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(BBC)   Salon owner who opened during lockdown hit with fines totalling £17,000. But she's not going to pay them, explaining that she 'doesn't consent to the fines' while quoting the Magna carta. Yeah, good luck with that   (bbc.co.uk) divider line
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2020-11-24 11:03:22 AM  
Why is it always Salon owners, gym owners, bar owners?  The cruise ship lines would be in there, but they're too busy still removing all the bodies they hid, plus there are skilled trades needed to maintain seagoing vessels.
 
2020-11-24 11:05:50 AM  
I thought it said Maga Carta for a second.
 
2020-11-24 11:17:36 AM  
So, a British version of a "sovereign citizen", eh?
 
2020-11-24 11:29:49 AM  

wooden_badger: I thought it said Maga Carta for a second.

Manga

Carta. It basically says that Hiroshi must save Michiko from the nobles so he can reclaim his birthright and put the evil Watanabe syndicate away for good. Ganbatte ne!!
 
2020-11-24 11:48:16 AM  

wooden_badger: I thought it said Maga Carta for a second.


It did till the libs put an "n" in there, because they want America to Never be great again.
 
2020-11-24 11:48:35 AM  

Geotpf: So, a British version of a "sovereign citizen", eh?


Sovereign (Period).  King John re-enactor.
 
2020-11-24 11:53:20 AM  

BitwiseShift: Why is it always Salon owners, gym owners, bar owners?


In the form of a question....

"Who are business owners who could easily lose their business and their income due to the shutdown? "
 
2020-11-24 11:54:59 AM  
King John certainly didn't follow the rules of the Magna Carta, and he signed it...
 
2020-11-24 11:55:16 AM  
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Somehow I was expected someone crazier looking.
 
2020-11-24 11:55:30 AM  
THAT UNION JACK HAS A FRINGE!


Ah.  Oh well.
 
2020-11-24 11:56:21 AM  
I read that as saloon owner, and had a lot of sympathy at first because saloons have been on hard times since the 90s.

1890s that is.
 
2020-11-24 12:00:10 PM  
"I do not consent".

I see the UK has its own sovereign citizen movement.
The first time I heard such a thing was from a Scottish engineer working in Lousiana, urging me to stop paying federal income taxes because they are "voluntary". I don't know if he brought his derp across the pond or picked it up in 'Merica.
 
2020-11-24 12:00:29 PM  

Cyrene Valantion: King John certainly didn't follow the rules of the Magna Carta, and he signed it...


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/Approves
 
2020-11-24 12:01:08 PM  
You won't be earning a living at all after the bureaucracy is finished with you.
 
2020-11-24 12:01:13 PM  
I don't consent to Jennifer Lawrence ignoring my advances but it doesn't work that way in dating, either.

/seriously Jen, a restraining order?
 
2020-11-24 12:01:38 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [Fark user image image 615x409]

Somehow I was expected someone crazier looking.


Afaik (I'm actually a dual citizen with UK - but know very little about Brit politics) the magna carta is still relevant today (a few parts of it) or has been incorporated or referenced in modern law.

However I've also heard that people (usually self represented) will reference it and get laughed out of court.  But of course take that with a grain of salt.
 
2020-11-24 12:02:40 PM  

BitwiseShift: Why is it always Salon owners, gym owners, bar owners?  The cruise ship lines would be in there, but they're too busy still removing all the bodies they hid, plus there are skilled trades needed to maintain seagoing vessels.


Because they never got an education to hold any kind of desk job, rent on the storefront is due, and they're desperate?
 
2020-11-24 12:02:43 PM  

SpectroBoy: BitwiseShift: Why is it always Salon owners, gym owners, bar owners?

In the form of a question....

"Who are business owners who could easily lose their business and their income due to the shutdown? "


Yeah, these are usually sole proprietors, and it's not like those skills are transferrable to anything else.

You go to beauty school, learn to cut, dye, curl, etc.  That's all you know.  You can't go into construction.
 
