga, who was the first to light a fart on fire.
 
2020-11-25 9:24:24 PM  

scanman61: Talk about missing the scary part.

Am I the only one here who understands what upper control arm/steering knuckle separation causes?


Dramatic change in front end alignment.

Right before the fatal crash.
 
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