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(YouTube) Video 1990 Chevy 454 SS. Never driven? Check. Bought with matching baseball caps? Check. Seats still have plastic covers? Check. Washed once and then saved the wet dirt from under the car and kept it in a bag for thirty years? Check   (youtube.com) divider line
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2020-11-21 7:26:30 PM  
When he started that truck up I was horrified...with declared 30 year old oil ....with < 3 hrs runtime in 30 years....geez great way to fark that up.
 
2020-11-21 7:27:54 PM  
Okay, that shiat just got weird as it progressed. At the end of the day you still only have a mass produced Chevy truck. It's not a f*cking Ferrari, dude.
 
2020-11-21 7:53:59 PM  
The novelty and value derive from the fact that it's barely been driven, so you can never drive it or else it's just an old car.
 
2020-11-21 8:02:08 PM  

TheHighlandHowler: The novelty and value derive from the fact that it's barely been driven, so you can never drive it or else it's just an old car.


Aaaaaand decide if you are going to the advisable things such as: changing all gaskets, hoses, seals, and fluids.
Not using it doesn't change the fact that it is a 30-year-old car that has never received proper service. Otherwise you'll have to trailer everywhere to keep it "never been driven"
 
2020-11-21 8:05:42 PM  

Bslim: Okay, that shiat just got weird as it progressed. At the end of the day you still only have a mass produced Chevy truck. It's not a f*cking Ferrari, dude.


It will be interesting to see if he makes a profit. Take that cash, and the interest he paid, and work out if he made more than just sticking it in the stock market. The S+P has gone up around 600% since 1990 so since he paid just over $18k he needs to sell it for more than $120k to beat the stock market.

/I would have bought it but I was looking for one with the matching jacket that hasn't been worn.
//Stolen from the YT comments.
 
2020-11-21 8:09:45 PM  

Bslim: TheHighlandHowler: The novelty and value derive from the fact that it's barely been driven, so you can never drive it or else it's just an old car.

Aaaaaand decide if you are going to the advisable things such as: changing all gaskets, hoses, seals, and fluids.
Not using it doesn't change the fact that it is a 30-year-old car that has never received proper service. Otherwise you'll have to trailer everywhere to keep it "never been driven"


Drive it and the value drops from around a hundred thousand bucks to around a thousand.
 
2020-11-21 8:30:09 PM  
Comments claimed the truck was recently sold for $45,000.

If he'd invested $18,000 in September of 1989 (when he bought the vehicle) in an S&P 500 index fund, it would now be worth $282,000.

According to this site: https://dqydj.com/sp-500-period​ic-rein​vestment-calculator-dividends/
 
2020-11-21 8:43:15 PM  

SurfaceTension: Comments claimed the truck was recently sold for $45,000.

If he'd invested $18,000 in September of 1989 (when he bought the vehicle) in an S&P 500 index fund, it would now be worth $282,000.

According to this site: https://dqydj.com/sp-500-periodi​c-reinvestment-calculator-dividends/


Meh.

In other words, $18,000 in 1990 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $35,860.63 in 2020, a difference of $17,860.63 over 30 years. The 1990 inflation rate was 5.40%.


I don't know if $10k would be worth the trouble.
 
2020-11-21 8:52:27 PM  
Say what you will, I've driven a newer version of this truck and it's farking fun.
 
2020-11-21 10:03:58 PM  

SurfaceTension: Comments claimed the truck was recently sold for $45,000.

If he'd invested $18,000 in September of 1989 (when he bought the vehicle) in an S&P 500 index fund, it would now be worth $282,000.

According to this site: https://dqydj.com/sp-500-periodi​c-reinvestment-calculator-dividends/


$45K would be about right, given condition and mileage. Ironically, it would closer to $60K if it had been driven a bit more.

/ The trucks are popular with a certain class of redneck
 
2020-11-21 10:44:33 PM  
I'm assuming nobody started it up during all that time. Every consumable part on that truck will need to be replaced (Gaskets, hoses, belts, tires, etc)
 
2020-11-21 11:12:54 PM  

Bob Falfa: I'm assuming nobody started it up during all that time. Every consumable part on that truck will need to be replaced (Gaskets, hoses, belts, tires, etc)


Know how I know you didn't watch the video?
 
2020-11-22 12:08:09 AM  
How absolutely not to approach starting a dormant vehicle.
 
2020-11-22 12:12:34 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Bslim: Okay, that shiat just got weird as it progressed. At the end of the day you still only have a mass produced Chevy truck. It's not a f*cking Ferrari, dude.

