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2020-11-23 9:08:24 PM  
Elon Musk is a genius
 
2020-11-23 10:01:24 PM  
Gone In 90 Seconds: A Tantric Ron Howard Production
 
2020-11-23 10:05:44 PM  
Can they just deactivate (brick) specific cars?  And maybe find them?
 
2020-11-23 10:22:44 PM  
Sure, but how far are the thieves going to get when that thing can be tracked as all Teslas are essentially lowjacked. Stealing a Tesla requires a car thief to be a special kind of stupid when there are plenty of cars out there that can't be tracked.
 
2020-11-23 10:41:01 PM  
Tesla dissolved its press relations team in October

I'm mostly convinced that Musk is too much of an idiot to really become a problem, but even idiots can get lucky as we've seen.
 
2020-11-23 10:58:45 PM  
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Xai [TotalFark]
2020-11-24 1:45:54 AM  
Yet another article misleading that an amazing feature of the tesla is somehow bad.

I'm sure there are people readying their replies before even reading the test of this post now, but hear me out.;
Many modern cats have remote access vulnerabilities, it's why people keep their keys in metal containers and there are even such thefts recorded on video occurring in under a minute.
The bonus of the tesla is while it may have similar security vulnerabilities, thanks to the ability to remotely update the system software, you can roll out patches and fix these flaws before anyone can ever use them to steal anything.

But yeah it's an article about a tesla, so what did we expect.
 
2020-11-24 1:57:19 AM  
Did he paint the car silver and call it Elon-nor ?
 
2020-11-24 2:18:45 AM  

TheHighlandHowler: Can they just deactivate (brick) specific cars?  And maybe find them?


I'm imagining in the near future a black-market kit which gives the car all new identifying numbers (even if only online).  The car the rightful owner are trying to brick and seek out no longer exists.  The criminals now have what appears on the system as a pure new car unattached to anyone.
 
2020-11-24 3:36:29 AM  

red230: Sure, but how far are the thieves going to get when that thing can be tracked as all Teslas are essentially lowjacked. Stealing a Tesla requires a car thief to be a special kind of stupid when there are plenty of cars out there that can't be tracked.


I live not far from the Tesla factory. There are more Tesla's registered here than anywhere else in the world. If I was a young buck, I would steal a Tesla simply to take it for a joyride. I'd head to any of the nearby mountains, out of range of any cell towers or cops that may be nearby. Don't think they can shut them down via satellite yet.

If you asked a group of car thieves what their favorite car to take for a joyride is, I promise you a lot are going to answer model X. It's the perfect car to joyride. Enable ludicrous mode now.
 
2020-11-24 5:49:06 AM  
Am I just an old foagie in that I want a car with a key to start it?  I want to have to press a button on my key fob to unlock the doors.
 
2020-11-24 6:05:30 AM  

sleze: Am I just an old foagie in that I want a car with a key to start it?  I want to have to press a button on my key fob to unlock the doors.


Most fobs you just gotta touch the car handle, near field communication with the fob unlocks it.

Being said bought my car new. 2018 and manual key, to go with my manual transmission!
 
2020-11-24 6:33:50 AM  

Ghastly: [i.ytimg.com image 850x478]


Everytime I saw that ad I thought, "wouldn't it be cool if I could , fark calling a taxi or getting on the subway"
 
2020-11-24 6:38:13 AM  

phishrace: red230: Sure, but how far are the thieves going to get when that thing can be tracked as all Teslas are essentially lowjacked. Stealing a Tesla requires a car thief to be a special kind of stupid when there are plenty of cars out there that can't be tracked.

I live not far from the Tesla factory. There are more Tesla's registered here than anywhere else in the world. If I was a young buck, I would steal a Tesla simply to take it for a joyride. I'd head to any of the nearby mountains, out of range of any cell towers or cops that may be nearby. Don't think they can shut them down via satellite yet.

If you asked a group of car thieves what their favorite car to take for a joyride is, I promise you a lot are going to answer model X. It's the perfect car to joyride. Enable ludicrous mode now.


Car thieves don't go for joyrides
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2020-11-24 8:11:45 AM  
Is there a single wire you can pull to disconnect the antenna used to remote control the car?
 
2020-11-24 8:15:57 AM  
Can't almost any new car be found with by its GPS signal?
 
2020-11-24 10:03:54 AM  

Xai: Many modern cats have remote access vulnerabilities


That's why I like my old stuff.
 
