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(CNN)   Even though they make up only 4% of the workforce, a third of the nurses dying of COVID are Filipino   (cnn.com) divider line
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2020-11-24 4:38:24 PM  
I don't know about "weird" so much as sad. TFA said Filipino nurses have been heavily recruited over the years and are in roles that tend to be most exposed.
 
2020-11-24 6:22:54 PM  
We pay the worst people the most money and the real people we need get nothing. The people who actually keep our lives running need to be treated like the important people that they are. And it's all the "little people", they're the most important ones. The bus driver, the librarian, the person stocking the shelves, the teacher, the nurse.

I'm going to die a grumpy socialist it seems.
 
2020-11-24 7:35:51 PM  
This is because they work like maniacs is crappy jobs lazier people don't want.
 
2020-11-24 7:36:43 PM  
They're running amok!
 
2020-11-24 7:45:36 PM  
That's a pretty horrific statistic. Good thing it's just like a cold or a mild flu. The families of the dead must feel real relief at that.
 
2020-11-24 7:48:01 PM  
So maybe try out some of those lovely new vaccines on them to see if it protects them as well as it does everyone else.
 
2020-11-24 7:49:08 PM  

hissatsu: That's a pretty horrific statistic. Good thing it's just like a cold or a mild flu. The families of the dead must feel real relief at that.


When next summer comes the heat will kill it.
 
2020-11-24 7:54:47 PM  
Wait, the O is considered masculine. Shouldn't it be FilipinX?

(I just want to hear people talk too fast and mispronounce that)
 
2020-11-24 8:02:19 PM  

cyberspacedout: Wait, the O is considered masculine. Shouldn't it be FilipinX?

(I just want to hear people talk too fast and mispronounce that)


So fi-li-peen-ex or is fi-li-pinks
 
2020-11-24 8:11:33 PM  
If my well thought out hypothesis is correct, someone from Holland should mate with a Filipino and their kid would be a Hollapiño, thus having supreme immunity!
 
2020-11-24 8:19:28 PM  

Barfmaker: We pay the worst people the most money and the real people we need get nothing. The people who actually keep our lives running need to be treated like the important people that they are. And it's all the "little people", they're the most important ones. The bus driver, the librarian, the person stocking the shelves, the teacher, the nurse.

I'm going to die a grumpy socialist it seems.


"The dignity of labor" is a thing that's long needed a big comeback
 
2020-11-24 8:28:37 PM  
Because they work the hardest, at the worst workplaces, with little support or supplies.
 
2020-11-24 8:29:05 PM  
Large familial units. Move along, salamat po
 
2020-11-24 8:29:09 PM  
Like many diseases some people will be genetically more resistant or more susceptible to covid.

Some people can walk maskless through a covid ward letting everyone cough on them and never catch it.
While others inhale one viri and it'll put them in the ground.
 
2020-11-24 8:35:55 PM  

Barfmaker: I'm going to die a grumpy socialist it seems.


Right? How weird is that. I thought we were supposed to be young and leftist and then old and conservative.

But, we flipped that.
 
2020-11-24 8:39:52 PM  

The Devil's Bartender: If my well thought out hypothesis is correct, someone from Holland should mate with a Filipino and their kid would be a Hollapiño, thus having supreme immunity!


They will also be hot.
 
2020-11-24 8:51:02 PM  

beezeltown: I don't know about "weird" so much as sad. TFA said Filipino nurses have been heavily recruited over the years and are in roles that tend to be most exposed.


That, and as a rule, the vast majority of them grew up in heavily polluted areas, and likely have preexisting respiratory issues as a result.
 
2020-11-24 8:52:53 PM  
Sad. The word is sad.
 
2020-11-24 8:56:51 PM  

mrparks: Barfmaker: I'm going to die a grumpy socialist it seems.

Right? How weird is that. I thought we were supposed to be young and leftist and then old and conservative.

But, we flipped that.


