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(NPR)   Expanded access led to record voter engagement. We discovered higher turnout does not automatically favor one party as feared and hoped, and voters responded positively to having more options. Will it continue?   (npr.org) divider line
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2020-11-25 5:05:37 PM  
Imagine how many would have voted if Republicans weren't constantly suppressing the vote.
 
2020-11-25 6:57:36 PM  
The fight continues

Build ground game or lose in two years
 
2020-11-25 8:43:49 PM  
Headline.  Please no.
 
2020-11-25 8:45:03 PM  
I can dream that we'd have a universal vote by mail option someday, not this fragmented horseshiat.
 
2020-11-25 8:45:29 PM  

greensunshine: Headline.  Please no.


Not the Fark headline.

/welcome to fark
 
2020-11-25 8:49:23 PM  

phedex: I can dream that we'd have a universal vote by mail option someday, not this fragmented horseshiat.


The US will never have universal anything voting.

Everyone has to protect their own little kingdom.

Best we can hope for is an expanded VRA estabishing some baselines for Federal elections.
 
2020-11-25 8:50:51 PM  

AlgaeRancher: The fight continues

Build ground game or lose in two years


Stacy Abrams - Special Commission on Registration and Voting Reform.
 
2020-11-25 8:51:13 PM  
Nationwide mail-in voting should have already been a thing.  Now in 2020 the reaction is "OMG what is this sorcery?!".
 
2020-11-25 8:53:29 PM  
It's pretty obvious that there will be a complete blue state/red state split on mail-in voting from now on. I expect all Democratic-controlled states to allow mail-in voting permanently. Republicans will oppose it forever.
 
2020-11-25 8:53:39 PM  
The Republicans never seem to catch on until it's too late that they eat their own people with their ideas.

/ Cannibals with extra mayo.
 
2020-11-25 8:53:41 PM  
Haha Jennifer Morrell sounds like a mushroom species.
 
2020-11-25 8:54:25 PM  

natazha: AlgaeRancher: The fight continues

Build ground game or lose in two years

Stacy Abrams - Special Commission on Registration and Voting Reform.


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2020-11-25 8:54:25 PM  

phedex: I can dream that we'd have a universal vote by mail option someday, not this fragmented horseshiat.


And sensible,orderly, easy to manage vote counting procedures.
 
2020-11-25 9:05:07 PM  
Will the country? Depends: does the pandemic rage on for another 2-4 years?

Will my state? Yes! Because Washington is awesome like that.
 
2020-11-25 9:05:49 PM  
To the Fark headline... "No", it will not continue.

/Because no one cares until the world is at stake one way or the other.
//More voting access only matters if people care to use it.
///This is cyclical, and the information will only make less sense as time goes by unless people take the macro environment causing the rise in voting into account.
/V This year is going to make less sense as the next years play out.
 
2020-11-25 9:09:14 PM  

Corn_Fed: It's pretty obvious that there will be a complete blue state/red state split on mail-in voting from now on. I expect all Democratic-controlled states to allow mail-in voting permanently. Republicans will oppose it
forever.


I definitely forsee more states going pure mail-in.  California was the only state (I think) for the longest time that did it.  Now I think Washington, Oregon, Colorado, and California do it.  I full suspect that to increase at least 6 states by the midterms and 8-10 by next presidential election.

However, there's very few states that are democrat controlled.   Of the states that went to Biden, at least 6 of them have republican legislatures.  And with the extreme gerrymandering, that's not going to change any time soon.
 
2020-11-25 9:22:48 PM  
Lol imagine thinking Republicans are open to letting more people vote.
 
2020-11-25 9:25:53 PM  
GOP made inroads and gains in 2020 with Hispanic voters via being anti-abortion and anti-LGBT rights.

So that depressing but not entirely unpredictable.

That said, the larger trend of demographic changes favoring Dems is less pronounced but still viable.
 
2020-11-25 9:33:06 PM  

quatchi: GOP made inroads and gains in 2020 with Hispanic voters via being anti-abortion and anti-LGBT rights.

So that depressing but not entirely unpredictable.

That said, the larger trend of demographic changes favoring Dems is less pronounced but still viable.


