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2020-11-23 9:30:06 AM  
Funny, we didn't have rising murder rates nationwide when Obama was president.
 
2020-11-23 1:46:57 PM  
Silly subby. It's not murder when a coward in blue claims to be scared for their own safety.
Then it is sweet sweet law enforcement justice.
 
2020-11-23 1:50:06 PM  

SpectroBoy: Silly subby. It's not murder when a coward in blue claims to be scared for their own safety.
Then it is sweet sweet law enforcement justice.


maybe read the article first?
 
2020-11-23 1:53:29 PM  

tinyarena: SpectroBoy: Silly subby. It's not murder when a coward in blue claims to be scared for their own safety.
Then it is sweet sweet law enforcement justice.

maybe read the article first?


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He was riffing off the headline, not the article.
 
2020-11-23 1:56:03 PM  
I've said it before-covid (and related things like police brutality and the protests such spawn and the riots, arson, and looting the protests spawn, and the lockdowns and the poor economy and Trump and the election and the recounts and 2020 in general) is making everybody grumpy, and when people get grumpy, they get itchy trigger fingers.
 
2020-11-23 1:58:41 PM  

edmo: Funny, we didn't have rising murder rates nationwide when Obama was president.


Yeah we did, 2014 had 14,164 murders, by 2016 it was 17,413


U.S. murder/homicide rate for 2017 was 5.30, a 1.85% decline from 2016.
U.S. murder/homicide rate for 2016 was 5.40, a 8% increase from 2015.
U.S. murder/homicide rate for 2015 was 5.00, a 11.11% increase from 2014.
U.S. murder/homicide rate for 2014 was 4.50, a 0% increase from 2013.
 
2020-11-23 1:59:24 PM  
Seattle continues to lead the way on defunding the police.  They are moving to a public safety model where social workers respond to emergencies, deescslate and make referrals for services.  We all need to continue that progress, now that Orange make is leaving.  We need to Defund and abolish.
 
2020-11-23 1:59:50 PM  

edmo: Funny, we didn't have rising murder rates nationwide when Obama was president.


No worries.  The left and the media are suddenly about to begin siding with the government again and believing in expanded police powers, which will lead to reduced crime.  The right is about to suddenly be concerned about reining in executive power and the federal deficit, which will lead to absolutely nothing.
 
2020-11-23 2:01:13 PM  
"A Weekend like this creates Lasting Trauma in Communities. Praying for South Los Angeles," Tingirides added.


Welp, there's the problem. Get up off your knees and DO SOMETHING. Your current response is ineffective.
 
2020-11-23 2:02:12 PM  

Eightballjacket: edmo: Funny, we didn't have rising murder rates nationwide when Obama was president.

Yeah we did, 2014 had 14,164 murders, by 2016 it was 17,413


U.S. murder/homicide rate for 2017 was 5.30, a 1.85% decline from 2016.
U.S. murder/homicide rate for 2016 was 5.40, a 8% increase from 2015.
U.S. murder/homicide rate for 2015 was 5.00, a 11.11% increase from 2014.
U.S. murder/homicide rate for 2014 was 4.50, a 0% increase from 2013.


Um, start in 2008 as a baseline for before Obama.
 
2020-11-23 2:06:14 PM  

MegaLib: Seattle continues to lead the way on defunding the police.  They are moving to a public safety model where social workers respond to emergencies, deescslate and make referrals for services.  We all need to continue that progress, now that Orange make is leaving.  We need to Defund and abolish.


The farking article has the cops begging for more funding, not less, because they are overwhelmed with all the violence.

You do get what you pay for.  Now, I have no problem with moving as much to social workers as possible, but, especially with local budgets decimated with covid, "Defund the Police" in the real world will mean cut the police and replace them with nothing.

/of course, the words "Defund", "the", and "Police" literally mean "cut the police's budget to zero", but we are supposed to pretend that those words mean things other than what they actually mean because reasons
 
2020-11-23 2:06:17 PM  

edmo: Funny, we didn't have rising murder rates nationwide when Obama was president.


Yes we did, every racist asshole, aka Republican, in the country was pissed off we elected a black man, even more so when we did it the second time.
 
2020-11-23 2:08:57 PM  

phrawgh: "A Weekend like this creates Lasting Trauma in Communities. Praying for South Los Angeles," Tingirides added.


Welp, there's the problem. Get up off your knees and DO SOMETHING. Your current response is ineffective.



Christians love being on there knees, especially when little boys are around
 
2020-11-23 2:13:32 PM  
CNN couldn't find more material on the subject? After a few sentences, the author just starts talking about other cities. That's neither relevant nor what we were expecting to read when we clicked.
 
