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2020-11-21 5:30:09 PM  
It's all about political control, of course; Fox News (Murdoch) does not care about lives, but fluffing and agitating their armies of morons into permanent vexation. By the time Biden is sworn in the whole country will be ablaze.
 
2020-11-21 5:50:11 PM  
I never knew how literal this would end up being:

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2020-11-21 5:53:28 PM  
They deserve no help. Let them die.
 
2020-11-21 6:01:17 PM  
Get stuffed.
 
2020-11-21 6:43:15 PM  
You know what else conservatives? The best way to avoid COVID is to cook your stuff inside. Don't cook your turkey in a deep fryer on your wood deck because it will become steeped in COVID. Just  cook inside like they say on CNN.

/snert
 
2020-11-21 6:52:06 PM  
Republicans are people who think conspiring with the Russians to prevent America from electing commies is a good idea.

Maybe don't listen to them too much.
 
2020-11-21 7:09:04 PM  
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2020-11-21 7:35:47 PM  
I hope many anti-masker Americans make this thanksgiving one to remember for the rest of their lives, make it a memorable one.
/s
 
2020-11-21 7:38:03 PM  
I don't care about your politics. I don't want you to contract COVID-19. I don't want you to become ill. I don't want you to suffer long-term debilitation. I don't want you to die.

Please, for fark's sake, stop listening to people who do - people who believe that furthering this harm somehow betters or enriches their own situations, and so want you to ignore the CDC, the WHO, the scientists and the experts.

Stay home, if at all possible. If you can't stay home, wear a mask, practice social distancing, and carry hand sanitizer with you. If you have to bring stuff back home, practice sterile procedure. If you have to let people who don't live in your home into your home, ensure that they wear a mask, practice social distancing, and use hand sanitizer.

Don't be "paranoid," but do be aware of the risks involved, especially if you or anyone with whom you're in regular contact is in one of the high-risk groups. Don't be fearful; be responsible. You are now responsible not just for your own health, but for the health of those for whom you love & care. Don't be an idiot.
 
2020-11-21 7:39:38 PM  

Herb Utsmelz: They deserve no help. Let them die.


We would, but medical and public safety personnel don't have that option. If we could barricade them and deny services, yeah, let 'em all die.
 
2020-11-21 7:41:04 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: It's all about political control, of course; Fox News (Murdoch) does not care about lives, but fluffing and agitating their armies of morons into permanent vexation. By the time Biden is sworn in the whole country will be ablaze.


Remember the Maine!

Everything old is new again.
 
2020-11-21 7:41:35 PM  

FormlessOne: I don't care about your politics. I don't want you to contract COVID-19. I don't want you to become ill. I don't want you to suffer long-term debilitation. I don't want you to die.


I do. No you personally, but them. I'm cheering for Covid now in these geographies/social circles where the people have had every opportunity to get on board with safety, etc., but have chosen not to. Let them burn.
 
2020-11-21 7:42:23 PM  

KB202: Herb Utsmelz: They deserve no help. Let them die.

We would, but medical and public safety personnel don't have that option. If we could barricade them and deny services, yeah, let 'em all die.


I was promised Death Panels.
 
2020-11-21 7:42:30 PM  
Sorry, but the right wing is fetid garbage. I have zero respect for them and I give them zero mercy.  Trump supporting idiots need to be taught a severe and painful lesson.
 
2020-11-21 7:44:07 PM  
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2020-11-21 7:44:16 PM  
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2020-11-21 7:48:46 PM  
Rage, hate, and murder-encouraging tirades are a side effect of COVID.

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2020-11-21 7:49:14 PM  

Herb Utsmelz: They deserve no help. Let them die.


Agreed, but lets not limit our options here

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2020-11-21 7:52:54 PM  
Farkin' jeebus.

I'm an Australian living in a city where we had a 6 day lockdown announced this week because of suspected community COVID. A city of over a million folks shut down as hard as it could (could buy groceries but not takeaway food, couldn't walk the dog or leave the house for excercise etc). It turned out to be based on shiatty information (a guy lied to the contract tracing crew and it took a day to work out), now they've called off the shutdown after 3 days.

It won't have been great for our economy to shut down for three days (by the time restriction were lifted) but as a community I think we did really well. We adhered to the restrictions, a few hundred notices were issued by the cops but that's not many really, we wore masks and we didn't lose our shiat and panic-buy or get aggressive.

If you want to manage a viral epidemic, follow the public health advice. It's really that simple. Australia is doing great. Japan (far denser and larger population) is doing great. Because we don't regard wearing masks and social distancing as a bad thing when there's a really good reason for it.

We haven't lost our freedoms. We're self-curtailing them briefly to protect the freedoms of our aged, invalid and otherwise at risk folks. And we're not hating it.

The selfish arseholes demanding their Freedumbs in America while killing literally a quarter of a million of their countrymen in the process are appalling. They are lead by a disgusting lazy scumbag whose science ignorance has gotten the US to this point.
 
2020-11-21 7:54:27 PM  

Aussie_As: contract tracing crew


Contact tracing crew. Not contracted guys.
 
2020-11-21 7:54:39 PM  

Herb Utsmelz: They deserve no help. Let them die.


If they were only placing themselves at risk, in the manner of motorcyclists who insist on riding without a helmet "because freedom", I wouldn't care so much.  But by being cavalier about the risks involved with COVID, they're nonconsensually placing everyone they come in contact with at risk.
 
2020-11-21 7:57:55 PM  
3 weeks after thanksgiving

Why didn't you tell us?!!? Grandma and little Billy are dead now!
 
2020-11-21 8:00:44 PM  
See Dick refuse to wear a mask.
See Dick contract COVID-19.
See Dick die.
Don't be a Dick.
 
2020-11-21 8:01:35 PM  
Crowds at the airports....forget it man it's game over man.

My sympathies to the health care workers.
 
2020-11-21 8:05:07 PM  
Seriously, could someone please explain to me how this is different from yelling "FIRE!" In a crowded theater?
 
2020-11-21 8:07:19 PM  

Circusdog320: 3 weeks after thanksgiving

Why didn't you tell us?!!? Grandma and little Billy are dead now!


In July, in Texas, there was a graph showing the spike from the 4th of July on the 17th.  So it took about 13 days to really hit home from that community spread event.  It was a REALLY narrow spike.  People who got sick enough to end up in the hospital, took 13 days to get that bad.  Then on July 27th, we saw a massive spike in the death rate.  So about 10 days after admission to die.  It was a Google News covid tracker for Texas, but by August it was really clear and easy to see the trend.

Based on those numbers, I expect 13 days after Thanksgiving to be a real test of the hospitals, and 10 days after that to be a real test of the morgues.  Though I am skeptical of the narrow'ness of the bands in that data.  that was a super-tight spike on both the 17th and 27th.

Usually a spike that narrow means a certain type of infection, or a certain type of person getting it that is fairly well represented in the population.
 
2020-11-21 8:09:41 PM  
I still have to wonder why conservatives want the population sick/dead. Who benefits from this?
 
2020-11-21 8:10:09 PM  

edmo: You know what else conservatives? The best way to avoid COVID is to cook your stuff inside. Don't cook your turkey in a deep fryer on your wood deck because it will become steeped in COVID. Just  cook inside like they say on CNN.

/snert


If you do decide to deep fry your turkey, indoors or outdoors, remember to pull it out of the freezer and into the fridge Wednesday night.

/s
 
2020-11-21 8:13:58 PM  
If your family invites you to Thanksgiving, they love Trump more than you.
 
2020-11-21 8:14:44 PM  

Aussie_As: I'm an Australian living in a city


Yeah....But you still have a lot to apologize for for giving the world Rupert Murdoch. That's probably done more damage to human safety, and human rights than thing any other country has done. Even Mel Gibson movies.
 
2020-11-21 8:16:08 PM  

mainsail: I still have to wonder why conservatives want the population sick/dead. Who benefits from this?


The non-renewable energy sector worth trillions in the US and a massive supporter of the Republican Party.

Think it through.

You can't start blindly accepting science like public health virology when you've been engaged in a generation-long trashing of science which is in any way different to the science your granddaddy knew.

The fact your granddaddy might actually have lived in the time of the Spanish Flu when public health policy was found to be far superior in managing the situation than populist bullshiat is irrelevant.
 
2020-11-21 8:17:40 PM  

Herb Utsmelz: They deserve no help. Let them die.


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2020-11-21 8:17:56 PM  
Just sanitize you're dildo before you let your parents use it.
 
2020-11-21 8:18:14 PM  

Aussie_As: mainsail: I still have to wonder why conservatives want the population sick/dead. Who benefits from this?

The non-renewable energy sector worth trillions in the US and a massive supporter of the Republican Party.

Think it through.

You can't start blindly accepting science like public health virology when you've been engaged in a generation-long trashing of science which is in any way different to the science your granddaddy knew.

The fact your granddaddy might actually have lived in the time of the Spanish Flu when public health policy was found to be far superior in managing the situation than populist bullshiat is irrelevant.


And how does that explain the UK and Johnson? Only now with pressure from the population is the UK really trying anything (thumb-fingers all the way).
 
2020-11-21 8:18:21 PM  

Ragin' Asian: Just sanitize you're dildo before you let your parents use it.


Your
 
2020-11-21 8:18:43 PM  
Goose stepping with dear leader.
 
2020-11-21 8:19:19 PM  

mainsail: Aussie_As: mainsail: I still have to wonder why conservatives want the population sick/dead. Who benefits from this?

The non-renewable energy sector worth trillions in the US and a massive supporter of the Republican Party.

Think it through.

You can't start blindly accepting science like public health virology when you've been engaged in a generation-long trashing of science which is in any way different to the science your granddaddy knew.

The fact your granddaddy might actually have lived in the time of the Spanish Flu when public health policy was found to be far superior in managing the situation than populist bullshiat is irrelevant.

And how does that explain the UK and Johnson? Only now with pressure from the population is the UK really trying anything (thumb-fingers all the way).


Populists need to remain popular?
 
2020-11-21 8:20:01 PM  

FormlessOne: I don't care about your politics. I don't want you to contract COVID-19. I don't want you to become ill. I don't want you to suffer long-term debilitation. I don't want you to die.

Please, for fark's sake, stop listening to people who do - people who believe that furthering this harm somehow betters or enriches their own situations, and so want you to ignore the CDC, the WHO, the scientists and the experts.

Stay home, if at all possible. If you can't stay home, wear a mask, practice social distancing, and carry hand sanitizer with you. If you have to bring stuff back home, practice sterile procedure. If you have to let people who don't live in your home into your home, ensure that they wear a mask, practice social distancing, and use hand sanitizer.

