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2020-11-24 8:46:02 PM  
Pinche colos
 
2020-11-24 9:32:27 PM  
Here's the plan:

Step 1: Travel to the area near the Canadian border in Montana (or Idaho, North Dakota)
Step 2:  Start speaking Spanish near a CBP officer
Step 3;  Profit
 
2020-11-24 9:42:51 PM  
You know what would help repair trust in the US government in the next Administration?

Admit wrongdoing. Come out on these settlements and just say that we've had some horrifically racist assholes working in CBP, ICE, and other LEO capacities and we really farked up in failing to keep them from being horrifically racist assholes. This crap where you pay people to go away, slap an NDA on everything gathered in the case and in the settlement, and walk away like nothing happened is the sort of crap you'd expect from Harvey Weinstein or ExxonMobil. It shouldn't be the standard with the US government.
 
2020-11-24 11:15:10 PM  

runwiz: Here's the plan:

Step 1: Travel to the area near the Canadian border in Montana (or Idaho, North Dakota)
Step 2:  Start speaking Spanish near a CBP officer
Step 3;  Profit


All the time.
Every chance I get.
 
2020-11-24 11:24:58 PM  

runwiz: Here's the plan:

Step 1: Travel to the area near the Canadian border in Montana (or Idaho, North Dakota)
Step 2:  Start speaking Spanish near a CBP officer
Step 3;  Profit


I see a fatal flaw in your plan. NOBODY goes to Montana, Idaho or North Dakota. I have never met anybody who actually even lives there.  I suspect there are no such places, that they are just a figment of the imagination created by Repubs to have 6 extra senators.
 
2020-11-24 11:26:00 PM  
Two women, chatting in Spanish walk by the house. . .

Very Ex-GF: They should speak English. This is America.
Me:. They weren't speaking to you, though.
VEGF:. . .
 
2020-11-24 11:28:46 PM  

vudukungfu: runwiz: Here's the plan:

Step 1: Travel to the area near the Canadian border in Montana (or Idaho, North Dakota)
Step 2:  Start speaking Spanish near a CBP officer
Step 3;  Profit

All the time.
Every chance I get.


I've tried this in multiple airports by speaking really loudly in Arabic.
/No dice.
//instead folks at the gate tried to make small talk with me instead...
 
2020-11-24 11:29:07 PM  
As if I needed another reason not to go to Montana.
 
2020-11-24 11:31:52 PM  
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2020-11-24 11:32:21 PM  
Russian's still cool, right?
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2020-11-24 11:32:59 PM  

Samsquantch: As if I needed another reason not to go to Montana.


That and the recent run on dental floss make it less attractive.

/if you get this reference, I like you
 
2020-11-24 11:34:17 PM  
Ima throw em curveball.

I'm going to the southern border with a hockey stick and speak polite French.
 
2020-11-24 11:34:38 PM  
It added that the settlement "is in no way intended to be, and should not be construed as, an admission of liability or fault on the part of the United States, its agents, servants, or employees, and it is specifically denied that they are liable to the plaintiffs."

Translation:
We were going to be found guilty as fark and if we found guilty or admit guilt it can set a record of us violating people's constitutional rights and we will be behind on any future investigations both criminal and civil.
 
2020-11-24 11:36:49 PM  
 
2020-11-24 11:38:54 PM  

thedingoatemybaby: runwiz: Here's the plan:

Step 1: Travel to the area near the Canadian border in Montana (or Idaho, North Dakota)
Step 2:  Start speaking Spanish near a CBP officer
Step 3;  Profit

I see a fatal flaw in your plan. NOBODY goes to Montana, Idaho or North Dakota. I have never met anybody who actually even lives there.  I suspect there are no such places, that they are just a figment of the imagination created by Repubs to have 6 extra senators.


They're real, all right
 
2020-11-24 11:39:37 PM  
Detaining people for speaking a language other than English is damn near the definition of ethnic discrimination.
 