That saying also implies that you are stupid if you are compassionate when you are old(er). Like you guys/gals, I've become far more "liberal" the last several years. Hell, I had a freakin' W sticker on my car many years ago. WTF was I thinking? (I know, I wasn't)

Much of the best care you will get in the hospital and nursing home is provided by Hispanic, phillipino, etc. people. And they usually get stuck with worst parts. God love them.
 
2020-11-24 8:57:04 PM  

ToughActinProlactin: The Devil's Bartender: If my well thought out hypothesis is correct, someone from Holland should mate with a Filipino and their kid would be a Hollapiño, thus having supreme immunity!

They will also be hot.


I'd like to see that, wooden shoe?
 
2020-11-24 9:04:59 PM  
We can thank 2020 for the adorable dumpster fire toy. Just perfect for your lil' pyromaniac
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2020-11-24 9:07:19 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: This is because they work like maniacs is crappy jobs lazier people don't want.


Are they forced too?
 
2020-11-24 9:09:46 PM  

gottagopee: Barfmaker: We pay the worst people the most money and the real people we need get nothing. The people who actually keep our lives running need to be treated like the important people that they are. And it's all the "little people", they're the most important ones. The bus driver, the librarian, the person stocking the shelves, the teacher, the nurse.

I'm going to die a grumpy socialist it seems.

"The dignity of labor" is a thing that's long needed a big comeback


Yep, pay them all $100,00.00. lol. Not every nurse is a God. Some just empty bed pans and rewrap bandages.
 
2020-11-24 9:11:17 PM  

Trik: Like many diseases some people will be genetically more resistant or more susceptible to covid.

Some people can walk maskless through a covid ward letting everyone cough on them and never catch it.
While others inhale one viri and it'll put them in the ground.


You be quiet! Fark says they are being abused, mistreated, and unfairly treated because, well, that's all Fark does.
 
2020-11-24 9:29:57 PM  

bfh0417: gottagopee: Barfmaker: We pay the worst people the most money and the real people we need get nothing. The people who actually keep our lives running need to be treated like the important people that they are. And it's all the "little people", they're the most important ones. The bus driver, the librarian, the person stocking the shelves, the teacher, the nurse.

I'm going to die a grumpy socialist it seems.

"The dignity of labor" is a thing that's long needed a big comeback

Yep, pay them all $100,00.00. lol. Not every nurse is a God. Some just empty bed pans and rewrap bandages.


You'll change your tune when you are one needing a bed pan and your ass wiped. I sort of hope no one will help you. You come across as a real jackass.
 
2020-11-24 9:57:27 PM  

beezeltown: I don't know about "weird" so much as sad. TFA said Filipino nurses have been heavily recruited over the years and are in roles that tend to be most exposed.


Some of these knee jerk comments are sad... these workers are great examples of the American spirit (yes, American) and should be honored accordingly without the jokes or sarcasm. Thank you nurses for your dedication.
 
2020-11-24 10:12:28 PM  

Trik: Like many diseases some people will be genetically more resistant or more susceptible to covid.

Some people can walk maskless through a covid ward letting everyone cough on them and never catch it.
While others inhale one viri and it'll put them in the ground.


Have you tried the salmon mousse? Have some and join me in the parlor. John O'Sullivan is conducted a salon I'm sure you'll enjoy.
 
2020-11-24 10:17:09 PM  

winedrinkingman: beezeltown: I don't know about "weird" so much as sad. TFA said Filipino nurses have been heavily recruited over the years and are in roles that tend to be most exposed.

That, and as a rule, the vast majority of them grew up in heavily polluted areas, and likely have preexisting respiratory issues as a result.



You haven't spent any appreciable time in the Philippines, Mr. Vast.
 
2020-11-24 10:18:23 PM  
It's strange that the study felt the need to call so much attention to the race of the people involved.  Isn't it sad enough that they passed in the first place?

It'd be different if they were trying to nail down a cause for it, but they weren't.

