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(NBC Washington)   How the founder of a company that makes vegan jerky from mushrooms went from having the negative bank account balance he deserves to receiving a 6-figure investment from some dumbass   (nbcwashington.com) divider line
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2020-11-25 12:43:05 PM  
That 'dumbass' is one of the most intelligent investors in the US.  Not saying he didn't make a mistake - smart people go out of their way to take risks which means they have huge successes and huge failures.

But Mark Cuban has far more successes than failures and those success are huge.
 
2020-11-25 12:50:25 PM  
Yeah, what's with the automatic instant butthurt whenever someone comes up with a good business idea you couldn't have come up with, subby?

Vegans exist.  They need to eat, and their choices are limited.  You come up with something that tastes good and is vegan... you might make money.

/Also, shiatake mushrooms are awesome
 
2020-11-25 12:56:13 PM  
That sounds really tasty.

Whatever Subby, enjoy your carcinogenic meats.
 
2020-11-25 12:57:49 PM  
Honestly, "vegan jerky" could work, but I wouldn't think to use mushrooms.  IMO they tend to get a special kind of funk when overcooked/dehydrated.  And yes, generic mushrooms, not what you're thinking about.

Whatever happened to fruit leather? Tough, jerky texture and vegan if you do it right.
 
2020-11-25 1:12:24 PM  
Here's the real cool thing about mushroom jerky, subby.

You don't have to eat it.

I'm not really sold on the idea, myself, but if I'm at gas station on a road trip, I might buy a pack for experimenting, along with a couple packs of dead critter jerky in case I don't like the fungus.  I might like it.  I might not.  I won't know until I try it.
 
2020-11-25 1:16:48 PM  

knobmaker: Yeah, what's with the automatic instant butthurt whenever someone comes up with a good business idea you couldn't have come up with, subby?

Vegans exist.  They need to eat, and their choices are limited.  You come up with something that tastes good and is vegan... you might make money.

/Also, shiatake mushrooms are awesome


It presumably is a questionable business idea if it took that long and a single investor was able to make the difference.  Also a fool and his money will be inevitably be re-parted (although Mark Cuban may well make a profit).
 
2020-11-25 1:26:15 PM  

knobmaker: Yeah, what's with the automatic instant butthurt whenever someone comes up with a good business idea you couldn't have come up with, subby?

Vegans exist.  They need to eat, and their choices are limited.  You come up with something that tastes good and is vegan... you might make money.

/Also, shiatake mushrooms are awesome


Pretty much how I feel. If you don't like something, great, don't eat/watch/listen.

But there's a market for it so good on the guy who's leading the way and getting paid for it.
 
2020-11-25 1:26:28 PM  
Ove never had Pan's, but Plumpy's os awesome.

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2020-11-25 1:30:13 PM  
Sugar, garlic powder, and MSG on cardboard would taste as good as most commercial jerky anyways, so how bad could mushrooms be?
 
2020-11-25 1:43:56 PM  

freakdiablo: Honestly, "vegan jerky" could work, but I wouldn't think to use mushrooms.  IMO they tend to get a special kind of funk when overcooked/dehydrated.  And yes, generic mushrooms, not what you're thinking about.

Whatever happened to fruit leather? Tough, jerky texture and vegan if you do it right.


Yeah, that might work as a smoked plantain and tomato jerky sounds promising, but most vegans I know aren't looking for meat taste and texture substitutes. I'm thinking vegetarian again after holidays personally, so something like that would appeal to me (cheese, milk, egg eating vegetarian diet helped me a lot a couple years ago, only really missed roast pork banh mi).
 
2020-11-25 2:01:44 PM  
If it's made from these:
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...I'm in.
 
2020-11-25 2:04:24 PM  
Fungi taste awesome (see: lobster mushroom), and cultured ones can produce a lot of food in a given timeframe, too (see: lion's mane below)
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/flora is good, too
//also fauna
///human garbage disposal
 
2020-11-25 2:04:29 PM  
I'm getting fairly adventurous in my old age, so I'd definitely try it (even though I think dried mushrooms smell awful). Maybe just don't call it jerky.

Its like Tofu. I like tofu, really like it. If I don't get my miso soup before a sushi dinner, I get cranky. But if you molded it into some kind of chicken piece abomination, I wouldn't want it.

These ingredients stand up on their own, just don't try and trick me into thinking I'm eating something that I'm not.

I'll eat a garden burger, because I know its just veggies and bean paste, but I wouldn't try that impossible meat if you paid me. That' s a farking abomination.
 
2020-11-25 2:16:08 PM  
I've had some surprisingly tasty vegan jerky...Louisville Vegan Jerky has some really good offerings, with the added bonus that it really looks like little bits of dried-out meat.  I've never tried a mushroom jerky though...sounds interesting.
 
2020-11-25 2:25:00 PM  
Why so butt hurt subby? Maybe you could go roll coll or piss in your own face to stick it to him?.?.


I've actually been wanting to try these, the problem is they are always sold out.

PSA: If you sign up for availability notifications on there website, buy it the second you get the notification because they will be sold out by the end of the day.
 
2020-11-25 3:10:45 PM  
Dried veggies do taste good, but I hesitate to call them jerky.

/ I'd give it a shot
 
2020-11-25 3:21:53 PM  

knobmaker: Yeah, what's with the automatic instant butthurt whenever someone comes up with a good business idea you couldn't have come up with, subby?

Vegans exist.  They need to eat, and their choices are limited.  You come up with something that tastes good and is vegan... you might make money.

/Also, shiatake mushrooms are awesome


And even then, I've tasted some very tasty vegan food.
 
2020-11-25 4:00:24 PM  
Mark Cuban is no fool.
 
