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2020-11-21 10:43:27 PM  
That might cramp someone's style.
 
2020-11-21 11:16:27 PM  
So not necessary at all?

*runs*
 
2020-11-21 11:18:48 PM  
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2020-11-21 11:44:01 PM  
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2020-11-22 12:20:32 AM  
This should definitely be a thing.  And while were making that the norm, grant sick leave for people with the office-farts.
 
2020-11-22 1:06:59 AM  
Would definitely have come in handy throughout my life. Starting in 8th grade, I would throw up the first two days of my period because of the flood of hormones. I usually didn't make it to the bathroom, so the hallways were liberally splashed and the janitors did not like it. I was given permission by the school to take two days off a month, just because they were tired of cleaning up vomit.

When I went on the pill at 15 to treat this issue, it was great. My periods never bothered me the entire time I was on BC. But I went off the pill at 33 because of stroke risks ... and then holy bloody hell descended on me again and lasted until menopause.

I had to schedule and take PTO for my periods from that point on. The pain, the sheer AMOUNT of blood loss, doubled over with cramps - endometriosis hit me really hard. I bled so much I became anemic and would get dizzy and feel faint. I am so happy its all over now and when I look back on how much I suffered -- just ridiculous that this is how our bodies "work".
 
2020-11-22 1:14:34 AM  

silvervial: Would definitely have come in handy throughout my life. Starting in 8th grade, I would throw up the first two days of my period because of the flood of hormones. I usually didn't make it to the bathroom, so the hallways were liberally splashed and the janitors did not like it. I was given permission by the school to take two days off a month, just because they were tired of cleaning up vomit.

When I went on the pill at 15 to treat this issue, it was great. My periods never bothered me the entire time I was on BC. But I went off the pill at 33 because of stroke risks ... and then holy bloody hell descended on me again and lasted until menopause.

I had to schedule and take PTO for my periods from that point on. The pain, the sheer AMOUNT of blood loss, doubled over with cramps - endometriosis hit me really hard. I bled so much I became anemic and would get dizzy and feel faint. I am so happy its all over now and when I look back on how much I suffered -- just ridiculous that this is how our bodies "work".


This. It was miserable. When I was 14 my mom took me to the fambly doc, who told me "You don't have cramps, you want attention. It's all in your head." Prick.

Total misery.
 
2020-11-22 1:41:39 AM  
They might have to pull a few strings but I think they'll get it.
 
2020-11-22 2:22:26 AM  
Every worker should have enough sick leave to take a couple days off a month and they should be able to take them at their own discretion. This "we'll give you 4 days of sick leave/year and you need a doctor's note if you want to have more than 2 days in a row off" crap is BS.
 
2020-11-22 2:24:41 AM  
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2020-11-22 2:27:49 AM  

NotARocketScientist: Every worker should have enough sick leave to take a couple days off a month and they should be able to take them at their own discretion. This "we'll give you 4 days of sick leave/year and you need a doctor's note if you want to have more than 2 days in a row off" crap is BS.


This, obviously. Seriously, we're like the worst industrialized country on the planet when it comes to allowing workers to take time away from work. We don't require paid vacation time or paid holidays. No annual leave.

Eventually, we'll figure out that we've been getting the short end of the stick for half a century or so.
 
2020-11-22 2:36:40 AM  
as well, we need to allow:
coming in late had to drop the kids at babysitter/school/church/relatives house
leave early to pick up kids/go to school function,sports,relatives
come in sick because saving sick days to take kids to Disney. too bad everyone gets sick oh well

it goes on and on. ask any woman that works in an office with people who have children.
 
2020-11-22 2:52:37 AM  
Let's just do away with work completely.

Problem solved.
 
2020-11-22 3:01:47 AM  

NotARocketScientist: Every worker should have enough sick leave to take a couple days off a month and they should be able to take them at their own discretion.


This is pretty much standard practice in every other first world country and has been for decades. It's usually two or three paid days off per month, no questions asked.

It's not cumulative so you can't save them up. If you don't use them this month, they don't roll over next month.
 