Isn't there enough inherent dangers in tailoring your political aprties to demographics like race? It seems really weird to say, "Hispanic voters are anti-abortion and anti-LGBTQ" as though race is what causes someone to vote a certain way. it essentializes race. As if there is some kind of immutable fact that makes somebody vote, rather than ideas.
 
2020-11-25 9:43:05 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: quatchi: GOP made inroads and gains in 2020 with Hispanic voters via being anti-abortion and anti-LGBT rights.

So that depressing but not entirely unpredictable.

That said, the larger trend of demographic changes favoring Dems is less pronounced but still viable.

Isn't there enough inherent dangers in tailoring your political aprties to demographics like race? It seems really weird to say, "Hispanic voters are anti-abortion and anti-LGBTQ" as though race is what causes someone to vote a certain way. it essentializes race. As if there is some kind of immutable fact that makes somebody vote, rather than ideas.


This
 
2020-11-25 9:45:27 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: quatchi: GOP made inroads and gains in 2020 with Hispanic voters via being anti-abortion and anti-LGBT rights.

So that depressing but not entirely unpredictable.

That said, the larger trend of demographic changes favoring Dems is less pronounced but still viable.

Isn't there enough inherent dangers in tailoring your political aprties to demographics like race? It seems really weird to say, "Hispanic voters are anti-abortion and anti-LGBTQ" as though race is what causes someone to vote a certain way. it essentializes race. As if there is some kind of immutable fact that makes somebody vote, rather than ideas.


Recognizing trends in a demographic doesn't mean you're saying them being that demographic is why that trend exists in it.
 
2020-11-25 10:11:55 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: quatchi: GOP made inroads and gains in 2020 with Hispanic voters via being anti-abortion and anti-LGBT rights.

So that depressing but not entirely unpredictable.

That said, the larger trend of demographic changes favoring Dems is less pronounced but still viable.

Isn't there enough inherent dangers in tailoring your political aprties to demographics like race? It seems really weird to say, "Hispanic voters are anti-abortion and anti-LGBTQ" as though race is what causes someone to vote a certain way. it essentializes race. As if there is some kind of immutable fact that makes somebody vote, rather than ideas.


The idea is equality.

The Dems dont tailor their party for race.

The GOP do.

GOP are the party of white Christian males.

The Hispanic one issue voter thing favoring the GOP has more to do with the high number of Catholics within that group not race.

The GOP have tried to work this wedge among certain black church groups for years with relatively little but not no success.

But back to my larger point, identity politics.

Dems work towards a country that provides full equality under the law to everyone including the traditionally marginalized.

GOP work against that in favor of a country that props up whites, males and Christians (especially the rich ones) at everyone else's expense.

So who is the real identity politics party?
 
2020-11-25 10:12:39 PM  

Kazan: Bennie Crabtree: quatchi: GOP made inroads and gains in 2020 with Hispanic voters via being anti-abortion and anti-LGBT rights.

So that depressing but not entirely unpredictable.

That said, the larger trend of demographic changes favoring Dems is less pronounced but still viable.

Isn't there enough inherent dangers in tailoring your political aprties to demographics like race? It seems really weird to say, "Hispanic voters are anti-abortion and anti-LGBTQ" as though race is what causes someone to vote a certain way. it essentializes race. As if there is some kind of immutable fact that makes somebody vote, rather than ideas.

Recognizing trends in a demographic doesn't mean you're saying them being that demographic is why that trend exists in it.


I'm pretty sure that by the end of the decade, "Hispanic" won't be any more of a demographic bloc than "Italian" or "Irish" is now.
 
2020-11-25 10:31:33 PM  

Private_Citizen: Imagine how many would have voted if Republicans weren't constantly suppressing the vote.


Or if Fox News and Sinclair were annihilated.
 
2020-11-25 10:32:57 PM  

pdieten: Kazan: Bennie Crabtree: quatchi: GOP made inroads and gains in 2020 with Hispanic voters via being anti-abortion and anti-LGBT rights.

So that depressing but not entirely unpredictable.

That said, the larger trend of demographic changes favoring Dems is less pronounced but still viable.

Isn't there enough inherent dangers in tailoring your political aprties to demographics like race? It seems really weird to say, "Hispanic voters are anti-abortion and anti-LGBTQ" as though race is what causes someone to vote a certain way. it essentializes race. As if there is some kind of immutable fact that makes somebody vote, rather than ideas.

