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(Mirror.co.uk)   School tells girls not to wear tight-fitting gym clothes so they don't "distract" teachers. Still no word on how to prevent teachers from being "distracted" by students wearing tight-fitting clothes   (mirror.co.uk) divider line
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2020-11-25 8:34:39 AM  
63 votes:
Rules to prevent rape.

#1. DON'T RAPE PEOPLE!!!!!
 
2020-11-25 8:47:12 AM  
34 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Gym is a perversion, and needs to be banned by Congress.

School sports too.


Last person picked like typing detected.


Gym is great. I went to a rich suburb school though. We had hours allotted. Cross country skiing through the huge wooded school grounds. Massive tennis courts. Huge pool. It was awesome. We also had a girl get raped in the lockers by someone who went in a door they shouldn't have been able to. Someone also started a fire in another locker room. The world is full of bad people, and if we just eliminate everything just to stop the few bad apples then WTF are we even doing going to a school?
 
2020-11-25 9:25:24 AM  
32 votes:
Geez, don't let those teachers near a college volleyball game

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2020-11-25 9:18:35 AM  
31 votes:
Clara Fernandez Spanish Pole Vaulter
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La Voltera del la pole'.  Este un uniforma de eschoola.
 
2020-11-25 9:11:04 AM  
30 votes:
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2020-11-25 8:56:44 AM  
30 votes:
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2020-11-25 9:08:03 AM  
28 votes:
Girls, it's your right to dress anyway you like, you just can't control who's attention you attract.

Should the men and boys leer?  Probably not, but they do have the right to. They don't have the right to anything past that.  Not your attention, not your smile, or even not being glared at.
 
2020-11-25 8:58:08 AM  
28 votes:
What that notice sounds like to the students: The male teachers are very horny for young girls, please give their boners a break, and dress like nuns for a bit. Thanks, the staff
 
2020-11-25 8:28:27 AM  
28 votes:
Blind the ones who are distracted by the children in tight clothes.
 
2020-11-25 9:37:03 AM  
22 votes:
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2020-11-25 8:51:42 AM  
22 votes:
TFA is useless without pics.
 
2020-11-25 9:25:48 AM  
21 votes:
Taking a cynical view here:

The source article says some girls were pulled out of class and told not to wear revealing clothes to school, in accordance with school uniform rules (ubiquitous in the UK and Ireland).

No boys were given the same talk, presumably because revealing clothes are not common among male students because revealing clothes are not part of the cultural landscape and the male uniform doesn't really allow it anyway.

The evidence (so far, I'll happily concede this if more comes out) is that one or more pissed off girls or parents claim they were told their clothes were distracting to male teachers.

I'm happy to change my mind if more comes out, but for now this looks like a case of the annual "testing of limits" around the beginning of the school year and some students/parents going scorched earth with possibly made up claimsupon finding the limit.
 
2020-11-25 8:55:55 AM  
20 votes:
Hire less pervy teachers.
 
2020-11-25 9:12:15 AM  
19 votes:

Lambskincoat: What that notice sounds like to the students: The male teachers are very horny for young girls, please give their boners a break, and dress like nuns for a bit. Thanks, the staff


Don't know about these days, but several girls in my class back in junior high would compete to see who could give more teachers an uncomfortable and obvious boner.
 
2020-11-25 9:21:27 AM  
18 votes:

Stantz: Maybe I'm old (47, so maybe) but I never remember any of the girls I went to school with looking particularly distracting during gym class. But this WAS mid-late 80's, so the hair was probably the bigger distraction


A while back, I checked out some high school photos as part of similar discussion.  it's really true, girls DID NOT look like this 20 years ago.
 
2020-11-25 9:17:54 AM  
17 votes:
Obligatory tight fitting gym class:

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2020-11-25 8:41:18 AM  
17 votes:
Gym is a perversion, and needs to be banned by Congress.

School sports too.
 
2020-11-25 10:09:41 AM  
16 votes:
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2020-11-25 10:05:27 AM  
16 votes:

rewind2846: Why are teachers staring at 12-18 year old girls?
Let's try dealing with that first. Teaching people not to eye-rape is better than teaching people how to avoid being eye-raped.


Why? A hundred million years of evolution. Females of peak fertility (who would have been married off a hundred years ago) are going to get noticed biologically. Now the staff should be trained to maintain the highest level of professionalism, but they aren't robots.
 
2020-11-25 9:32:51 AM  
16 votes:

Stantz: Livinglush: it's really true, girls DID NOT look like this 20 years ago.

Simple explanation - no IG, SC, TT or social media in general. Pop stars were bubbly and innocent, and no-one made themselves household names by publicly dressing like a hooker or wearing bikinis totalling 2 inches square of material. Jordyn, i'm looking at you.


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2020-11-25 9:20:12 AM  
16 votes:
Why are teachers staring at 12-18 year old girls?
Let's try dealing with that first. Teaching people not to eye-rape is better than teaching people how to avoid being eye-raped.
 
2020-11-25 9:50:34 AM  
15 votes:

Stantz: Maybe I'm old (47, so maybe) but I never remember any of the girls I went to school with looking particularly distracting during gym class. But this WAS mid-late 80's, so the hair was probably the bigger distraction


I'm old, old enough that mid-thirties housewives wearing yoga pants to the grocery store make me crash my trolley

I'm not staring, I don't wish to interfere with anyone's person, but I do sometimes wish one could say well done, or thank you
 
2020-11-25 9:34:02 AM  
14 votes:

winedrinkingman: Has the school considered simply not hiring pedophiles?  Because it's students are between 1st to 6th grade.  If you are distracted by your sexual arousal by what those girls are wearing, you are a pedophile and should not be working anywhere near children.


They mention 12 to 18 year olds, so I'm guessing the terminology is different than the US.

Also they mention, "as it is distracting to the female and male staff of the school."

This isn't about old men being pervs, it's about old women being jealous.
 
2020-11-25 9:23:25 AM  
14 votes:
I'm 44, I've made it easy on myself by not even acknowledging anyone under 30 as a functional human being or worthy of an opinion, much less anything else.  Tadpole humans can wear whatever they want, I don't really care, do you?
 
2020-11-25 10:12:03 AM  
13 votes:
My daughter is a curvy girl. She would constantly get in trouble for wearing the exact same outfit as her non-curvy friends. And not like "oh on them it's loose but on her it's tight" situations. We kept getting called into the office and we would mumble something and we'd go on about our day. Until one of the teachers, who really liked my daughter (not that way, pervs!) told us that she was just trying to protect our daughter. "From what?" wife asked archly. "Well, from...the...boys..."

To which my wife stood up and said "then get those boys in here and have them disciplined. Stop blaming our daughter for their bad behavior!" and she walked out. I...uh...sheepishly stood and sidled out after her.

We didn't get any more calls.

/my daughter eats boys for breakfast
//she is bisexual, so she also...
///third slashie wears shoe mirrors
 
2020-11-25 10:11:04 AM  
13 votes:

PaceyWhitter: Here is the thing.  I don't doubt that some girls at the school were wearing inappropriate outfits.  High schoolers love to push boundaries.  But there is a right way and a wrong way to deal with that and this school took the decidedly wrong way.

First you make it a rule that no one can wear skin tight clothes and you do not mention gender.  Sure, they didn't see an issue with what the guys were wearing, but there is no reason to make this rule gender specific, no one wants to see a banana hammock either.

Second, don't mention "distracting the teachers".  That makes your teachers look like a bunch of weirdos perking out on teenage girls.  You can say that skin tight clothing is inappropriate without bringing up anything sexual.

Third, you need to have a discussion with whichever male gym teacher brought this clothing up as distracting about why exactly they are looking at the students that way.  After that you need to monitor them closely.


I was with you up until the last paragraph.  You don't need to "have a discussion" with and "monitor" a male teacher who points out that a student was wearing something inappropriate.  Are only female staff allowed to enforce the dress code?
 
2020-11-25 9:59:45 AM  
13 votes:

rewind2846: orbister: rewind2846: Let's try dealing with that first. Teaching people not to eye-rape is better than teaching people how to avoid being eye-raped.

"Eye-rape"? Did you intend to minimise actual rape?

No. Eye-rape is what was happening here, not physical rape. That's what the complaint was about in the story.


"Eye-rape" is not a thing, so it couldn't have happened.
 
2020-11-25 9:24:23 AM  
12 votes:

namegoeshere: Hire less pervy teachers.


I will at least give them points for honesty.  Usually they blame the HS boys as the ones being distracted whereas here they are straight out admitting it's really the pervy teachers
 
2020-11-25 3:10:16 PM  
11 votes:
I don't know why people keep wanting to pretend that this is so complicated. This Disney Channel isn't a trillion dollar company because nobody wants to fark teenagers.

It is perfectly normal for a heterosexual male to find post-pubescent females sexually attractive. If you found those girls hot when you were 17, why wouldn't you expect a 40 year old to? The age of consent is a standard that society imposed because as a general rule, teenagers don't have the emotional maturity or the life experience to make smart decisions for themselves regarding sexuality. You get a pass when you yourself are underage because kids are dumb and its unfair to apply responsibility to one dumb kid and not the other.

As an adult man, it is perfectly healthy and normal to find young women sexually attractive. Even ones under the artificially imposed cutoff of 18. You just don't farking act on it. You instead protect vulnerable women in that situation.

Having the ability to impose your will on people, and making a conscious decision not to, is the keystone of being a man.
 
2020-11-25 10:52:36 AM  
11 votes:
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2020-11-25 10:20:09 AM  
11 votes:
I'm sorry- did you say something?  I'm a bit distracted.

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2020-11-25 9:15:54 AM  
11 votes:

Lambskincoat: What that notice sounds like to the students: The male teachers are very horny for young girls, please give their boners a break, and dress like nuns for a bit. Thanks, the staff


Pretty sure that's what it sounds like to everyone.
 
2020-11-25 8:47:06 AM  
11 votes:
When I first started working as an engineer way back in 2000, the people who were my age wore polo shirts tucked into jeans.  We were less formal than the guys in their 40s who wore button down shirts and khakis, who I assume were less formal than their seniors who likely wore ties back in the early 80s.  Now, the 20-something men in my office wear shorts and T-shirts, and the women wear yoga pants.  Some of them wear half-shirts.