2020-11-24 11:04:24 AM  
I thought the new, much easier method, and much more reliable was just to use a booster near the house. That would give yoh at least 30 minutes with my car and I don't think it will turn off so long as it is in drive unless I notice and tell the police. Then they can slowly bring the car to a stop.
 
2020-11-24 11:26:55 AM  

red230: Sure, but how far are the thieves going to get when that thing can be tracked as all Teslas are essentially lowjacked. Stealing a Tesla requires a car thief to be a special kind of stupid when there are plenty of cars out there that can't be tracked.



Right, the people smart enough to know how to write software, reprogram Teslas proprietary software and design FOBs for hijacking cars NEVER thought of blocking the gps transmissions or disabling them.
 
2020-11-24 12:16:48 PM  

nyseattitude: red230: Sure, but how far are the thieves going to get when that thing can be tracked as all Teslas are essentially lowjacked. Stealing a Tesla requires a car thief to be a special kind of stupid when there are plenty of cars out there that can't be tracked.


Right, the people smart enough to know how to write software, reprogram Teslas proprietary software and design FOBs for hijacking cars NEVER thought of blocking the gps transmissions or disabling them.


I don't know. Slapping some foil on the GPS and cell radio before you drive off is pretty advanced shiat.
 
2020-11-24 12:22:20 PM  

kittyhas1000legs: Xai: Many modern cats have remote access vulnerabilities

That's why I like my old stuff.


Older cars are stolen far more often because often you just need this

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But this is a good security option no matter the age in North America.

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2020-11-24 1:42:15 PM  

sleze: Am I just an old foagie in that I want a car with a key to start it?  I want to have to press a button on my key fob to unlock the doors.


I used to think the same way until we bought my wife's car. Having the seats auto adjust based on which fob is at the drivers door is great as my wife is super short.
 
2020-11-24 2:24:08 PM  

Intrepid00: nyseattitude: red230: Sure, but how far are the thieves going to get when that thing can be tracked as all Teslas are essentially lowjacked. Stealing a Tesla requires a car thief to be a special kind of stupid when there are plenty of cars out there that can't be tracked.


Right, the people smart enough to know how to write software, reprogram Teslas proprietary software and design FOBs for hijacking cars NEVER thought of blocking the gps transmissions or disabling them.

I don't know. Slapping some foil on the GPS and cell radio before you drive off is pretty advanced shiat.


Or just pull the correct fuse

Seriously, you guys make this way too complicated
 
2020-11-24 2:34:38 PM  

lifeslammer: Intrepid00: nyseattitude: red230: Sure, but how far are the thieves going to get when that thing can be tracked as all Teslas are essentially lowjacked. Stealing a Tesla requires a car thief to be a special kind of stupid when there are plenty of cars out there that can't be tracked.


Right, the people smart enough to know how to write software, reprogram Teslas proprietary software and design FOBs for hijacking cars NEVER thought of blocking the gps transmissions or disabling them.

I don't know. Slapping some foil on the GPS and cell radio before you drive off is pretty advanced shiat.

Or just pull the correct fuse

Seriously, you guys make this way too complicated


That takes way longer than some aluminum foil over the antenna.
 
2020-11-24 10:09:52 PM  

Ganon D. Mire: TheHighlandHowler: Can they just deactivate (brick) specific cars?  And maybe find them?

I'm imagining in the near future a black-market kit which gives the car all new identifying numbers (even if only online).  The car the rightful owner are trying to brick and seek out no longer exists.  The criminals now have what appears on the system as a pure new car unattached to anyone.


"Dear Parents,

I hate to start the year with bad news, but I'd rather it be this than a letter of condolence to a parent whose child has been killed in a senseless wreck.

As you were notified in your welcome pack, Burbank High has a zero-tolerance policy on unsafe automotive practices. We welcome healthy exploration, and our IT program is second to none in the county, but when students undertake dangerous modifications to their cars, and bring those cars to campus, they are not only violating Board of Education policy, they're violating federal laws, and putting other students and our wider community at risk.

Though the instructional year has only just started, we've already confiscated three student vehicles for operating with unlicensed firmware, and one of those cases has been referred to the police as the student involved was a repeat offender.

Tomorrow, we will begin a new program of random firmware audits for all student vehicles, on- and off-campus. These are NOT OPTIONAL. We are working with Burbank PD to make these as quick and painless as possible, and you can help by discussing this important issue with your child. Burbank PD will be pulling over vehicles with student parking tokens and checking their integrity throughout the city. As always, we expect our students to be polite and respectful when interacting with law enforcement officers.

