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2020-11-24 8:30:21 PM  
How about prison, prison, prison.
 
2020-11-24 8:35:33 PM  
The documents also describe the company trying to "supercharge" opioid sales in 2013, as reaction to the overdose crisis was taking a toll on prescribing.

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2020-11-24 8:57:19 PM  
Members of the wealthy Sackler family who own the company have also agreed to pay $225 million to the federal government to settle civil claims. No criminal charges have been filed against family members

This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2020-11-24 11:02:32 PM  
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Nice reference, Submitter. Thought it was a Trump story at first though.
 
2020-11-24 11:03:16 PM  
Unless you fine them more money than they made, it's completely pointless.
 
2020-11-25 1:46:46 AM  
I won't be at all surprised or upset if a grieving parent who lost a child to Oxy sees this complete miscarriage of justice and decides to take things into their own hands. The Sackler family is going to need to spend a nice chunk of that blood money hiring secret service level protection for a good while. When the courts fail the people eventually they will seek justice on their own.
 
2020-11-25 1:49:14 AM  
I always enjoy a good ol' "Guilty, guilty, GUILTY!"
 
2020-11-25 2:06:49 AM  
Hopefully that will spell doom for his runoff chances.
 
2020-11-25 2:16:30 AM  
Imagine, if you will. What if Purdue Pharma had come up with a 99% effective COVID-19 vaccine?

/your honor, we're changing our plea to Bend Over And Smooch Our Shiny Big Pharma Ass
 
2020-11-25 2:20:20 AM  
The guilty pleas were entered by Purdue board chairperson Steve Miller

Hopefully that joker won't just take the money and run.
 
2020-11-25 2:25:00 AM  
Don't act surprised when we find out later that the Sacklers owned the judges and the entire legal process the whole time and just plead guilty just to pay a $750 fine or something outrageous and then act penitent about it.
 
2020-11-25 2:36:05 AM  

skyotter: Unless you fine them more money than they made, it's completely pointless.


If you've learned nothing from the last *forever* let me reiterate - if you're going to commit crimes, go so big that even when you're inevitably caught there's no possible way you as one person can be made to pay in your one human lifetime for all the damage you've done.
 
2020-11-25 2:45:06 AM  
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And you will hang by the neck until you are dead, Dead, DEAD!

/ok, not really
//but it sounds like a stellar idea
 
2020-11-25 2:53:46 AM  
No Federal Pound Me In The Ass prison?
 
2020-11-25 2:59:55 AM  
Funny that a street corner heroin dealer can be sent up the river for life for getting people addicted
and/or selling the people the drugs that they used to kill themselves...OH, ya, but those are generally
brown people..So their crimes are 10 times worse, because some of the addicts are blonde white girls
from the suburbs..
 
2020-11-25 3:12:57 AM  
GUILTY!
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2020-11-25 3:15:13 AM  
Oh that's so awesome? Will they pay 4 seconds of profit or five seconds of profit? Because none of the sacklers will ever see jail time.
 
2020-11-25 3:50:08 AM  
FTFA: "Having our plea accepted in federal court, and taking responsibility for past misconduct, is an essential step to preserve billions of dollars of value" for the settlement it is pursuing through bankruptcy court, the company said in a statement.

WTF? 

Sure we did it, and this settlement luckily let's us get away with tons of profit we made, haha.  We preserved billions of dollars, share holders!  Yay us.
 
2020-11-25 4:00:10 AM  
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2020-11-25 4:09:57 AM  
They're getting off way too easy for destroying the lives or actually killing untold thousands of Americans.
 
2020-11-25 4:42:45 AM  

anuran: They're getting off way too easy for destroying the lives or actually killing untold thousands of Americans.


they bought their tickets

/they knew what they were getting into
 
2020-11-25 4:51:42 AM  
fark finding Purdue guilty. That's like taking a car to court over a hit and run.

Members of the wealthy Sackler family who own the company have also agreed to pay $225 million to the federal government to settle civil claims. No criminal charges have been filed against family members, although their deal leaves open the possibility of that in the future.

First off, the Sackler family has a net worth of approximately 13 billion. $225M is a speeding ticket. Second, I'm not holding my breath for that last part, but if it does happen, well I might smile a little.
 
2020-11-25 4:58:54 AM  

MrSplifferton: FTFA: "Having our plea accepted in federal court, and taking responsibility for past misconduct, is an essential step to preserve billions of dollars of value" for the settlement it is pursuing through bankruptcy court, the company said in a statement.

WTF?

Sure we did it, and this settlement luckily let's us get away with tons of profit we made, haha.  We preserved billions of dollars, share holders!  Yay us.


They're in bankruptcy and facing a shiatload of other people who want a piece of their ass, plus a proposal to turn them into a public trust corp if they don't get sold for parts first. This is just saying that no one else is going to get any blood from that stone if the feds squeeze it dry first. It's not talking about preserving value for the owners. Who will be lucky if they have only a few billions clawed back from them.
 
2020-11-25 5:06:05 AM  
Oh, okay, cool. My friends Ashley and Alexa are still dead though.
 
2020-11-25 5:42:29 AM  
"We take complete and total responsibility for a 25 year criminal conspiracy that killed 218,000 Americans and netted $40 billion, as long as nobody is punished, except paying $½ billion to the lawyers of victims and their estates, and giving OxyContin coupons to survivors and families of the deceased."
 
2020-11-25 5:44:03 AM  
And sack the doctors who fell for the late night TV snake oil.

" It also admitted paying doctors through a speakers program to induce them to write more prescriptions for its painkillers. "
 
2020-11-25 5:48:49 AM  
"If the penalty for a crime is a fine, that law only deters poor people."