2020-11-24 11:40:00 PM  

thedingoatemybaby: runwiz: Here's the plan:

Step 1: Travel to the area near the Canadian border in Montana (or Idaho, North Dakota)
Step 2:  Start speaking Spanish near a CBP officer
Step 3;  Profit

I see a fatal flaw in your plan. NOBODY goes to Montana, Idaho or North Dakota. I have never met anybody who actually even lives there.  I suspect there are no such places, that they are just a figment of the imagination created by Repubs to have 6 extra senators.


Just a conspiracy of cartographers, then?
 
2020-11-24 11:41:10 PM  

Samsquantch: As if I needed another reason not to go to Montana.


Captain Borodin disagrees
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2020-11-24 11:41:16 PM  

Farkin_Crazy: Ima throw em curveball.

I'm going to the southern border with a hockey stick and speak polite French.


I'll do you one better, I'll head there and speak Latin.
 
2020-11-24 11:41:25 PM  

dkulprit: It added that the settlement "is in no way intended to be, and should not be construed as, an admission of liability or fault on the part of the United States, its agents, servants, or employees, and it is specifically denied that they are liable to the plaintiffs."

Translation:
We were going to be found guilty as fark and if we found guilty or admit guilt it can set a record of us violating people's constitutional rights and we will be behind on any future investigations both criminal and civil.


I guarantee the settlement was like $30,000 each, the lawyer gets a third ($10k) and they each get $20,000, which is like $12.5k after tax.

That is my car being paid off. Which ain't bad.

Being detained for 40 minutes ain't good, but I'd take 3 years of car payments for 40 minutes of inconvenience and a few hours with a lawyer.
 
2020-11-24 11:41:59 PM  

Snapper Carr: Samsquantch: As if I needed another reason not to go to Montana.

That and the recent run on dental floss make it less attractive.

/if you get this reference, I like you


I didn't get it, but my palomino pony did
 
2020-11-24 11:42:41 PM  
I kniw the judicial likes out of court settlements. But this behavior will never be corrected without someone admitting guilt. That should be part of any settlement
 
2020-11-24 11:42:46 PM  

AllCatsAreBeautiful: vudukungfu: runwiz: Here's the plan:

Step 1: Travel to the area near the Canadian border in Montana (or Idaho, North Dakota)
Step 2:  Start speaking Spanish near a CBP officer
Step 3;  Profit

All the time.
Every chance I get.

I've tried this in multiple airports by speaking really loudly in Arabic.
/No dice.
//instead folks at the gate tried to make small talk with me instead...


CSB Time.

I was flying back to Colombia from the states and our plane got rerouted to Atlanta and we had a layover where they would not let us off.

So, normally I loathe people who use their phones on a plane, but I had to call the wife.

So I call her and sh asked me(keep in mind the convo is in Spanish) if I were going to be in time for my brother in law to grab me at the airport.  So I say in Spanish OJALA.

Which means God Willing, O Allah, but when the Moors were done banging Christopher Walken's grandma in Sicily, they trotted over to Spain to get some o dat ass.  So, needless to say, like many things in this world, there are a lot of Arabic leftovers that no one knows about.

So the old lady next to me gets up to go to the bathroom.

A little while later the stewardess comes to me and asks me to get my things.  I am puzzled.

Turns out the little old lady when to the flight crew and told them there was an Arab guy who was gonna hijack the plane.

So they moved me to first class.  Then she complained she should have moved me to first class.  I also got first class on the return flight.
 
2020-11-24 11:44:19 PM  
"It is a small place and we have a lot of agents here and nobody really has much to do," an unnamed border protection supervisor told attorneys with the ACLU in a videotaped deposition.

No shiat?
 
2020-11-24 11:45:44 PM  

CthulhuCalling: thedingoatemybaby: runwiz: Here's the plan:

Step 1: Travel to the area near the Canadian border in Montana (or Idaho, North Dakota)
Step 2:  Start speaking Spanish near a CBP officer
Step 3;  Profit

I see a fatal flaw in your plan. NOBODY goes to Montana, Idaho or North Dakota. I have never met anybody who actually even lives there.  I suspect there are no such places, that they are just a figment of the imagination created by Repubs to have 6 extra senators.