Don't be "paranoid," but do be aware of the risks involved, especially if you or anyone with whom you're in regular contact is in one of the high-risk groups. Don't be fearful; be responsible. You are now responsible not just for your own health, but for the health of those for whom you love & care. Don't be an idiot.


they don't care.
 
2020-11-21 8:20:58 PM  
Don't worry they're tracking anyone who buys enough turkey to feed more than the max allowable gathering limits.

There will be consequences...


It's all under control folks.
 
2020-11-21 8:22:48 PM  

FormlessOne: I don't care about your politics. I don't want you to contract COVID-19. I don't want you to become ill. I don't want you to suffer long-term debilitation. I don't want you to die.

Please, for fark's sake, stop listening to people who do - people who believe that furthering this harm somehow betters or enriches their own situations, and so want you to ignore the CDC, the WHO, the scientists and the experts.

Stay home, if at all possible. If you can't stay home, wear a mask, practice social distancing, and carry hand sanitizer with you. If you have to bring stuff back home, practice sterile procedure. If you have to let people who don't live in your home into your home, ensure that they wear a mask, practice social distancing, and use hand sanitizer.

Don't be "paranoid," but do be aware of the risks involved, especially if you or anyone with whom you're in regular contact is in one of the high-risk groups. Don't be fearful; be responsible. You are now responsible not just for your own health, but for the health of those for whom you love & care. Don't be an idiot.


Meh. I say let 'em all drop dead. They're subhuman garbage. Every last one.

All I care about is the innocent people they infect and absolutely nothing else. I spend every waking moment getting anyone within my sphere of influence to take a militant stance on anything to do with these 'people'. It's a war and should be treated as such.
 
2020-11-21 8:23:07 PM  

optikeye: Aussie_As: I'm an Australian living in a city

Yeah....But you still have a lot to apologize for for giving the world Rupert Murdoch. That's probably done more damage to human safety, and human rights than thing any other country has done. Even Mel Gibson movies.


He's a US citizen mate, has been for years. You own him now.

/interesting Murdoch tale. His father, the late Sir Keith Murdoch, was an Australian WW1 correspondent from the front lines at Gallipoli. He challenged the military and its British leadership over their use of "over the top, boys" trench warfare attacks against Turkish soldiers well-armed and well-dug-in with German machine guns who were just cutting them to ribbons as they left the trench, yet the strategy continued. Murdoch Snr threatened to write articles for public consumption outlining the pointless slaughter of Australians and New Zealanders, a risky maneuver for a colonial nobody, and they stopped the useless and wasteful tactic.

Rupert is an appalling arsehole no two ways about it but his father changed WW1 history.
 
2020-11-21 8:25:04 PM  
If you are living your life being afraid you might die, then you are already dead.
 
2020-11-21 8:25:17 PM  
I'm not watching a goddamn video
 
2020-11-21 8:25:48 PM  

agent00pi: mainsail: Aussie_As: mainsail: I still have to wonder why conservatives want the population sick/dead. Who benefits from this?

The non-renewable energy sector worth trillions in the US and a massive supporter of the Republican Party.

Think it through.

You can't start blindly accepting science like public health virology when you've been engaged in a generation-long trashing of science which is in any way different to the science your granddaddy knew.

The fact your granddaddy might actually have lived in the time of the Spanish Flu when public health policy was found to be far superior in managing the situation than populist bullshiat is irrelevant.

And how does that explain the UK and Johnson? Only now with pressure from the population is the UK really trying anything (thumb-fingers all the way).

Populists need to remain popular?


How popular when your followers are dead?
 
2020-11-21 8:25:54 PM  

Aussie_As: optikeye: Aussie_As: I'm an Australian living in a city

Yeah....But you still have a lot to apologize for for giving the world Rupert Murdoch. That's probably done more damage to human safety, and human rights than thing any other country has done. Even Mel Gibson movies.

He's a US citizen mate, has been for years. You own him now.

/interesting Murdoch tale. His father, the late Sir Keith Murdoch, was an Australian WW1 correspondent from the front lines at Gallipoli. He challenged the military and its British leadership over their use of "over the top, boys" trench warfare attacks against Turkish soldiers well-armed and well-dug-in with German machine guns who were just cutting them to ribbons as they left the trench, yet the strategy continued. Murdoch Snr threatened to write articles for public consumption outlining the pointless slaughter of Australians and New Zealanders, a risky maneuver for a colonial nobody, and they stopped the useless and wasteful tactic.

Rupert is an appalling arsehole no two ways about it but his father changed WW1 history.


Okay...but you get to keep "Australia First" lady...whatever her name is.
 
2020-11-21 8:26:28 PM  
I don't know if I have Covid, but I could wish the combination of whatever the f*ck kept me unable to even knit and bipolar mania on every single dipshiat doing this. You don't care enough about other people to keep yourself to yourself for a year? Especially when it could've been a few months if not for you? Go f*ck yourself.
 
2020-11-21 8:26:49 PM  

Ragin' Asian: Ragin' Asian: Just sanitize you're dildo before you let your parents use it.

Your


It's not your/you're dildo, it's *A* dildo
 
2020-11-21 8:27:57 PM  

Aussie_As: Farkin' jeebus.

I'm an Australian living in a city where we had a 6 day lockdown announced this week because of suspected community COVID. A city of over a million folks shut down as hard as it could (could buy groceries but not takeaway food, couldn't walk the dog or leave the house for excercise etc). It turned out to be based on shiatty information (a guy lied to the contract tracing crew and it took a day to work out), now they've called off the shutdown after 3 days.

It won't have been great for our economy to shut down for three days (by the time restriction were lifted) but as a community I think we did really well. We adhered to the restrictions, a few hundred notices were issued by the cops but that's not many really, we wore masks and we didn't lose our shiat and panic-buy or get aggressive.

If you want to manage a viral epidemic, follow the public health advice. It's really that simple. Australia is doing great. Japan (far denser and larger population) is doing great. Because we don't regard wearing masks and social distancing as a bad thing when there's a really good reason for it.

We haven't lost our freedoms. We're self-curtailing them briefly to protect the freedoms of our aged, invalid and otherwise at risk folks. And we're not hating it.

The selfish arseholes demanding their Freedumbs in America while killing literally a quarter of a million of their countrymen in the process are appalling. They are lead by a disgusting lazy scumbag whose science ignorance has gotten the US to this point.


Yeah, we can't do that here because we a have a shiat ton of selfish, brainwashed, cultist assholes. They need to be eliminated by any means possible.
 
2020-11-21 8:28:04 PM  

Deathbymombasa: If you are living your life being afraid you might die, then you are already dead.


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2020-11-21 8:34:11 PM  

FormlessOne: I don't care about your politics. I don't want you to contract COVID-19. I don't want you to become ill. I don't want you to suffer long-term debilitation. I don't want you to die.

Please, for fark's sake, stop listening to people who do - people who believe that furthering this harm somehow betters or enriches their own situations, and so want you to ignore the CDC, the WHO, the scientists and the experts.

Stay home, if at all possible. If you can't stay home, wear a mask, practice social distancing, and carry hand sanitizer with you. If you have to bring stuff back home, practice sterile procedure. If you have to let people who don't live in your home into your home, ensure that they wear a mask, practice social distancing, and use hand sanitizer.

Don't be "paranoid," but do be aware of the risks involved, especially if you or anyone with whom you're in regular contact is in one of the high-risk groups. Don't be fearful; be responsible. You are now responsible not just for your own health, but for the health of those for whom you love & care. Don't be an idiot.


You know what?  I used to think like you...Then in August while people were out ignoring the guidelines this happened: Nearly 10% of postal workers (my coworkers) nationwide have tested positive for COVID-19.  Now we're well past that.  Now I'm ready to watch it burn.  You don't want to follow guidelines?  Fine.  But don't ask for any help when the economy is toast, when even those with money can't buy proper care, and enjoy that Turkey, because who knows if you'll be intubated by Christmas.
 
2020-11-21 8:35:33 PM  

aungen: Rage, hate, and murder-encouraging tirades are a side effect of COVID.

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Damnit I had COVID in the 1990s then
 
2020-11-21 8:37:33 PM  

stuffy: Goose stepping with dear leader.


Sorry, you have to wait till January before you can start doing that.
 
2020-11-21 8:40:15 PM  

doomjesse: aungen: Rage, hate, and murder-encouraging tirades are a side effect of COVID.

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Damnit I had COVID in the 1990s then


I heard that it's not actually 'roid rage.  It's early-onset COVID.
 
2020-11-21 8:42:10 PM  

Sean VasDeferens: stuffy: Goose stepping with dear leader.

Sorry, you have to wait till January before you can start doing that.


So sad that you don't even try anymore.

I guess times are hard
 
2020-11-21 8:43:11 PM  

o4tuna: Seriously, could someone please explain to me how this is different from yelling "FIRE!" In a crowded theater?


Yelling "FIRE" isn't likely to kill the ushers grandmother who wasn't even at the theater?
 
2020-11-21 8:43:49 PM  
You all biatch about Trump, but his approach to the covid vaccine (Private industry competition) is why we are on the cusp of two vaccines being released.

Also, for all you progressives dancing in the streets right now, get back to me when gas is $5.00 and the economy is wrecked.

Oh....that will be Trump's fault too.

Morons.
 
2020-11-21 8:44:56 PM  

aungen: Circusdog320: 3 weeks after thanksgiving

Why didn't you tell us?!!? Grandma and little Billy are dead now!

In July, in Texas, there was a graph showing the spike from the 4th of July on the 17th.  So it took about 13 days to really hit home from that community spread event.  It was a REALLY narrow spike.  People who got sick enough to end up in the hospital, took 13 days to get that bad.  Then on July 27th, we saw a massive spike in the death rate.  So about 10 days after admission to die.  It was a Google News covid tracker for Texas, but by August it was really clear and easy to see the trend.

Based on those numbers, I expect 13 days after Thanksgiving to be a real test of the hospitals, and 10 days after that to be a real test of the morgues.  Though I am skeptical of the narrow'ness of the bands in that data.  that was a super-tight spike on both the 17th and 27th.

Usually a spike that narrow means a certain type of infection, or a certain type of person getting it that is fairly well represented in the population.


You also had less noise due to Covid not yet being everywhere in July. More noise in that signal now.
 
2020-11-21 8:45:54 PM  

Ragin' Asian: Ragin' Asian: Just sanitize you're dildo before you let your parents use it.

Your


The. Never your dildo.
 
2020-11-21 8:52:21 PM  

Circusdog320: 3 weeks after thanksgiving

Why didn't you tell us?!!? Grandma and little Billy are dead now!


Nah. They Died for Trump. That means they're in Heaven, and those damn liberals gotta pay. Boogaloo!
 