I feel old.
 
2020-11-25 10:16:24 AM  
10 votes:
I'm a former university instructor. During my time in that role I taught about 10,000 students, about 55% of whom were women. Many of those women wore tight, sometimes revealing clothing. Regardless of how attractive I found any of those women, I was expected to maintain self control. Even in cases where offers of sex were made (which did occasionally happen) I was expected to behave appropriately. If I was to have ever crossed the line, excuses like "she came on to me", or "her cloths were too tight" would never have been accepted as mitigating the situation in any way. And in my case I was dealing with adults.

The same should apply at Carlow. If a male teacher is distracted by a female student's outfit, the male teacher is the problem, not the student or outfit. This is particularly important considering the girls involved are all 18 and under.
 
2020-11-25 9:20:57 AM  
10 votes:

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La Voltera del la pole'.  Este un uniforma de eschoola.


Wow, she has a bouncy stride.
 
2020-11-25 9:02:39 AM  
10 votes:
FTFA: "This is appalling, majority of students are 12-18 years old."

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2020-11-25 1:26:21 PM  
9 votes:
Student of history
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2020-11-25 9:32:59 AM  
9 votes:
Reality check

A line needs to be drawn somewhere-Would those biatching about this be okay with someone wearing just a g-string in the classroom?  What if a guy wants to go full Porky Pig and be bottomless?  That must be okay, right?

And the fact that boys are not being pulled out of class is probably because they aren't wearing clothes so tight you can tell their religion.
 
2020-11-25 9:23:31 AM  
9 votes:

Rapmaster2000: When I first started working as an engineer way back in 2000, the people who were my age wore polo shirts tucked into jeans.  We were less formal than the guys in their 40s who wore button down shirts and khakis, who I assume were less formal than their seniors who likely wore ties back in the early 80s.  Now, the 20-something men in my office wear shorts and T-shirts, and the women wear yoga pants.  Some of them wear half-shirts.

I feel old.


All the moms at my kids school wear yoga pants pretty much 24/7 (pre-Covid). Yes, I'm old. But come on, you're wearing sweatpants on back to school night? This is the way you want to meet your kids teacher for the first time?
 
2020-11-25 11:32:34 AM  
8 votes:
"Sandy Haughney, whose daughter attends the school, wrote on Facebook : "If these so-called male teachers can get distracted by 12 to 18-year-old girls, they should not be teaching."

A 22-year-old male teacher getting distracted by an 18-year-old woman (not girl, she's legally an adult), and that woman could legally pose for Playboy (or could submit an X-rated video to PornHub) while in HS?  GTFO.

Yes, creeping on 12-year-old girls is wrong, but some 12-year-old girls might be able to pass for 18.  Some 12-year-old boys are 6', 195 lbs and have 5-o'clock shadow.

CSB
When I was teaching (age 39), my students were leaving class one day.  I glanced toward one girl (woman, actually, as she was already 18 and had completed Army boot camp as a 17-year-old Reservist).  She was wearing a neon-orange thong with low-rise jeans.  Not obvious when she was standing or sitting, but when leaning over, the waistband of the thong rose well above the waistband of her jeans.  You could NOT miss is, which was probably the point.

Distracted?  Anyone would be, even other girls/women.  It's like a dog noticing a squirrel; they can't help but stare and bark.  We're not going to override millions of years of evolution with some Internet rants.  Creepy?  Only if a distracted adult decides to act on that distraction.
/CSB
 
2020-11-25 10:04:06 AM  
8 votes:
Here is the thing.  I don't doubt that some girls at the school were wearing inappropriate outfits.  High schoolers love to push boundaries.  But there is a right way and a wrong way to deal with that and this school took the decidedly wrong way.

First you make it a rule that no one can wear skin tight clothes and you do not mention gender.  Sure, they didn't see an issue with what the guys were wearing, but there is no reason to make this rule gender specific, no one wants to see a banana hammock either.

Second, don't mention "distracting the teachers".  That makes your teachers look like a bunch of weirdos perking out on teenage girls.  You can say that skin tight clothing is inappropriate without bringing up anything sexual.

Third, you need to have a discussion with whichever male gym teacher brought this clothing up as distracting about why exactly they are looking at the students that way.  After that you need to monitor them closely.
 
2020-11-25 9:53:14 AM  
8 votes:

meanmutton: EvilEgg: Girls, it's your right to dress anyway you like, you just can't control who's attention you attract.

Should the men and boys leer?  Probably not, but they do have the right to. They don't have the right to anything past that.  Not your attention, not your smile, or even not being glared at.

fark that, no. Adult male teachers DO NOT HAVE ANY farkING RIGHT TO LEER AT 12 YEAR OLD GIRLS. That's farking disgusting, offensive and seriously, man, what the fark is wrong with you?


Of course they shouldn't.  But people have the right to do disgusting offensive things.

How do you legislate a leer versus a look?
 
2020-11-25 11:55:23 AM  
7 votes:
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"Good Morning Little School Girl" One hell of a guitar player, worth a listen.
 
2020-11-25 10:47:54 AM  
7 votes:

arrogantbastich: Marcus Aurelius: Gym is a perversion, and needs to be banned by Congress.

School sports too.

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Gym is great. I went to a rich suburb school though. We had hours allotted. Cross country skiing through the huge wooded school grounds. Massive tennis courts. Huge pool. It was awesome. We also had a girl get raped in the lockers by someone who went in a door they shouldn't have been able to. Someone also started a fire in another locker room. The world is full of bad people, and if we just eliminate everything just to stop the few bad apples then WTF are we even doing going to a school?


While I agree with the overall sentiment, back in the day gym class could be a nightmare.  We had one gym teacher who was basically a high school uber jock man-child.  His idea of gym class was to bully and humiliate the boys who were different, or more specifically whip up the current set of jocks to do it for him while he watched and laughed.  There's always a power imbalance between teachers and students that makes it difficult for victims to speak out but with gym teachers, the imbalance is magnified because of the exaggerated physical differences and the implied the threat of violence that is reinforced by physical abuse passed off as just playing a game.
 
2020-11-25 10:35:34 AM  
7 votes:

madgonad: rewind2846: Why are teachers staring at 12-18 year old girls?
Let's try dealing with that first. Teaching people not to eye-rape is better than teaching people how to avoid being eye-raped.

Why? A hundred million years of evolution. Females of peak fertility (who would have been married off a hundred years ago) are going to get noticed biologically. Now the staff should be trained to maintain the highest level of professionalism, but they aren't robots.



"noticing" is a tricky word here.  There is a lot of room in between 'I can mentally acknowledge or notice that someone is attractive and then drop it' and 'oh yeah baby I'd like to do her'.

I filmed weddings for 10 years.  Was in the dressing room with the women getting ready.  Its actually not that much work to stay on the side of the line that isn't creeping.  It was also my experience that the women noticed, too.
 
2020-11-25 9:57:48 AM  
7 votes:

NM Volunteer: namegoeshere: Hire less pervy teachers.

Yep.  I've been in high schools for museum and Kiwanis reasons, and I have thus interacted with high school students.  They look like children.  Even when they change out of their school clothes and go to Walmart in more revealing clothes, they just look like children wearing revealing clothes.  Maybe Hollywood has screwed up people's expectations by Dawson Casting people in their late 20s as high school students.  But it sounds like people need to stop being attracted to children.


Seriously?

High school is a a crazy mix.  There are students who look like kids and there are students-male and female-that absolutely do NOT look like kids.  Hell, there was a friend of mine who had a receding hairline at 18 who was our go-to for buying beer.
 
2020-11-25 9:45:31 AM  
7 votes:
you guys seem to be confusing pedophilia with ephebophilia
 
2020-11-25 9:44:07 AM  
7 votes:
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2020-11-25 9:10:11 AM  
7 votes:
Yeah...I kinda agree.  I coached High school girls Volleyball.
 
2020-11-25 12:08:46 PM  
6 votes:

dothemath: gunther_bumpass: dothemath: [Fark user image 300x600]
FARK ad on this thread.

I wish I made this up.

Yeah.. I've got ads for pants and turntables. Might want to clear your browser history there, Chester.

Good idea, ill get right on it after im done shaving your moms butt hole. I left a wiffle ball bat in there and I cant see the handle.



And you wonder why you get ads featuring underaged kids.
 
2020-11-25 11:57:50 AM  
6 votes:

Tyrosine: The same should apply at Carlow. If a male teacher is distracted by a female student's outfit, the male teacher is the problem, not the student or outfit. This is particularly important considering the girls involved are all 18 and under.


Even when a teacher is not being tempted, the attempt to distract can be awkward and embarrassing. At one time many years ago I used to do some private coaching in maths to ~17 year olds. One of my students appeared in looser and looser tops until eventually she had her nipples clearly on display. I wasn't remotely tempted by her, but it was an uncomfortable situation and I had her reassigned to another tutor.

It is quite possible for pupils/students to sexually harass teachers
 
2020-11-25 11:06:45 AM  
6 votes:

Moosedick Gladys Greengroin: Moose knuckles still OK tho?


What is you a sayin?
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2020-11-25 10:46:42 AM  
6 votes:

Tyrosine: sinko swimo: sad how many people forget that a persons sex drive is a perfectly natural normal thing. many young women are at their prime in their teenage years; their bodies are near perfection and they ooze testosterone. you don't have to be a pervert to notice this.

Pervert? No, but there's a huge difference between noticing something and allowing it to distract you. Self control is a thing.

you just need to have eyes. women are masters of "look at what you can't have"; they enjoy it and they deny it. many school teachers are not all that older than the students they are teaching.

So?

why do you think so many female school teachers wind up being arrested for farking a student or two?

Because making excuses and blaming others for your failings isn't a trait exclusive to males?

be realistic. hot jailbait ass is the best there is. worth going to prison for, i'm sure.

Well, if you won't learn self control perhaps prison is the best place for you. Funny enough while there you'll likely run into other prisoners who also aren't' good at self control. If you're lucky they may take a liking to you and you'll have a first hand opportunity to see the behavior you are justifying from a different perspective. It will be a painful and traumatic lesson, but based on your comment, one that you apparently need so you can fully appreciate how stupid your perspective is.

you dress like a fire fighter, you get treated like a fire fighter.