This program starts TOMORROW. Students caught with unlicensed vehicle modifications will face immediate two-week suspensions for a first offence, and expulsion for a second offence. These are in addition to any charges that the police choose to lay.

Parents, this is your chance to talk to your children about an incredibly serious matter that too many teens don't take seriously at all. Take the opportunity, before it's too late: for them, for you, and for the people of our community.

Thank you,

Dr Harutyunyan,
School Principal."

- the opening paragraphs of Cory Doctorow's "Car Wars"
https://this.deakin.edu.au/self-impro​v​ement/car-wars
 
2020-11-25 12:27:56 AM  
I assume there will be an OTA update to fix this. I wonder if it will cost less than $2k
 
2020-11-25 3:10:47 AM  

chitownmike: phishrace: red230: Sure, but how far are the thieves going to get when that thing can be tracked as all Teslas are essentially lowjacked. Stealing a Tesla requires a car thief to be a special kind of stupid when there are plenty of cars out there that can't be tracked.

I live not far from the Tesla factory. There are more Tesla's registered here than anywhere else in the world. If I was a young buck, I would steal a Tesla simply to take it for a joyride. I'd head to any of the nearby mountains, out of range of any cell towers or cops that may be nearby. Don't think they can shut them down via satellite yet.

If you asked a group of car thieves what their favorite car to take for a joyride is, I promise you a lot are going to answer model X. It's the perfect car to joyride. Enable ludicrous mode now.

Car thieves don't go for joyrides


Yes, they do. Me and my buddies only stole cars to joyride them. Our favorite targets were old VW bugs and dune buggies, because they were so easy to hotwire. Yank three wires loose from behind keyhole in dash. Put two wires together until you get a green light on the dashboard, touch third wire to engage starter, drive away. You didn't didn't even have to memorize wire colors.

Granted a model X is going to take more effort than that, but kids are extremely tech savvy now and joyriding a model X is a huge lure. Have you ever driven or rode in a model X being put through it's paces? I have. I'm an old fark now, but I might still steal one if the opportunity arises. Even a base model X can probably outrun virtually every cop car on the road*.

* Fremont (home to the Tesla factory) PD has one Tesla squad car.
 
2020-11-25 12:12:12 PM  

Twilight Farkle: Ganon D. Mire: TheHighlandHowler: Can they just deactivate (brick) specific cars?  And maybe find them?

I'm imagining in the near future a black-market kit which gives the car all new identifying numbers (even if only online).  The car the rightful owner are trying to brick and seek out no longer exists.  The criminals now have what appears on the system as a pure new car unattached to anyone.

"Dear Parents,

I hate to start the year with bad news, but I'd rather it be this than a letter of condolence to a parent whose child has been killed in a senseless wreck.

As you were notified in your welcome pack, Burbank High has a zero-tolerance policy on unsafe automotive practices. We welcome healthy exploration, and our IT program is second to none in the county, but when students undertake dangerous modifications to their cars, and bring those cars to campus, they are not only violating Board of Education policy, they're violating federal laws, and putting other students and our wider community at risk.

Though the instructional year has only just started, we've already confiscated three student vehicles for operating with unlicensed firmware, and one of those cases has been referred to the police as the student involved was a repeat offender.

Tomorrow, we will begin a new program of random firmware audits for all student vehicles, on- and off-campus. These are NOT OPTIONAL. We are working with Burbank PD to make these as quick and painless as possible, and you can help by discussing this important issue with your child. Burbank PD will be pulling over vehicles with student parking tokens and checking their integrity throughout the city. As always, we expect our students to be polite and respectful when interacting with law enforcement officers.

This program starts TOMORROW. Students caught with unlicensed vehicle modifications will face immediate two-week suspensions for a first offence, and expulsion for a second offence. These are in addition to any charges that the police choose to lay.

Parents, this is your chance to talk to your children about an incredibly serious matter that too many teens don't take seriously at all. Take the opportunity, before it's too late: for them, for you, and for the people of our community.

Thank you,

Dr Harutyunyan,
School Principal."

- the opening paragraphs of Cory Doctorow's "Car Wars"
https://this.deakin.edu.au/self-improv​ement/car-wars


CSB: I went to Burbank high and they had a mechanic program. Lots of students modified their cars in that shop.
 
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