2020-11-21 8:52:22 PM  

Boo_Guy: Don't worry they're tracking anyone who buys enough turkey to feed more than the max allowable gathering limits.

There will be consequences...


It's all under control folks.


Reminds me of stories back in the day if you bought "too much" stuff at a hydroponics store, you would get flagged.

Except, you know, that actually was a real thing.
 
2020-11-21 8:52:44 PM  

aungen: Circusdog320: 3 weeks after thanksgiving

Why didn't you tell us?!!? Grandma and little Billy are dead now!

In July, in Texas, there was a graph showing the spike from the 4th of July on the 17th.  So it took about 13 days to really hit home from that community spread event.  It was a REALLY narrow spike.  People who got sick enough to end up in the hospital, took 13 days to get that bad.  Then on July 27th, we saw a massive spike in the death rate.  So about 10 days after admission to die.  It was a Google News covid tracker for Texas, but by August it was really clear and easy to see the trend.

Based on those numbers, I expect 13 days after Thanksgiving to be a real test of the hospitals, and 10 days after that to be a real test of the morgues.  Though I am skeptical of the narrow'ness of the bands in that data.  that was a super-tight spike on both the 17th and 27th.

Usually a spike that narrow means a certain type of infection, or a certain type of person getting it that is fairly well represented in the population.


Your analysis sounds sensible.  So, let us all remember - December 9th for the hospitalization spikes, and December 19th for the deaths.  Happy Holidays everyone!
 
2020-11-21 8:52:56 PM  
These people aren't human and I'm sick of treating them as such.
 
2020-11-21 8:53:46 PM  

Aussie_As: They are lead by a disgusting lazy scumbag whose science ignorance has gotten the US to this point.


Trump is a symptom, not a cause.  He's what you get when you teach creationism and climate change denialism as "science", abstinence-only as "sex education", and the Lost Cause myth of the US Civil War as "history".  And there's about 70 million Americans who think he's doing a bang-up job and voted for him to be re-elected.  Even after Joe Biden is sworn in on January 20th of next year, we're still stuck with those people.
 
2020-11-21 8:54:36 PM  

BlackChickWhiteAccent: Aussie_As: Farkin' jeebus.

I'm an Australian living in a city where we had a 6 day lockdown announced this week because of suspected community COVID. A city of over a million folks shut down as hard as it could (could buy groceries but not takeaway food, couldn't walk the dog or leave the house for excercise etc). It turned out to be based on shiatty information (a guy lied to the contract tracing crew and it took a day to work out), now they've called off the shutdown after 3 days.

It won't have been great for our economy to shut down for three days (by the time restriction were lifted) but as a community I think we did really well. We adhered to the restrictions, a few hundred notices were issued by the cops but that's not many really, we wore masks and we didn't lose our shiat and panic-buy or get aggressive.

If you want to manage a viral epidemic, follow the public health advice. It's really that simple. Australia is doing great. Japan (far denser and larger population) is doing great. Because we don't regard wearing masks and social distancing as a bad thing when there's a really good reason for it.

We haven't lost our freedoms. We're self-curtailing them briefly to protect the freedoms of our aged, invalid and otherwise at risk folks. And we're not hating it.

The selfish arseholes demanding their Freedumbs in America while killing literally a quarter of a million of their countrymen in the process are appalling. They are lead by a disgusting lazy scumbag whose science ignorance has gotten the US to this point.

Honey, we've got 50 states with 50 different approaches. We are united in name only. Red states do whatever the fark they want, and blue states half ass do the rest.

We have a GDP of 22 trillion, but don't you dare ask the government to do everything it can to give the citizens of the richest country in the world. Aid and comfort are for the politicians, and the rich. Our government is floundering like a fish out of water during the most difficult ...


But, but the socialisms, donchya know!

Seriously though, I couldn't have articulated what you said any better. That's why now is the time to rise and fight and never stop. They enemy won't, so we can't either.
 
2020-11-21 8:56:56 PM  
They're going to act like victims when they lose family to covid.

I care about people willing to take a deadly pandemic seriously like serious adults.

I don't care about these plague rats. Let them gargle their own lung fluid.
 
2020-11-21 9:00:15 PM  

Chinesenookiefactory: You all biatch about Trump, but his approach to the covid vaccine (Private industry competition) is why we are on the cusp of two vaccines being released.

Also, for all you progressives dancing in the streets right now, get back to me when gas is $5.00 and the economy is wrecked.

Oh....that will be Trump's fault too.

Morons.


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2020-11-21 9:00:22 PM  

ZephyrHawk: Your analysis sounds sensible. So, let us all remember - December 9th for the hospitalization spikes, and December 19th for the deaths. Happy Holidays everyone!


I was accidentally serious for a moment.  I'd like to check that data one more time and see if it's really like that.  Will be back in a bit with a thumbs up/down.   It's bad science to base anything on it.  But I've got those dates in my head, as well.

Much like the wave of cold & flu that comes 2 weeks after the first night of frost on the ground.  I don't expect it to be exactly on the day, but those spikes were really specific.  So it might be.  Ok ... lets see if I remembered what I saw, correctly...
 
2020-11-21 9:01:37 PM  
My Trump loving family members called to tell us we're not invited to dinner because of Covid-19.  To believe that the pandemic takes holidays off requires people to be a special kind of special.
 
2020-11-21 9:02:37 PM  
Maybe newsome shouldn't eat out at a fancy restaurant. Maybe Pelosi shouldn't go to a salon.

Rules for thee, not for me.

Hypocrisy is the true problem.
 
2020-11-21 9:03:19 PM  
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2020-11-21 9:05:47 PM  

Sean VasDeferens: stuffy: Goose stepping with dear leader.

Sorry, you have to wait till January before you can start doing that.


Low energy. Sad.
 
2020-11-21 9:06:44 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: It's all about political control, of course; Fox News (Murdoch) does not care about lives, but fluffing and agitating their armies of morons into permanent vexation. By the time Biden is sworn in the whole country will be ablaze.


You know what should be ablaze? Fox news offices with tucker, hannity and the other trash inside.
 
2020-11-21 9:06:51 PM  

neongoats: They're going to act like victims when they lose family to covid.

I care about people willing to take a deadly pandemic seriously like serious adults.

I don't care about these plague rats. Let them gargle their own lung fluid.


They live in alternate realities where they're forever persecuted. This is something we cannot fix. Anything, and I mean anything you say or do will only entrench them further into their delusion. There's no easy way out of this and I certainly don't have any answers. All I do is try and metaphorically smash their faces in their shiat, as it at least gives me some level of satisfaction.
 
2020-11-21 9:07:40 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Chinesenookiefactory: ~snipped for stupidity~

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Seems you have at least a bit of time for it since you replied to it.

Stop giving it attention.
 
2020-11-21 9:08:07 PM  
It's one Thanksgiving in a lifetime of them, same as Xmas. Just let it go. Next year will be here soon enough.

Actually, fark it. Get Covid...spread it to your Trump supporting family members, and farkin' die. Hand us the the Senate, the House, every state's governoship and state house/senate. We'll be overjoyed to have unilateral control. Enjoy the stuffing, arseholes.
 
2020-11-21 9:09:33 PM  

bobbyjoebobby: Maybe newsome shouldn't eat out at a fancy restaurant. Maybe Pelosi shouldn't go to a salon.

Rules for thee, not for me.

Hypocrisy is the true problem.


Is it though? Really? Like every nutjob wasn't crying tyranny right from the onset?

Piss off with your pathetic BSAB garbage 'human'
 
2020-11-21 9:09:37 PM  

The Four Ringer: Aussie_As: Farkin' jeebus.

I'm an Australian living in a city where we had a 6 day lockdown announced this week because of suspected community COVID. A city of over a million folks shut down as hard as it could (could buy groceries but not takeaway food, couldn't walk the dog or leave the house for excercise etc). It turned out to be based on shiatty information (a guy lied to the contract tracing crew and it took a day to work out), now they've called off the shutdown after 3 days.

It won't have been great for our economy to shut down for three days (by the time restriction were lifted) but as a community I think we did really well. We adhered to the restrictions, a few hundred notices were issued by the cops but that's not many really, we wore masks and we didn't lose our shiat and panic-buy or get aggressive.

If you want to manage a viral epidemic, follow the public health advice. It's really that simple. Australia is doing great. Japan (far denser and larger population) is doing great. Because we don't regard wearing masks and social distancing as a bad thing when there's a really good reason for it.

We haven't lost our freedoms. We're self-curtailing them briefly to protect the freedoms of our aged, invalid and otherwise at risk folks. And we're not hating it.

The selfish arseholes demanding their Freedumbs in America while killing literally a quarter of a million of their countrymen in the process are appalling. They are lead by a disgusting lazy scumbag whose science ignorance has gotten the US to this point.

Yeah, we can't do that here because we a have a shiat ton of selfish, brainwashed, cultist assholes. They need to be eliminated by any means possible.


Like COVID?
 
2020-11-21 9:10:10 PM  

bobbyjoebobby: Maybe newsome shouldn't eat out at a fancy restaurant. Maybe Pelosi shouldn't go to a salon.

Rules for thee, not for me.

Hypocrisy is the true problem.


Maybe the public should listen to all the medical professionals/etc and do the right thing while ignoring dumbass politicians. Or, you know, do nothing, whine about how the politicians are hypocrites, get sick, and possibly die.
 
2020-11-21 9:10:13 PM  
Freedom has become a very selfish thing.
All you hear is *My Freedom*, "I Have the Freedom to...* etc.

Freedom used to be an act of generosity, we granted each other freedom.

Now it's a selfish act of aggression.
 
2020-11-21 9:10:29 PM  

bobbyjoebobby: Maybe newsome shouldn't eat out at a fancy restaurant. Maybe Pelosi shouldn't go to a salon.

Rules for thee, not for me.

Hypocrisy is the true problem.


Yes, your hypocrisy is the problem.
 
2020-11-21 9:11:36 PM  

It'sMorphin'Time: I don't know if I have Covid, but I could wish the combination of whatever the f*ck kept me unable to even knit and bipolar mania on every single dipshiat doing this. You don't care enough about other people to keep yourself to yourself for a year? Especially when it could've been a few months if not for you? Go f*ck yourself.


Yeah. CSB. Some of have to work outside the house without a computer for a living.
 
2020-11-21 9:12:05 PM  

Chinesenookiefactory: You all biatch about Trump, but his approach to the covid vaccine (Private industry competition) is why we are on the cusp of two vaccines being released.

Also, for all you progressives dancing in the streets right now, get back to me when gas is $5.00 and the economy is wrecked.

Oh....that will be Trump's fault too.

Morons.


One day if you mature emotionally, you will realize that the orange man really was bad. Until then, no one can help you.
 