That is the kind of comment that warrants rolling up a new alt. There's no getting the stench of "hot jailbait ass" off of that account now.
 
2020-11-25 9:39:49 AM  
6 votes:
The age of consent in the UK is 16, so we're definitely treading on a moral -- but probably not legal -- gray area.

In the history of humanity, there is nothing really against 15-18 year olds getting involved in adult relationships, at least not until the laws of the 20th century told us they couldn't. But the bigger, more universal, issue here is the balance of power in the relationship between teacher and student.

/surprised at the sudden prudishness in this thread
//maybe just jelly I got no attention in HS
 
2020-11-25 9:34:54 AM  
6 votes:

big pig peaches: winedrinkingman: Has the school considered simply not hiring pedophiles?  Because it's students are between 1st to 6th grade.  If you are distracted by your sexual arousal by what those girls are wearing, you are a pedophile and should not be working anywhere near children.

They mention 12 to 18 year olds, so I'm guessing the terminology is different than the US.

Also they mention, "as it is distracting to the female and male staff of the school."

This isn't about old men being pervs, it's about old women being jealous.


It's absolutely about both.
 
2020-11-25 9:26:53 AM  
6 votes:
Adding to the obligatory video pile

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2020-11-25 9:15:33 AM  
6 votes:
Maybe I'm old (47, so maybe) but I never remember any of the girls I went to school with looking particularly distracting during gym class. But this WAS mid-late 80's, so the hair was probably the bigger distraction
 
2020-11-25 8:39:40 AM  
6 votes:
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2020-11-25 6:35:12 PM  
5 votes:
This is very simple.

1. It is not in any way weird or creepy to feel sexual attraction for other people who are sexually developed, regardless of what side of the legal age of consent they fall on.  It's perfectly natural for both men and women. There are rules about when it's OK to express that attraction, and when it's OK to have sex with people, but that's immaterial here, because-

2. I don't care what your job is.... teacher, doctor, stock broker, office drone, whatever.... if you can't perform your duties without getting "distracted" because there are attractive people around, you've got major issues and need to grow the fark up, preferably while looking for a new job.  The only reason school dress codes should exist is to keep students from distracting one another.  They're kids, and can't help it.
 
2020-11-25 4:59:04 PM  
5 votes:

flondrix: In any case, that is what engineers call a "solved problem."
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I committed and read the entire comic. WTF is any of that supposed to mean? Is that a comic that says nothing of value or interest? I'm both enraged that something so below mediocre would exist, and curious as to WHY.
 
2020-11-25 11:54:38 AM  
5 votes:

sorceror: IndyJohn: sorceror: IndyJohn: How are the dress codes more strict for females?  Are they allowing boys to wear daisy dukes and expose their midriffs but not girls?  Are they allowing boys to wear skirts above their knees but not girls?

https://www.nea.org/advocating-for-cha​nge/new-from-nea/when-school-dress-cod​es-discriminate

Read the article

Well, I did. Sure, "many" dress codes - note, the article didn't say 'a majority' or anything - don't "specifically target gender". But the article talks about how the codes are also enforced asymmetrically, and several farker's posts on this thread have provided examples.

If you're only going to read a few percent of an article, maybe enough articles will reach a critical threshold or something?

https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/201​8/09/05/do-school-dress-codes-discrima​te-against-girls.html
https://www.aclu.org/blog/womens-right​s/womens-rights-education/5-things-pub​lic-schools-can-and-cant-do-when-it-co​mes
https://scholarship.richmond.edu/cgi/v​iewcontent.cgi?article=2275&context=la​w-faculty-publications
https://www.wgbh.org/news/2017/05/22/l​ocal-news/school-dress-codes-are-tough​er-girls-boys
https://nwlc-ciw49tixgw5lbab.stackpath​dns.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/5.1​web_Final_nwlc_DressCodeReport.pdf
https://lawdigitalcommons.bc.edu/cgi/v​iewcontent.cgi?article=3809&context=bc​lr
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dress-c​ode-problems_n_5420985
https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/arch​ive/2013/02/a-dress-code-enforcers-str​uggle-for-the-soul-of-the-middle-schoo​l-girl/273155/

A mix of academic and popular sources, some even arguing the other way - but even they explicitly acknowledge that they are more concerned about girls than boys.


I also read the article.  That's what I was trying to indicate -- I had read the article, not instructing you to read the article

Although the article talks about dress codes being enforced asymmetrically, it doesn't back it up.

Do girls run afoul of dress codes more often?  Yeah.  I'm not going to argue that.  Do dress code provisions get written specifically in response to things that girls are wearing but not guys?  Absolutely.

But I'm not buying that makes a dress code discriminatory.  It seems that the real problem is that, as a society, we teach girls their value is based on appearance and sexual attractiveness.  That gets enforced lots of ways, including through media and peer interactions, and girls feel pressured to dress certain ways to conform to that norm.

I have a 14 year old daughter and she feels that societal pressure.  Her school (although virtual right now) has a gender neutral uniform (khakis and a polo).  I like to think that she's smart and confident enough in herself that she wouldn't fully buy into that kind of societal pressure, but she's said that she appreciates the uniform because it takes away a lot of that social dynamic.  Call me a prude (I'm not really though), but I think dress codes are generally a good thing.  It's not just about keeping the boys from being "distracted," but also about dialing back the social pressure on girls.
 
2020-11-25 11:41:33 AM  
5 votes:
Sorry farkers I haven't read all your comments but from TFA.

"If these so-called male teachers can get distracted by 12 to 18-year-old girls, they should not be teaching."

If they are not distracted by attractive 17 or 18 year old WOMEN in tight clothing, they might need a medical check.
 
2020-11-25 10:29:39 AM  
5 votes:

sinko swimo: sad how many people forget that a persons sex drive is a perfectly natural normal thing. many young women are at their prime in their teenage years; their bodies are near perfection and they ooze testosterone. you don't have to be a pervert to notice this. you just need to have eyes. women are masters of "look at what you can't have"; they enjoy it and they deny it. many school teachers are not all that older than the students they are teaching. why do you think so many female school teachers wind up being arrested for farking a student or two? be realistic. hot jailbait ass is the best there is. worth going to prison for, i'm sure. you dress like a fire fighter, you get treated like a fire fighter.


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2020-11-25 10:28:05 AM  
5 votes:

EvilEgg: Girls, it's your right to dress anyway you like, you just can't control who's attention you attract.

Should the men and boys leer?  Probably not, but they do have the right to. They don't have the right to anything past that.  Not your attention, not your smile, or even not being glared at.


If a teacher is leering at a 12 year old, then yeah he's got a farking problem and shouldn't be anywhere near kids.
 
2020-11-25 9:58:16 AM  
5 votes:

winedrinkingman: Has the school considered simply not hiring pedophiles?  Because it's students are between 1st to 6th grade.  If you are distracted by your sexual arousal by what those girls are wearing, you are a pedophile and should not be working anywhere near children.


Twelve year olds, yes, certainly, but eighteen year olds are more-or-less adults. Teachers shouldn't get it on with any pupils, but it's unrealistic to expect them not to notice boinkability in the older ones.
 
2020-11-25 9:53:03 AM  
5 votes:

rewind2846: Let's try dealing with that first. Teaching people not to eye-rape is better than teaching people how to avoid being eye-raped.


"Eye-rape"? Did you intend to minimise actual rape?
 
2020-11-25 9:48:16 AM  
5 votes:
Awful lot of Libertarians in this thread...
 
2020-11-25 9:43:44 AM  
5 votes:
"If these so-called male teachers can get distracted by 12 to 18-year-old girls, they should not be teaching..."

Theres a reason why laws exist prohibiting sex with this age group. Its because everybody loves it.
 
2020-11-25 9:41:19 AM  
5 votes:

rewind2846: Why are teachers staring at 12-18 year old girls?
Let's try dealing with that first. Teaching people not to eye-rape is better than teaching people how to avoid being eye-raped.


Yes, but why are these kids wearing "skin-tight" clothing, too? Take teachers out of the mix; just the student's counterparts could be discomfited. Let's stop pretending that sartorial display isn't part of sexuality, and instead consider that as one goes through puberty, it is an education that should be received, but also appropriately taught to the degree of the societal norm, whatever that may be.
 
2020-11-25 9:38:09 AM  
5 votes:

arrogantbastich: Marcus Aurelius: Gym is a perversion, and needs to be banned by Congress.

School sports too.


Last person picked like typing detected.


I LOLed
 
2020-11-25 9:24:19 AM  
5 votes:

Stantz: Maybe I'm old (47, so maybe) but I never remember any of the girls I went to school with looking particularly distracting during gym class. But this WAS mid-late 80's, so the hair was probably the bigger distraction


You would have been blinded by all the neon.
 
2020-11-25 9:20:04 AM  
5 votes:
Based on what they already make them wear, they probably don't want any leggings to get in the way of their old teachers with a mirror or camera on the bottom of their cane to look upskirt:

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2020-11-25 9:15:16 AM  
5 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Gym is a perversion, and needs to be banned by Congress.

School sports too.


Congress has that effect on Ireland?  Try reading the article next time, genius.
 
2020-11-25 3:17:44 PM  
4 votes:

Somacandra: FTFA: "This is appalling, majority of students are 12-18 years old."

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I believe that the word for men who are turned on by 18 year old women is "heterosexual."
 
2020-11-25 11:26:22 AM  
4 votes:
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FARK ad on this thread.

I wish I made this up.
 
2020-11-25 10:39:41 AM  
4 votes:
Man I was cheated out of this back in highschool. They wore sweatpants or baggy shorts. Those tight almost see through leggings women wear as normal everyday pants didn't exist. Also baggy jeans were in. There were like 4 hot girls in my grade anyway.  Maybe 20 in the school tops. Don't grow up in a small town.
 
2020-11-25 10:35:31 AM  
4 votes:

Stantz: Maybe I'm old (47, so maybe) but I never remember any of the girls I went to school with looking particularly distracting during gym class. But this WAS mid-late 80's, so the hair was probably the bigger distraction


You know how I know you're gay?
 