/reminds me of the bank a few years ago
//laundered money for terrorists, among other things
/// fined nearly a month's profits
 
2020-11-25 6:15:06 AM  
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2020-11-25 6:30:30 AM  

Therion: Members of the wealthy Sackler family who own the company have also agreed to pay $225 million to the federal government to settle civil claims. No criminal charges have been filed against family members

This is why we can't have nice things.


So they took billions from the company before this judgement, agree to 'generously' pay 225m of that back and get no criminal charges.

This is precisely why this exact thing will happen again and again.
 
2020-11-25 6:35:59 AM  
Grind them to dust and charge the board for negligent homicide and anything else they can personally pin on them.
 
2020-11-25 6:39:40 AM  

robodog: I won't be at all surprised or upset if a grieving parent who lost a child to Oxy sees this complete miscarriage of justice and decides to take things into their own hands. The Sackler family is going to need to spend a nice chunk of that blood money hiring secret service level protection for a good while. When the courts fail the people eventually they will seek justice on their own.


Most people couldn't pick them out in a crowd.
 
2020-11-25 6:59:33 AM  

Nullav: fark finding Purdue guilty. That's like taking a car to court over a hit and run.


There is precendent.
 
2020-11-25 7:10:22 AM  

bfh0417: robodog: I won't be at all surprised or upset if a grieving parent who lost a child to Oxy sees this complete miscarriage of justice and decides to take things into their own hands. The Sackler family is going to need to spend a nice chunk of that blood money hiring secret service level protection for a good while. When the courts fail the people eventually they will seek justice on their own.

Most people couldn't pick them out in a crowd.


If only there were some way to find out what they look like.  Damn billionaires and their anonymity.
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Also, I vote for locking the doors on their mansions and burning them down.
 
2020-11-25 7:12:45 AM  
Nothing spiffy about this. A company that make jillions gets fined pennies and those really responsible relax in their 47 room beach homes. It's f*cking sad is what it is.
 
2020-11-25 7:27:07 AM  
The point of a corporation is to protect its shareholders. Looks like it did exactly that.
 
2020-11-25 7:34:50 AM  

ImmutableTenderloin: The point of a corporation is to protect its shareholders. Looks like it did exactly that.


That's a very recent and American view of a corporation. In many other countries, the stakeholders are just as important as the shareholders.

The stakeholders are the workers, the consumers, the neighboring community, the environment, and so on. Everyone who a company affects.
 
2020-11-25 7:46:13 AM  

Skeleton Man: Oh, okay, cool. My friends Ashley and Alexa are still dead though.


username checks out.


/too soon?
 
2020-11-25 7:50:43 AM  
Cutting a deal while the Trump admin is still around to help them out.
 
2020-11-25 8:07:13 AM  
I like the fact that there's a drug out there specifically designed to combat the constipation an opioid user gets when they take oxy.

Now, that takes the cake.
 
2020-11-25 8:08:16 AM  
Could someone explain to me how a corporation is found guilty of criminal charges?

I mean, sure, corporations are people, my friends, but where are you going to find a jail large enough to imprison them?
 
2020-11-25 8:23:27 AM  

BunkyBrewman: Could someone explain to me how a corporation is found guilty of criminal charges?


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"well first, you start a corporation and then they do something really really bad, and they get caught"

"next week we'll tell you how to build box garter bridges"
 
2020-11-25 8:52:31 AM  
The program to influence doctors, including payments to doctors, explains a lot. In the last 10 years, I've had at least three doctors offer me opioids as though they were offering me a glass of water. An emergency room doctor assured me that "modern opioids aren't addictive as long as they are taken as directed." Thankfully, I declined the offer each time.

These Sackler farkers need something very, very bad to happen to them.
 
2020-11-25 8:52:46 AM  

Madman drummers bummers: The guilty pleas were entered by Purdue board chairperson Steve Miller

Hopefully that joker won't just take the money and run.


Hey, there is always Billy Mack, a detective down in Texas. You know he knows just exactly what the facts is.
 
2020-11-25 8:55:35 AM  
...so you're saying I can commit any crime and get only a fine that's less than 10% of the profit I made from the damages I caused and all I have to do is create a company?  Clearly I've been doing it wrong my entire life.
 
2020-11-25 8:58:38 AM  

The Magical Flying Cow Turd: Hey, there is always Billy Mack, a detective down in Texas. You know he knows just exactly what the facts is.


why the hell do I all of a sudden hear 5 quick claps in a row?
 
2020-11-25 8:58:54 AM  
fines instead of jail time is just separation of classes.  Rich can pay the fine, poor cannot.

Time to rise up and....what's on Netflix?
 
2020-11-25 8:59:35 AM  

skyotter: Unless you fine them more money than they made, it's completely pointless.


Honestly, the law should be '$x dollar amount in fines and forfeit of any resulting profit'
 
2020-11-25 9:00:19 AM  

Mr.Uncle.Bill: what's on Netflix?


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2020-11-25 9:10:18 AM  

Madman drummers bummers: The guilty pleas were entered by Purdue board chairperson Steve Miller

Hopefully that joker won't just take the money and run.


Some people call him the drug dealer of looove.
 
2020-11-25 9:17:47 AM  

PunGent: "If the penalty for a crime is a fine, that law only deters poor people."

/reminds me of the bank a few years ago
//laundered money for terrorists, among other things
/// fined nearly a month's profits


This, in a nutshell, is the root of a great deal of our problems.
If people and corporations will not do the right thing because it gets in the way of maximum profits, then a fine is just a business expense.
If there are no criminal charges out of this depraved indifference, then there is no incentive NOT to just do it again.
 
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