2020-11-23 2:16:22 PM  
Nothing, absolutely, nothing in  Los Angeles has changed since the inception of C.R.A.shiat is completely negligent to concentrate poverty in one area.
And, we have 30+ years of data to show this.
From  Cabrini-Green Homes, to the Bronx, to East Los. Sardining the poor in massive amounts makes for more crime.
And Death. Lots of death.

But, at least June Cleaver didn't have a none white neighbor.
So that's an upside.
🙄🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃
 
2020-11-23 2:18:35 PM  
Gee, it's almost like crime was tied to poverty and the increasing number of people who are out of work and desperate has increased during the Trump Pandemic. Combined with some juicing of the stats by the police to deflect against calls for reforming the departments.

Yeah, it's a real shocker crime is up.
 
2020-11-23 2:21:55 PM  

Geotpf: MegaLib: Seattle continues to lead the way on defunding the police.  They are moving to a public safety model where social workers respond to emergencies, deescslate and make referrals for services.  We all need to continue that progress, now that Orange make is leaving.  We need to Defund and abolish.

The farking article has the cops begging for more funding, not less, because they are overwhelmed with all the violence.

You do get what you pay for.  Now, I have no problem with moving as much to social workers as possible, but, especially with local budgets decimated with covid, "Defund the Police" in the real world will mean cut the police and replace them with nothing.

/of course, the words "Defund", "the", and "Police" literally mean "cut the police's budget to zero", but we are supposed to pretend that those words mean things other than what they actually mean because reasons


Hell, fire them all.
🙄
 
2020-11-23 2:28:35 PM  
Meanwhile in Philly the number is at 440 and climbing...

I don't think there was any exaggeration when the words "Bad things happen in Philadelphia" were said.
 
2020-11-23 2:34:15 PM  

Geotpf: I've said it before-covid (and related things like police brutality and the protests such spawn and the riots, arson, and looting the protests spawn, and the lockdowns and the poor economy and Trump and the election and the recounts and 2020 in general) is making everybody grumpy, and when people get grumpy, they get itchy trigger fingers.



And they would rather fight for their 'principles' than live up to them.
 
2020-11-23 2:48:28 PM  
Not to say that it isn't accurate but I recall previous stories about departments shuffling things around so the numbers don't look so bad. Always makes me wonder if there is an actual trend or the reporting has changed.
 
2020-11-23 2:50:27 PM  

nyseattitude: edmo: Funny, we didn't have rising murder rates nationwide when Obama was president.

Yes we did, every racist asshole, aka Republican, in the country was pissed off we elected a black man, even more so when we did it the second time.


please explain the number of black men that murder other black men.  i had no idea there were so many black Republicans in North and West Philadelphia, in Compton, in Inglewood, in...
 
2020-11-23 3:03:17 PM  

hollatchaboy: Meanwhile in Philly the number is at 440 and climbing...

I don't think there was any exaggeration when the words "Bad things happen in Philadelphia" were said.


a 12 year old was shot in the head and killed.  someone knocked on the door and then opened fire when the child attempted to open the door.  one shot, killed instantly.

but since this is now an everyday thing across America, the 12 year is now just another number.
 
2020-11-23 3:05:30 PM  

morg: Not to say that it isn't accurate but I recall previous stories about departments shuffling things around so the numbers don't look so bad. Always makes me wonder if there is an actual trend or the reporting has changed.


the numbers have increased, the violence due to the pandemic and the lack of national response to unemployment, loss of housing, and loss of mental health benefits will haunt the nation for some time.
 
2020-11-23 3:15:12 PM  

cyberspacedout: CNN couldn't find more material on the subject? After a few sentences, the author just starts talking about other cities. That's neither relevant nor what we were expecting to read when we clicked.


LAPD kills about 45 people a year.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2​0​20/sep/06/los-angeles-police-killings-​dijon-kizzee-andres-guardado

The tally is about 52 "2020 O.I.S. Shootings and Critical Incidents". Table gives no hint how many deaths per incident.
http://www.lapdonline.org/use_of_forc​e​/content_basic_view/66176
 
2020-11-23 3:29:22 PM  

WelldeadLink: cyberspacedout: CNN couldn't find more material on the subject? After a few sentences, the author just starts talking about other cities. That's neither relevant nor what we were expecting to read when we clicked.