Like imagine you're listing names of people for.....anything.  And you randomly said oh by the way, 32 of these people are black.

why would anybody think that was necessary?
 
2020-11-24 10:20:02 PM  

bfh0417: HotIgneous Intruder: This is because they work like maniacs is crappy jobs lazier people don't want.

Are they forced too?


Someone born to a crackhead and a homeless guy will walk a different path than one born to two university professors, or a hedge fund manager and a beautiful but dim trophy wife.

Think about a slaughterhouse worker. Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle." If someone had a better option, I seriously doubt they would be working in a slaughterhouse. But they don't see better options. If they did see them, they would take them.

So, to summarize, I think it's good to have some understanding for people in tougher jobs than ourselves, and understand how they might have gotten there, especially when they are doing essential work.

Different people are under different levels of duress, are born into different circumstances, walk different paths leading to their current situation, and see different sets of options.
 
2020-11-24 10:25:45 PM  

cyberspacedout: Wait, the O is considered masculine. Shouldn't it be FilipinX?

(I just want to hear people talk too fast and mispronounce that)



Who let in all these Parler bots?
 
2020-11-24 10:25:50 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: It's strange that the study felt the need to call so much attention to the race of the people involved.  Isn't it sad enough that they passed in the first place?

It'd be different if they were trying to nail down a cause for it, but they weren't.

Like imagine you're listing names of people for.....anything.  And you randomly said oh by the way, 32 of these people are black.

why would anybody think that was necessary?


Because some people aren't stupid? It's not like statistics are ever used in anything else.
 
2020-11-24 10:32:49 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: It's strange that the study felt the need to call so much attention to the race of the people involved.  Isn't it sad enough that they passed in the first place?

It'd be different if they were trying to nail down a cause for it, but they weren't.

Like imagine you're listing names of people for.....anything.  And you randomly said oh by the way, 32 of these people are black.

why would anybody think that was necessary?


Because it's a possibly useful piece of information? Grouping and systemizing helps people understand the world, scientists especially. Races do have some differences, just like dog breeds, which is an informative analogy. There are drugs which have different efficacies in blacks vs whites, and that is important for improved outcomes.

Perhaps there are genetic differences? Or just cultural? But if we can identify why this group is disproportionately affected, perhaps we can do something to mitigate the problem, instead of pretending we're not seeing race or ethnicity or some other currently politically incorrect taxonomy.
 
2020-11-24 10:38:14 PM  
majestic:

I've never really liked that quote much, but at least it voices the idea that people can change and worsen with age instead of assuming that age is the road to wisdom.
 
2020-11-24 10:43:21 PM  
Filipino nurses make up just 4% of the nursing population nationwide.

^I think this statment needs to be fact-checked. I feel like the ratio is much higher, maybe they're not counting Filipino-American (who no longer classify themselves as Filipino) as part of the nursing population.
 
2020-11-24 10:51:58 PM  
2187 dead today.

We're going to be pushing 4k/day by Christmas aren't we?
 
2020-11-24 11:10:25 PM  

The Devil's Bartender: If my well thought out hypothesis is correct, someone from Holland should mate with a Filipino and their kid would be a Hollapiño, thus having supreme immunity!


But not Samoans.
Or else you just get Samo-Philippinos
 
2020-11-24 11:16:27 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: It's strange that the study felt the need to call so much attention to the race of the people involved.  Isn't it sad enough that they passed in the first place?

It'd be different if they were trying to nail down a cause for it, but they weren't.

Like imagine you're listing names of people for.....anything.  And you randomly said oh by the way, 32 of these people are black.

why would anybody think that was necessary?


Because it's important to understand a problem before you can fix it.

People of color have higher COVID mortality rates than whites.  Black people, native americans, and hispanics certainly do.  Apparently Filipino folks too.