2020-11-22 3:17:56 AM  

darkhorse23: silvervial: Would definitely have come in handy throughout my life. Starting in 8th grade, I would throw up the first two days of my period because of the flood of hormones. I usually didn't make it to the bathroom, so the hallways were liberally splashed and the janitors did not like it. I was given permission by the school to take two days off a month, just because they were tired of cleaning up vomit.

When I went on the pill at 15 to treat this issue, it was great. My periods never bothered me the entire time I was on BC. But I went off the pill at 33 because of stroke risks ... and then holy bloody hell descended on me again and lasted until menopause.

I had to schedule and take PTO for my periods from that point on. The pain, the sheer AMOUNT of blood loss, doubled over with cramps - endometriosis hit me really hard. I bled so much I became anemic and would get dizzy and feel faint. I am so happy its all over now and when I look back on how much I suffered -- just ridiculous that this is how our bodies "work".

This. It was miserable. When I was 14 my mom took me to the fambly doc, who told me "You don't have cramps, you want attention. It's all in your head." Prick.

Total misery.


I may have slit that doc's throat.

I've been in the ER with cramps more than once.
 
2020-11-22 3:39:27 AM  
Congratulations, subby, on finding the only way to put a full stop at the end of a Fark headline.
 
2020-11-22 3:41:54 AM  
So next would be employers requiring women who use birth control pills to do so without the week of placebos so they don't have to pay for menstrual leave?
 
2020-11-22 3:45:30 AM  
Well yeah a couple days off a month seems logical in a civilized society. How else will they be able to stay secluded in the menstrual hut?
 
2020-11-22 3:47:57 AM  
I'm fine with menstruation leave but don't expect equal pay
 
2020-11-22 3:49:04 AM  

Ishkur: NotARocketScientist: Every worker should have enough sick leave to take a couple days off a month and they should be able to take them at their own discretion.

This is pretty much standard practice in every other first world country and has been for decades. It's usually two or three paid days off per month, no questions asked.

It's not cumulative so you can't save them up. If you don't use them this month, they don't roll over next month.


Monthly use or lose leave seems like a horrible idea for any business that wants to be open the last week of the month.
 
2020-11-22 3:57:51 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: Let's just do away with work completely.

Problem solved.


User name checks out
 
2020-11-22 4:25:38 AM  
Anyone's suffering disabling pain for any reason they need leave/time off - I don't care about causation.  Even if you're all about being an asshole, 10 seconds of thought will tell you that as an employer you are not getting anything useful out an employee that's fighting major pain.  Denying leave doesn't make sense from ethical or business standpoints.
 
2020-11-22 4:42:10 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: Let's just do away with work completely.

Problem solved.


Username checks out, after about 6 day whiskies.
 
2020-11-22 5:11:27 AM  

Smackledorfer: Monthly use or lose leave seems like a horrible idea for any business that wants to be open the last week of the month.


Only cheaters and thieves think like this.

Responsible people living in well-run liberal democracies do not.
 
2020-11-22 6:19:00 AM  
Let's put it to a vote. I bet it doesn't even get 50% support amongst women.
 
2020-11-22 7:28:52 AM  
Menstrual leave is provided by my work. Some women have gone home early or taken a day off during a particularly bad month. One poor lady was vomiting and another coworker drove her home to make sure she didn't pass out on the train or something.

We also have bereavement leave, marriage leave, childcare leave and a couple years of maternity leave on top of my usual 20 days of paid leave a year.

Of course, just having it available doesn't mean you can use it in reality.

Still, I can't imagine going back to the hellscape that is the US.
 
2020-11-22 7:40:18 AM  
Jesus. It is a wonder anyone hires women. Such drama.
 
2020-11-22 7:57:17 AM  
I greatly fear that argument locks in the 70% gap in women's pay so famous in song and story. I'd ditch it.
 
2020-11-22 8:05:12 AM  

silvervial: Would definitely have come in handy throughout my life. Starting in 8th grade, I would throw up the first two days of my period because of the flood of hormones. I usually didn't make it to the bathroom, so the hallways were liberally splashed and the janitors did not like it. I was given permission by the school to take two days off a month, just because they were tired of cleaning up vomit.