2020-11-25 10:31:40 AM  
4 votes:

NuclearPenguins: sinko swimo: sad how many people forget that a persons sex drive is a perfectly natural normal thing. many young women are at their prime in their teenage years; their bodies are near perfection and they ooze testosterone. you don't have to be a pervert to notice this. you just need to have eyes. women are masters of "look at what you can't have"; they enjoy it and they deny it. many school teachers are not all that older than the students they are teaching. why do you think so many female school teachers wind up being arrested for farking a student or two? be realistic. hot jailbait ass is the best there is. worth going to prison for, i'm sure. you dress like a fire fighter, you get treated like a fire fighter.

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Also, enjoy the farkies you're about to receive for that creeptastic post.
 
2020-11-25 10:26:56 AM  
4 votes:
sad how many people forget that a persons sex drive is a perfectly natural normal thing. many young women are at their prime in their teenage years; their bodies are near perfection and they ooze testosterone. you don't have to be a pervert to notice this. you just need to have eyes. women are masters of "look at what you can't have"; they enjoy it and they deny it. many school teachers are not all that older than the students they are teaching. why do you think so many female school teachers wind up being arrested for farking a student or two? be realistic. hot jailbait ass is the best there is. worth going to prison for, i'm sure. you dress like a fire fighter, you get treated like a fire fighter.
 
2020-11-25 10:25:27 AM  
4 votes:

inglixthemad: steklo: Stantz: Maybe I'm old (47, so maybe) but I never remember any of the girls I went to school with looking particularly distracting during gym class. But this WAS mid-late 80's, so the hair was probably the bigger distraction

You never met Allison from the 7th grade. (1980 or so) Way back when, the school made the girls wear these really really tight yellow shirts...I mean really tight...

My middle daughter had a friend that went from flat to, ahem, "blessed" over a summer. She was actually pretty embarrassed about it. I mean going from most of the teen boys ignoring her ~100lbs with "mosquito bites" body to staring at her ~115lbs with DD's body was quite a shock for a 15yo. The ultimate laugh was my daughter getting pissed off when she walked in on that friend having naked sexy time. Freaked the heck out, and made us sit her down for a bit of a chat. "Yes, we know it's not ideal your friend decided jumping in bed with your brother would be fun but we can't make him not date her or vice versa." Funny thing being the reason she jumped him, apparently, was because he didn't turn into a gibbering idiot when she suddenly grew boobs.


That is a wise young man
 
2020-11-25 10:22:16 AM  
4 votes:

orbister: rewind2846: orbister: rewind2846: Let's try dealing with that first. Teaching people not to eye-rape is better than teaching people how to avoid being eye-raped.

"Eye-rape"? Did you intend to minimise actual rape?

No. Eye-rape is what was happening here, not physical rape. That's what the complaint was about in the story.

"Eye-rape" is not a thing, so it couldn't have happened.


Little early for that incel shat, isn't it?
 
2020-11-25 10:05:29 AM  
4 votes:

IndyJohn: NM Volunteer: namegoeshere: Hire less pervy teachers.

Yep.  I've been in high schools for museum and Kiwanis reasons, and I have thus interacted with high school students.  They look like children.  Even when they change out of their school clothes and go to Walmart in more revealing clothes, they just look like children wearing revealing clothes.  Maybe Hollywood has screwed up people's expectations by Dawson Casting people in their late 20s as high school students.  But it sounds like people need to stop being attracted to children.

Seriously?

High school is a a crazy mix.  There are students who look like kids and there are students-male and female-that absolutely do NOT look like kids.  Hell, there was a friend of mine who had a receding hairline at 18 who was our go-to for buying beer.


I was in jr. High with an 8th grader who had a full beard, of lumber-sexual proportions.
 
2020-11-25 9:54:23 AM  
4 votes:

Stantz: Maybe I'm old (47, so maybe) but I never remember any of the girls I went to school with looking particularly distracting during gym class. But this WAS mid-late 80's, so the hair was probably the bigger distraction


Puberty came late huh?
 
2020-11-25 9:53:04 AM  
4 votes:

IndyJohn: winedrinkingman: Has the school considered simply not hiring pedophiles?  Because it's students are between 1st to 6th grade.  If you are distracted by your sexual arousal by what those girls are wearing, you are a pedophile and should not be working anywhere near children.

It's not first through sixth grade

The article is about a secondary school and explicitly refers to students from ages 12-18


Not a Brit, but I think the terms they meant were "upper 1st to upper 6th", which in American translates as "7th grade to HS senior".  Still pervy, but not quite pedo-pervy.
 
2020-11-25 9:38:12 AM  
4 votes:

winedrinkingman: Has the school considered simply not hiring pedophiles?  Because it's students are between 1st to 6th grade.  If you are distracted by your sexual arousal by what those girls are wearing, you are a pedophile and should not be working anywhere near children.


It's not first through sixth grade

The article is about a secondary school and explicitly refers to students from ages 12-18
 
2020-11-25 9:28:12 AM  
4 votes:
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2020-11-25 9:25:15 AM  
4 votes:

Livinglush: it's really true, girls DID NOT look like this 20 years ago.


Simple explanation - no IG, SC, TT or social media in general. Pop stars were bubbly and innocent, and no-one made themselves household names by publicly dressing like a hooker or wearing bikinis totalling 2 inches square of material. Jordyn, i'm looking at you.
 
2020-11-25 9:10:33 AM  
4 votes:

Leader O'Cola: They're turned off by the fact you still have your own jizz crustily dried up on your 4 mustache hairs.


I'd literally beat you to death with my gym fedora if you said this to me in meatspace.

I'm the one with the trucknut earrings.  You see me motoring my Hoverround towards you, you better walk briskly in the opposite direction.
 
2020-11-25 9:06:30 AM  
4 votes:
Believe me, I've tried, I wear tight-fitting gym clothes every single day and women still do not want to have sex with me, even when I am violently grunting and benching all 95 pounds on multiple occasions.

Maybe I need to wear more than one cologne when I go to the gym.
 
2020-11-25 3:51:23 PM  
3 votes:
I just want to add that light grey yoga pants are the best for women to workout in.

When the sweat runs down their goodies, it outlines their nooks and crannies in darker grey sweat soaked material. I like that.
 
2020-11-25 1:10:17 PM  
3 votes:

Stantz: Probably because even though it's 2020 and we're all progressive n'ting, girls are still perceived as things to be judged & rated on appearance.


In high school boys are judged on the cars their parents gave them, how much money they (their parents) have, how "cute" they are, and so on, perceived not as people but the items they can provide or looks. The other option is to be a star in one of the preferred high school sports, but that's faded a bit in the last few decades.

Society is shallow as fark to everyone.
 
2020-11-25 11:56:58 AM  
3 votes:
How is this surprising?

We're hairless apes that just got out of caves. Our priorities are air, water, food, shelter clothing.

You know what the next one after that is?! High school girls in tight clothing.
 
2020-11-25 10:51:42 AM  
3 votes:

SpectroBoy: Marcus Aurelius: Gym is a perversion, and needs to be banned by Congress.

Really?!?

Is it the exercise you're against?
Or the teaching of exercise?

What's your objection to phys ed?


Personally, I object to the whole Sports/School Spirit bullshiat. Educational psychologists warn against school populations higher than Dunbar's number, approx 150 students, but that's too small a school to field a decent football team, so we end up with these massive, impersonal schools with most of the real estate devoted to sports fields. If you want to know what's wrong with America, realize that the highest paid public employees in many states are P.E. coaches, and not teachers or doctors.

People who want their kids to play sports should support their local Park District.
 
2020-11-25 10:46:53 AM  
3 votes:

Doodenkoff: You know how I know you're gay?


You know how I know you missed the post where I said i went to an all-boys school from the age of 13 so had little to no contact with girls outside my small social circles. Once I left that school after 3 years in the wilderness the girls I grew up with (as in, didn't go to school with and ignored while I was fixated on my studies) became much more noticeable to me. Luckily, they noticed me too.
 
2020-11-25 10:37:53 AM  
3 votes:
This thread is a train wreck and I love it.
 
2020-11-25 10:35:10 AM  
3 votes:

Psychopompous: You do realize that teachers are paid to supervise students, which requires looking at them occasionally?


Of course. The issue here is the teachers and staff b*tching about what the girls are wearing when it still meets school dress codes because it makes THEM uncomfortable. That is their problem, not the girls.
 
2020-11-25 10:24:29 AM  
3 votes:

NikolaiFarkoff: The age of consent in the UK is 16, so we're definitely treading on a moral -- but probably not legal -- gray area.

In the history of humanity, there is nothing really against 15-18 year olds getting involved in adult relationships, at least not until the laws of the 20th century told us they couldn't. But the bigger, more universal, issue here is the balance of power in the relationship between teacher and student.

/surprised at the sudden prudishness in this thread
//maybe just jelly I got no attention in HS


What's the UK got to do with this?
 
2020-11-25 10:07:32 AM  
3 votes:

orbister: yes, certainly, but eighteen year olds are more-or-less adults.


probably TMI, but my first serious girlfriend was 16 and I was 18. We met not long after she turned 16 and we were pretty into each other, if you get my meaning, and many a time I'd pick her up from school in her lunch break and spend a happy hour together, before dropping her off for the afternoon. Her school-friends knew, and we're sure the teachers had their suspicions as well, but we were all legal so there wasn't a lot they could do about it.

The school cleaners weren't that happy either, but that's probably too much of an overshare.

/Young, dumb and... No, that'll do.
 
2020-11-25 9:56:33 AM  
3 votes:

NikolaiFarkoff: The age of consent in the UK is 16, so we're definitely treading on a moral -- but probably not legal -- gray area.

In the history of humanity, there is nothing really against 15-18 year olds getting involved in adult relationships, at least not until the laws of the 20th century told us they couldn't. But the bigger, more universal, issue here is the balance of power in the relationship between teacher and student.

/surprised at the sudden prudishness in this thread
//maybe just jelly I got no attention in HS


In the UK the age of consent doesn't apply if you're a teacher or other adult in a similar level of trust who decides it's a good idea to fark a high schooler.

/this knowledge comes from having spent my teenage years in the UK, at a secondary school/high school where a teacher decided to embark on a relationship with a sixth form (16-18 years old) student, not from being "Area man with suspiciously comprehensive knowledge of international age of consent laws"
 
2020-11-25 9:54:25 AM  
3 votes:

orbister: rewind2846: Let's try dealing with that first. Teaching people not to eye-rape is better than teaching people how to avoid being eye-raped.