They're real, all right


They're spacers inserted between Minneapolis and Seattle.  They're made of styrofoam.
 
2020-11-24 11:46:24 PM  

theflatline: AllCatsAreBeautiful: vudukungfu: runwiz: Here's the plan:

Step 1: Travel to the area near the Canadian border in Montana (or Idaho, North Dakota)
Step 2:  Start speaking Spanish near a CBP officer
Step 3;  Profit

All the time.
Every chance I get.

I've tried this in multiple airports by speaking really loudly in Arabic.
/No dice.
//instead folks at the gate tried to make small talk with me instead...

CSB Time.

I was flying back to Colombia from the states and our plane got rerouted to Atlanta and we had a layover where they would not let us off.

So, normally I loathe people who use their phones on a plane, but I had to call the wife.

So I call her and sh asked me(keep in mind the convo is in Spanish) if I were going to be in time for my brother in law to grab me at the airport.  So I say in Spanish OJALA.

Which means God Willing, O Allah, but when the Moors were done banging Christopher Walken's grandma in Sicily, they trotted over to Spain to get some o dat ass.  So, needless to say, like many things in this world, there are a lot of Arabic leftovers that no one knows about.

So the old lady next to me gets up to go to the bathroom.

A little while later the stewardess comes to me and asks me to get my things.  I am puzzled.

Turns out the little old lady when to the flight crew and told them there was an Arab guy who was gonna hijack the plane.

So they moved me to first class.  Then she complained she should have moved me to first class.  I also got first class on the return flight.


Ojala sounds a lot like Ocala, and I have it on good authority that you're a bit of an...uh, authority on Ocala.
 
2020-11-24 11:47:25 PM  
The case emerged after Suda took a videoof the May 2018 interaction in which she asked Agent Paul O'Neill why he was questioning them.
"Ma'am, the reason I asked you for your ID is because I came in here and I saw that you guys are speaking Spanish, which is very unheard of up here," O'Neill said in the video. Suda and Hernandez had valid Montana drivers licenses.
O'Neill, and a supervisor who arrived later made it clear through words and actions that the women were not free to leave the convenience store parking lot, ACLU attorney Alex Rate wrote in the lawsuit.
After the settlement was reached, O'Neill returned to the dugout and slammed his batting helmet repeatedly against a Gatorade cooler, until Agent Bernie Williams was able to calm him down by playing a soothing jazz guitar solo.
 
2020-11-24 11:48:39 PM  

baronbloodbath: dkulprit: It added that the settlement "is in no way intended to be, and should not be construed as, an admission of liability or fault on the part of the United States, its agents, servants, or employees, and it is specifically denied that they are liable to the plaintiffs."

Translation:
We were going to be found guilty as fark and if we found guilty or admit guilt it can set a record of us violating people's constitutional rights and we will be behind on any future investigations both criminal and civil.

I guarantee the settlement was like $30,000 each, the lawyer gets a third ($10k) and they each get $20,000, which is like $12.5k after tax.

That is my car being paid off. Which ain't bad.

Being detained for 40 minutes ain't good, but I'd take 3 years of car payments for 40 minutes of inconvenience and a few hours with a lawyer.


Oh yeah.  Wouldn't turn down 20k for 20 minutes.
 
2020-11-24 11:48:47 PM  

vudukungfu: Pinche colos


Colos?  Culos.

Also, pluralize.  Pinches culos.

/The Mexican meaning of pinche, not the Spanish meaning
//It's an enhancer, like using "farking X" to enhance whatever 'X' is
///The Spanish meaning is "kitchen staff"
//// http://pinchestacos.com/ winks at the Spanish meaning.  OK tacos, though.  Try the Pinches Enchiladas
 
2020-11-24 11:50:27 PM  

dkulprit: baronbloodbath: dkulprit: It added that the settlement "is in no way intended to be, and should not be construed as, an admission of liability or fault on the part of the United States, its agents, servants, or employees, and it is specifically denied that they are liable to the plaintiffs."

Translation:
We were going to be found guilty as fark and if we found guilty or admit guilt it can set a record of us violating people's constitutional rights and we will be behind on any future investigations both criminal and civil.