2020-11-25 4:21:28 PM  

tarkin1: That 'dumbass' is one of the most intelligent investors in the US.  Not saying he didn't make a mistake - smart people go out of their way to take risks which means they have huge successes and huge failures.

But Mark Cuban has far more successes than failures and those success are huge.


6 figures to him is like if you or I bought a lotto ticket at the gas station.

/He can afford to take some risk, I guess is what I'm saying.
//Also investing in companies has much better odds.
 
2020-11-25 4:50:07 PM  

INTERTRON: Fungi taste awesome (see: lobster mushroom), and cultured ones can produce a lot of food in a given timeframe, too (see: lion's mane below)
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/flora is good, too
//also fauna
///human garbage disposal


I do quite a bit of mushroom foraging, but I've never been able to develop a taste for lobster mushrooms. You likely already know this, but for others who don't: lobster mushrooms are actually the result of a parasitic fungus (Hyopmyces lactifluorum) infecting another mushroom (usually the short-stemmed russula (Russula brevipes)). On their own, the russulas taste pretty bad, and I always taste them when I try a lobster.

The big three out where I am are morels and porcini in the spring, with chanterelles in the fall. Lots of others around to find (hedgehogs, lion's mane, shaggy mane, chicken of the woods, oyster, and more) but not in the same numbers as the big three. This was the third solid year in a row for chanterelles, but it was really bad for porcini for some reason. Too bad - those are my favorites.
 
2020-11-25 6:17:10 PM  
I watched that episode. It's not a bad idea.  Perhaps the weak part about it, as was pointed out, is that there is nothing really proprietary about this that would prevent competition. If this is more than a niche market he could be blown out of the water by one of the large food conglomerates, unless they offer to buy his brand instead.
 
2020-11-25 8:57:08 PM  

FrancoFile: Sugar, garlic powder, and MSG on cardboard would taste as good as most commercial jerky anyways, so how bad could mushrooms be?


You forgot the liquid smoke.
 
2020-11-25 8:58:38 PM  

Magnanimous_J: I'm getting fairly adventurous in my old age, so I'd definitely try it (even though I think dried mushrooms smell awful). Maybe just don't call it jerky.

Its like Tofu. I like tofu, really like it. If I don't get my miso soup before a sushi dinner, I get cranky. But if you molded it into some kind of chicken piece abomination, I wouldn't want it.

These ingredients stand up on their own, just don't try and trick me into thinking I'm eating something that I'm not.

I'll eat a garden burger, because I know its just veggies and bean paste, but I wouldn't try that impossible meat if you paid me. That' s a farking abomination.


You are absolutely doing it wrong.  Why is a garden burger OK but Impossible isn't?  Garden burgers taste like ass.
 
2020-11-25 9:47:13 PM  
I like beef jerky but in my 40's now I really can not handle all that salt.   I would try mushroom jerky if it were affordable.
 
2020-11-25 10:04:11 PM  

Numbat: The big three out where I am are morels and porcini in the spring, with chanterelles in the fall. Lots of others around to find (hedgehogs, lion's mane, shaggy mane, chicken of the woods, oyster, and more) but not in the same numbers as the big three. This was the third solid year in a row for chanterelles, but it was really bad for porcini for some reason. Too bad - those are my favorites.


Up here in the North Country, we find all sorts of good stuff.  Lion's mane and beartooth are favorites, also chicken of the woods, maitake, puffballs, dryad saddles.  This fall we had a bumper crop of elm oysters. This summer we found a bunch of sweet tooth mushrooms.  It's a nice hobby, gets us out in the woods, lends variety to our cuisine.  I recommend it, but I would caution new mushroom hunters to avoid any mushrooms that have poisonous look-alikes.
 
2020-11-25 10:11:07 PM  
Yeah, but can it give me realistic jerky farts?
 
2020-11-25 10:20:01 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Yeah, but can it give me realistic jerky farts?


I tried the salmon jerky because I thought it might be good, my gf said "if it was good, you would have heard of it." Well of course I didn't believe her, but she was right.
 
2020-11-25 10:26:34 PM  
I've tried some mushroom jerky. It's not bad, just an odd texture and other than being dried doesn't taste much like beef jerky. Don't think I've ever tried a mushroom I didn't like though.
 
2020-11-25 10:28:34 PM  

yet_another_wumpus: It presumably is a questionable business idea if it took that long and a single investor was able to make the difference.


I assume you have never been an entrepreneur.
 
2020-11-26 3:37:50 AM  

cousin-merle: FrancoFile: Sugar, garlic powder, and MSG on cardboard would taste as good as most commercial jerky anyways, so how bad could mushrooms be?

You forgot the liquid smoke.


My first ever homemade beef jerky was as a food pairing for a whisky tasting I was hosting. Got this recipe(*) from a FARK thread but couldn't readily find liquid smoke in Belgium. So I replaced it with Talisker 10 as that seemed rather fitting. It was an absolute hit with the participants and I've made it repeatedly with different smoky single malts. And then I finally got a hold of some Hickory Liquid Smoke and used that instead. I actually liked the batches with whisky better.

(*) Being European, I left out the sugar. It's sweet enough with just the molasses.

Pro tip: There's quite some money in that marinade. Cook the remainder and keep it in a jar. Awesome wok sauce!
 
2020-11-26 9:45:00 PM  

knobmaker: Yeah, what's with the automatic instant butthurt whenever someone comes up with a good business idea you couldn't have come up with, subby?

Vegans exist.  They need to eat, and their choices are limited.  You come up with something that tastes good and is vegan... you might make money.

/Also, shiatake mushrooms are awesome


Subby was making a play on the word "jerky"

/Oh, yeah? Well, the Jerk Store called, and they're running out of YOU...
 
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