2020-11-21 9:12:07 PM  

aungen: ZephyrHawk: Your analysis sounds sensible. So, let us all remember - December 9th for the hospitalization spikes, and December 19th for the deaths. Happy Holidays everyone!

I was accidentally serious for a moment.  I'd like to check that data one more time and see if it's really like that.  Will be back in a bit with a thumbs up/down.   It's bad science to base anything on it.  But I've got those dates in my head, as well.

Much like the wave of cold & flu that comes 2 weeks after the first night of frost on the ground.  I don't expect it to be exactly on the day, but those spikes were really specific.  So it might be.  Ok ... lets see if I remembered what I saw, correctly...

So...

Analysis:  It was July 16th, not 17th.  This gives us a 14-day lag between the 4th of July and the surge.  This won't be a predictor unless we see it repeat.  So lets take Labor Day, and see if we get anything on Sept. 21st.

Uh ... yeah.  So 14 days is probably a good indicator.  Mark December 8th on your calendar.  It's only 2 examples, but that was exactly 14 days again.

If you want to see what I'm looking at, it's the New York Times' cases over time (new cases, per day), for Texas, which isn't going to pass up a chance to fire up the grill.

We should also take into account any lag in reporting.  If that is 2 days, then look for lines of cars at urgent care or hospitals around the 6th.
 
2020-11-21 9:12:34 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: It's all about political control, of course; Fox News (Murdoch) does not care about lives, but fluffing and agitating their armies of morons into permanent vexation. By the time Biden is sworn in the whole country will be ablaze.


How you write that in Chinese?
 
2020-11-21 9:16:05 PM  

Trik: Freedom has become a very selfish thing.
All you hear is *My Freedom*, "I Have the Freedom to...* etc.

Freedom used to be an act of generosity, we granted each other freedom.

Now it's a selfish act of aggression.


It's precisely why you cannot have a truly free country. Mark my words, the freedoms we think we enjoy won't be exist for much longer. They simply not sustainable.
 
2020-11-21 9:23:48 PM  

bobbyjoebobby: Maybe newsome shouldn't eat out at a fancy restaurant. Maybe Pelosi shouldn't go to a salon.

Rules for thee, not for me.

Hypocrisy is the true problem.


The ranks of GOP politicians are being decimated by COVID.  The infection rates in deep red 'paradises' like North and South Dakota continue to skyrocket.
 
2020-11-21 9:24:03 PM  
And I got that wrong, too.  4th of July to the 16th is only 12 days.  And the Labor Day spread was 14 days.  So it's not exact.
 
2020-11-21 9:29:17 PM  

bobbyjoebobby: It'sMorphin'Time: I don't know if I have Covid, but I could wish the combination of whatever the f*ck kept me unable to even knit and bipolar mania on every single dipshiat doing this. You don't care enough about other people to keep yourself to yourself for a year? Especially when it could've been a few months if not for you? Go f*ck yourself.

Yeah. CSB. Some of have to work outside the house without a computer for a living.


...Yes, I spend my days--when I'm not sick--making American flags for the bereaved of soldiers. How do you think I got this?
 
2020-11-21 9:29:31 PM  

BrianGriffin: It's one Thanksgiving in a lifetime...fark it. Get Covid...spread it to your Trump supporting family members, and farkin' die.


According to News accounts, Covid disproportionately impacts POC. So not really something for Trump's base to worry about.
 
2020-11-21 9:35:22 PM  
I think everyone should be mocking the CDC's guidelines. Has anyone actually looked at them?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-n​cov/daily-life-coping/holidays/thanksg​iving.html

It's basically a joke. 'Hey it's safer not to get together, but if you will just, ya know, wash your hands and don't spit in the food...'

"Don't drink and drive, but if you choose too here are some tips... Remember to wear your seatbelt and turn on your headlights. Try to pull over while vomiting."
 
2020-11-21 9:35:24 PM  

BlackChickWhiteAccent: We have a GDP of 22 trillion, but don't you dare ask the government to do everything it can to give the citizens of the richest country in the world. Aid and comfort are for the politicians, and the rich. Our government is floundering like a fish out of water during the most difficult mental, physical, and economic crisis of our lifetimes.

...

Man, I used to think we were great. Evil, but great. Rock groups and actors came here to be famous. We were the shiat! Now, we're just shiat.


Awesome post, thanks.

In some ways Trump is just another step on the path America's Republican Presidents have been on since Nixon. Win power, impose policy despite science or rational thinking because cashed up lobbyists, get campaigns funded by lobbyists, repeat.

I've previously argued on Fark that Trump is much less evil than Cheney. Cheney was intelligent and actively, busily evil. Trump is dumb, in denial and lazy. Evil requires active intent, Trump wants to be loved but can't be arsed doing his job properly. Trump's COVID death toll is arguably higher than the Iraq death toll but unlike Cheney Trump never got paid off for his deaths caused.
 
2020-11-21 9:36:44 PM  

mainsail: I still have to wonder why conservatives want the population sick/dead. Who benefits from this?


It predominantly impacts brown people
 
2020-11-21 9:39:18 PM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: BrianGriffin: It's one Thanksgiving in a lifetime...fark it. Get Covid...spread it to your Trump supporting family members, and farkin' die.

According to News accounts, Covid disproportionately impacts POC. So not really something for Trump's base to worry about.


Um... you DO understand that POC aren't somehow more infectious or catch Covid easier than white people right? They are disproportionately impacted because they have fewer viable treatment options if they catch it and are less likely to work in jobs that can be done remotely so are more likely to encounter someone who is infected.
 
2020-11-21 9:41:10 PM  

KB202: Herb Utsmelz: They deserve no help. Let them die.

We would, but medical and public safety personnel don't have that option. If we could barricade them and deny services, yeah, let 'em all die.

Soon you will get your chance.  Hang in there a couple more weeks.

 
2020-11-21 9:41:27 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: I think everyone should be mocking the CDC's guidelines. Has anyone actually looked at them?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-n​cov/daily-life-coping/holidays/thanksg​iving.html

It's basically a joke. 'Hey it's safer not to get together, but if you will just, ya know, wash your hands and don't spit in the food...'

"Don't drink and drive, but if you choose too here are some tips... Remember to wear your seatbelt and turn on your headlights. Try to pull over while vomiting."


CDC and WHO been all over the map since day one.
 
2020-11-21 9:42:49 PM  

bobbyjoebobby: The Four Ringer: Aussie_As: Farkin' jeebus.

I'm an Australian living in a city where we had a 6 day lockdown announced this week because of suspected community COVID. A city of over a million folks shut down as hard as it could (could buy groceries but not takeaway food, couldn't walk the dog or leave the house for excercise etc). It turned out to be based on shiatty information (a guy lied to the contract tracing crew and it took a day to work out), now they've called off the shutdown after 3 days.

It won't have been great for our economy to shut down for three days (by the time restriction were lifted) but as a community I think we did really well. We adhered to the restrictions, a few hundred notices were issued by the cops but that's not many really, we wore masks and we didn't lose our shiat and panic-buy or get aggressive.

If you want to manage a viral epidemic, follow the public health advice. It's really that simple. Australia is doing great. Japan (far denser and larger population) is doing great. Because we don't regard wearing masks and social distancing as a bad thing when there's a really good reason for it.

We haven't lost our freedoms. We're self-curtailing them briefly to protect the freedoms of our aged, invalid and otherwise at risk folks. And we're not hating it.

The selfish arseholes demanding their Freedumbs in America while killing literally a quarter of a million of their countrymen in the process are appalling. They are lead by a disgusting lazy scumbag whose science ignorance has gotten the US to this point.

Yeah, we can't do that here because we a have a shiat ton of selfish, brainwashed, cultist assholes. They need to be eliminated by any means possible.

Like COVID?


Are you suggesting that COVID was designed to eliminate brainwashed, cultist assholes, and you feel that you are personally targeted somehow?

I mean, there are dumber conspiracy theories out there, but that's kinda farking hilarious in its own way.
 
2020-11-21 9:43:33 PM  

FlyingBacon: Fark_Guy_Rob: I think everyone should be mocking the CDC's guidelines. Has anyone actually looked at them?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-n​cov/daily-life-coping/holidays/thanksg​iving.html

It's basically a joke. 'Hey it's safer not to get together, but if you will just, ya know, wash your hands and don't spit in the food...'

"Don't drink and drive, but if you choose too here are some tips... Remember to wear your seatbelt and turn on your headlights. Try to pull over while vomiting."

CDC and WHO been all over the map since day one.


Please give examples.
 
2020-11-21 9:44:03 PM  

FlyingBacon: Fark_Guy_Rob: I think everyone should be mocking the CDC's guidelines. Has anyone actually looked at them?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-n​cov/daily-life-coping/holidays/thanksg​iving.html

It's basically a joke. 'Hey it's safer not to get together, but if you will just, ya know, wash your hands and don't spit in the food...'

"Don't drink and drive, but if you choose too here are some tips... Remember to wear your seatbelt and turn on your headlights. Try to pull over while vomiting."

CDC and WHO been all over the map since day one.


Can't imagine who was in charge of the messaging. Such a mystery, huh?
 
2020-11-21 9:45:50 PM  

trialpha: bobbyjoebobby: Maybe newsome shouldn't eat out at a fancy restaurant. Maybe Pelosi shouldn't go to a salon.

Rules for thee, not for me.

Hypocrisy is the true problem.

Maybe the public should listen to all the medical professionals/etc and do the right thing while ignoring dumbass politicians. Or, you know, do nothing, whine about how the politicians are hypocrites, get sick, and possibly die.


False dilemma

We can follow guidelines *and* call out politicians for being hypocritical pieces of crap. Like my Mayor who took to the streets to celebrate with the crowd of Biden supporters, often seen with a mask around her neck instead of being worn.

While otherwise condemning other politicians for not acting appropriately and taking covid seriously enough, and telling us peasants to stay at home and socially distance.
 
2020-11-21 9:50:22 PM  

RonRon893: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: BrianGriffin: It's one Thanksgiving in a lifetime...fark it. Get Covid...spread it to your Trump supporting family members, and farkin' die.

According to News accounts, Covid disproportionately impacts POC. So not really something for Trump's base to worry about.

Um... you DO understand that POC aren't somehow more infectious or catch Covid easier than white people right? They are disproportionately impacted because they have fewer viable treatment options if they catch it and are less likely to work in jobs that can be done remotely so are more likely to encounter someone who is infected.


It's about obesity and diabetes, mainly.  A lot of POC have terrible eating habits, and are in no condition to fight off a serious disease.

Especially one as aggressive as the one Slow Joe's commie buddies have unleashed on us.
 