It will be interesting to see if he makes a profit. Take that cash, and the interest he paid, and work out if he made more than just sticking it in the stock market. The S+P has gone up around 600% since 1990 so since he paid just over $18k he needs to sell it for more than $120k to beat the stock market.

/I would have bought it but I was looking for one with the matching jacket that hasn't been worn.
//Stolen from the YT comments.


But he financed it nobody would finance you to buy stock
 
2020-11-22 12:13:33 AM  

SurfaceTension: Comments claimed the truck was recently sold for $45,000.

If he'd invested $18,000 in September of 1989 (when he bought the vehicle) in an S&P 500 index fund, it would now be worth $282,000.

According to this site: https://dqydj.com/sp-500-periodi​c-reinvestment-calculator-dividends/


He would not have invested 45k he would have invested whatever down payment he had to put to get the loan for the 45k
 
2020-11-22 12:18:55 AM  

Bob Falfa: I'm assuming nobody started it up during all that time. Every consumable part on that truck will need to be replaced (Gaskets, hoses, belts, tires, etc)


Unless you want a Paul Walker reenactment...
 
2020-11-22 12:34:09 AM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: 30 year old oil


Isn't it already millions of years old?
 
2020-11-22 12:35:52 AM  

waxbeans: SurfaceTension: Comments claimed the truck was recently sold for $45,000.

If he'd invested $18,000 in September of 1989 (when he bought the vehicle) in an S&P 500 index fund, it would now be worth $282,000.

According to this site: https://dqydj.com/sp-500-periodi​c-reinvestment-calculator-dividends/

He would not have invested 45k he would have invested whatever down payment he had to put to get the loan for the 45k


Well he eventually had to pay all that back, plus interest. So if he had just saved that money at the same rate and invested it...sure, he would have done much better.

However it might not be as cool as what he did here.
 
2020-11-22 12:37:45 AM  

waxbeans: Carter Pewterschmidt: Bslim: Okay, that shiat just got weird as it progressed. At the end of the day you still only have a mass produced Chevy truck. It's not a f*cking Ferrari, dude.

It will be interesting to see if he makes a profit. Take that cash, and the interest he paid, and work out if he made more than just sticking it in the stock market. The S+P has gone up around 600% since 1990 so since he paid just over $18k he needs to sell it for more than $120k to beat the stock market.

/I would have bought it but I was looking for one with the matching jacket that hasn't been worn.
//Stolen from the YT comments.

But he financed it nobody would finance you to buy stock


Depends on whether you have other investments that could cover the amount financed- IOW buying on margin.
 
2020-11-22 12:38:04 AM  
Wow. A 30 year old pristine piece of shiat.
 
2020-11-22 12:40:29 AM  

Bob Falfa: I'm assuming nobody started it up during all that time. Every consumable part on that truck will need to be replaced (Gaskets, hoses, belts, tires, etc)


Not to mention the gas itself (not THAT hard of a thing to do), plus the internal parts of the engine that haven't had an ounce of moving fluid on them. WAY too much work at the end of the day, esp. considering it's value. Basically, this thing is little more than a full sized model of the original truck.
 
2020-11-22 12:42:08 AM  
that is a crappy old truck.

This is a 454 SS
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2020-11-22 12:43:35 AM  

Bat Guano: that is a crappy old truck.

This is a 454 SS
[assets.hemmings.com image 850x597]


FML
Was going to get one of those for graduation but got married instead that was one hell of a stupid move
 
2020-11-22 12:45:39 AM  

Bat Guano: that is a crappy old truck.

This is a 454 SS
[assets.hemmings.com image 850x597]


Which drives like a crappy old old truck?
 
2020-11-22 12:56:07 AM  
Aren't these the trucks that started the "Don't you buy no ugly truck" ad campaign?
 
2020-11-22 12:58:29 AM  

Bat Guano: that is a crappy old truck.

This is a 454 SS
[assets.hemmings.com image 850x597]


My cousin had one in white with black stripes and a black interior.  Even when I was young and bulletproof it would put you back in your seat hard enough to scare me a bit at how fast it was.  But it made me green with envy anyway.
 
2020-11-22 1:12:55 AM  

Znuh: How absolutely not to approach starting a dormant vehicle.


