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2020-11-24 4:39:18 PM  
Can't be cancelled if you cancel yourself?

I didn't realize you could pull your show from syndication once you signed off on the contract. Bet it helps when you pay Netflix's bills.
 
2020-11-24 4:41:54 PM  
powerful DC
 
2020-11-24 4:48:04 PM  
He talked about it on the SNL he hosted after election night. Makes sense that Netflix would pull it, I doubt that many people are signing up to watch a 15 year old sketch comedy show and keeping Chappelle happy and releasing his standup specials on Netflix is far more valuable.
 
2020-11-24 5:56:37 PM  
I have not watched The Chappelle Show since it originally aired on CC, so I am doing my part.
 
2020-11-24 6:01:30 PM  
Socially raw and always on point.

Go get em Dave.
 
2020-11-24 6:01:41 PM  
Did Dave evervreturn the money after he quit during season 3?
 
2020-11-24 6:32:23 PM  
This cleared things up a bit.  After everything that happened back then, I kinda figured Dave had nothing to do with bringing it back.
 
2020-11-24 6:34:14 PM  
Done
 
2020-11-24 6:51:51 PM  

Wanebo: Socially raw and always on point.

Go get em Dave.


What's that?  Signing a contract and then biatching about it?

I'd love to know what Netflix did wrong here.

He's a whiner like Taylor Swift.
 
2020-11-24 7:02:32 PM  

scotchcrotch: Wanebo: Socially raw and always on point.

Go get em Dave.

What's that?  Signing a contract and then biatching about it?

I'd love to know what Netflix did wrong here.

He's a whiner like Taylor Swift.


Taylor Swift has more legitimate gripe about her catalog than Dave Chappelle does. Was it Def Leppard who re-recorded their first albums, note for note, as exactly as possibly, simply to beat a bad record contract?
 
2020-11-24 7:13:43 PM  

scotchcrotch: Wanebo: Socially raw and always on point.

Go get em Dave.

What's that?  Signing a contract and then biatching about it?

I'd love to know what Netflix did wrong here.

He's a whiner like Taylor Swift.


Taylor got legitimately farked over by her label. Dave saw the massive amounts of money and glossed over the contract when he signed it.

Mayyyyybe you could say that he gets a pass because he didn't see streaming coming when he signed it 15 years ago, but he's really only doing it because he knows Netflix will listen. He's one of maybe ten comedians that can do it, and he's taking advantage of that power.
 
2020-11-24 7:17:08 PM  
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2020-11-24 7:19:23 PM  
I get that he's pissed he's not seeing any money from the Chappelle Show streaming deals. However, he also broke the contract and just peaced on out when he was on the hook for more content, and I'm sure that cost the parent company some money as well. No one in this situation is necessarily hurting for cash, mind you, but still. The whole situation is just hurt feelings all around. Also, I'm pretty sure HBO Max just picked it up as well.

In the end, read what you sign, because it can and will fark you over.
 
2020-11-24 7:22:05 PM  
If Dave has been screwed over, and not paid, is it still wrong to pirate Chappelle's Show?  Asking for a friend.
 
2020-11-24 7:23:25 PM  
Chapelle is edging toward really angry.  Certainly on point, I just hope he can compose himself enough to stay relevant and continue to say the things he says with a punchline.
I'd guess the election helped.
 
2020-11-24 7:35:12 PM  
Well, hopefully he can break even on what little he has remaining.
 
2020-11-24 7:44:44 PM  

AnotherBluesStringer: I get that he's pissed he's not seeing any money from the Chappelle Show streaming deals. However, he also broke the contract and just peaced on out when he was on the hook for more content, and I'm sure that cost the parent company some money as well. No one in this situation is necessarily hurting for cash, mind you, but still. The whole situation is just hurt feelings all around. Also, I'm pretty sure HBO Max just picked it up as well.

In the end, read what you sign, because it can and will fark you over.


He says in TFA that he has no recourse as far as streaming on Comedy Central or HBO Max, but since he has a working relationship with Netflix, he just asked them not to join in.

Considering Netflix could become a permanent home for Chappelle's comedy specials, like HBO was for Carlin, Netflix just pulled the show to keep everybody happy.

It reminds me of when Stanley Kubrick asked Warner Brothers to pull Clockwork Orange from the UK in 1972. He knew he wasn't going to stop it playing in theaters and later home video and pay-TV everywhere else, and Warners had no intention of doing so, but Warners agreed to pull it in the UK to keep Kubrick happy and making movies for them for the rest of his life.
 