"Eye-rape"? Did you intend to minimise actual rape?


No. Eye-rape is what was happening here, not physical rape. That's what the complaint was about in the story.
 
2020-11-25 9:51:04 AM  
3 votes:
Shouldn't these kids be wearing pajamas sitting in front of their school provided laptops pretending to virtually learn with their webcam off watching TikTok's on their phone or playing Animal Crossing on their Switch, anyway?
 
2020-11-25 9:46:14 AM  
3 votes:

NikolaiFarkoff: is the balance of power in the relationship between teacher and student.


There have been several cases over the last few years where a teacher (of either sex) has been fired due to having a relationship with one of their pupils. the pupils were of legal age, and the age difference between the two were never anything approaching scandalous numbers, but it was the 'abuse of authority' that lost them their jobs. If they'd both been at separate schools and met via other means, there probably wouldn't be a problem.

someonelse: Stantz: Livinglush: it's really true, girls DID NOT look like this 20 years ago.


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That was then

davynelson: [breakbrunch.com image 600x750]


This is now. There really is no comparison
 
2020-11-25 9:41:52 AM  
3 votes:

Lambskincoat: What that notice sounds like to the students: The male teachers are very horny for young girls, please give their boners a break, and dress like nuns for a bit. Thanks, the staff


I mean, it's what it sounds like to me and I'm a 42 year old man. If a grown adult man is "distracted" by a child wearing tight clothes, that person has NO business being a teacher.
 
2020-11-25 9:33:58 AM  
3 votes:

Whatthefark: Oops, wrong thread.


Opps then I apologize as well.

carry on
 
2020-11-25 9:31:00 AM  
3 votes:
This thread is useless without pics.

/weird, the guy from Dateline NBC is at my front door for some reason
 
2020-11-25 9:30:10 AM  
3 votes:
Has the school considered simply not hiring pedophiles?  Because it's students are between 1st to 6th grade.  If you are distracted by your sexual arousal by what those girls are wearing, you are a pedophile and should not be working anywhere near children.
 
2020-11-25 9:29:08 AM  
3 votes:
"No idea why they've gone quiet," said Foster Friess, a high-dollar Republican donor who chipped in $250,000 to America First this year. "Maybe they've run out of money."

I doubt they have run out of money. Trump is most likely pocketing it and putting it into an off-shore bank account.
 
2020-11-25 3:46:49 PM  
2 votes:

WastrelWay: Easy solution: have female teachers. Oh... wait....


All our female gym teachers were obvious lesbians.
 
2020-11-25 3:17:36 PM  
2 votes:

snowybunting: Room 222


Karen Valentine for the win...

I barely remember that show...

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2020-11-25 3:06:52 PM  
2 votes:

dothemath: [Fark user image image 300x600]
FARK ad on this thread.

I wish I made this up.


"In ten years, I'm going to be dating her" -Donald Trump, President of the United States of America
 
2020-11-25 12:14:06 PM  
2 votes:

steklo: He told me that if he should ever need to speak to a student after class, he invites another teacher as a witness that nothing shady is going on. He's so afraid of the student making up lies to get him in trouble or fired.


I used to train people working with children, and that was my advice too. The issue isn't actually the child concerned as the possibility of rumours from others. "Bernadette was alone in the room with Mr Steklo and she seemed all upset when she came out" is not something you want getting to parents, so when you tell Bernadette that she hasn't make the debating team you make damn sure you are not alone with her.
 
2020-11-25 12:13:16 PM  
2 votes:
SSDD

We'll be having this argument decades, millennia from now...

It's why they're called "jailbait"
Men
Women
Gay
Straight
Etc...
Who to who is irrelevant.

Keep your self under control
Keep your thoughts to yourself

Once the threshold is met...it's no ones business but your own

** laws may change per location (ignorance of the law does not excuse it)
Enjoy studying
 
2020-11-25 12:06:52 PM  
2 votes:

gunther_bumpass: dothemath: [Fark user image 300x600]
FARK ad on this thread.

I wish I made this up.

Yeah.. I've got ads for pants and turntables. Might want to clear your browser history there, Chester.


Good idea, ill get right on it after im done shaving your moms butt hole. I left a wiffle ball bat in there and I cant see the handle.
 
2020-11-25 11:58:24 AM  
2 votes:
I don't even see it as a question of perversion. A parent can see and notice inappropriate dress on their child without accusations of being a pervert. If this is anything like a lot of American schools, the teachers especially men, are warned about appearances. Never be alone with a student. Always leave the door open in an office if you are with a student. The student's clothing can add an appearance of inappropriate behavior. Especially within the climate of inter-student relations. If a student is dress inappropriately for the school, I can see the teacher being paranoid of hearing, "He just treats her like that because of how she dresses."
 
2020-11-25 11:45:53 AM  
2 votes:
Fark needs a Pedo button in addition to Smart and Funny.
 
2020-11-25 11:36:35 AM  
2 votes:

indy_kid: Distracted?


A very good and dear friend of mine is a teacher in a HS located in a very bad part of town.

He told me that if he should ever need to speak to a student after class, he invites another teacher as a witness that nothing shady is going on. He's so afraid of the student making up lies to get him in trouble or fired.
 
2020-11-25 11:26:11 AM  
2 votes:
My high school girlfriend's big sister "dated" several of the teachers while she was attending said high school.  She graduated to sleeping with her married bosses until she wrecked the home of a wealthy one and married him.  She divorced him and lives in a palatial estate.  My high school girlfriend married an abuser, and I had to send her money to escape.  Life is funny.
We all wore sexless gym uniforms, and they had to call my mom to tell her to have me bring mine home to be laundered.
 
2020-11-25 11:23:24 AM  
2 votes:

Stantz: girls are still perceived as things to be judged & rated on appearance.


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2020-11-25 11:21:30 AM  
2 votes:

sorceror: but even they explicitly acknowledge that they are more concerned about girls than boys.


Probably because even though it's 2020 and we're all progressive n'ting, girls are still perceived as things to be judged & rated on appearance. Social media today is partly responsible for this, couple this with peer pressure and it's no surprise some girls get up an hour earlier than we used to just to do hair & make-up.

Schools are places of education, so appearance shouldn't come into it. But it does, and there's a difference between making yourself look nice to feel better about yourself, and hitching your skirt up so it's just above your stocking-tops. In base terms, dress codes are sometimes put in place to protect naive girls from themselves and what they've taught themselves is acceptable clothing, when it's far from. Again, peer pressure & IG are largely to blame.

Conversely, the lads are looking at the same images and teaching themselves to only accept someone who looks a certain way, so when a girl isn't feeling noticed... see above.
 
2020-11-25 11:16:03 AM  
2 votes:
Aqualung my friend...
 
2020-11-25 11:09:41 AM  
2 votes:

sorceror: starsrift: Yes, but why are these kids wearing "skin-tight" clothing, too? Take teachers out of the mix; just the student's counterparts could be discomfited. Let's stop pretending that sartorial display isn't part of sexuality, and instead consider that as one goes through puberty, it is an education that should be received, but also appropriately taught to the degree of the societal norm, whatever that may be.

As "one goes through puberty", the "student's counterparts" need to learn to relate to others with respect and consideration - even if they happen to be horny. That's a critical life skill; just ask Jeffrey Toobin. And there's already school dress codes, that are already more strict for females than males. Tackling things from the other end is at least as necessary.


I'm just going to circle around to the word "skin-tight" that was in TFA. Just because it "technically" covers whatever does not mean it is appropriate. And again, that needs to be educated.

Similarly, one doesn't attend a piano concert in a rubber gimp suit.
 
2020-11-25 10:58:37 AM  
2 votes:
Schools: Girls, dress like nuns so as to not distract the boys.
Also schools: Gay boys, you'll be full-contact wresting for half an hour before taking an open-room shower with the soccer team.
 
2020-11-25 10:54:08 AM  
2 votes:
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2020-11-25 10:45:37 AM  
2 votes:

madgonad: rewind2846: Why are teachers staring at 12-18 year old girls?
Let's try dealing with that first. Teaching people not to eye-rape is better than teaching people how to avoid being eye-raped.

Why? A hundred million years of evolution. Females of peak fertility (who would have been married off a hundred years ago) are going to get noticed biologically. Now the staff should be trained to maintain the highest level of professionalism, but they aren't robots.


Exactly correct.
 
2020-11-25 10:38:48 AM  
2 votes:
Oh all the pictures

You guys arent helping at all
 
2020-11-25 10:37:17 AM  
2 votes:

sorceror: IndyJohn: How are the dress codes more strict for females?  Are they allowing boys to wear daisy dukes and expose their midriffs but not girls?  Are they allowing boys to wear skirts above their knees but not girls?

https://www.nea.org/advocating-for-cha​nge/new-from-nea/when-school-dress-cod​es-discriminate


Read the article

There are some dress codes that specifically target gender - but many do not

One example from that article was that a girl was required to put tape over the holes in her pants.  Unless they are allowing guys to wear jeans with holes, that's not discrimination.

Similarly, a rule about yoga pants is not discrimination unless it's applied differently based on gender.

As long as the dress code applies to everyone, it's not discrimination just because one gender or another tends to run afoul of a particular provision.  A rule against underwear above your waistband isn't discrimination against males just because it's fashionable for guys to sag.
 
2020-11-25 10:30:17 AM  
2 votes:
If you dress like a prostitute people expect you to live up to the job.
 
2020-11-25 10:27:08 AM  
2 votes:

rewind2846: Why are teachers staring at 12-18 year old girls?
Let's try dealing with that first. Teaching people not to eye-rape is better than teaching people how to avoid being eye-raped.


You do realize that teachers are paid to supervise students, which requires looking at them occasionally? Some of the cheaper leggings sold these days are virtually transparent and reveal every contour of what is vulgarly known as "camel toe". Will the boys be allowed to wear sheer leggings with a spandex pouch for their twig and berries to dangle in? What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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2020-11-25 10:26:58 AM  
2 votes:

Whatthefark: Oops, wrong thread.


username checks out
 
2020-11-25 10:20:23 AM  
2 votes:
Heh, when $daughter[0] started high school I was slightly amused to find that everyone was issued clothing for gym classes. It was a reasonably baggy t-shirt and generously cut '70s-style classic gym shorts.

