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2020-11-24 10:47:58 AM  
trippy
not as old as I was expecting
 
2020-11-24 12:05:43 PM  
In the before times I loved shrooms at a festival

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2020-11-24 12:40:20 PM  
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2020-11-24 12:54:25 PM  
Archaeologists have dubbed it the Transmorph

JK Rowling is going to lose her mind when she hears that.
 
2020-11-24 1:22:55 PM  
Hmmm...were they chewing the leaves or the flowers?
 
2020-11-24 2:07:17 PM  

TwilightZone: Hmmm...were they chewing the leaves or the flowers?


Doesn't matter. Both will fark you up. A curious story from when the Spanish first encountered the plant: Seems that some soldiers thought the leaves resembled spinach, so they cooked up some, ate them, and spent days tripping balls.
 
2020-11-24 2:18:50 PM  
Sounds like a terrible trip. And then there's the whole risk of death thing. Can't OD on shrooms.
 
2020-11-24 3:26:50 PM  

MellowMauiMan: TwilightZone: Hmmm...were they chewing the leaves or the flowers?

Doesn't matter. Both will fark you up. A curious story from when the Spanish first encountered the plant: Seems that some soldiers thought the leaves resembled spinach, so they cooked up some, ate them, and spent days tripping balls.


Does matter -- the leaves smell nasty and taste really bad, while the flower has only a faint, some say sweet, smell, and I have no idea how it tastes.  I find that Spanish story suspect -- datura looks absolutely nothing like spinach and, as I said, tastes terrible, so I doubt any of them would have consumed enough of it to trip balls.  There are documented stories of people mistaking mandrake leaves for swiss chard (they do look similar) and tripping balls because mandrake has the same alkaloids as datura.
 
2020-11-24 3:44:33 PM  
The local Native Americans from my area of California, the Yokut, had centuries of knowledge using datura as a hallucinogen. So far as we know, it was the only intoxicant they had. They brewed a tea from the roasted roots, which had to be harvested at a specific time of the year to ensure they were "safe", and people still occasionally died. According to the sources I've read, after consuming the tea, the taker fell into a deep sleep for 3 days, while they traveled in the spirit world. It was during these trips that one learned of their spirit animal. If the taker never awoke (died), it was said by the shamans that the allure of the spirit world was too strong and they had just decided to stay.

While I don't think I'll ever be brave enough to take a datura trip like that, I have added a small pinch of dried and ground tree datura (Brugmansia) flowers to marijuana bowls that I've vaped, and found the added sedating effects quite nice.
 
2020-11-24 4:12:46 PM  

amyldoanitrite: The local Native Americans from my area of California, the Yokut, had centuries of knowledge using datura as a hallucinogen. So far as we know, it was the only intoxicant they had. They brewed a tea from the roasted roots, which had to be harvested at a specific time of the year to ensure they were "safe", and people still occasionally died. According to the sources I've read, after consuming the tea, the taker fell into a deep sleep for 3 days, while they traveled in the spirit world. It was during these trips that one learned of their spirit animal. If the taker never awoke (died), it was said by the shamans that the allure of the spirit world was too strong and they had just decided to stay.

While I don't think I'll ever be brave enough to take a datura trip like that, I have added a small pinch of dried and ground tree datura (Brugmansia) flowers to marijuana bowls that I've vaped, and found the added sedating effects quite nice.


I read somewhere -- don't know the authenticity of this -- that English ladies used to put their teacups under the brugmansia flower and tap some pollen into the tea for the hallucinogenic effects.  You can find Datura ointment -- one of the ingredients of flying ointments (there are many recipes) online.
 
2020-11-24 4:17:20 PM  

TwilightZone: amyldoanitrite: The local Native Americans from my area of California, the Yokut, had centuries of knowledge using datura as a hallucinogen. So far as we know, it was the only intoxicant they had. They brewed a tea from the roasted roots, which had to be harvested at a specific time of the year to ensure they were "safe", and people still occasionally died. According to the sources I've read, after consuming the tea, the taker fell into a deep sleep for 3 days, while they traveled in the spirit world. It was during these trips that one learned of their spirit animal. If the taker never awoke (died), it was said by the shamans that the allure of the spirit world was too strong and they had just decided to stay.

While I don't think I'll ever be brave enough to take a datura trip like that, I have added a small pinch of dried and ground tree datura (Brugmansia) flowers to marijuana bowls that I've vaped, and found the added sedating effects quite nice.

I read somewhere -- don't know the authenticity of this -- that English ladies used to put their teacups under the brugmansia flower and tap some pollen into the tea for the hallucinogenic effects.  You can find Datura ointment -- one of the ingredients of flying ointments (there are many recipes) online.


Interesting, but I doubt a dusting of pollen would deliver enough alkaloids to cause effects. Seems a little far fetched.
 