2020-11-21 9:51:09 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: False dilemma

We can follow guidelines *and* call out politicians for being hypocritical pieces of crap. Like my Mayor who took to the streets to celebrate with the crowd of Biden supporters, often seen with a mask around her neck instead of being worn.

While otherwise condemning other politicians for not acting appropriately and taking covid seriously enough, and telling us peasants to stay at home and socially distance.


Sorry, replace "whine about how the politicians are hypocrites" with "use politicians being hypocrites as justification for doing nothing".
 
2020-11-21 9:51:56 PM  
I ONLY listen to Dr. Fauci.
 
2020-11-21 9:53:33 PM  

FormlessOne: I don't care about your politics. I don't want you to contract COVID-19. I don't want you to become ill. I don't want you to suffer long-term debilitation. I don't want you to die.

Please, for fark's sake, stop listening to people who do - people who believe that furthering this harm somehow betters or enriches their own situations, and so want you to ignore the CDC, the WHO, the scientists and the experts.

Stay home, if at all possible. If you can't stay home, wear a mask, practice social distancing, and carry hand sanitizer with you. If you have to bring stuff back home, practice sterile procedure. If you have to let people who don't live in your home into your home, ensure that they wear a mask, practice social distancing, and use hand sanitizer.

Don't be "paranoid," but do be aware of the risks involved, especially if you or anyone with whom you're in regular contact is in one of the high-risk groups. Don't be fearful; be responsible. You are now responsible not just for your own health, but for the health of those for whom you love & care. Don't be an idiot.


I appreciate your efforts, but please stop telling people not to be paranoid. If you touch your nose/mouth/eye one time when you shouldn't, you're infected and possibly dead. Let someone without a mask on (maybe even with?) talk one inch too close to you even if you're wearing a mask and a droplet hits your eyeball, you're infected and possibly dead. And several more possibilities where if you make one wrong move, you're infected and possibly dead.

If you're not paranoid, you're not paying attention. Be paranoid. Be paranoid as fark. It'll keep you uninfected and not dead.

And for deity-of-your-choice's sake, DO NOT let anyone that doesn't live in your home come into your home NO MATTER WHAT.
 
2020-11-21 9:57:10 PM  
That link doesn't work for people outside the U.S. - but it appears to go to CNN, not Fox
 
2020-11-21 9:59:22 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: I think everyone should be mocking the CDC's guidelines. Has anyone actually looked at them?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-n​cov/daily-life-coping/holidays/thanksg​iving.html

It's basically a joke. 'Hey it's safer not to get together, but if you will just, ya know, wash your hands and don't spit in the food...'

"Don't drink and drive, but if you choose too here are some tips... Remember to wear your seatbelt and turn on your headlights. Try to pull over while vomiting."


I guess they're trying to leave something in there for the people that are going to have Thanksgiving no matter what they say. But if those people are going to ignore the CDC's pleas to stay home, they're going to ignore the CDC's "if you HAVE to" advice on mitigating risk.
 
2020-11-21 10:01:26 PM  

Skeleton Man: stop telling people not to be paranoid. If you touch your nose/mouth/eye one time when you shouldn't, you're infected and possibly dead.


Possibly dead?

This thing clearly has at least an 80% mortality rate based on the reportage.

The only ones surviving it are evil orange emperors and academy award winning actors.
 
2020-11-21 10:07:09 PM  
The virus isn't lethal enough.  If people were dropping like flies across all ages and demographics, there wouldn't be any debate.  It's selectively lethal, and therefore selectively ignorable.  It's unfortunate, but it's also human nature.

Add your uniquely American individualism to that heady cocktail and here we are.

That said, Fox news is disturbing even in soundbite segments.  No wonder you guys have problems with that stuff running 24/7.

Echo chambers do cultural damage on the left and the right, but damn.  If I only had remedial education and that network was my only source of information, I might have voted for Trump as well.
 
2020-11-21 10:08:34 PM  
Like subby ever cared.  I'm as concerned about Thanksgiving dinner as Gavin Newsom and the people at the French Laundry, or Chuck Schumer and the people he danced around with, etc.

It's similar to how my concern level over climate change matches that of the Obama family when they bought a multi million dollar home on Martha's Vineyard.
 
2020-11-21 10:20:22 PM  
And what a lot of people don't seem to understand is your freedom ends when it endangers others.

Your freedom doesn't include putting others at risk.
 
2020-11-21 10:21:35 PM  

Circusdog320: 3 weeks after thanksgiving

Why didn't you tell us?!!? Grandma and little Billy are dead now!


She wouldn't have made it past Christmas eve anyway.
 
2020-11-21 10:22:50 PM  

pedrop357: It's similar to how my concern level over climate change matches that of the Obama family when they bought a multi million dollar home on Martha's Vineyard


They can afford to move and buy another one when the water rises. So much for that argument.
 
2020-11-21 10:27:36 PM  

FlyingBacon: Fark_Guy_Rob: I think everyone should be mocking the CDC's guidelines. Has anyone actually looked at them?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-n​cov/daily-life-coping/holidays/thanksg​iving.html

It's basically a joke. 'Hey it's safer not to get together, but if you will just, ya know, wash your hands and don't spit in the food...'

"Don't drink and drive, but if you choose too here are some tips... Remember to wear your seatbelt and turn on your headlights. Try to pull over while vomiting."

CDC and WHO been all over the map since day one.


Right, and I mean... I get it... They know people won't listen if they just say, "Don't do it" so they are trying to minimize the risk... But meh

It's frustrating, IMHO
 
2020-11-21 10:28:25 PM  
Good. Go for it.  Why are we trying so hard to prevent the people who wish us dead from killing themselves?
 
2020-11-21 10:33:43 PM  
I remember them mocking and laughing at Joe Biden for wearing a mask. Shameful.
 
2020-11-21 10:33:44 PM  

pedrop357: I'm as concerned about Thanksgiving dinner as Gavin Newsom and the people at the French Laundry


We cancelled our big Thanksgiving gathering because our 20 and 30-something kids, nieces, nephews and grandkids are all completely freaked out over Covid.

None of them have ever known adversity of any sort up until now, so I kind of get it.

We could have had a T-Giving dinner and distanced far better than Newsom and his crowd did, but the younger people in our family would have been placed unnecessarily on edge, or would have felt guilty about not showing up in the first place, so we let them off the hook about a week ago.

As an alternative, us Olds are getting together for a secret small gathering, and the kids aren't invited.
 
2020-11-21 10:41:09 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Good. Go for it.  Why are we trying so hard to prevent the people who wish us dead from killing themselves?


Only for the collateral damage they'll likely inflict. No other reason.
 
2020-11-21 10:46:22 PM  

mainsail: Aussie_As: mainsail: I still have to wonder why conservatives want the population sick/dead. Who benefits from this?

The non-renewable energy sector worth trillions in the US and a massive supporter of the Republican Party.

Think it through.

You can't start blindly accepting science like public health virology when you've been engaged in a generation-long trashing of science which is in any way different to the science your granddaddy knew.

The fact your granddaddy might actually have lived in the time of the Spanish Flu when public health policy was found to be far superior in managing the situation than populist bullshiat is irrelevant.

And how does that explain the UK and Johnson? Only now with pressure from the population is the UK really trying anything (thumb-fingers all the way).


I'm guessing BoJo completely miscalculatled. He wanted a booming economy to prove Brexit was harmless and missed a chance to shut down, lock down and then blame COVID for any and all Brexit related economic costs.

BoJo is an idiot. He cherry picks science and he plays to the lowest common denominator. I'm betting he wishes he could go back a year and handle COVID correctly because it actually would have solved him more problems than it's caused.
 
2020-11-21 10:47:25 PM  
"No one could have predicted this".

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2020-11-21 10:56:18 PM  
I am not going anywhere, but jesus, fark acts like this thing has a 90% fatality rate. Sorry, but the population of antimaskers is really not going to decline because of Thanksgiving
 
2020-11-21 10:58:43 PM  
Ok, folks let's try to be better here.
 
2020-11-21 11:02:20 PM  

Jeebus Saves: Too bad there are so many like you around here.


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2020-11-21 11:03:06 PM  
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2020-11-21 11:04:27 PM  
Subby's right: fark 'em. Let them watch their loved-ones die of an entirely preventable ilness. Let them spend their final hours or days gasping for breath as their lungs slowly fill with fluid.
 
2020-11-21 11:09:09 PM  

aungen: Circusdog320: 3 weeks after thanksgiving

Why didn't you tell us?!!? Grandma and little Billy are dead now!

In July, in Texas, there was a graph showing the spike from the 4th of July on the 17th.  So it took about 13 days to really hit home from that community spread event.  It was a REALLY narrow spike.  People who got sick enough to end up in the hospital, took 13 days to get that bad.  Then on July 27th, we saw a massive spike in the death rate.  So about 10 days after admission to die.  It was a Google News covid tracker for Texas, but by August it was really clear and easy to see the trend.

Based on those numbers, I expect 13 days after Thanksgiving to be a real test of the hospitals, and 10 days after that to be a real test of the morgues.  Though I am skeptical of the narrow'ness of the bands in that data.  that was a super-tight spike on both the 17th and 27th.

Usually a spike that narrow means a certain type of infection, or a certain type of person getting it that is fairly well represented in the population.


The July 27 death rate spike was due to a change in how data were reported.  A super spreader event on a single day can't create spikes that narrow.  There is a wide distribution in time from infection to testing positive, and a wide distribution for that to deaths. Convolving those responses smears out any particular event over a number of weeks; it won't look sharp in the time series.
 
2020-11-21 11:11:54 PM  

FlyingBacon: Fark_Guy_Rob: I think everyone should be mocking the CDC's guidelines. Has anyone actually looked at them?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-n​cov/daily-life-coping/holidays/thanksg​iving.html

It's basically a joke. 'Hey it's safer not to get together, but if you will just, ya know, wash your hands and don't spit in the food...'

"Don't drink and drive, but if you choose too here are some tips... Remember to wear your seatbelt and turn on your headlights. Try to pull over while vomiting."

CDC and WHO been all over the map since day one.


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2020-11-21 11:13:08 PM  

mainsail: I still have to wonder why conservatives want the population sick/dead. Who benefits from this?


Smart people. They're culling the herd all by themselves.
 
2020-11-21 11:13:44 PM  

doomjesse: FormlessOne: I don't care about your politics. I don't want you to contract COVID-19. I don't want you to become ill. I don't want you to suffer long-term debilitation. I don't want you to die.

Please, for fark's sake, stop listening to people who do - people who believe that furthering this harm somehow betters or enriches their own situations, and so want you to ignore the CDC, the WHO, the scientists and the experts.