THIS.  I'm far from being a professional, but even I know that you should at least drain the gas tank, fill it with fresh gas, ditto the oil and why things like this were invented so you can turn the engine over by hand and insure that everything is properly primed before you turn the key to start the engine. Obviously it's been well protected in storage, but even so thirty years in storage is too long to just assume everything is ok and fire up the engine without checking.
https://paceperformance.com/images/F1​3​2026965
 
2020-11-22 1:20:24 AM  
My father had a 1985 Chevy Suburban with a 454.  It was awesome for about 3 or 4 years.  By 1990 it was struggling to keep up with Kias which is pathetic since Kias didn't even hit the US market until 1993 or so.

If the Chevy truck in the article were to be used as a typical Chevy truck of that era, it might have 3 good years in it - maybe more if you feel like repairing it when it starts breaking down a few times a year.

Ever wonder what happened to the old cars you used to drive?  I picture that old Suburban in a junkyard sometimes, but maybe somewhere someone is keeping it cobbled together with duct tape and baling wire.  I think it's safe to say my father's old 454 won't be at any car show anytime soon.
 
2020-11-22 1:44:34 AM  

puffy999: Say what you will, I've driven a newer version of this truck and it's farking fun.


But did t come with the original bag of dirt after it was first washed?
 
2020-11-22 1:59:04 AM  
Chevy's truck design was clean and smooth back then.
 
2020-11-22 2:10:53 AM  
It sounds like one of those six-word stories. For sale: old-ish Chevy, never driven.
 
2020-11-22 2:13:07 AM  
1) How the fark did they keep the tires from dry rotting?

2) How the fark did they do that and keep the ambient air moisture levels low enough to prevent eventual, gradual spot rusting?

3) How did they keep the belts and hoses from rotting off? I call bullshiat.

gunther_bumpass: Wow. A 30 year old pristine piece of shiat.


Did no one else notice the MPG listing on that thing?!? 10 City, 11 highway; might as well be a 1980 Ford in poor condition.

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: When he started that truck up I was horrified...with declared 30 year old oil ....with < 3 hrs runtime in 30 years....geez great way to fark that up.


I can't conceive of doing it for more than 3 minutes, tops, but it *can* be done. I have seen "barn find" VWs with oil waaaaay older than that get turned over and run without throwing rods... just don't let it get hot or actually try to drive it on the road above idle or you risk a lot of things including blowing every single gasket and seal.
 
2020-11-22 2:15:28 AM  

thespindrifter: 1) How the fark did they keep the tires from dry rotting?

2) How the fark did they do that and keep the ambient air moisture levels low enough to prevent eventual, gradual spot rusting?

3) How did they keep the belts and hoses from rotting off? I call bullshiat.

gunther_bumpass: Wow. A 30 year old pristine piece of shiat.

Did no one else notice the MPG listing on that thing?!? 10 City, 11 highway; might as well be a 1980 Ford in poor condition.

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: When he started that truck up I was horrified...with declared 30 year old oil ....with < 3 hrs runtime in 30 years....geez great way to fark that up.

I can't conceive of doing it for more than 3 minutes, tops, but it *can* be done. I have seen "barn find" VWs with oil waaaaay older than that get turned over and run without throwing rods... just don't let it get hot or actually try to drive it on the road above idle or you risk a lot of things including blowing every single gasket and seal.


So realistically what will it cost to drive this down the road, and not ruin the vehicle.
 
2020-11-22 2:21:17 AM  
CSB Incoming:
I've had the "pleasure" of driving two of those. One we used to flat-tow the 914-6 to the racetrack, the other belonged to the owner of the company where I worked.

I'd done a bunch of work to the second one and had taken it for a test drive and on my return to the shop I spied the owner of it in his office. SO I pulled up in front of the office and powerbraked the thing. Just held it there for a really long time. It was loud too. One of the things I'd done was add a full custom exhaust to it. Didn't take long for the guys to come out of the shop to see what the racket was all about, and there I was, full up brake standing the boss' truck, smoke billowing from the tires, engine howling. The guys were all shaking their heads, facepalming and walking away figuring I was sure to get fired for THIS one. WHat they didn't know was that the boss had gotten up from his desk and was standing at the window, HUGE grin on his face and giving me double thumbs up.

When I pulled into the shop, I was getting comments like, "Want help loading up your toolbox?" and "Nice working with you" when the boss comes running out from the office going, "GImme the keys! Gimme the keys!" He was like a little kid getting a new bike.

Bat Guano: that is a crappy old truck.