I guarantee the settlement was like $30,000 each, the lawyer gets a third ($10k) and they each get $20,000, which is like $12.5k after tax.

That is my car being paid off. Which ain't bad.

Being detained for 40 minutes ain't good, but I'd take 3 years of car payments for 40 minutes of inconvenience and a few hours with a lawyer.

Oh yeah.  Wouldn't turn down 20k for 20 minutes.


Hell, Giuliani has to pretend to be a lawyer for a whole day to make $20K.
 
2020-11-24 11:50:32 PM  

baronbloodbath: dkulprit: It added that the settlement "is in no way intended to be, and should not be construed as, an admission of liability or fault on the part of the United States, its agents, servants, or employees, and it is specifically denied that they are liable to the plaintiffs."

Translation:
We were going to be found guilty as fark and if we found guilty or admit guilt it can set a record of us violating people's constitutional rights and we will be behind on any future investigations both criminal and civil.

I guarantee the settlement was like $30,000 each, the lawyer gets a third ($10k) and they each get $20,000, which is like $12.5k after tax.

That is my car being paid off. Which ain't bad.

Being detained for 40 minutes ain't good, but I'd take 3 years of car payments for 40 minutes of inconvenience and a few hours with a lawyer.


It ain't fun if you brown.

Second CSB of thread.

I was flying from Orlando to New Orleans about 20 years ago on a round trip flight i got for 100 bucks. Last minute, no plans to go, but could not pass it up.  It was my high school reunion weekend and the ex high school squeeze was flying in from Turkey and I was already in the states from Colombia, so I was all in.

The bad thing is the flight from Orlando went to Miami and then to Nola, but hey 100 bucks.

So I got to MIAMI for my three hour layover. I hammer a couple of Jack and Coke doubles and wrap my back pack strap around my leg and doze odd.

Oddly enough I am wearing Khakis, a Jack Daniels Tshirt, and a Saints Cap.

Next thing I know I am being hauled off into a room by force and am being questioned by two DEA agents.

Someone told them that a Latino with a back pack and a baseball cap had some american dollars he was trying to smuggle into Colombia.

They ask to see my ID, and unfortunately I open my wallet and my Colombian ID is up front, cause I just got back.

I told them if they checked my tickets I was on my way to NOLA for a high school reunion.  And I might have have asked them which one was Crocket and which one was Tubbs.

They let me go, apologized to me, because i said "I was the only latino in the airport with a backpack and a baseball cap, in the Miami Airport."  And I was dressed like farking Chet American man.
 
2020-11-24 11:52:12 PM  

baronbloodbath: theflatline: AllCatsAreBeautiful: vudukungfu: runwiz: Here's the plan:

Step 1: Travel to the area near the Canadian border in Montana (or Idaho, North Dakota)
Step 2:  Start speaking Spanish near a CBP officer
Step 3;  Profit

All the time.
Every chance I get.

I've tried this in multiple airports by speaking really loudly in Arabic.
/No dice.
//instead folks at the gate tried to make small talk with me instead...

CSB Time.

I was flying back to Colombia from the states and our plane got rerouted to Atlanta and we had a layover where they would not let us off.

So, normally I loathe people who use their phones on a plane, but I had to call the wife.

So I call her and sh asked me(keep in mind the convo is in Spanish) if I were going to be in time for my brother in law to grab me at the airport.  So I say in Spanish OJALA.

Which means God Willing, O Allah, but when the Moors were done banging Christopher Walken's grandma in Sicily, they trotted over to Spain to get some o dat ass.  So, needless to say, like many things in this world, there are a lot of Arabic leftovers that no one knows about.

So the old lady next to me gets up to go to the bathroom.

A little while later the stewardess comes to me and asks me to get my things.  I am puzzled.

Turns out the little old lady when to the flight crew and told them there was an Arab guy who was gonna hijack the plane.

So they moved me to first class.  Then she complained she should have moved me to first class.  I also got first class on the return flight.

Ojala sounds a lot like Ocala, and I have it on good authority that you're a bit of an...uh, authority on Ocala.


You get a funny for that.
 