I've heard different reasons why.  Chronic disease disposition by race, differences in ACE receptors, access to and quality to care.  In truth, it's probably a multifaceted issue.  As far as Filipino nurses dying at higher rates... I don't know.  Those numbers are very skewed (4% RN population vs 30% RN COVID deaths), so I don't know if saying that Filipino nurses tend to congregate in certain care areas even comes close to explaining that gap.

This breaks my heart.  I've been a RN for a over a decade, NP for the past few years.  Some of the best nurses I've ever met were from the Philippines.  I wouldn't be where I am today without certain Filipino mentors.
 
2020-11-25 12:36:40 AM  

cyberspacedout: Wait, the O is considered masculine. Shouldn't it be FilipinX?

(I just want to hear people talk too fast and mispronounce that)


A fair number of the nurses I've worked (and work) with from the Philippines are male. I've worked predominantly ER and ICU, where there are more male nurses, but still, there's plenty of Philipino nurses along with all the Philipinas.
 
2020-11-25 12:39:00 AM  

bfh0417: HotIgneous Intruder: This is because they work like maniacs is crappy jobs lazier people don't want.

Are they forced too?


Grow up in crappy country with no opportunities, get work visa to US. So, yeah, pretty much.
 
2020-11-25 12:41:09 AM  

thejmz: Filipino nurses make up just 4% of the nursing population nationwide.

^I think this statment needs to be fact-checked. I feel like the ratio is much higher, maybe they're not counting Filipino-American (who no longer classify themselves as Filipino) as part of the nursing population.


Agree.
 
2020-11-25 12:50:29 AM  
yellow fever, haha
 
2020-11-25 2:23:34 AM  
I married a Filpina nurse, and most of her friends are Filipina nurses. They make up a substantial portion of the workforce at area hospitals. I fear they are at high risk because they live in large family groups, with many family members in jobs that expose them. Plus they are very social, normally attending gatherings of 10 to 50 people about twice per week or more. The socializing is such an important part of their culture, they can't stop/won't stop regardless of any government lockdown. It would kill my wife to isolate, so I just beg her to wear an N95 mask at all times. It's ok to call the general population Filipino, but you can use the feminine Filipina when referring to females. And get used to them calling everyone "her" or "she", it's just what they default to regardless of gender. And yeah, a lot of male nurses from the Phillipines work around here too. Meanwhile, back in the Philippines, mask/glove/face shield use is prevalent, and people seem to comply with curfews and travel restrictions. One difference is they have a visbile and present police force actively enforcing orders. I haven't really seen that in the US.
 
2020-11-25 2:47:22 AM  

bfh0417: HotIgneous Intruder: This is because they work like maniacs is crappy jobs lazier people don't want.

Are they forced too?


Yeah.

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2020-11-25 11:52:41 AM  

thehobbes: 2187 dead today.

We're going to be pushing 4k/day by Christmas aren't we?


In 2 weeks, just based on pre-thanksgiving numbers, I expect we'll see 2600-2700 a day on average (the current average is 1600 deaths per day), with some days reporting numbers around 3600 dead per day (because of the weekly cyclical variance in when deaths are reported).

Haven't recently seen that farker who is constantly posting charts he erroneously uses to assert that deaths won't rise. Wonder why?
 
2020-11-25 8:56:36 PM  

Trik: Like many diseases some people will be genetically more resistant or more susceptible to covid.

Some people can walk maskless through a covid ward letting everyone cough on them and never catch it.
While others inhale one viri and it'll put them in the ground.


While this is certainly true to a degree, the fact that it is Filipinos in the US, not in the Phillipines, that are getting hit disproportionately makes Filipino ancestry likely irrelevant in the case of COVID.

Here are a few possible explanations that are more likely:  multi-generational families living together; their likelihood of being in jobs more exposed; the possibility of them failing to insist on proper precautions due to fear of losing their jobs if they are on work visas; cultural propensity towards certain diseases based upon diet.

The hospitals where I live have a fairly high percentage of Filipino nurses and aides and most are not at the top of the labor food chain.
 
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