This is a 454 SS
[assets.hemmings.com image 850x597]


Agreed. (because my username checks out) There was one of those that used to get traded around that had something like 90 miles on it a few years ago. All original down to the bias ply tires and original dealer paperwork. It would sell for like $150k and then 3 months later be at another auction and sell for $175k. I think the last time I saw it up for sale it had made it to $200k and still had less than 100 miles on it. Sad really. Some poor bastard bought it in white with a red gut and was apparently too embarrassed to drive it.

Thanks for letting me share.
 
2020-11-22 2:28:29 AM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: When he started that truck up I was horrified...with declared 30 year old oil ....with < 3 hrs runtime in 30 years....geez great way to fark that up.


Don't worry, it's perfectly safe. The greasy thumbprint and tape residue on the window that's been carefully preserved for 30 years won't be affected at all by starting it up.
 
2020-11-22 2:59:49 AM  

styckx: Bob Falfa: I'm assuming nobody started it up during all that time. Every consumable part on that truck will need to be replaced (Gaskets, hoses, belts, tires, etc)

Know how I know you didn't watch the video?


Um, because I didn't watch it?
 
2020-11-22 3:03:04 AM  

My Sober Alt: Ever wonder what happened to the old cars you used to drive?  I picture that old Suburban in a junkyard sometimes, but maybe somewhere someone is keeping it cobbled together with duct tape and baling wire.  I think it's safe to say my father's old 454 won't be at any car show anytime soon.


I bought a 1968 Dodge Dart in 1980, when I was a high school senior; came with a 318. Couple years later I bought a shortblock assembly bored out .30 over, along with a pair of 340 heads with brand-new valves, springs and related other parts. Got it all assembled and bolted to an engine stand in the garage.

Over the next couple months I bought other high-performance stuff to add to the new engine: Edelbrock aluminum intake; 600 cfm Holley 4-barrel; Mallory 60,000 volt ignition coil (that coil burned the side electrodes off of normal spark plugs in less than a month; I finally had to get high-temperature Bosch plugs that were actually designed for aviation engines, IIRC); cast-aluminum valve covers; silicone-covered graphite spark plug wires (these were bleeding-edge technology at the time, but I got them after I realized the Mallory coil was burning up the plugs and got nervous about standard copper wiring getting too hot).

Few other cool gadgets, like a performance radiator fan that didn't have a mechanical clutch like most fans did at the time; it had curved blades made of stainless steel, so instead of a clutch slowing the fan down at speed, centrifugal force and air flow flattened the blades out at higher speeds.

I didn't install headers. It's hard to dial in the length and exhaust pressure and other factors present in the factory exhaust, and I always thought putting headers and glasspacks on a car just made a harsh, blatty exhaust sound. So I just welded up dualies and installed turbo mufflers rather than glasspacks. The car had a velvety smooth rumble that attracted a lot of attention when I was cruising with friends.

Later, after I installed the new engine, I rebuild the transmission and installed 4-11 differential.

Rebuilding and installing all the new/upgraded stuff was a hell of a lot of fun, but after another five years or so the time and expense for upkeep and maintenance got old, and there were a lot of other problems: The vinyl roof was falling apart; there was pretty serious rust eating up the body in various places; the door hinges were getting tweaked down, meaning you had to yank up on the doors while you closed them, and so on.

I wasn't making the kind of money that would let me get another car and make the Dart a project car; it was a radically fun hot rod, but as an only car I needed to go to work it was a pain in the ass.

So I traded it in o n a newer car.

About 10 years later, in 1996, if memory serves, I spotted the Dart on the road. I was shocked it was still in use; the vinyl roof was completely shredded away, leaving primer and rust everywhere; the back window was a trash bag; the rust made both front fenders look like Swiss cheese; you could hear the front end and the body creaking and groaning. The passenger door was bolted shut with a big outdoor gate hasp. It probably would have been wired shut with a hanger, but it was one of those cars without window frames or door posts, which looked really cool for a few years until the hinge started getting bent and the windows started to leak.

But it still had that velvety, rumbly exhaust note. I knew how much effort it took to keep the engine running that smoothly; when I sold the car I expected someone would cannibalize it for the engine and other performance parts. Someone apparently had the time and money to keep it tuned up, but couldn't afford or didn't care about all the other stuff that was falling apart.
 
2020-11-22 3:03:49 AM  

waxbeans: thespindrifter: 1) How the fark did they keep the tires from dry rotting?

2) How the fark did they do that and keep the ambient air moisture levels low enough to prevent eventual, gradual spot rusting?

3) How did they keep the belts and hoses from rotting off? I call bullshiat.

gunther_bumpass: Wow. A 30 year old pristine piece of shiat.