Stay home, if at all possible. If you can't stay home, wear a mask, practice social distancing, and carry hand sanitizer with you. If you have to bring stuff back home, practice sterile procedure. If you have to let people who don't live in your home into your home, ensure that they wear a mask, practice social distancing, and use hand sanitizer.

Don't be "paranoid," but do be aware of the risks involved, especially if you or anyone with whom you're in regular contact is in one of the high-risk groups. Don't be fearful; be responsible. You are now responsible not just for your own health, but for the health of those for whom you love & care. Don't be an idiot.

You know what?  I used to think like you...Then in August while people were out ignoring the guidelines this happened: Nearly 10% of postal workers (my coworkers) nationwide have tested positive for COVID-19.  Now we're well past that.  Now I'm ready to watch it burn.  You don't want to follow guidelines?  Fine.  But don't ask for any help when the economy is toast, when even those with money can't buy proper care, and enjoy that Turkey, because who knows if you'll be intubated by Christmas.


I have my low moments as well. Even in my anger and frustration, I wish they would do what was right. I struggle sometimes, trying to remember that they're still farking humans, and there are days where I'd farking strangle their mouthpieces with nary a qualm as I looked in their eyes while they passed from this world.

But, it does no one any good. Eye for an eye & eventually the whole world's blind, as the saying (I think) goes. It's hard to remember - I've had two bottles of wine, to quell the anxiety & agoraphobia, and I'm going to uncork at least one more tonight before I try to sleep - but if I had my druthers, I'd like them to live and learn. I want them to rejoin the human race; to feel sympathy and empathy, to understand that their needs are trivial compared to what's needed right now, to feel a greater allegiance to America and to humanity as a whole.

You won't hear me argue with your point of view. I just wish we hadn't gotten to this point, and I want more for us.
 
2020-11-21 11:16:38 PM  

Deathbymombasa: If you are living your life being afraid you might die, then you are already dead.


The fear that you might die is what keeps you alive.  Without fear you would die very young.

RonRon893: Um... you DO understand that POC aren't somehow more infectious or catch Covid easier than white people right? They are disproportionately impacted because they have fewer viable treatment options if they catch it and are less likely to work in jobs that can be done remotely so are more likely to encounter someone who is infected.


I used to note quite a discrepancy in mask behavior between POC and white people.  There isn't as much of a pattern anymore and to my considerable surprise the hispanic market we get most of our produce from has pretty good compliance.

FlyingBacon: CDC and WHO been all over the map since day one.


The CDC is being hampered by His Flatulence.  Any time they try to tell the truth he orders them to lie.

Skeleton Man: If you're not paranoid, you're not paying attention. Be paranoid. Be paranoid as fark. It'll keep you uninfected and not dead.


Yup.  As a programmer I have found it very useful when writing concurrent code to pretend that Moriarty is in control of the scheduler, making sure things run at exactly the "wrong" time.
 
2020-11-21 11:20:12 PM  
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2020-11-21 11:23:09 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I never knew how literal this would end up being:

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Is that cross on fire?
 
2020-11-21 11:28:14 PM  

toraque: FlyingBacon: Fark_Guy_Rob: I think everyone should be mocking the CDC's guidelines. Has anyone actually looked at them?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-n​cov/daily-life-coping/holidays/thanksg​iving.html

It's basically a joke. 'Hey it's safer not to get together, but if you will just, ya know, wash your hands and don't spit in the food...'

"Don't drink and drive, but if you choose too here are some tips... Remember to wear your seatbelt and turn on your headlights. Try to pull over while vomiting."

CDC and WHO been all over the map since day one.

Please give examples.


You haven't been paying attention.
 
2020-11-21 11:33:04 PM  

Loren: I used to note quite a discrepancy in mask behavior between POC and white people.


I still do.

Worked on a riot repair site (a shoe store) in North Minneapolis with about 10 black people over the better part of this last week, and I (the one white dude) was the only one wearing a mask consistently. I'd have taken mine off too (when in Rome, you know), but my clients insist on me keeping it on.

And to be fair, about half of those 10 people had their masks on, it was just under their chin, noses and mouths largely exposed.

Besides not bothering with a mask, the manager even extended his hand for me to shake, which I accepted.

It'd been a long time since that happened, and I realized just how much I missed it.
 
2020-11-21 11:34:42 PM  
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2020-11-21 11:41:29 PM  

Parthenogenetic: Ragin' Asian: Ragin' Asian: Just sanitize you're dildo before you let your parents use it.

Your

It's not your/you're dildo, it's *A* dildo


Is that like when a child takes something that isn't theirs and you say "no, not yours" and snatch it away?

/snatch
 
2020-11-21 11:51:50 PM  
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/Canceled our big thanksgiving
//Everyone understood and were ok with it
//Conservative AND voted for Trump (OMG11!!!11!!DIAF)
 
2020-11-21 11:53:08 PM  

Aussie_As: I'm guessing BoJo completely miscalculatled.


He treated it as a PR problem to be stepped around.
 
2020-11-21 11:54:49 PM  

Chinesenookiefactory: You all biatch about Trump, but his approach to the covid vaccine (Private industry competition) is why we are on the cusp of two vaccines being released.


What does he have to do with the German company that was founded by Turkish immigrants that had the first breakthrough? Pfizer, let us remember, is merely the manufacturer, they did not actually develop the vaccine.
 
2020-11-21 11:58:19 PM  
In other news: Fox remains evil.
 
2020-11-21 11:58:47 PM  

Chinesenookiefactory: You all biatch about Trump, but his approach to the covid vaccine (Private industry competition) is why we are on the cusp of two vaccines being released.

Also, for all you progressives dancing in the streets right now, get back to me when gas is $5.00 and the economy is wrecked.

Oh....that will be Trump's fault too.

Morons.


If, as you say, the economy is wrecked, gas will be under a buck. That's how that works
 
2020-11-22 12:09:46 AM  

o4tuna: Seriously, could someone please explain to me how this is different from yelling "FIRE!" In a crowded theater?


This is more like yelling,, "Stay in your seats!  Fire isn't dangerous!" in a crowded theater that is actually on fire, while trying to block the exits.
 
2020-11-22 12:17:45 AM  

mainsail: I still have to wonder why conservatives want the population sick/dead. Who benefits from this?


There are people that are only concerned about the death rate and nothing else. They all like to make the  point that because death rate is low we can go about our business without restrictions.
They don't care about the people that  have died, They don't care about the people that have been hospitalized. They don't care that the health system is overwhelmed.
 
2020-11-22 12:22:26 AM  

Herb Utsmelz: Chinesenookiefactory: You all biatch about Trump, but his approach to the covid vaccine (Private industry competition) is why we are on the cusp of two vaccines being released.

Also, for all you progressives dancing in the streets right now, get back to me when gas is $5.00 and the economy is wrecked.

Oh....that will be Trump's fault too.

Morons.

One day if you mature emotionally, you will realize that the orange man really was bad. Until then, no one can help you.


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2020-11-22 12:26:58 AM  

Ambitwistor: aungen: Circusdog320: 3 weeks after thanksgiving

Why didn't you tell us?!!? Grandma and little Billy are dead now!

In July, in Texas, there was a graph showing the spike from the 4th of July on the 17th.  So it took about 13 days to really hit home from that community spread event.  It was a REALLY narrow spike.  People who got sick enough to end up in the hospital, took 13 days to get that bad.  Then on July 27th, we saw a massive spike in the death rate.  So about 10 days after admission to die.  It was a Google News covid tracker for Texas, but by August it was really clear and easy to see the trend.

Based on those numbers, I expect 13 days after Thanksgiving to be a real test of the hospitals, and 10 days after that to be a real test of the morgues.  Though I am skeptical of the narrow'ness of the bands in that data.  that was a super-tight spike on both the 17th and 27th.

Usually a spike that narrow means a certain type of infection, or a certain type of person getting it that is fairly well represented in the population.

The July 27 death rate spike was due to a change in how data were reported.  A super spreader event on a single day can't create spikes that narrow.  There is a wide distribution in time from infection to testing positive, and a wide distribution for that to deaths. Convolving those responses smears out any particular event over a number of weeks; it won't look sharp in the time series.


I knew something was wrong with that.  But the same thing happened after Labor Day.  Did that also coincide with a change in how it was reported?  Because that's not enough for me to discount it, yet.  We have a similar 12-14 day spike in Oakland County Michigan that I didn't mention.  May 22 everything reopens.  Sudden massive spike of hospitalizations on June 5th.  It seems less likely that we consistently wait until 14 days after an event to change reporting procedure, and more likely that something is happening.

Plus, if you hop over to the death spikes, they pop about 10 days after.  Again, that doesn't seem like reporting, it seems more like a natural conclusion of the hospitalization wave.

We will see if something pops December 8th or so.  If we see a sudden 20-foot-wave around then, we've got a gap nailed down well enough for me to suggest stocking up supplies and scheduling additional hospital workers for January 12-14th.  I'd rather a few people go home early when it doesn't show, than be completely overwhelmed.

Assuming we don't see a few Hospitals go down under the mid-December wave.
 
2020-11-22 12:27:17 AM  
Did they also mock the recommendation not to drink a fifth of cheap scotch and go for a drive after Thanksgiving dinner?  Those lane lines are more of a guideline than a rule, and only beta cucks wear seat belts.  Wooo!
 
2020-11-22 12:37:06 AM  

aungen: Ambitwistor: aungen: Circusdog320: 3 weeks after thanksgiving

Why didn't you tell us?!!? Grandma and little Billy are dead now!

In July, in Texas, there was a graph showing the spike from the 4th of July on the 17th.  So it took about 13 days to really hit home from that community spread event.  It was a REALLY narrow spike.  People who got sick enough to end up in the hospital, took 13 days to get that bad.  Then on July 27th, we saw a massive spike in the death rate.  So about 10 days after admission to die.  It was a Google News covid tracker for Texas, but by August it was really clear and easy to see the trend.

Based on those numbers, I expect 13 days after Thanksgiving to be a real test of the hospitals, and 10 days after that to be a real test of the morgues.  Though I am skeptical of the narrow'ness of the bands in that data.  that was a super-tight spike on both the 17th and 27th.

Usually a spike that narrow means a certain type of infection, or a certain type of person getting it that is fairly well represented in the population.

The July 27 death rate spike was due to a change in how data were reported.  A super spreader event on a single day can't create spikes that narrow.  There is a wide distribution in time from infection to testing positive, and a wide distribution for that to deaths. Convolving those responses smears out any particular event over a number of weeks; it won't look sharp in the time series.