2020-11-24 12:03:18 PM  
Join us later this year or early next one when the lady gets arrested trying to prevent court appointed officers from seizing assets in lieu of the debt. At least then she will get state apointed legal representation to explain to her how this shiat works in reality.
 
2020-11-24 12:07:04 PM  

FrancoFile: SpectroBoy: BitwiseShift: Why is it always Salon owners, gym owners, bar owners?

In the form of a question....

"Who are business owners who could easily lose their business and their income due to the shutdown? "

Yeah, these are usually sole proprietors, and it's not like those skills are transferrable to anything else.

You go to beauty school, learn to cut, dye, curl, etc.  That's all you know.  You can't go into construction.


Not to be a dick, but almost anyone can be a construction laborer.  Of course there's plenty of skilled trades, but labor is labor.

That said, small business should be getting a lot more help from the govt.  A lot more help so that shiat like this doesn't happen.
 
2020-11-24 12:08:03 PM  

BitwiseShift: Geotpf: So, a British version of a "sovereign citizen", eh?

Sovereign (Period).  King John re-enactor.


Difficulty: England has no problem with separating sovereign heads from their associated bodies.

Checkmate!
 
2020-11-24 12:08:12 PM  

starsrift: BitwiseShift: Why is it always Salon owners, gym owners, bar owners?  The cruise ship lines would be in there, but they're too busy still removing all the bodies they hid, plus there are skilled trades needed to maintain seagoing vessels.

Because they never got an education to hold any kind of desk job, rent on the storefront is due, and they're desperate?


I'm not excusing bad behavior, but don't diminish the importance of the skilled trades.
 
2020-11-24 12:09:53 PM  
I know this is frustrating to Brits but it is enormously helpful for me to know that this kinda of nonsense is not uniquely American.
 
2020-11-24 12:09:55 PM  

FrancoFile: SpectroBoy: BitwiseShift: Why is it always Salon owners, gym owners, bar owners?

In the form of a question....

"Who are business owners who could easily lose their business and their income due to the shutdown? "

Yeah, these are usually sole proprietors, and it's not like those skills are transferrable to anything else.

You go to beauty school, learn to cut, dye, curl, etc.  That's all you know.  You can't go into construction.


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2020-11-24 12:10:38 PM  
It's now up to £27,000. At this point she's essentially pot-committed, and just has to hope the council will eventually decide they're never going to collect anything and give up
 
2020-11-24 12:10:41 PM  
If they (Trump and the idiots who work for him.) hadn't slow walked this pandemic, we wouldn't be in this situation.  If we had slammed the door shut starting in February  (early, when Trump knew it was coming), Trump would still be President because we would have largely stopped the pandemic.  The shutdown would have lasted maybe 3 months and would have ended in May, but here we are because Trump's a bonehead.  He blew his own re-election because he was worried about being re-elected!

But, instead, he's a big fat loser because he thought he was so damn smart.

Not to mention the 200,000 plus who undoubtedly died needlessly because Trump's an incompetent boob.
 
2020-11-24 12:10:45 PM  

IRestoreFurniture: THAT UNION JACK HAS A FRINGE!


Ah.  Oh well.


It's a flag when on land. Of course I don't know where the salon is, or even if it exists.
 
2020-11-24 12:10:48 PM  
Does she have fringe on her flag?
 
2020-11-24 12:13:00 PM  

rnatalie: Does she have fringe on her flag?


Wouldn't mind taking a look, tbh.
 
2020-11-24 12:14:20 PM  
Toss her in jaol, seize her assets and auction them off. Any proceeds over and above her fines can be given to her upon her release from prison.
 
2020-11-24 12:14:48 PM  
*jail...
 
2020-11-24 12:14:55 PM  

rnatalie: Does she have fringe on her flag?


I will investigate her fringe.
 
2020-11-24 12:15:18 PM  

BitwiseShift: Why is it always Salon owners, gym owners, bar owners?  The cruise ship lines would be in there, but they're too busy still removing all the bodies they hid, plus there are skilled trades needed to maintain seagoing vessels.