Did no one else notice the MPG listing on that thing?!? 10 City, 11 highway; might as well be a 1980 Ford in poor condition.

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: When he started that truck up I was horrified...with declared 30 year old oil ....with < 3 hrs runtime in 30 years....geez great way to fark that up.

I can't conceive of doing it for more than 3 minutes, tops, but it *can* be done. I have seen "barn find" VWs with oil waaaaay older than that get turned over and run without throwing rods... just don't let it get hot or actually try to drive it on the road above idle or you risk a lot of things including blowing every single gasket and seal.

So realistically what will it cost to drive this down the road, and not ruin the vehicle.


I'm guessing $200 - $300ish in gaskets, hoses, and belts, an oil change, new coolant (I am assuming the orig owner was smart enough to drain it and fill the block with preservatives of some kind), new trans fluid if it's an automatic, and eventually new brake fluid. That's if you know what you're doing and replace it all yourself.

Other areas of concern would be the rubber on the harmonic balancer, motor mounts, and the very real possibility that some of the relays and switches will be corroded and the engine ground would need to be replaced if the copper has oxidized.
 
2020-11-22 5:33:55 AM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: When he started that truck up I was horrified...with declared 30 year old oil


Do you know how old oil is?
 
2020-11-22 5:50:31 AM  

stan unusual: Znuh: How absolutely not to approach starting a dormant vehicle.

THIS.  I'm far from being a professional, but even I know that you should at least drain the gas tank, fill it with fresh gas, ditto the oil and why things like this were invented so you can turn the engine over by hand and insure that everything is properly primed before you turn the key to start the engine. Obviously it's been well protected in storage, but even so thirty years in storage is too long to just assume everything is ok and fire up the engine without checking.
https://paceperformance.com/images/F13​2026965


We don't know what he did before he started filming
 
2020-11-22 6:25:49 AM  
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2020-11-22 6:49:10 AM  
If the guy had bought an '83 DeLorean instead, it would be worth close to $150k if kept in the exact same condition.
 
2020-11-22 7:09:05 AM  
My neighbors kid had one of those. At the time car alarms with sensitivity alerts were the bees knees and everyone had one.  When that stupid truck ran half the car alarms in the neighborhood would start ringing.

You could hear him coming a few blocks away not necessarily from the exhaust tones, though they were loud and unique, but from the car alarms ringing simultaneously announcing his proximity as he paraded his ridiculous vehicle home.
 
2020-11-22 8:01:30 AM  

waxbeans: Carter Pewterschmidt: Bslim: Okay, that shiat just got weird as it progressed. At the end of the day you still only have a mass produced Chevy truck. It's not a f*cking Ferrari, dude.

It will be interesting to see if he makes a profit. Take that cash, and the interest he paid, and work out if he made more than just sticking it in the stock market. The S+P has gone up around 600% since 1990 so since he paid just over $18k he needs to sell it for more than $120k to beat the stock market.

/I would have bought it but I was looking for one with the matching jacket that hasn't been worn.
//Stolen from the YT comments.

But he financed it nobody would finance you to buy stock


You've never heard of buying on margin?
 
2020-11-22 8:21:00 AM  

Bslim: Okay, that shiat just got weird as it progressed. At the end of the day you still only have a mass produced Chevy truck. It's not a f*cking Ferrari, dude.


Coming from the guy w/ a mass produced POS mustang as an avatar.
 
2020-11-22 8:42:15 AM  

S10Calade: Bslim: Okay, that shiat just got weird as it progressed. At the end of the day you still only have a mass produced Chevy truck. It's not a f*cking Ferrari, dude.

Coming from the guy w/ a mass produced POS mustang as an avatar.


Did I ever claim Mustangs are not mass produced POS?

What exactly is your point here?
 
2020-11-22 8:51:53 AM  
Aaaaah, I see your username name, never mind, Skippy
 
2020-11-22 8:52:13 AM  
Gaga gotcha covered.
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2020-11-22 8:56:06 AM  

Bat Guano: that is a crappy old truck.

This is a 454 SS
[assets.hemmings.com image 850x597]


Alright alright alright

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2020-11-22 9:05:30 AM  

trappedspirit: Aren't these the trucks that started the "Don't you buy no ugly truck" ad campaign?


I kind of know the guy who started that campaign.  The studio I worked for shot a lot of the early spots back in the 80's, way before my time there.  I just heard the stories of him racking up these huge bilsl, wanting to cut deals after the fact, and then ultimately not paying.
 
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