When I went on the pill at 15 to treat this issue, it was great. My periods never bothered me the entire time I was on BC. But I went off the pill at 33 because of stroke risks ... and then holy bloody hell descended on me again and lasted until menopause.

I had to schedule and take PTO for my periods from that point on. The pain, the sheer AMOUNT of blood loss, doubled over with cramps - endometriosis hit me really hard. I bled so much I became anemic and would get dizzy and feel faint. I am so happy its all over now and when I look back on how much I suffered -- just ridiculous that this is how our bodies "work".


O also get cramps bad enough to make me vomit.  They leave me pretty much unable to walk for the first two days.  I also went on the pill around that age, which was a big help in school, however... With mom dying of breast cancer (and having previously had ovarian cysts) and my paternal aunt also having had breast cancer, I was too high risk for long term use. They didn't want me to hit five years because that would significantly increase my risk factors from breast cancer.... so here I am, 30 years old, been off the pill for little over a decade, doomed to suffer these debilitating cramps....

The human body has too many dang glitches.  This stuff shoulda been caught during beta testing....
 
2020-11-22 9:28:20 AM  
gross.
 
2020-11-22 9:34:59 AM  
Aren't they supposed to be in the yurt of shame?
 
2020-11-22 9:45:00 AM  
I have known many women who have used sick time before because of how painful and exhausting menstruation is. I am all about this.
 
2020-11-22 9:45:16 AM  

silvervial: Would definitely have come in handy throughout my life. Starting in 8th grade, I would throw up the first two days of my period because of the flood of hormones. I usually didn't make it to the bathroom, so the hallways were liberally splashed and the janitors did not like it. I was given permission by the school to take two days off a month, just because they were tired of cleaning up vomit.

When I went on the pill at 15 to treat this issue, it was great. My periods never bothered me the entire time I was on BC. But I went off the pill at 33 because of stroke risks ... and then holy bloody hell descended on me again and lasted until menopause.

I had to schedule and take PTO for my periods from that point on. The pain, the sheer AMOUNT of blood loss, doubled over with cramps - endometriosis hit me really hard. I bled so much I became anemic and would get dizzy and feel faint. I am so happy its all over now and when I look back on how much I suffered -- just ridiculous that this is how our bodies "work".


That...you make a really good case, ma'am.
 
2020-11-22 9:48:30 AM  
Women having more time off / the expectation of taking more time off than men is the single largest contributor towards the pay gap between the sexes / women not being in positions of power. Why would a business pay/promote the person who's not there as much as someone who is?

By demanding more maternity leave or menstrual leave, it just exacerbates the problem. The correct solution is to demand more parental leave, enough vacation to cover these issues, and the expectation that everybody uses it.
 
2020-11-22 9:54:00 AM  
In a perfect world, this would be really great. I get a rash on my inner thigh right where my underwear elastic rubs a few days before my period hits, and walking around work (an average of 3-4 miles a day) makes it SO MUCH worse. It's a weird hormone thing. Being able to stay home naked from the waist down for those few days would be a huge quality of life improvement for me.
 
2020-11-22 9:55:50 AM  
In theory you can take sick days at my work, but you're strongly discouraged, and encouraged to take vacation days instead...
 
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2020-11-22 10:03:59 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Anyone's suffering disabling pain for any reason they need leave/time off - I don't care about causation.  Even if you're all about being an asshole, 10 seconds of thought will tell you that as an employer you are not getting anything useful out an employee that's fighting major pain.  Denying leave doesn't make sense from ethical or business standpoints.


Yep.  That kind of pain requires a reasonable accommodation under the ADA.
 
2020-11-22 10:13:38 AM  
Taking off 10% of all work days for periods would in no way make people think twice about hiring / promoting a woman.

For the few women that are in severe distress, sign them up for FMLA.  But most women get relatively mild symptoms and can handle it with regular sick time / PTO.
 