2020-11-24 7:45:21 PM  

scotchcrotch: Wanebo: Socially raw and always on point.

Go get em Dave.

What's that?  Signing a contract and then biatching about it?

I'd love to know what Netflix did wrong here.

He's a whiner like Taylor Swift.


And that's how we knew you did not read TFA.
 
2020-11-24 7:52:19 PM  
Have at it.  I've had the box set for 10+ years anyway.
 
2020-11-24 8:12:44 PM  

AnotherBluesStringer: I get that he's pissed he's not seeing any money from the Chappelle Show streaming deals. However, he also broke the contract and just peaced on out when he was on the hook for more content, and I'm sure that cost the parent company some money as well. No one in this situation is necessarily hurting for cash, mind you, but still. The whole situation is just hurt feelings all around. Also, I'm pretty sure HBO Max just picked it up as well.

In the end, read what you sign, because it can and will fark you over.


While all of that is true, there is a lot of nuance to this. 

First of all, Chappelle was the executive producer, that means "wallet" in the majority of cases (either directly as the wallet, or finding the money). He was also writer and director. He was a young kid with no real experience in TV/Movie contracts and got fleeced for it. He, for example, didn't retain any rights to his works (as evidenced by their syndication). Thus he makes no money for it, and when he breached his contract, he lost all that money too. He never got the $100M. Instead the production company essentially owns his intellectual property outright. He has no control over it in any sense anymore.

He's right, that is a bullshiat thing to happen. One would think that in a contract like that, should the artist not get paid, there would be some dissolution of rights over the property. Maybe neither could re-air it for funds for example. 

Not like Hollywood hasn't done this before to others...
 
2020-11-24 8:25:34 PM  
Suits me fine. I'll just pick up the rest of the DVDs used and support a retailer without Comedy Central making another cent off of it.

Besides, the most important Chappelle stuff is what he's doing right now.
 
2020-11-24 8:26:50 PM  

phimuskapsi: AnotherBluesStringer: I get that he's pissed he's not seeing any money from the Chappelle Show streaming deals. However, he also broke the contract and just peaced on out when he was on the hook for more content, and I'm sure that cost the parent company some money as well. No one in this situation is necessarily hurting for cash, mind you, but still. The whole situation is just hurt feelings all around. Also, I'm pretty sure HBO Max just picked it up as well.

In the end, read what you sign, because it can and will fark you over.

While all of that is true, there is a lot of nuance to this. 

First of all, Chappelle was the executive producer, that means "wallet" in the majority of cases (either directly as the wallet, or finding the money). He was also writer and director. He was a young kid with no real experience in TV/Movie contracts and got fleeced for it. He, for example, didn't retain any rights to his works (as evidenced by their syndication). Thus he makes no money for it, and when he breached his contract, he lost all that money too. He never got the $100M. Instead the production company essentially owns his intellectual property outright. He has no control over it in any sense anymore.

He's right, that is a bullshiat thing to happen. One would think that in a contract like that, should the artist not get paid, there would be some dissolution of rights over the property. Maybe neither could re-air it for funds for example. 

Not like Hollywood hasn't done this before to others...


So much this!!!! Others upthread think he's whining. Like he wants some sort of do-over. Nope. I watched the video attached (a rarity of Fark, I know). He clearly knows what HBO is doing is legal. He doesn't question that. He asked the audience to NOT WATCH IT. And asked Netflix to pull it. Well, as he says: "I told them it made me feel bad". So they pulled it. Of course Netflix would to keep him happy for future content (read: $).
He's trying to turn the tables on media corporations.
I say more power to him.
 
2020-11-24 8:36:19 PM  
Wonder what that cost NetFlix...
 
2020-11-24 8:40:18 PM  

Trik: Wonder what that cost NetFlix...


They might have to cancel two more popular shows after the second season.
 
2020-11-24 8:53:29 PM  

Trik: Wonder what that cost NetFlix...


Pocket change at best.
 
2020-11-24 9:04:38 PM  

The Flexecutioner: Trik: Wonder what that cost NetFlix...

Pocket change at best.


And not just to earn a ton of good will from Chappelle, who is already a valued partner. But I expect a lot of other artists who feel, usually correctly, that they have been pushed into a bad deal or been exploited by the fine print of a contract, will probably have a more favorable attitude about working with/for Netflix in future projects.