I guess that's one way to prevent any leering but I'm not sure who needed to be protected. There were a couple of gym teachers but the kids always seemed to end up with the short-haired woman who just happened to be in a relationship with another woman.
 
2020-11-25 10:16:47 AM  
2 votes:

Lambskincoat: What that notice sounds like to the students: The male teachers are very horny for young girls, please give their boners a break, and dress like nuns for a bit. Thanks, the staff


No need for simile, that's exactly what the notice is.
 
2020-11-25 10:02:25 AM  
2 votes:

orbister: "Eye-rape" is not a thing, so it couldn't have happened.


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"all aboard the trolley to the land of make believe!"
 
2020-11-25 9:55:16 AM  
2 votes:

starsrift: Yes, but why are these kids wearing "skin-tight" clothing, too? Take teachers out of the mix; just the student's counterparts could be discomfited. Let's stop pretending that sartorial display isn't part of sexuality, and instead consider that as one goes through puberty, it is an education that should be received, but also appropriately taught to the degree of the societal norm, whatever that may be.


As "one goes through puberty", the "student's counterparts" need to learn to relate to others with respect and consideration - even if they happen to be horny. That's a critical life skill; just ask Jeffrey Toobin. And there's already school dress codes, that are already more strict for females than males. Tackling things from the other end is at least as necessary.
 
2020-11-25 9:51:11 AM  
2 votes:

NikolaiFarkoff: The age of consent in the UK is 16, so we're definitely treading on a moral -- but probably not legal -- gray area.

In the history of humanity, there is nothing really against 15-18 year olds getting involved in adult relationships, at least not until the laws of the 20th century told us they couldn't. But the bigger, more universal, issue here is the balance of power in the relationship between teacher and student.

/surprised at the sudden prudishness in this thread
//maybe just jelly I got no attention in HS


I believe the article is about Ireland which is not part of the UK

I have no idea of the age of consent there
 
2020-11-25 9:41:16 AM  
2 votes:

winedrinkingman: Has the school considered simply not hiring pedophiles?


Hebephiles or Ephebophiles, but then they're harder words to scrawl on cardboard.
 
2020-11-25 9:40:13 AM  
2 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Gym is a perversion, and needs to be banned by Congress.

School sports too.


Sounds like someone needed a bit more gym class amd sports growing up.
 
2020-11-25 9:36:11 AM  
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2020-11-25 9:32:47 AM  
2 votes:

Whatthefark: Trump is most likely pocketing it and putting it into an off-shore bank account.


its not even a political thread and you toss his name around like its funny.

it's not. give it a rest ok?

We're all so very tired of hearing his name every 3 farking seconds.
 
2020-11-25 9:28:02 AM  
2 votes:
Moose knuckles still OK tho?
 
2020-11-25 9:25:39 AM  
2 votes:

Merltech: [Fark user image 187x270]


Well, it's harder for the chunky girls to escape, so.....
 
2020-11-25 9:18:10 AM  
2 votes:

Mike_LowELL: Believe me, I've tried, I wear tight-fitting gym clothes every single day and women still do not want to have sex with me, even when I am violently grunting and benching all 95 pounds on multiple occasions.

Maybe I need to wear more than one cologne when I go to the gym.


I am attractive American internet girl. Please send pictures of self in tight gymnasium clothing, and $5,000, and I will have much sex with you. Thank you for your consideration
 
2020-11-25 9:17:11 AM  
2 votes:

Stantz: Maybe I'm old (47, so maybe) but I never remember any of the girls I went to school with looking particularly distracting during gym class. But this WAS mid-late 80's, so the hair was probably the bigger distraction


You never met Allison from the 7th grade. (1980 or so) Way back when, the school made the girls wear these really really tight yellow shirts...I mean really tight...
 
2020-11-25 9:11:44 AM  
2 votes:

drjekel_mrhyde: Try skinny jeans


They make my butt look bigger than it already is.  It's basically cheating at that point.
 
2020-11-25 9:10:19 AM  
2 votes:

Mike_LowELL: Believe me, I've tried, I wear tight-fitting gym clothes every single day and women still do not want to have sex with me, even when I am violently grunting and benching all 95 pounds on multiple occasions.

Maybe I need to wear more than one cologne when I go to the gym.


Try skinny jeans
 
2020-11-26 11:44:29 AM  
1 vote:

OlderGuy: Did my electrical apprenticeship from '64 to '68.. the contractor I worked for had a rental house on the property, and the occupants had a very attractive daughter, who had an obvious 'hunger', so to speak...  appeared to be 18ish... cleaning out a truck one day, and she was hanging around, and her dad came over and sent her home, and informed he she was actually 12... told him I knew that when she started talking, and no, there was not and wouldn't be any 'activity'...  I also had been warned by my employer''s wife before she started hanging around..  her dad was an ok guy... said that anyone wearing pants was fair game for her... she did look good, though...


Username checks out.
 
2020-11-26 5:02:09 AM  
1 vote:

slantsix: steklo: Art is what you make of it. Might not please you, but it might please others.

You're right, but that doesn't make just any art worthy of appreciation.

I am not a critic or historian, but I do have 11 years of post-secondary art education including a master's in architecture, am a licensed architect, and have taught drawing at the university level. What do I know?


While it wasn't quite the perfect encapsulation of somebody building themselves up with false humility combined with the utter lack of self-awareness one naturally gains from existing in the real world this was still a quite lovely post, thank you. Art is great, it is the people who take it seriously who are the reason so much derision is cast at it however.
 
2020-11-25 8:50:22 PM  
1 vote:
On one hand, like they said, if a 12 year old in leggings is "distracting" they shouldn't be teaching... or be allowed anywhere near kids in any capacity.

On the other hand, I can easily envision a future world where the prerequisite of becoming a teacher is having one's genitals surgically removed and GoPro camera implanted into their foreheads for 24/7 government monitoring of all their activities to maintain "standards."

Because if there is one thing we can always be certain of, it's that no matter what the problem is, the government's solution will just be another problem.
 
2020-11-25 8:23:06 PM  
1 vote:

steklo: Art is what you make of it. Might not please you, but it might please others.


You're right, but that doesn't make just any art worthy of appreciation.

I am not a critic or historian, but I do have 11 years of post-secondary art education including a master's in architecture, am a licensed architect, and have taught drawing at the university level. What do I know?
 
2020-11-25 7:05:02 PM  
1 vote:

Do you know the way to Mordor: inglixthemad: steklo: Stantz: Maybe I'm old (47, so maybe) but I never remember any of the girls I went to school with looking particularly distracting during gym class. But this WAS mid-late 80's, so the hair was probably the bigger distraction

You never met Allison from the 7th grade. (1980 or so) Way back when, the school made the girls wear these really really tight yellow shirts...I mean really tight...

My middle daughter had a friend that went from flat to, ahem, "blessed" over a summer. She was actually pretty embarrassed about it. I mean going from most of the teen boys ignoring her ~100lbs with "mosquito bites" body to staring at her ~115lbs with DD's body was quite a shock for a 15yo. The ultimate laugh was my daughter getting pissed off when she walked in on that friend having naked sexy time. Freaked the heck out, and made us sit her down for a bit of a chat. "Yes, we know it's not ideal your friend decided jumping in bed with your brother would be fun but we can't make him not date her or vice versa." Funny thing being the reason she jumped him, apparently, was because he didn't turn into a gibbering idiot when she suddenly grew boobs.

This brings up a question that I have never thought about before.

We al know that fast growing teenage boys can eat their parents out of house and home with their all-consuming appetites.

If a particular young girl has a fast episode of breast growing like you describe, do they too develop an uncontrollable bout of hunger while this is going on and have trouble stopping themselves from eating?

It seems to make sense that this would be the case.


Currently feeding a teenage girl. I can confirm this. She eats everything in sight.
 
2020-11-25 5:56:36 PM  
1 vote:
How this hasn't been posted in here is beyond me. 

Harry Potter: Hermione Growth Spurt - SNL
Youtube uwfdFCP3KYM
 
2020-11-25 5:11:01 PM  
1 vote:

slantsix: I'm both enraged that something so below mediocre would exist, and curious as to WHY.



Art is what you make of it. Might not please you, but it might please others.
 
2020-11-25 4:04:08 PM  
1 vote:
So, is this true for boys, too?

How ;bout we skip all this, and do exercises the way they were done in ancient Greece... nude?
 
2020-11-25 3:45:50 PM  
1 vote:

Do you know the way to Mordor: inglixthemad: steklo: Stantz: Maybe I'm old (47, so maybe) but I never remember any of the girls I went to school with looking particularly distracting during gym class. But this WAS mid-late 80's, so the hair was probably the bigger distraction

You never met Allison from the 7th grade. (1980 or so) Way back when, the school made the girls wear these really really tight yellow shirts...I mean really tight...

My middle daughter had a friend that went from flat to, ahem, "blessed" over a summer. She was actually pretty embarrassed about it. I mean going from most of the teen boys ignoring her ~100lbs with "mosquito bites" body to staring at her ~115lbs with DD's body was quite a shock for a 15yo. The ultimate laugh was my daughter getting pissed off when she walked in on that friend having naked sexy time. Freaked the heck out, and made us sit her down for a bit of a chat. "Yes, we know it's not ideal your friend decided jumping in bed with your brother would be fun but we can't make him not date her or vice versa." Funny thing being the reason she jumped him, apparently, was because he didn't turn into a gibbering idiot when she suddenly grew boobs.

This brings up a question that I have never thought about before.

We al know that fast growing teenage boys can eat their parents out of house and home with their all-consuming appetites.

If a particular young girl has a fast episode of breast growing like you describe, do they too develop an uncontrollable bout of hunger while this is going on and have trouble stopping themselves from eating?

It seems to make sense that this would be the case.


Sadly, I can confirm that yes, this happens as well with girls.

/father of 4
//3 girls, lord help me
///another on the way...
 
2020-11-25 3:26:46 PM  
1 vote:

IndyJohn: And the fact that boys are not being pulled out of class is probably because they aren't wearing clothes so tight you can tell their religion.