2020-11-22 10:18:41 AM  

silvervial: Would definitely have come in handy throughout my life. Starting in 8th grade, I would throw up the first two days of my period because of the flood of hormones. I usually didn't make it to the bathroom, so the hallways were liberally splashed and the janitors did not like it. I was given permission by the school to take two days off a month, just because they were tired of cleaning up vomit.

When I went on the pill at 15 to treat this issue, it was great. My periods never bothered me the entire time I was on BC. But I went off the pill at 33 because of stroke risks ... and then holy bloody hell descended on me again and lasted until menopause.

I had to schedule and take PTO for my periods from that point on. The pain, the sheer AMOUNT of blood loss, doubled over with cramps - endometriosis hit me really hard. I bled so much I became anemic and would get dizzy and feel faint. I am so happy its all over now and when I look back on how much I suffered -- just ridiculous that this is how our bodies "work".


I had a similar experience. Ended up with a hysterectomy at 31 years old. That has its own issues, but it was nice to be able to live life again.
 
2020-11-22 10:25:46 AM  
Just convince your female coworkers into pretending to be into "free bleeding" and HR will write a menstrual leave policy immediately
 
2020-11-22 10:36:49 AM  

Ishkur: NotARocketScientist: Every worker should have enough sick leave to take a couple days off a month and they should be able to take them at their own discretion.

This is pretty much standard practice in every other first world country and has been for decades. It's usually two or three paid days off per month, no questions asked.

It's not cumulative so you can't save them up. If you don't use them this month, they don't roll over next month.


I had a high-position job with 30 paid working days and around 12 sick days, no doctor's note needed.
Six figure take home, as well.
Sick days did roll over month to month, just in case someone got hit with something really bad, but not year to year.

Remind me again why I quit to be an entrepreneur?

/no regerts
//well, some regerts
///but wouldn't have had it another, it was and still is a wonderful ride
 
2020-11-22 10:39:12 AM  

Gramma: Taking off 10% of all work days for periods would in no way make people think twice about hiring / promoting a woman.

For the few women that are in severe distress, sign them up for FMLA.  But most women get relatively mild symptoms and can handle it with regular sick time / PTO.


depends on the job, imagine running an auto repair shop 50% of your staff is female and each month 1 takes a day off a week, lost productivity, and profits from not being fully staffed to take care of the customer's repair needs. try having a bay not making money. better 100 days worked, 10 days zero work being done. 10 day lost profits. 

service/retail jobs are hard to staff and tend to be short-handed as it is and giving up 10 days of work out of a 100. nah can't happen
 
2020-11-22 10:49:35 AM  
Hell, I take off a number of days a year for gastric reflux issues, I'm all for people staying home if they're exhausted from being in pain.  I'm very fortunate, I get unlimited sick days, I've never been asked for a note even after the month on-off work when I had kidney stones.  Boss even got onto me for showing up too soon and sent me home.  Granted I almost passed out in the lab, TG my buddy was there to get water and help me out.
Another buddy who passed of cancer a couple of years back was able to keep "working" full time to the end. It was only really probably 1/4 normal but I think it helped keep him motivated. /miss you Jim!!
 
2020-11-22 10:53:39 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Anyone's suffering disabling pain for any reason they need leave/time off - I don't care about causation.  Even if you're all about being an asshole, 10 seconds of thought will tell you that as an employer you are not getting anything useful out an employee that's fighting major pain.  Denying leave doesn't make sense from ethical or business standpoints.


FormlessOne: NotARocketScientist: Every worker should have enough sick leave to take a couple days off a month and they should be able to take them at their own discretion. This "we'll give you 4 days of sick leave/year and you need a doctor's note if you want to have more than 2 days in a row off" crap is BS.

This, obviously. Seriously, we're like the worst industrialized country on the planet when it comes to allowing workers to take time away from work. We don't require paid vacation time or paid holidays. No annual leave.