I knew something was wrong with that.  But the same thing happened after Labor Day.  Did that also coincide with a change in how it was reported?  Because that's not enough for me to discount it, yet.  We have a similar 12-14 day spike in Oakland County Michigan that I didn't mention.  May 22 everything reopens.  Sudden massive spike of hospitalizations on June 5th.  It seems less likely that we consistently wait until 14 days after an event to change reporting procedure, and more likely that something is happening.

Plus, if you hop over to the death spikes, they pop about 10 days after.  Again, that doesn't seem like reporting, it seems more like a natural conclusion of the hospitalization wave.

We will see if something pops December 8th or so.  If we see a sudden 20-foot-wave around then, we've got a gap nailed down well enough for me to suggest stocking up supplies and scheduling additional hospital workers for January 12-14th.  I'd rather a few people go home early when it doesn't show, than be completely overwhelmed.

Assuming we don't see a few Hospitals go down under the mid-December wave.


I'm not familiar with what's going on everywhere, but the September 22 spike in Texas is also a data artifact, as Harris County dumped their whole backlog of unreported cases on one day.

In general, you will see cases go up a couple weeks after a spreading event, but as I said, it will show up smeared out over time, not localized over a couple of days.  Usually really sharp features have to do with reporting.
 
2020-11-22 12:54:53 AM  
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2020-11-22 12:56:46 AM  
Please just let them gather and die in peace.
Darwin needs space to do his good works and you had better give these fools a wide berth.
And sorry about the collateral damage.
HSM


PS

Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

PPS

What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Some men, you just can't reach.
So you get what we had here last week -- which is the way he wants it.
Well, he gets it.
And I don't like it anymore than you men.

I don't like it but I understand the necessity and inevitability of it.
 
2020-11-22 1:03:43 AM  

geekbikerskum: If they were only placing themselves at risk, in the manner of motorcyclists who insist on riding without a helmet "because freedom"


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2020-11-22 1:09:34 AM  

bobbyjoebobby: Maybe newsome shouldn't eat out at a fancy restaurant. Maybe Pelosi shouldn't go to a salon.

Rules for thee, not for me.

Hypocrisy is the true problem.


Maybe he's eating out Pelosi?
 
2020-11-22 1:11:22 AM  

BrianGriffin: It's one Thanksgiving in a lifetime of them, same as Xmas. Just let it go. Next year will be here soon enough.

Actually, fark it. Get Covid...spread it to your Trump supporting family members, and farkin' die. Hand us the the Senate, the House, every state's governoship and state house/senate. We'll be overjoyed to have unilateral control. Enjoy the stuffing, arseholes.


Your mascot is an ass.
 
2020-11-22 1:16:58 AM  

Oreamnos: FormlessOne: I don't care about your politics. I don't want you to contract COVID-19. I don't want you to become ill. I don't want you to suffer long-term debilitation. I don't want you to die.

I do. No you personally, but them. I'm cheering for Covid now in these geographies/social circles where the people have had every opportunity to get on board with safety, etc., but have chosen not to. Let them burn.


The problem is all the none-idiot people they'll be infecting along the way who aren't this idiotic througj sheer stubborn intransigence .
 
2020-11-22 1:18:55 AM  

SouthParkCon: I'm starting to think every time there is a Pandemic Porn headline greened the mods simultaneously:

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/Canceled our big thanksgiving
//Everyone understood and were ok with it
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2020-11-22 1:22:28 AM  

zerkalo: gas will be under a buck.


Beer Nuts are $1.50
Deer nuts are under a buck.
 
2020-11-22 1:24:26 AM  

LegacyDL: Crowds at the airports....forget it man it's game over man.

My sympathies to the health care workers.


I'm of the opinion that healthcare workers have had enough of this stupidity. They should refuse to go to work and barricade themselves in their homes or just disappear without a trace to more sane locations. They don't deserve this BS and the people yelling and cussing at them that they don't have covid cause it's a hoax that doesnt exist right up until they're intubated to save their lives don't deserve the effort.
 
2020-11-22 1:27:48 AM  

mainsail: I still have to wonder why conservatives want the population sick/dead. Who benefits from this?


It's denial of reality, a cornerstone of conservatism. Just like "if you never teach kids any aspect of reproduction ever teenagers won't get pregnant".
 
2020-11-22 1:36:36 AM  

Aussie_As: Farkin' jeebus.

I'm an Australian living in a city where we had a 6 day lockdown announced this week because of suspected community COVID. A city of over a million folks shut down as hard as it could (could buy groceries but not takeaway food, couldn't walk the dog or leave the house for excercise etc). It turned out to be based on shiatty information (a guy lied to the contract tracing crew and it took a day to work out), now they've called off the shutdown after 3 days.

It won't have been great for our economy to shut down for three days (by the time restriction were lifted) but as a community I think we did really well. We adhered to the restrictions, a few hundred notices were issued by the cops but that's not many really, we wore masks and we didn't lose our shiat and panic-buy or get aggressive.

If you want to manage a viral epidemic, follow the public health advice. It's really that simple. Australia is doing great. Japan (far denser and larger population) is doing great. Because we don't regard wearing masks and social distancing as a bad thing when there's a really good reason for it.

We haven't lost our freedoms. We're self-curtailing them briefly to protect the freedoms of our aged, invalid and otherwise at risk folks. And we're not hating it.

The selfish arseholes demanding their Freedumbs in America while killing literally a quarter of a million of their countrymen in the process are appalling. They are lead by a disgusting lazy scumbag whose science ignorance has gotten the US to this point.


I am an Australian too, and there is a strange discontinuity going on...

This thread is about Fox News, a Murdoch media outlet, ridiculing the need for people to stay safe during a pandemic.

For some reason, while there are some serious problems with the way the Australian arms of the Murdoch media empire have covered this issue, I have not heard them ridiculing the need for people to stay safe during a pandemic.

In fact, here is a short article from one of our Aussie Murdoch papers supporting and promoting the need for people to stay safe during a pandemic.

Ignoring govt directions amid COVID-19 outbreak 'is a recipe for disaster'

Infectious Diseases professor Nigel McMillan says Australia's "world leading" protective measures "will allow us to control COVID-19 as long as it does not get out of hand". Calls have been made to strengthen health precautions in Australia by suspending cruises after the virus-stricken Grand Princess cruise ship docked in Oaklands after being stranded off the Californian coast for five days. Mr McMillan told Sky News so far people under the age of 30 have been in no real danger from the coronavirus and it was the elderly population who was at risk. The Gold Coast Griffith University cancer and disease specialist compared Australia's virus situation to "embers burning, rather than a raging bushfire" and said it could be controlled. Ignoring government advice on how to prevent the spread of the disease would create "a recipe for disaster," he said. "We need to get ourselves on top of this as much as possible because the work we do now will pay us off in the long run without having widespread illness from this disease. "We know the [isolation] practice works, it is just a matter of instilling it in everyone."

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new​s​/national/ignoring-govt-directions-ami​d-covid19-outbreak-is-a-recipe-for-dis​aster/video/6573661e505d73584f1cf1d9b5​271b54

What Murdoch IS doing here is dividing our states against each other by giving wildly different coverage depending on which party governs a particular state.

When Labor states (think Democrats) initiate lockdowns, the Murdoch press picks out everything they can to twist into stories that make those governments look incompetent. When Liberal states (think very moderate Republicans) initiate lockdowns, the Murdoch press fawns over them and praises their great leadership. Despite the fact that in some cases states with different politics have done exactly the same things!

I guess that thankfully our right wing politics has not become as loony and extreme as America's, although we do have a minority fringe.

For example, I doubt there would be any Republican state in the US that would develop legislation to spend A$32 billion on renewable energy. The Liberals in NSW are doing that.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-0​9​/nsw-government-32-billion-renewable-e​nergy-plan-announced/12862276

To end this, I doubt that Australians would allow Murdoch here to spread the crap that he has done in America. There are not enough radicals here for that to happen, thank GOD!
 
2020-11-22 1:47:10 AM  

Aussie_As: optikeye: Aussie_As: I'm an Australian living in a city

Yeah....But you still have a lot to apologize for for giving the world Rupert Murdoch. That's probably done more damage to human safety, and human rights than thing any other country has done. Even Mel Gibson movies.

He's a US citizen mate, has been for years. You own him now.

/interesting Murdoch tale. His father, the late Sir Keith Murdoch, was an Australian WW1 correspondent from the front lines at Gallipoli. He challenged the military and its British leadership over their use of "over the top, boys" trench warfare attacks against Turkish soldiers well-armed and well-dug-in with German machine guns who were just cutting them to ribbons as they left the trench, yet the strategy continued. Murdoch Snr threatened to write articles for public consumption outlining the pointless slaughter of Australians and New Zealanders, a risky maneuver for a colonial nobody, and they stopped the useless and wasteful tactic.

Rupert is an appalling arsehole no two ways about it but his father changed WW1 history.


Rupert's mother (Dame Elisabeth) lived a stone's throw from me (or vice versa I suppose), used to see her out and about a lot, esp at the local art gallery of which she was a great benefactress.  She was generally regarded as an all-round good egg.  Hosted community/charity events at her farm and all that.
You wonder what went wrong with Rupert.
 
2020-11-22 1:52:28 AM  

SmithHiller: mainsail: I still have to wonder why conservatives want the population sick/dead. Who benefits from this?

There are people that are only concerned about the death rate and nothing else. They all like to make the  point that because death rate is low we can go about our business without restrictions.
They don't care about the people that  have died, They don't care about the people that have been hospitalized. They don't care that the health system is overwhelmed.


And they certainly don't care about the systemic debilitating internal damage people can get from even mild, non-lethal cases, like amputated toes, strokes and bloodclots, heart damage, eye damage, brain fog and the list goes on and on. We have no idea how permanent these injuries will be, and just think how debilitating it will be for the "economy" if the US ends up with 10-50 million people permanently disabled or on their way to a slow death due to long term covid complications.

This whole situation is just pure insanity, plain and simple.
 
2020-11-22 2:01:55 AM  

Do you know the way to Mordor: To end this, I doubt that Australians would allow Murdoch here to spread the crap that he has done in America. There are not enough radicals here for that to happen, thank GOD!


I agree with your interesting take. I'll just give another couple of examples. In the last 25 years of Australian federal government history, the centre-right Liberal Party has held office for about 18 years. And in that time, although there has been a bit of tinkering, they've never really cut into the fundamentals of Medicare plus they've introduced gun laws which most Americans ridicule.

If anyone proposed Australian style single payer health care for the US or taking away semi-auto weapons from Americans, Fox News would quite simply lose its shiat.

Yet in Australia Tony Abbott (former arch conservative health minister then Prime Minister) and John Howard cite themselves as legends of Medicare and gun laws respectively, cheered on by the Murdoch press.

That's a hell of a disconnect.
 