2020-11-24 4:23:54 PM  

amyldoanitrite: TwilightZone: amyldoanitrite: The local Native Americans from my area of California, the Yokut, had centuries of knowledge using datura as a hallucinogen. So far as we know, it was the only intoxicant they had. They brewed a tea from the roasted roots, which had to be harvested at a specific time of the year to ensure they were "safe", and people still occasionally died. According to the sources I've read, after consuming the tea, the taker fell into a deep sleep for 3 days, while they traveled in the spirit world. It was during these trips that one learned of their spirit animal. If the taker never awoke (died), it was said by the shamans that the allure of the spirit world was too strong and they had just decided to stay.

While I don't think I'll ever be brave enough to take a datura trip like that, I have added a small pinch of dried and ground tree datura (Brugmansia) flowers to marijuana bowls that I've vaped, and found the added sedating effects quite nice.

I read somewhere -- don't know the authenticity of this -- that English ladies used to put their teacups under the brugmansia flower and tap some pollen into the tea for the hallucinogenic effects.  You can find Datura ointment -- one of the ingredients of flying ointments (there are many recipes) online.

Interesting, but I doubt a dusting of pollen would deliver enough alkaloids to cause effects. Seems a little far fetched.


It does seem like microdosing -- then again, I've never tried knocking pollen off brugmansia flowers, so I have no idea how much it would put out.  Maybe if you collected enough pollen from many flowers?
 
2020-11-24 4:37:23 PM  

TwilightZone: amyldoanitrite: TwilightZone: amyldoanitrite: The local Native Americans from my area of California, the Yokut, had centuries of knowledge using datura as a hallucinogen. So far as we know, it was the only intoxicant they had. They brewed a tea from the roasted roots, which had to be harvested at a specific time of the year to ensure they were "safe", and people still occasionally died. According to the sources I've read, after consuming the tea, the taker fell into a deep sleep for 3 days, while they traveled in the spirit world. It was during these trips that one learned of their spirit animal. If the taker never awoke (died), it was said by the shamans that the allure of the spirit world was too strong and they had just decided to stay.

While I don't think I'll ever be brave enough to take a datura trip like that, I have added a small pinch of dried and ground tree datura (Brugmansia) flowers to marijuana bowls that I've vaped, and found the added sedating effects quite nice.

I read somewhere -- don't know the authenticity of this -- that English ladies used to put their teacups under the brugmansia flower and tap some pollen into the tea for the hallucinogenic effects.  You can find Datura ointment -- one of the ingredients of flying ointments (there are many recipes) online.

Interesting, but I doubt a dusting of pollen would deliver enough alkaloids to cause effects. Seems a little far fetched.

It does seem like microdosing -- then again, I've never tried knocking pollen off brugmansia flowers, so I have no idea how much it would put out.  Maybe if you collected enough pollen from many flowers?


NOW I think I'm starting to understand what's wrong with bees...
 
2020-11-24 5:05:41 PM  

SansNeural: TwilightZone: amyldoanitrite: TwilightZone: amyldoanitrite: The local Native Americans from my area of California, the Yokut, had centuries of knowledge using datura as a hallucinogen. So far as we know, it was the only intoxicant they had. They brewed a tea from the roasted roots, which had to be harvested at a specific time of the year to ensure they were "safe", and people still occasionally died. According to the sources I've read, after consuming the tea, the taker fell into a deep sleep for 3 days, while they traveled in the spirit world. It was during these trips that one learned of their spirit animal. If the taker never awoke (died), it was said by the shamans that the allure of the spirit world was too strong and they had just decided to stay.

While I don't think I'll ever be brave enough to take a datura trip like that, I have added a small pinch of dried and ground tree datura (Brugmansia) flowers to marijuana bowls that I've vaped, and found the added sedating effects quite nice.

I read somewhere -- don't know the authenticity of this -- that English ladies used to put their teacups under the brugmansia flower and tap some pollen into the tea for the hallucinogenic effects.  You can find Datura ointment -- one of the ingredients of flying ointments (there are many recipes) online.

Interesting, but I doubt a dusting of pollen would deliver enough alkaloids to cause effects. Seems a little far fetched.

It does seem like microdosing -- then again, I've never tried knocking pollen off brugmansia flowers, so I have no idea how much it would put out.  Maybe if you collected enough pollen from many flowers?

NOW I think I'm starting to understand what's wrong with bees...


hallucinogenic honey is a thing.  Manunka honey.
 
2020-11-24 7:06:14 PM  

MellowMauiMan: TwilightZone: Hmmm...were they chewing the leaves or the flowers?

Doesn't matter. Both will fark you up. A curious story from when the Spanish first encountered the plant: Seems that some soldiers thought the leaves resembled spinach, so they cooked up some, ate them, and spent days tripping balls.


Somehow I doubt that.
Chewing on a small amount of flower is one thing, eating a bunch will just kill you.
And it looks nothing like spinach.
It must have been something else.
 
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