I'm a bit torn - I didn't realize he was Actually Upset, though I've heard enough about entertainment to recognize exactly what he was talking about in the SNL joke. shiatting on the deal may be deserved, but I was under the impression that after season 1, he did get handsomely paid and could have gotten a shiatload more with even one more season.

But it's hard to sympathize with the corporation - and the fact that Dave is not hurting for money shouldn't matter. They've farked over plenty of one-hit wonders who will never have the platform someone like DC does to point out the shiatty deal.
 
2020-11-24 9:09:45 PM  

phimuskapsi: First of all, Chappelle was the executive producer, that means "wallet" in the majority of cases (either directly as the wallet, or finding the money).


The role of executive producer can certainly mean that, but it frequently doesn't. In the case of Chappelle, the EP role was equivalent to what is commonly referred to as showrunner these days. In all likelihood he had very little or nothing to do with the financial side of the production.

Not that I disagree with him on this though.
 
2020-11-24 9:24:09 PM  

Weatherkiss: Trik: Wonder what that cost NetFlix...

They might have to cancel two more popular shows after the second season.


So... nothing?

/they were gonna cancel those shows after two seasons  anyway!
 
2020-11-24 9:25:25 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Weatherkiss: Trik: Wonder what that cost NetFlix...

They might have to cancel two more popular shows after the second season.

So... nothing?

/they were gonna cancel those shows after two seasons  anyway!


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2020-11-24 9:26:59 PM  
Yawn.
 
2020-11-24 10:04:37 PM  

phimuskapsi: First of all, Chappelle was the executive producer, that means "wallet" in the majority of cases (either directly as the wallet, or finding the money).


Dave and Neal Brennan were listed as Executive Producers because they were the show creators and show runners. Their other EP secured the budget, but their role was to exercise creative control over the show (hiring actors and writers, approving scripts and sketches, signing off on the editing, how the show was promoted, etc.)
Much like how Stone and Parker have always been listed as EPs on South Park, even though when that show started, they didn't have a pot to piss in.

As for the Wallet, Comedy Central/Viacom were the wallet, thus why they have always and still own the show. Dave forfeited his piece of the syndication pie when he quit. Most shows have to hit a certain amount of episodes to hit the big syndication payday for the creators and stars, and Chappelle's Show didn't even get close to that.
 
2020-11-24 11:04:48 PM  

bfh0417: Yawn.


The only reason I haven't blocked you is that a few months ago you were actually somewhat creative in your trolling. I'm a big fan of debates, arguments, and stress testing out theories. I KNOW I'm not right all the time and welcome people to call me out on my bullshiat.
You are getting lazy.
Yawn.
 
2020-11-25 12:31:03 AM  
Yeah, fark the fans.  It's more important to indulge the grasping heart of a rich man.

Hurting the company is more important to him than giving old, and potentially some new, fans a smile?
He's forgotten that having an audience is a privilege you shouldn't take for granted.
I wonder how many old music legends that have their legacies suppressed on YouTube, for example, will be forgotten all the more quickly as a result.

He'd be better off realizing maximizing your reach and impact is not the study of weather, but climate.
Dude's on point about a lot of shiat, but he's not right 24/7.

/He needs to learn to let it go and move on, sheesh.
//I remember the petty whining on the SNL monologue over his rural noise complaint feud.
///It *got good* quickly enough after, but I can do without the first world problem martyr complex from a guy w a net worth of fifty million dollars.
 
2020-11-25 1:32:50 AM  

Gr3asy: Yeah, fark the fans.  It's more important to indulge the grasping heart of a rich man.

Hurting the company is more important to him than giving old, and potentially some new, fans a smile?
He's forgotten that having an audience is a privilege you shouldn't take for granted.
I wonder how many old music legends that have their legacies suppressed on YouTube, for example, will be forgotten all the more quickly as a result.

He'd be better off realizing maximizing your reach and impact is not the study of weather, but climate.
Dude's on point about a lot of shiat, but he's not right 24/7.

/He needs to learn to let it go and move on, sheesh.
//I remember the petty whining on the SNL monologue over his rural noise complaint feud.
///It *got good* quickly enough after, but I can do without the first world problem martyr complex from a guy w a net worth of fifty million dollars.


Know how I didn't watch the video?

He specifically said that the fans are essentially his boss. He's asking them to boycott him, not to boycott the company or the show.
 