2020-11-22 2:08:22 AM  

vincentfox: mainsail: I still have to wonder why conservatives want the population sick/dead. Who benefits from this?

It predominantly impacts brown people


Not in Indiana.  Whites have done their best to bring racial parity to the state by going maskless and getting sick to such an extent that the victims list went from 15% Black to 7.1% Black.

Now the proportion of Black people who catch it for reasons other than their neighbors shirking masks is somewhat higher.
 
2020-11-22 2:41:48 AM  

FormlessOne: doomjesse: FormlessOne: I don't care about your politics. I don't want you to contract COVID-19. I don't want you to become ill. I don't want you to suffer long-term debilitation. I don't want you to die.

Please, for fark's sake, stop listening to people who do - people who believe that furthering this harm somehow betters or enriches their own situations, and so want you to ignore the CDC, the WHO, the scientists and the experts.

Stay home, if at all possible. If you can't stay home, wear a mask, practice social distancing, and carry hand sanitizer with you. If you have to bring stuff back home, practice sterile procedure. If you have to let people who don't live in your home into your home, ensure that they wear a mask, practice social distancing, and use hand sanitizer.

Don't be "paranoid," but do be aware of the risks involved, especially if you or anyone with whom you're in regular contact is in one of the high-risk groups. Don't be fearful; be responsible. You are now responsible not just for your own health, but for the health of those for whom you love & care. Don't be an idiot.

You know what?  I used to think like you...Then in August while people were out ignoring the guidelines this happened: Nearly 10% of postal workers (my coworkers) nationwide have tested positive for COVID-19.  Now we're well past that.  Now I'm ready to watch it burn.  You don't want to follow guidelines?  Fine.  But don't ask for any help when the economy is toast, when even those with money can't buy proper care, and enjoy that Turkey, because who knows if you'll be intubated by Christmas.

I have my low moments as well. Even in my anger and frustration, I wish they would do what was right. I struggle sometimes, trying to remember that they're still farking humans, and there are days where I'd farking strangle their mouthpieces with nary a qualm as I looked in their eyes while they passed from this world.

But, it does no one any good. Eye for an eye & eventually the whole world's blind, as the saying (I think) goes. It's hard to remember - I've had two bottles of wine, to quell the anxiety & agoraphobia, and I'm going to uncork at least one more tonight before I try to sleep - but if I had my druthers, I'd like them to live and learn. I want them to rejoin the human race; to feel sympathy and empathy, to understand that their needs are trivial compared to what's needed right now, to feel a greater allegiance to America and to humanity as a whole.

You won't hear me argue with your point of view. I just wish we hadn't gotten to this point, and I want more for us.


Sometimes you have to ask yourself if we as people deserve the privilege of living in a civilization.

I'm to the point of saying maybe we don't.  Or maybe I just need more beer and time to drink it.
 
2020-11-22 3:05:41 AM  

Aussie_As: optikeye: Aussie_As: I'm an Australian living in a city

Yeah....But you still have a lot to apologize for for giving the world Rupert Murdoch. That's probably done more damage to human safety, and human rights than thing any other country has done. Even Mel Gibson movies.

He's a US citizen mate, has been for years. You own him now.

/interesting Murdoch tale. His father, the late Sir Keith Murdoch, was an Australian WW1 correspondent from the front lines at Gallipoli. He challenged the military and its British leadership over their use of "over the top, boys" trench warfare attacks against Turkish soldiers well-armed and well-dug-in with German machine guns who were just cutting them to ribbons as they left the trench, yet the strategy continued. Murdoch Snr threatened to write articles for public consumption outlining the pointless slaughter of Australians and New Zealanders, a risky maneuver for a colonial nobody, and they stopped the useless and wasteful tactic.

Rupert is an appalling arsehole no two ways about it but his father changed WW1 history.


Sounds like Paths of Glory. Great movie.
 
2020-11-22 4:55:06 AM  
Athena: "Let them all die, all who do such things."
Homer, Odyssey, book 1.
 
2020-11-22 5:07:36 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: It's all about political control, of course; Fox News (Murdoch) does not care about lives, but fluffing and agitating their armies of morons into permanent vexation. By the time Biden is sworn in the whole country will be ablaze.


Maybe then Biden should just say, "You know what? Pass. You keep it."

This is sick.
 
2020-11-22 7:00:09 AM  

bobbyjoebobby: It'sMorphin'Time: I don't know if I have Covid, but I could wish the combination of whatever the f*ck kept me unable to even knit and bipolar mania on every single dipshiat doing this. You don't care enough about other people to keep yourself to yourself for a year? Especially when it could've been a few months if not for you? Go f*ck yourself.

Yeah. CSB. Some of have to work outside the house without a computer for a living.


And some with computers aren't allowed to work from home.

/HR has spoken.
 
2020-11-22 8:13:16 AM  
Throw the word "families" into it to make it seem like a horrible thing. I'll never understand adults that are SO into their non-immediate family. You can miss one Thanksgiving.
 
2020-11-22 8:55:51 AM  

Ragin' Asian: Ragin' Asian: Just sanitize you're dildo before you let your parents use it.

Your

A

dildo. Never yourdildo.
 
2020-11-22 10:18:12 AM  
Thanks to whomever for the TotalFark.
 
2020-11-22 2:07:58 PM  

edwin5275: Throw the word "families" into it to make it seem like a horrible thing. I'll never understand adults that are SO into their non-immediate family. You can miss one Thanksgiving.


Some people have missed various other events because they could "miss one birthday", "miss one funeral", "miss one wedding", "miss one father's day", "miss one mother's day", "skip one Easter gathering" etc.

Now that we know that the virus is not as deadly as initially claimed, that asymptomatic transmission rates were overstated, and most of the shutdowns were ineffective political theater, people want to see their families again.
 
2020-11-22 3:00:06 PM  
Ambitwistor:

In which case the Oakland county one was probably a similar issue.

Those issues must have been wide spread and over and over.  Our system genuinely sucks. Too bad the CDC's only remaining worker was so busy, and couldn't get any peer review before releasing his test (or whatever the hell hPpened)
 
2020-11-22 3:20:58 PM  
" subby's done trying to help these people"

Good.  Nobody asked for it in the first place.
 
2020-11-22 4:08:11 PM  
You would think the left would be more on board with this given how hard they've pushed the overpopulation angle.  Every covid death is one less person on this very overpopulated planet, right?
 
2020-11-22 4:59:01 PM  

frestcrallen: The virus isn't lethal enough.  If people were dropping like flies across all ages and demographics, there wouldn't be any debate.  It's selectively lethal, and therefore selectively ignorable.  It's unfortunate, but it's also human nature.

Add your uniquely American individualism to that heady cocktail and here we are.

That said, Fox news is disturbing even in soundbite segments.  No wonder you guys have problems with that stuff running 24/7.

Echo chambers do cultural damage on the left and the right, but damn.  If I only had remedial education and that network was my only source of information, I might have voted for Trump as well.


It isn't individualism.  It is selfish on a level incomprehensible to others.
 
2020-11-22 5:01:54 PM  

duckpoopy: I am not going anywhere, but jesus, fark acts like this thing has a 90% fatality rate. Sorry, but the population of antimaskers is really not going to decline because of Thanksgiving


4% of the world with 20% of the virus and 1/4 million dead in 8 months.  That is 85 9/11s.  1 9/11 was enough to create a new department of government, install nude body scanners at airports, 10s of trillions of endless wars and occupations of foreign countries.  85 9/11s and the government leaders actively lie, which continies to kill, destroy business, and destroy lives.
 
2020-11-22 6:38:36 PM  

pedrop357: You would think the left would be more on board with this given how hard they've pushed the overpopulation angle.  Every covid death is one less person on this very overpopulated planet, right?



Not if it will kill them too. There's a little dishonesty going around on that score. I'm willing to wager there are plenty of lefties who are eager to get back to a sense of normalcy, who aren't following the guidelines because they're just as tired of this shiat as everyone else. Anyway, it's easier to blame the right for all of our problems. Which brings us back to "DIE, ALL REPUBLICANS!!!!1 BLARRRRR WARGARBLE."
 
2020-11-22 7:09:05 PM  

shadow9d9: It isn't individualism.  It is selfish on a level incomprehensible to others.


Selfishness is totally comprehensible.
Selflessness is unnatural.

It's irresponsible and short-sighted, but I don't know why everyone is acting so surprised.  Anyone who works closely with the general public on a regular basis will tell you that people, on the whole, are not hugely inspiring.  That's just life, and no amount of reprimand or public shaming will change it.
 
2020-11-22 8:22:18 PM  

The Four Ringer: FormlessOne: I don't care about your politics. I don't want you to contract COVID-19. I don't want you to become ill. I don't want you to suffer long-term debilitation. I don't want you to die.

Please, for fark's sake, stop listening to people who do - people who believe that furthering this harm somehow betters or enriches their own situations, and so want you to ignore the CDC, the WHO, the scientists and the experts.

Stay home, if at all possible. If you can't stay home, wear a mask, practice social distancing, and carry hand sanitizer with you. If you have to bring stuff back home, practice sterile procedure. If you have to let people who don't live in your home into your home, ensure that they wear a mask, practice social distancing, and use hand sanitizer.

Don't be "paranoid," but do be aware of the risks involved, especially if you or anyone with whom you're in regular contact is in one of the high-risk groups. Don't be fearful; be responsible. You are now responsible not just for your own health, but for the health of those for whom you love & care. Don't be an idiot.

Meh. I say let 'em all drop dead. They're subhuman garbage. Every last one.

All I care about is the innocent people they infect and absolutely nothing else. I spend every waking moment getting anyone within my sphere of influence to take a militant stance on anything to do with these 'people'. It's a war and should be treated as such.


Good job. Thanks to you and others like you, I now remember why I stopped coming to Fark years ago. Only took 8 minutes. 💅🏻
 
2020-11-23 12:55:33 AM  

Wendigogo: pedrop357: You would think the left would be more on board with this given how hard they've pushed the overpopulation angle.  Every covid death is one less person on this very overpopulated planet, right?


Not if it will kill them too. There's a little dishonesty going around on that score. I'm willing to wager there are plenty of lefties who are eager to get back to a sense of normalcy, who aren't following the guidelines because they're just as tired of this shiat as everyone else. Anyway, it's easier to blame the right for all of our problems. Which brings us back to "DIE, ALL REPUBLICANS!!!!1 BLARRRRR WARGARBLE."


OF course.  This is why they portray Republicans as anti-mask and then claim that if 'we could just get everyone to weak a mask',.  It's cute for them to blame this all on Republicans, but the internet has a reach that is as long as its memory and there are numerous pics of Democrat politicians in public in crowds, at airports, etc., without masks.  They know it's bullshiat too.
 
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