Recognizing trends in a demographic doesn't mean you're saying them being that demographic is why that trend exists in it.

I'm pretty sure that by the end of the decade, "Hispanic" won't be any more of a demographic bloc than "Italian" or "Irish" is now.


well you're not an expert on the subject and the experts don't agree with you
 
2020-11-25 10:41:28 PM  

Kazan: pdieten: Kazan: Bennie Crabtree: quatchi: GOP made inroads and gains in 2020 with Hispanic voters via being anti-abortion and anti-LGBT rights.

So that depressing but not entirely unpredictable.

That said, the larger trend of demographic changes favoring Dems is less pronounced but still viable.

Isn't there enough inherent dangers in tailoring your political aprties to demographics like race? It seems really weird to say, "Hispanic voters are anti-abortion and anti-LGBTQ" as though race is what causes someone to vote a certain way. it essentializes race. As if there is some kind of immutable fact that makes somebody vote, rather than ideas.

Recognizing trends in a demographic doesn't mean you're saying them being that demographic is why that trend exists in it.

I'm pretty sure that by the end of the decade, "Hispanic" won't be any more of a demographic bloc than "Italian" or "Irish" is now.

well you're not an expert on the subject and the experts don't agree with you


Which experts? The ones who were shocked that Trump did quite well among Hispanics?
 
2020-11-25 10:54:01 PM  
The trends are in the Dems benefit.
With demographics
The relation from city to rural  (remote work)
Education and awareness
And voting, especially remote voting.
Global dynamics, etc...
Age/social trends

By mail
Or even electronic (it IS coming...)

The GOP is fighting a losing battle of attrition.

Same reason the North won the war...too many things going for them.
 
2020-11-25 10:57:06 PM  

Corn_Fed: Which experts? The ones who were shocked that Trump did quite well among Hispanics?


No.  take a hike with the straw man
 
2020-11-25 11:16:16 PM  

Corn_Fed: It's pretty obvious that there will be a complete blue state/red state split on mail-in voting from now on. I expect all Democratic-controlled states to allow mail-in voting permanently. Republicans will oppose it forever.


Arizona's had mail-in voting for years and this is the first time they turned blue since Bubba was in office.
 
2020-11-25 11:29:35 PM  
Honestly, I think DumbDumb McFarkstick had more to do with the turnout, both from Democrats and centrists voting against him and idiots voting "slugs for salt!"
 
2020-11-25 11:30:47 PM  

pdieten: pretty sure that by the end of the decade, "Hispanic" won't be any more of a demographic bloc than "Italian" or "Irish" is now.


Pert' sure it's gonna be a good deal longer than that, but hopeful of being wrong.
 
2020-11-25 11:34:07 PM  
"We want to take away any concern that you could have about fraud,"....

I have grave concerns about the fraud the GOP commits on a daily basis. Can you please get rid of them for me?
 
2020-11-25 11:48:36 PM  

Corn_Fed: It's pretty obvious that there will be a complete blue state/red state split on mail-in voting from now on. I expect all Democratic-controlled states to allow mail-in voting permanently. Republicans will oppose it forever.


Hopefully, it might be the quickest way to end the party.
 
2020-11-26 12:28:20 AM  
...call it vote machine code tampering, call it poor education, call it racism, call it rural vs urban, call it whatever.  I have no idea why so many people voted for Trump.  My father who was a Democrat in the past voted for Trump and his reasoning was the media was always "picking on him" and I had a lot of respect for him because I pointed to him as where I got my intelligence.  I am so let down.  Maybe a lot of people are sick of politics and want to watch it burn down and voted for Trump for that reason.  I get it in a sense, I mean, most times I do believe it's one party of good cop and bad cop.  But still, even if that is true, who the fark says "Fark it! imma vote for the bad cop!" ?  If I didn't have a daughter, my degree is well sought after in many European and other English speaking countries, I'd be out of here.  Sometimes I even think maybe I should leave now and while I might lose time with her, she'll at least have somewhere to go when this country does finally set on fire.  I'd miss her too much though I'm sure, and maybe that's my character flaw, I'm being selfish when the right thing should be to leave this country to protect her and any grandchildrens' future.
 
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