2020-11-24 11:52:14 PM  

unbelver: vudukungfu: Pinche colos

Colos?  Culos.

Also, pluralize.  Pinches culos.

/The Mexican meaning of pinche, not the Spanish meaning
//It's an enhancer, like using "farking X" to enhance whatever 'X' is
///The Spanish meaning is "kitchen staff"
//// http://pinchestacos.com/ winks at the Spanish meaning.  OK tacos, though.  Try the Pinches Enchiladas


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2020-11-24 11:54:16 PM  
Quite sus...

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2020-11-24 11:56:22 PM  
Certain complexions of Chicanos get mistaken for Persian easily (and vice versa).  My dad has been mistaken for Iraqi by Iranians and Iranian by Iraqi.  People have come up to me speaking Farsi on several occasions, and my "WTF?" look usually clues them in that they have to speak English (or not Farsi, at least).

Fortunately, nobody at border crossing has given me crap.  Mainly because I learned both languages at the same time, my English doesn't have a Mexican accent and my Mexican doesn't have an English accent.
 
2020-11-24 11:57:15 PM  
But the USA has no official language.
The founding fathers did that by design since the USA is originally a county of immigrants and didn't wish to favor any one culture over another.   Trump's America is the antithesis of what America is meant to represent.
 
2020-11-25 12:01:30 AM  

baronbloodbath: dkulprit: It added that the settlement "is in no way intended to be, and should not be construed as, an admission of liability or fault on the part of the United States, its agents, servants, or employees, and it is specifically denied that they are liable to the plaintiffs."

Translation:
We were going to be found guilty as fark and if we found guilty or admit guilt it can set a record of us violating people's constitutional rights and we will be behind on any future investigations both criminal and civil.

I guarantee the settlement was like $30,000 each, the lawyer gets a third ($10k) and they each get $20,000, which is like $12.5k after tax.

That is my car being paid off. Which ain't bad.

Being detained for 40 minutes ain't good, but I'd take 3 years of car payments for 40 minutes of inconvenience and a few hours with a lawyer.


it was the ACLU so it may have been done pro bono. also it's a settlement which IIRC are tax free.
 
2020-11-25 12:02:12 AM  
Montaña is Spanish for mountain.
 
2020-11-25 12:06:29 AM  
Racists. Simply racists.
 
2020-11-25 12:09:45 AM  
In gathering information for the lawsuit, the ACLU said Customs and Border Protection agents in northern Montana acknowledged they routinely profiled non-white people.
"It is a small place and we have a lot of agents here and nobody really has much to do," an unnamed border protection supervisor told attorneys with the ACLU in a videotaped deposition.


"Slow day. Better go harass some minorities," said no decent human being ever.
 
2020-11-25 12:14:09 AM  

GypsyJoker: In gathering information for the lawsuit, the ACLU said Customs and Border Protection agents in northern Montana acknowledged they routinely profiled non-white people.
"It is a small place and we have a lot of agents here and nobody really has much to do," an unnamed border protection supervisor told attorneys with the ACLU in a videotaped deposition.

"Slow day. Better go harass some minorities," said no decent human being ever.


" Immigrants! That's all they do, you know - just drive around listening to raps and shooting all the jobs."


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2020-11-25 12:15:40 AM  

runwiz: Here's the plan:

Step 1: Travel to the area near the Canadian border in Montana (or Idaho, North Dakota)
Step 2:  Start speaking Spanish near a CBP officer
Step 3;  Profit


Gotta be a shade of brown for it to work.

Drew speaking Spanish at the border won't get him the money for new servers.
 
2020-11-25 12:17:07 AM  
So CPB (a) won't admit guilt, (b) won't say if or how the offending officer was disciplined or (c) even whether he's still employed by CPB, and (d) they refuse say how much of our money they have to spend to avoid losing the lawsuit in court.

Who the fark do these assholes work for?
 
2020-11-25 12:17:42 AM  

Curious: baronbloodbath: dkulprit: It added that the settlement "is in no way intended to be, and should not be construed as, an admission of liability or fault on the part of the United States, its agents, servants, or employees, and it is specifically denied that they are liable to the plaintiffs."