2020-11-25 1:33:18 AM  

phimuskapsi: Know how I didn't watch the video?


Know how I know you didn't watch the video.

Want to know how tired I am? lol. Oops.
 
2020-11-25 2:49:36 AM  
He and Taylor should do a special where they complain about the continuous bad business deals they made long after they were in a position to read contracts.
 
2020-11-25 5:39:23 AM  
When i saw it on there, I was thinking "why in the word would Viacom put that on a rival service". I know they put each other shows on rival streaming platforms, but why would they do that so close to their CBS access/Viacom relaunch.
 
2020-11-25 5:39:40 AM  

BadReligion: I have not watched The Chappelle Show since it originally aired on CC, so I am doing my part.


Same here, but having watched it on Netflix, if you haven't seen it uncut, you haven't truly seen it.
 
2020-11-25 7:28:50 AM  
Keep your pimp hand strong Dave.
 
2020-11-25 8:03:04 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: Did Dave evervreturn the money after he quit during season 3?


I suggest you watch the video. He is a good story teller. If you don't want to watch, here is a TL;DW

Dave: When I was a kid I lost my last dollars to 3 card monte hustlers. I was took in and found out all the people were working together to pull in victims.. I caused a fuss and the guy got mad and told me to not get between a man and his money. It happened a few more times in my life.

A little older I signed a bad deal for the show because I needed the money. I offered it to HBO and they said "what do we need you for".

I walked away from the show because I didn't want to do it anymore. They called me crazy, that I smoked crack! They haven't paid me a dime. (He said before he never got the 50 mil)

Now its streaming on Netflix and HBO. I signed a contract so there is nothing I can do. They own my likeness and name, like Prince's situation.

I asked my agent if there was anything I can do and he said no, so fark em. I have a relationship with Netflix, so I asked them directly to take the show off because it hurts my feelings to not control my name and face. They said ok. Thats why I fark with Netflix.

Please boycott me, not HBO, not Viacom. This is the way Hollywood works. They have contracts and any lawyers you get are part of te 3 card monte crew. Its all a hustle. Boycott my show please unless comedy central pays me. Because you don't want to get between a man and his money.
 
2020-11-25 8:04:05 AM  
Oh, look, another rich asshole butthurt because they regretted the deal THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED.

And considering he WILLINGLY walked away from like a hundred million dollars to not continue the show after he'd already signed the contract, frankly, he's lucky they didn't sue him into the toilet.  Because they most likely could have.
 
2020-11-25 8:14:48 AM  

AnotherBluesStringer: I get that he's pissed he's not seeing any money from the Chappelle Show streaming deals. However, he also broke the contract and just peaced on out when he was on the hook for more content, and I'm sure that cost the parent company some money as well. No one in this situation is necessarily hurting for cash, mind you, but still. The whole situation is just hurt feelings all around. Also, I'm pretty sure HBO Max just picked it up as well.

In the end, read what you sign, because it can and will fark you over.


Student loans come to mind.

/And I am agreeing with you
 
2020-11-25 9:10:17 AM  

jake3988: Oh, look, another rich asshole butthurt because they regretted the deal THEY WILLINGLY SIGNED.

And considering he WILLINGLY walked away from like a hundred million dollars to not continue the show after he'd already signed the contract, frankly, he's lucky they didn't sue him into the toilet.  Because they most likely could have.


That's not how Fark works.

If the group consensus is that the artist is talented, they're allowed to do that.

If the group doesn't like the talent, they're not allowed to do anything, much less be relevant.

The Fark consensus tide comes and goes, if you're confused which way it's currently headed ask Whidbey.
 
2020-11-25 9:31:01 AM  

phimuskapsi: He was a young kid with no real experience in TV/Movie contracts and got fleeced for it.


When he started Chapelle's Show, he was 28, had been working as a standup for 10 years, had numerous guest shots on TV shows and movies, and co-written a hit film (Half Baked). He was not some naive teenager like Prince - he know how the business worked.
 
2020-11-25 9:36:50 AM  

puckrock2000: phimuskapsi: He was a young kid with no real experience in TV/Movie contracts and got fleeced for it.

When he started Chapelle's Show, he was 28, had been working as a standup for 10 years, had numerous guest shots on TV shows and movies, and co-written a hit film (Half Baked). He was not some naive teenager like Prince - he know how the business worked.


He said in the video, "I was desperate, I didn't have a lot of money". Half Baked didn't make a ton of money, and given that he was relatively unknown at the time, it would be unlikely that he made a decent amount off of it. 