Eventually, we'll figure out that we've been getting the short end of the stick for half a century or so.


its the same logic chain that gets us things like "unemployment is just paying lazy people not to work"
and companies constantly reducing pay and benefits and increasing hours when multiple studies have shown the way to increase productivity is the opposite of that.  and the few that have tried it have proven it empirically.

there is an inherent conservative belief in this country that "the worker" is a lazy layabout who has to be beaten into working and will take any excuse or loophole to avoid it.  as much as we talk about the american dream of self-improvement and rising up through hard work and education and making it to a better class and social position...most americans, certainly the americans in power and setting the rules, don't actually believe that.

they believe the only way you arrive at the top level is to be born there or be lifted up by the hand of someone already at that level.  and being on their level is what magically makes you hard working and dedicated.  everyone below they is shifty and lazy and worthless and has to be regularly beaten and threatened to get any value out of them.
 
2020-11-22 11:21:04 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Just convince your female coworkers into pretending to be into "free bleeding" and HR will write a menstrual leave policy immediately


No they would be fired on the spot for biohazard policy violations
 
2020-11-22 11:35:58 AM  

Ishkur: Smackledorfer: Monthly use or lose leave seems like a horrible idea for any business that wants to be open the last week of the month.

Only cheaters and thieves think like this.

Responsible people living in well-run liberal democracies do not.


Where is the cheating? You didn't specify it was sick leave.
 
2020-11-22 11:36:18 AM  

oopsboom: there is an inherent conservative belief in this country that "the worker" is a lazy layabout who has to be beaten into working and will take any excuse or loophole to avoid it. as much as we talk about the american dream of self-improvement and rising up through hard work and education and making it to a better class and social position...most americans, certainly the americans in power and setting the rules, don't actually believe that.


You're looking at it wrong, since you're already among the people of the world who do the least actual work, probably. WORK, people. The actual physical labor that makes the world run, and look pretty, you hope, so that we don't collapse into Idiocracy. At the rate we're trashing things, that takes more people all the time, while the upper half of the population forgets all about that, and says that they WORK so hard--producing things that trash the planet even more.

The rich farks brainwashed you that way too. You're working for them, shiatting in your own bed, believing that because you moved up to an office and sit down all day, that you're somehow a better person than the guy mowing the lawn outside. When in truth, he's doing work that maintains all this gigantic illusion of health and security, while you do "work" that doesn't do anything but make more dirty work for people you never think anything about. (I am assuming your average office job. Maybe you're a preacher, trying to clean up trashed lives. Nothing personal.)

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"Wait--I'm pregnant again? But i have to work!"

Funny how the trends are always toward doing less actual work, and much more sitting around looking at a screen. Nice. This takes a great deal of service work to maintain, I mean so much, you don't have any idea, because you weren't paying attention, since that is beneath you.

Is your perfect world when everybody with any status just sits behind a screen all day, while hordes of underlings run around doing everything else, so that your precious IQ and your precious college degree and your precious skills can be preserved for your primary purpose in life--making money? This is your goal?.

I looked for a picture of "pregnant woman working" I got this.

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This is what you want, gals? I know you do. to always be clean, never break a fingernail, never stretch a muscle unless you're paying for it, never feel any real air on your face because it might mess up your hair, and never, ever, do any actual WORK.

What the fark is wrong with you? Your BABY is going to be born obese and entitled.
 
2020-11-22 11:37:07 AM  
this looks to be along the lines of,
some women will say yes to this (reasonably so from their POV and personal xp)
while some women would frame this as a sexist policy that ostracizes women and does not respect their privacy (reasonably so from their POV and personal xp).


You know the 60s/70s feminist angle that didn't leave room or a woman to want to be a home parent (or whatever not derogatory way you like to label that lifestyle). So alienated women that actually did choose that by acting like they could not make that choice on their own but were only ever brainwashed/culturally programed to do so.


Policy like that, that assumes of all the same, and that would make that personal info not a choice but company records...
I'd be real sure that's not getting unanimous female backing.
 
2020-11-22 11:37:43 AM  
1920s:  Us women deserve to work!  We deserve to vote!  We can do everything a man can do!

2020:  We're weak and feeble and need special benefits and treatment.
 
2020-11-22 11:38:16 AM  
If men had a menstrual cycle, we'd have a three week work month.
 
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