Translation:
We were going to be found guilty as fark and if we found guilty or admit guilt it can set a record of us violating people's constitutional rights and we will be behind on any future investigations both criminal and civil.

I guarantee the settlement was like $30,000 each, the lawyer gets a third ($10k) and they each get $20,000, which is like $12.5k after tax.

That is my car being paid off. Which ain't bad.

Being detained for 40 minutes ain't good, but I'd take 3 years of car payments for 40 minutes of inconvenience and a few hours with a lawyer.

it was the ACLU so it may have been done pro bono. also it's a settlement which IIRC are tax free.


Not anymore....

Trump's amazing tax plan now taxes it as earned income....  and they even double dip.  So you have to pay taxes on the portion that went to the lawyer too.  And then the lawyer has to pay taxes on that also.

Yeah, that amazing tax plan that helps the poor and Middle class.
 
2020-11-25 12:18:14 AM  

Snapper Carr: Samsquantch: As if I needed another reason not to go to Montana.

That and the recent run on dental floss make it less attractive.

/if you get this reference, I like you


C'mon, give us farmers some slack, man. This season it's down to just me & the pygmy pony over by the demtal floss bush.

Anyway, there are a lot of decent folk in MT, but there are also dumpster pits like Whitefish, whence can be found noted nazi shiathead Richard Spencer's hidey hole.
 
2020-11-25 12:20:22 AM  

unbelver: Certain complexions of Chicanos get mistaken for Persian easily (and vice versa).  My dad has been mistaken for Iraqi by Iranians and Iranian by Iraqi.  People have come up to me speaking Farsi on several occasions, and my "WTF?" look usually clues them in that they have to speak English (or not Farsi, at least).

Fortunately, nobody at border crossing has given me crap.  Mainly because I learned both languages at the same time, my English doesn't have a Mexican accent and my Mexican doesn't have an English accent.


My dad is croatian and scots irish, and HE gets mistaken for various middle eastern all the time.  It's so bizarre.  White boy turns purple in the summer.  Not just tan, though there's a lot of that, but his neck is literally purple.
 
2020-11-25 12:20:47 AM  

AllCatsAreBeautiful: vudukungfu: runwiz: Here's the plan:

Step 1: Travel to the area near the Canadian border in Montana (or Idaho, North Dakota)
Step 2:  Start speaking Spanish near a CBP officer
Step 3;  Profit

All the time.
Every chance I get.

I've tried this in multiple airports by speaking really loudly in Arabic.
/No dice.
//instead folks at the gate tried to make small talk with me instead...


These would certainly get some attention (not that I would ever do such a thing):

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2020-11-25 12:22:35 AM  

thedingoatemybaby: runwiz: Here's the plan:

Step 1: Travel to the area near the Canadian border in Montana (or Idaho, North Dakota)
Step 2:  Start speaking Spanish near a CBP officer
Step 3;  Profit

I see a fatal flaw in your plan. NOBODY goes to Montana, Idaho or North Dakota. I have never met anybody who actually even lives there.  I suspect there are no such places, that they are just a figment of the imagination created by Repubs to have 6 extra senators.


Word is getting out, despite the conspiracy by corrupt cartographers!
http://www.fantasymaps.com/stuff/idah​o​.html

/Spent many years in the territory that these so-called "maps" insist is "Idaho"
//I can confirm there's nothing there.
 
2020-11-25 12:23:13 AM  

a_room_with_a_moose: Snapper Carr: Samsquantch: As if I needed another reason not to go to Montana.

That and the recent run on dental floss make it less attractive.

/if you get this reference, I like you

I didn't get it, but my palomino pony did


Mighty little is such a good Hoss.
 
2020-11-25 12:27:09 AM  

dkulprit: Not anymore....

Trump's amazing tax plan now taxes it as earned income.... and they even double dip. So you have to pay taxes on the portion that went to the lawyer too. And then the lawyer has to pay taxes on that also.

Yeah, that amazing tax plan that helps the poor and Middle class.


well that really sucks. thanks for the info.
 
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