LAPD kills about 45 people a year.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/20​20/sep/06/los-angeles-police-killings-​dijon-kizzee-andres-guardado

The tally is about 52 "2020 O.I.S. Shootings and Critical Incidents". Table gives no hint how many deaths per incident.
http://www.lapdonline.org/use_of_force​/content_basic_view/66176


Username checks out, in the most unfortunate way.
 
2020-11-23 3:31:06 PM  
LOL and (._.), submitter. Mostly the latter.
 
2020-11-23 3:46:21 PM  

WelldeadLink: cyberspacedout: CNN couldn't find more material on the subject? After a few sentences, the author just starts talking about other cities. That's neither relevant nor what we were expecting to read when we clicked.

LAPD kills about 45 people a year.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/20​20/sep/06/los-angeles-police-killings-​dijon-kizzee-andres-guardado

The tally is about 52 "2020 O.I.S. Shootings and Critical Incidents". Table gives no hint how many deaths per incident.
http://www.lapdonline.org/use_of_force​/content_basic_view/66176


Minor point of order: The article says cops kill about 45 people in LA County a year, which includes LA Sheriffs' Department and other non-LAPD police agencies of other LA County cities.  The second tally includes things with no fatalities.  Plus, there's no breakdown on how many were armed or had even fired at police first.
 
2020-11-23 3:54:42 PM  
Geotpf:

Minor point of order...

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2020-11-23 4:05:47 PM  

MegaLib: Seattle continues to lead the way on defunding the police.  They are moving to a public safety model where social workers respond to emergencies, deescslate and make referrals for services.  We all need to continue that progress, now that Orange make is leaving.  We need to Defund and abolish.


I genuinely can't tell whether you're a troll account or not.  Judging by the equal number of funnies and smarts you've gotten, nobody else can either.  Good luck in 2022, Democrats.
 
2020-11-23 4:40:43 PM  

Toxophil: tinyarena: SpectroBoy: Silly subby. It's not murder when a coward in blue claims to be scared for their own safety.
Then it is sweet sweet law enforcement justice.

maybe read the article first?

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He was riffing off the headline, not the article.


what are you, his mommy?
Gee I'm sorry Misses Spectro but "uncontrollable riffing" may be a sign of early onset dementia.
You may want to have "boy" checked.

Or are you just mad I spoiled your <Main> Police Hate Thread by actually mentioning the article?
 
2020-11-23 4:48:33 PM  

MegaLib: Seattle continues to lead the way on defunding the police.  They are moving to a public safety model where social workers respond to emergencies, deescslate and make referrals for services.  We all need to continue that progress, now that Orange make is leaving.  We need to Defund and abolish.


I don't think even the most hardcore "defunders" are claiming that its going to reduce crime.
 
2020-11-23 6:43:13 PM  

Magnanimous_J: MegaLib: Seattle continues to lead the way on defunding the police.  They are moving to a public safety model where social workers respond to emergencies, deescslate and make referrals for services.  We all need to continue that progress, now that Orange make is leaving.  We need to Defund and abolish.

I don't think even the most hardcore "defunders" are claiming that its going to reduce crime.


For the most part crime doesn't really Spike or drop that much that often


In fact being the victim of a crime has a very low probability for the most part

We really do focus on crime and amount that doesn't make sense to how much of a problem it actually is

We did the same thing with the drugs


And prostitution


Stupid self-righteous people are quite capable of getting very loud and making problems seem bigger than they are
 
2020-11-23 6:57:55 PM  

Magnanimous_J: MegaLib: Seattle continues to lead the way on defunding the police.  They are moving to a public safety model where social workers respond to emergencies, deescslate and make referrals for services.  We all need to continue that progress, now that Orange make is leaving.  We need to Defund and abolish.

I don't think even the most hardcore "defunders" are claiming that its going to reduce crime.


If it results in fewer people getting shot by police officers during non-violent calls, I'm all for it.

https://laist.com/2020/10/02/los-ange​l​es-city-council-crisis-response.php
 
2020-11-24 1:24:13 AM  

Geotpf: /of course, the words "Defund", "the", and "Police" literally mean "cut the police's budget to zero",


Excellent!  We shouldcut most police departments' budgets to zero, and fire everyone they employ.  Then we should take that budget money, put it into vastly better social services to handle most of the shiat the police handle now, and use whatever is left over to form a much smaller armed response agency with much more stringent hiring requirements for the very small number of incidents that require armed response (maybe 4% of the total current call volume in most places.)  Oh BTW, there's at least a 10 year moratorium on unionization for this new agency.

So yeah... Defund the Police (and fund a new and better institution instead).

Hope I didn't ruin your blatant anti-BLM propaganda-catapulting or anything.
 
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