In any case, that is what engineers call a "solved problem."
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2020-11-25 3:05:21 PM  
1 vote:

BeotchPudding: [img.memecdn.com image 480x566]


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2020-11-25 2:59:17 PM  
1 vote:
Should teachers leer at students? No.

Are you going to change human nature? Fark no.
 
2020-11-25 2:56:24 PM  
1 vote:
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2020-11-25 2:00:24 PM  
1 vote:

starsrift: Similarly, one doesn't attend a piano concert in a rubber gimp suit.


...and feels really awkward when he/she sees everyone else in their suits.
 
2020-11-25 1:53:27 PM  
1 vote:

WoodyHayes: Salmon: I went to a progressively minded hippy school when I was a kid, we would go swimming naked in the river on hot days.

I was in kindergarten so I really didn't think about it much, but I'd be willing to bet the older kids and teachers did (there were students there up to grade 10).

I suspect the old, "it's just the human body" excuse wouldn't fly these days.

Was this a public school? This really happened? When was this?


https://www.wholeschool.ca/

Looks like they're only up to grade 7 now, but I guess they could have been back then and I wouldn't have known as a youngster.

It happened, I've not made this up, my mom was a teacher there.

As a school, we watched Harold and Maude on reel-to-reel if that sets a timeline; it definately set my preference for older women and burning shiat.
 
2020-11-25 1:48:31 PM  
1 vote:

Latinwolf: Yes, let's encourage our children to not do any kind of physical activates and instead grow up to be fat asses.


I remember being in elementary school in the 70's and we had to do the presidential fitness tests in gym class.

and then once while high on LSD in high school,  we played the why game.

that's when you ask a question and keep answering why to it...the question we started with was..

"why do we have to go to gym class"

I think the final answer had something to do with money.
 
2020-11-25 1:39:31 PM  
1 vote:

Marcus Aurelius: Gym is a perversion, and needs to be banned by Congress.


Yes, let's encourage our children to not do any kind of physical activates and instead grow up to be fat asses.
 
2020-11-25 1:34:03 PM  
1 vote:

Billy Liar: Student of history
[i.pinimg.com image 850x1251]Swedish high-jumper, Melbourne Olympics, 1956


With small pox vaccine scar!
 
2020-11-25 1:29:28 PM  
1 vote:

gunther_bumpass: dothemath: gunther_bumpass: dothemath: [Fark user image 300x600]
FARK ad on this thread.

I wish I made this up.

Yeah.. I've got ads for pants and turntables. Might want to clear your browser history there, Chester.

Good idea, ill get right on it after im done shaving your moms butt hole. I left a wiffle ball bat in there and I cant see the handle.


And you wonder why you get ads featuring underaged kids.


Sounds like you two need to get Barefark™ and a room.

/Drew, did I do that right?
 
2020-11-25 1:26:29 PM  
1 vote:

Salmon: I went to a progressively minded hippy school when I was a kid, we would go swimming naked in the river on hot days.

I was in kindergarten so I really didn't think about it much, but I'd be willing to bet the older kids and teachers did (there were students there up to grade 10).

I suspect the old, "it's just the human body" excuse wouldn't fly these days.


Was this a public school? This really happened? When was this?
 
2020-11-25 1:20:19 PM  
1 vote:

inglixthemad: steklo: Stantz: Maybe I'm old (47, so maybe) but I never remember any of the girls I went to school with looking particularly distracting during gym class. But this WAS mid-late 80's, so the hair was probably the bigger distraction

You never met Allison from the 7th grade. (1980 or so) Way back when, the school made the girls wear these really really tight yellow shirts...I mean really tight...

My middle daughter had a friend that went from flat to, ahem, "blessed" over a summer. She was actually pretty embarrassed about it. I mean going from most of the teen boys ignoring her ~100lbs with "mosquito bites" body to staring at her ~115lbs with DD's body was quite a shock for a 15yo. The ultimate laugh was my daughter getting pissed off when she walked in on that friend having naked sexy time. Freaked the heck out, and made us sit her down for a bit of a chat. "Yes, we know it's not ideal your friend decided jumping in bed with your brother would be fun but we can't make him not date her or vice versa." Funny thing being the reason she jumped him, apparently, was because he didn't turn into a gibbering idiot when she suddenly grew boobs.


This brings up a question that I have never thought about before.

We al know that fast growing teenage boys can eat their parents out of house and home with their all-consuming appetites.

If a particular young girl has a fast episode of breast growing like you describe, do they too develop an uncontrollable bout of hunger while this is going on and have trouble stopping themselves from eating?

It seems to make sense that this would be the case.
 
2020-11-25 1:12:28 PM  
1 vote:

Livinglush: Stantz: Maybe I'm old (47, so maybe) but I never remember any of the girls I went to school with looking particularly distracting during gym class. But this WAS mid-late 80's, so the hair was probably the bigger distraction

A while back, I checked out some high school photos as part of similar discussion.  it's really true, girls DID NOT look like this 20 years ago.


A lot of it simply has to do with people eating more, but there is also some suggestion that it may have to do with increased levels of hormones and other chemicals. In any case, puberty seems to be happening early for a number of people, and they're physically maturing faster. We're getting quite a few 13 year olds who look 20.

BTW, although I'd never recommend it to anyone for obvious reasons, in high school there were a few of us who got to know some of the adults really well. This whole thing goes both ways.
 
2020-11-25 12:37:02 PM  
1 vote:

AndoCommando: I could not and did not want to go up to her parents to inform them that their daughter's shorts were too tight and too short.


One would think one of the parents would've noticed. Doesn't matter where they we're going, to the club or just a simple outing to the stores. Tight clothes on a teen leaving the house? Wouldn't happen in my home, that's for sure.
 
2020-11-25 12:32:55 PM  
1 vote:
Two summers ago I worked part time at a private golf course.  One day a memo came out re-enforcing the clubs dress code.  Most private golf clubs don't allow clothing like jeans, cutoffs, sweat/gum cloths or tight and revealing clothing.  Later that day one of the members 14 year old daughter showed up wearing a pair of shorts so tight you could read the date of a coin if she had one in her back pocket.

I could not and did not want to go up to her parents to inform them that their daughter's shorts were too tight and too short.
 
2020-11-25 12:23:55 PM  
1 vote:

dothemath: orbister: BeotchPudding: This pic has been banned from FARK for quite a number of years....

Shouldn't Farkers be able to look at it dispassionately?

Do you use your left or right hand for that?


Are you suggesting that you find it a sexually stimulating image?
 
2020-11-25 12:20:38 PM  
1 vote:

TheFoz: IndyJohn: NM Volunteer: namegoeshere: Hire less pervy teachers.

Yep.  I've been in high schools for museum and Kiwanis reasons, and I have thus interacted with high school students.  They look like children.  Even when they change out of their school clothes and go to Walmart in more revealing clothes, they just look like children wearing revealing clothes.  Maybe Hollywood has screwed up people's expectations by Dawson Casting people in their late 20s as high school students.  But it sounds like people need to stop being attracted to children.

Seriously?

High school is a a crazy mix.  There are students who look like kids and there are students-male and female-that absolutely do NOT look like kids.  Hell, there was a friend of mine who had a receding hairline at 18 who was our go-to for buying beer.

You're friends with LeBron James?!?

/kidding
//Greg Oden at 18 looked like he was 35
///sportsball references


Greg Oden!!!

That dude didn't look 35 -- he looked 55

Those furrows on his forehead were like canyons
 
2020-11-25 12:15:17 PM  
1 vote:
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What a distracted teacher may look like.
 
2020-11-25 12:15:17 PM  
1 vote:

ShamanGator: Kinky, is it wrong to give her my number & request she call me in 10 years?


Mr President?
 
2020-11-25 12:11:08 PM  
1 vote:

Frothy Panties: Are you kidding me? WTF would you post that?


The question to ask, is why did that Ad agency even think of it in the first place?
 
2020-11-25 12:09:50 PM  
1 vote:

sorceror: A mix of academic and popular sources, some even arguing the other way - but even they explicitly acknowledge that they are more concerned about girls than boys.


The really weird thing to me about school uniforms in the UK, and especially England, is their insisitence on dressing girls up in shirts, ties and jackets. There is a clear message there: "To participate in education you need to dress as a boy."

It's all very silly. The standard rules for Scottish secondary schools, when they have uniform, are "black below the waist, black on white above the waist, don't show your underwear" and that seems to work pretty well.
 
2020-11-25 12:04:06 PM  
1 vote:

dothemath: [Fark user image 300x600]
FARK ad on this thread.

I wish I made this up.


Yeah.. I've got ads for pants and turntables. Might want to clear your browser history there, Chester.
 
2020-11-25 12:01:24 PM  
1 vote:

NM Volunteer: Fark needs a Pedo button in addition to Smart and Funny.


That's what farkies are for. And man, oh man, the "it's ephebophilia and it's not entirely wrong" force is out in spades today.
 
2020-11-25 11:39:45 AM  
1 vote:
BeotchPudding

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Donkey punch practice???
 
2020-11-25 11:38:32 AM  
1 vote:
i went to high school in the 80s at a school of roughly 3000 students. they had a strict "no shorts" policy. Well, except that girls could wear skirts, and the cheerleaders could wear their short cheer skirts throughout the day.

This generally was fine, except that by the time you got to the end of May/ first week of June for finals...because the school didn't have air conditioning. So you had 3000 kids trapped in poorly air circulated hallways on the occasional 80 degree days. The classrooms on the south side of the building during the afternoon would hit high 90 temps.

Anyway, the girls got to wear their short skirts and strap shirts, while the boys were bogged down with their jeans.

A couple of boys were sent home because they started wearing kilts just for comfort levels.

Ultimately, the school conceded to allowing students to wear shorts when members of the football team started wearing cheerleader skirts, claiming that it was allowed "school attire" because the girls were allowed to wear them.
 
2020-11-25 11:13:45 AM  
1 vote:

BeotchPudding: [Fark user image image 450x600]


I don't think Monkey Snatching the Peach works as well on women?
 
2020-11-25 10:59:54 AM  
1 vote:

Persnickety: IndyJohn: PaceyWhitter: Here is the thing.  I don't doubt that some girls at the school were wearing inappropriate outfits.  High schoolers love to push boundaries.  But there is a right way and a wrong way to deal with that and this school took the decidedly wrong way.