My cousin married a Q anon salon owner felon.

He got banned from Twitter or Facebook and uses her account now.

I use neither, so I forget which.
 
2020-11-24 12:15:33 PM  

ChubbyTiger: rnatalie: Does she have fringe on her flag?

Wouldn't mind taking a look, tbh.


/queues up
 
2020-11-24 12:16:21 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [Fark user image 615x409]

Somehow I was expected someone crazier looking.


Look up a little more.  It's in the eyes.  You can see it there, lurking.
 
2020-11-24 12:16:37 PM  

rnatalie: Does she have fringe on her flag?


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2020-11-24 12:16:45 PM  

EL EM: IRestoreFurniture: THAT UNION JACK HAS A FRINGE!


Ah.  Oh well.

It's a flag when on land. Of course I don't know where the salon is, or even if it exists.


Ha, I didn't know that but according to wikipedia that claim is disputed.
 
2020-11-24 12:18:43 PM  

BitwiseShift: Why is it always Salon owners, gym owners, bar owners?  The cruise ship lines would be in there, but they're too busy still removing all the bodies they hid, plus there are skilled trades needed to maintain seagoing vessels.


Because you random idiot can pretty easily open up a bar or a salon. Larger companies are less likely to pull this shiat because they have more people to answer to and care somewhat about PR and fines.
 
2020-11-24 12:19:21 PM  

BitwiseShift: Why is it always Salon owners, gym owners, bar owners


Easy targets.
 
2020-11-24 12:19:26 PM  
The Magna Carta only applied to barons. Are you a baron, ma'am?
 
2020-11-24 12:20:30 PM  

wage0048: Toss her in jaol, seize her assets and auction them off. Any proceeds over and above her fines can be given to her upon her release from prison.


It's the UK- you were closer the first time.
 
2020-11-24 12:21:32 PM  

xxBirdMadGirlxx: wage0048: Toss her in jaol, seize her assets and auction them off. Any proceeds over and above her fines can be given to her upon her release from prison.

It's the UK- you were closer the first time.


Isn't it spelled jaol in like, old timey london?
 
2020-11-24 12:22:00 PM  

phedex: rnatalie: Does she have fringe on her flag?

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2020-11-24 12:22:31 PM  

wage0048: *jail...


Gaol also acceptable.
 
2020-11-24 12:23:36 PM  

IRestoreFurniture: xxBirdMadGirlxx: wage0048: Toss her in jaol, seize her assets and auction them off. Any proceeds over and above her fines can be given to her upon her release from prison.

It's the UK- you were closer the first time.

Isn't it spelled jaol in like, old timey london?


Gaol. You know the old saying "Two countries separated by a common language."
 
2020-11-24 12:24:45 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [Fark user image 615x409]

Somehow I was expected someone crazier looking.


She definitely has the crazy eyes.
 
2020-11-24 12:24:45 PM  
Ah yes, a Freeman-on-the-land. Or a freewoman, I guess, in this case. Just as bonkers as the Sov Cits, but less focused on fringed flags and less likely to shoot cops at a traffic stop.

Probably partly home grown madness, and partly imported insanity.
 
2020-11-24 12:31:04 PM  

IRestoreFurniture: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [Fark user image image 615x409]

Somehow I was expected someone crazier looking.

Afaik (I'm actually a dual citizen with UK - but know very little about Brit politics) the magna carta is still relevant today (a few parts of it) or has been incorporated or referenced in modern law.

However I've also heard that people (usually self represented) will reference it and get laughed out of court.  But of course take that with a grain of salt.


It ends up being The Magna Carter, As Amended by Subsequent Laws. It has no primacy over over, later laws.

Those subsequent laws being things like the fines in the emergency shutdown legislation.
 
2020-11-24 12:31:33 PM  
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2020-11-24 12:32:19 PM  
£27,000, subby.
 
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