Running a show is a far different animal than being an actor in a show. I would compare it to putting out an album, and the recording industry is full of predatory contracts (as Hollywood is as well).
 
2020-11-25 10:32:13 AM  

phimuskapsi: AnotherBluesStringer: I get that he's pissed he's not seeing any money from the Chappelle Show streaming deals. However, he also broke the contract and just peaced on out when he was on the hook for more content, and I'm sure that cost the parent company some money as well. No one in this situation is necessarily hurting for cash, mind you, but still. The whole situation is just hurt feelings all around. Also, I'm pretty sure HBO Max just picked it up as well.

In the end, read what you sign, because it can and will fark you over.

While all of that is true, there is a lot of nuance to this. 

First of all, Chappelle was the executive producer, that means "wallet" in the majority of cases (either directly as the wallet, or finding the money). He was also writer and director. He was a young kid with no real experience in TV/Movie contracts and got fleeced for it. He, for example, didn't retain any rights to his works (as evidenced by their syndication). Thus he makes no money for it, and when he breached his contract, he lost all that money too. He never got the $100M. Instead the production company essentially owns his intellectual property outright. He has no control over it in any sense anymore.

He's right, that is a bullshiat thing to happen. One would think that in a contract like that, should the artist not get paid, there would be some dissolution of rights over the property. Maybe neither could re-air it for funds for example. 

Not like Hollywood hasn't done this before to others...


You sign a contract agreeing that a company has rights to your product, they have rights to your product. When you abandon thr company, you don't get to take the product you designed with you. You are free to develop new products, but not the old ones. Where he really messed up was agreeing to a clause to not be paid for the work already done, or a percentage of sales of the existing product regardless of whether or not he produces new product.
 
2020-11-25 11:14:36 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: Chapelle is edging toward really angry.  Certainly on point, I just hope he can compose himself enough to stay relevant and continue to say the things he says with a punchline.
I'd guess the election helped.


He's mostly a grievance comic now. Old, wealthy, and angry for...reasons. (See also: Jerry Seinfeld).
biatch, nobody is "cancelling" you, you are getting paid more and everything you say gets covered yet you can seem to STFU about it.

Aaaaanyhoo, that said, he's got a legitimate issue and got Netflix to act, hope it helps others.
 
2020-11-25 12:09:33 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: You sign a contract agreeing that a company has rights to your product, they have rights to your product. When you abandon thr company, you don't get to take the product you designed with you. You are free to develop new products, but not the old ones. Where he really messed up was agreeing to a clause to not be paid for the work already done, or a percentage of sales of the existing product regardless of whether or not he produces new product.


He could never have dreamed to be in a better position negotiation wise.  This and South Park (at the time) were the two shows that were biggest for CC.  The South Park guys were able to get beyond rich negotiating with CC and Dave couldn't.  That's on him.

Bslim: Aaaaanyhoo, that said, he's got a legitimate issue and got Netflix to act, hope it helps others.


He didn't/doesn't have a legit issue.  He left a huge hole in a network's future plans because he walked out on a signed deal.  He can't expect Comedy Central to just be, "we're cool now, here's the rights to your old stuff."
 
2020-11-25 12:53:40 PM  

stoli n coke: phimuskapsi: First of all, Chappelle was the executive producer, that means "wallet" in the majority of cases (either directly as the wallet, or finding the money).

Dave and Neal Brennan were listed as Executive Producers because they were the show creators and show runners. Their other EP secured the budget, but their role was to exercise creative control over the show (hiring actors and writers, approving scripts and sketches, signing off on the editing, how the show was promoted, etc.)
Much like how Stone and Parker have always been listed as EPs on South Park, even though when that show started, they didn't have a pot to piss in.

As for the Wallet, Comedy Central/Viacom were the wallet, thus why they have always and still own the show. Dave forfeited his piece of the syndication pie when he quit. Most shows have to hit a certain amount of episodes to hit the big syndication payday for the creators and stars, and Chappelle's Show didn't even get close to that.


That's pretty much how it works. Chapelle and Brennan's production company was subcontracted by CC to create and deliver finished episodes of the show. They would have been advanced a certain amount of money to begin production with additional payments released upon successful delivery of finished episodes. CC paid for promotion and marketing and had to eat those costs when Dave did a runner.
 
2020-11-25 1:45:56 PM  
He's just not funny
 
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