First you make it a rule that no one can wear skin tight clothes and you do not mention gender.  Sure, they didn't see an issue with what the guys were wearing, but there is no reason to make this rule gender specific, no one wants to see a banana hammock either.

Second, don't mention "distracting the teachers".  That makes your teachers look like a bunch of weirdos perking out on teenage girls.  You can say that skin tight clothing is inappropriate without bringing up anything sexual.

Third, you need to have a discussion with whichever male gym teacher brought this clothing up as distracting about why exactly they are looking at the students that way.  After that you need to monitor them closely.

I was with you up until the last paragraph.  You don't need to "have a discussion" with and "monitor" a male teacher who points out that a student was wearing something inappropriate.  Are only female staff allowed to enforce the dress code?

I have several teachers in my extended family and the answer to your question is yes.  Unless you plan on risking your career just to enforce some vague and poorly thought out school policy on dress code, male teachers don't report dress code violations.  Ever.  Nowadays even the female teachers think twice about doing it,


You're right - being a man in the teaching profession can be like walking through a minefield.  My point was that it shouldn't be.
 
2020-11-25 10:57:28 AM  
1 vote:

IndyJohn: PaceyWhitter: Here is the thing.  I don't doubt that some girls at the school were wearing inappropriate outfits.  High schoolers love to push boundaries.  But there is a right way and a wrong way to deal with that and this school took the decidedly wrong way.

First you make it a rule that no one can wear skin tight clothes and you do not mention gender.  Sure, they didn't see an issue with what the guys were wearing, but there is no reason to make this rule gender specific, no one wants to see a banana hammock either.

Second, don't mention "distracting the teachers".  That makes your teachers look like a bunch of weirdos perking out on teenage girls.  You can say that skin tight clothing is inappropriate without bringing up anything sexual.

Third, you need to have a discussion with whichever male gym teacher brought this clothing up as distracting about why exactly they are looking at the students that way.  After that you need to monitor them closely.

I was with you up until the last paragraph.  You don't need to "have a discussion" with and "monitor" a male teacher who points out that a student was wearing something inappropriate.  Are only female staff allowed to enforce the dress code?


I have several teachers in my extended family and the answer to your question is yes.  Unless you plan on risking your career just to enforce some vague and poorly thought out school policy on dress code, male teachers don't report dress code violations.  Ever.  Nowadays even the female teachers think twice about doing it,
 
2020-11-25 10:49:04 AM  
1 vote:

grokca: Monica Lewinsky's favourite store.


Well we know she never went to the dry cleaners...so yeah, I can believe this.
 
2020-11-25 10:48:13 AM  
1 vote:

steklo: [Fark user image 748x537]


Monica Lewinsky's favourite store.
 
2020-11-25 10:44:23 AM  
1 vote:

sinko swimo: sad how many people forget that a persons sex drive is a perfectly natural normal thing. many young women are at their prime in their teenage years; their bodies are near perfection and they ooze testosterone. you don't have to be a pervert to notice this.


Pervert? No, but there's a huge difference between noticing something and allowing it to distract you. Self control is a thing.

you just need to have eyes. women are masters of "look at what you can't have"; they enjoy it and they deny it. many school teachers are not all that older than the students they are teaching.

So?

why do you think so many female school teachers wind up being arrested for farking a student or two?

Because making excuses and blaming others for your failings isn't a trait exclusive to males?

be realistic. hot jailbait ass is the best there is. worth going to prison for, i'm sure.

Well, if you won't learn self control perhaps prison is the best place for you. Funny enough while there you'll likely run into other prisoners who also aren't' good at self control. If you're lucky they may take a liking to you and you'll have a first hand opportunity to see the behavior you are justifying from a different perspective. It will be a painful and traumatic lesson, but based on your comment, one that you apparently need so you can fully appreciate how stupid your perspective is.

you dress like a fire fighter, you get treated like a fire fighter.
 
2020-11-25 10:32:39 AM  
1 vote:

Unoriginal_Username: If a teacher is leering at a 12 year old, then yeah he's got a farking problem and shouldn't be anywhere near kids.


The issue isn't that leering was happening, it's that leering may happen in the near future. No-one is being accused of leering, but someone who isn't leering at the girls at all is painting every adult male at the school with the 'might leer' brush.

THAT'S the person they should be taking a closer look at
 
2020-11-25 10:17:48 AM  
1 vote:

steklo: Stantz: Maybe I'm old (47, so maybe) but I never remember any of the girls I went to school with looking particularly distracting during gym class. But this WAS mid-late 80's, so the hair was probably the bigger distraction

You never met Allison from the 7th grade. (1980 or so) Way back when, the school made the girls wear these really really tight yellow shirts...I mean really tight...


Taking a wild guess, but ... Allison couldn't touch her elbows together, could she?
 
2020-11-25 10:15:59 AM  
1 vote:
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It's perfectly logical that they shouldn't wear leggings to pe. They have to pull them down first.
 
2020-11-25 10:13:59 AM  
1 vote:

IndyJohn: How are the dress codes more strict for females?  Are they allowing boys to wear daisy dukes and expose their midriffs but not girls?  Are they allowing boys to wear skirts above their knees but not girls?


https://www.nea.org/advocating-for-ch​a​nge/new-from-nea/when-school-dress-cod​es-discriminate
 
2020-11-25 10:08:34 AM  
1 vote:

madgonad: Now the staff should be trained to maintain the highest level of professionalism, but they aren't robots.


If they "maintained the highest levels of professionalism" they wouldn't be whining about what these girls were wearing. They would just do their jobs.
 
2020-11-25 10:05:31 AM  
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sorceror: starsrift: Yes, but why are these kids wearing "skin-tight" clothing, too? Take teachers out of the mix; just the student's counterparts could be discomfited. Let's stop pretending that sartorial display isn't part of sexuality, and instead consider that as one goes through puberty, it is an education that should be received, but also appropriately taught to the degree of the societal norm, whatever that may be.

As "one goes through puberty", the "student's counterparts" need to learn to relate to others with respect and consideration - even if they happen to be horny. That's a critical life skill; just ask Jeffrey Toobin. And there's already school dress codes, that are already more strict for females than males. Tackling things from the other end is at least as necessary.


How are the dress codes more strict for females?  Are they allowing boys to wear daisy dukes and expose their midriffs but not girls?  Are they allowing boys to wear skirts above their knees but not girls?
 
2020-11-25 10:03:58 AM  
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gunga galunga: This thread is useless without pics.

/weird, the guy from Dateline NBC is at my front door for some reason


Stop watching Cuties on repeat.
 
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2020-11-25 9:59:26 AM  
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Recoil Therapy: Stantz: Maybe I'm old (47, so maybe) but I never remember any of the girls I went to school with looking particularly distracting during gym class. But this WAS mid-late 80's, so the hair was probably the bigger distraction

Puberty came late huh?


You know I had that problem too.  I don't remember any super-sexy girls in my high school (except for one who was a swimmer and you couldn't get around it).  I was way too concerned with studies. Plus I was ugly.
 
2020-11-25 9:43:39 AM  
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EvilEgg: Girls, it's your right to dress anyway you like, you just can't control who's attention you attract.

Should the men and boys leer?  Probably not, but they do have the right to. They don't have the right to anything past that.  Not your attention, not your smile, or even not being glared at.


fark that, no. Adult male teachers DO NOT HAVE ANY farkING RIGHT TO LEER AT 12 YEAR OLD GIRLS. That's farking disgusting, offensive and seriously, man, what the fark is wrong with you?
 
2020-11-25 9:42:43 AM  
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Stantz: Livinglush: it's really true, girls DID NOT look like this 20 years ago.

Simple explanation - no IG, SC, TT or social media in general. Pop stars were bubbly and innocent, and no-one made themselves household names by publicly dressing like a hooker or wearing bikinis totalling 2 inches square of material. Jordyn, i'm looking at you.


Come on, man - you're talking about changes that would land around the margin of error. Pop culture celebrities from our shared childhood would be happy to take you on a pictorial tour of how things aren't THAT different.

/fight human nature
//call 'em the way they actually were
 
2020-11-25 9:36:46 AM  
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Marcus Aurelius: Gym is a perversion, and needs to be banned by Congress.


Really?!?

Is it the exercise you're against?
Or the teaching of exercise?

What's your objection to phys ed?
 
2020-11-25 9:34:40 AM  
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Bowen: Rapmaster2000: When I first started working as an engineer way back in 2000, the people who were my age wore polo shirts tucked into jeans.  We were less formal than the guys in their 40s who wore button down shirts and khakis, who I assume were less formal than their seniors who likely wore ties back in the early 80s.  Now, the 20-something men in my office wear shorts and T-shirts, and the women wear yoga pants.  Some of them wear half-shirts.

I feel old.

All the moms at my kids school wear yoga pants pretty much 24/7 (pre-Covid). Yes, I'm old. But come on, you're wearing sweatpants on back to school night? This is the way you want to meet your kids teacher for the first time?


I'd rather they do that, than wear pajamas... not sure what it is, but I'm seeing a lot of people wearing pajamas out in public, even before COVID
 
2020-11-25 9:33:15 AM  
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Livinglush: Stantz: Maybe I'm old (47, so maybe) but I never remember any of the girls I went to school with looking particularly distracting during gym class. But this WAS mid-late 80's, so the hair was probably the bigger distraction

A while back, I checked out some high school photos as part of similar discussion.  it's really true, girls DID NOT look like this 20 years ago.


And Definitely Not back when I was in school !  100% imagination... not a hint.   We did have Annette, though....
 
2020-11-25 9:16:04 AM  
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School tells girls not to wear tight-fitting gym clothes so they don't 'distract' teachers. Still no word on how to prevent teachers from being 'distracted' by students wearing tight-fitting clothes

Saltpeter in their coffee?
 
2020-11-25 9:12:55 AM  
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2020-11-25 9:07:58 AM  
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Mike_LowELL: Believe me, I've tried, I wear tight-fitting gym clothes every single day and women still do not want to have sex with me, even when I am violently grunting and benching all 95 pounds on multiple occasions.

Maybe I need to wear more than one cologne when I go to the gym.


They're turned off by the fact you still have your own jizz crustily dried up on your 4 mustache hairs.
 
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