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(KTLA Los Angeles)   Voters around the nation showed support for more police oversight. Police around the nation chuckle in union   (ktla.com) divider line
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2020-11-21 5:27:51 PM  
The law enforcement community remains concerned that such oversight boards - which often don't involve police input - are punitive and automatically assume wrongdoing by officers based on their prejudices.

They're "concerned" because they get a taste of their own medicine. I hope they choke on it.
 
2020-11-21 6:40:45 PM  
Maybe we should put the government in charge of the police.
 
2020-11-21 6:42:43 PM  
Oh give it a rest, the police aren't all bad

/runs
 
2020-11-21 6:42:48 PM  
No cop organization should fear oversight, zi mean if they have done nothing wrong...
 
2020-11-21 6:43:15 PM  
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2020-11-21 6:45:42 PM  
Pick up that can, citizen.
 
2020-11-21 6:46:12 PM  

Mad_Radhu: [Fark user image 425x637]


Endemic shootings and rapes? Sounds like CHAZ ...
 
2020-11-21 6:49:50 PM  
Many officers want the process to be fair and don't feel as if they were treated fairly by the city during the months of unrest, said Keith Ferrell, executive director of the union representing Columbus officers.

You literally shot a girl with a rubber bullet just because she was holding up a sign. Nobody within the line they were holding stopped to hold the shooter accountable despite the screams at you that the protester had done nothing wrong. It was all caught on video. So fark right off.
 
2020-11-21 6:50:21 PM  
Since "Defund the police" are confusing and scaring people over the intentions regarding police budgets, the phrase needs to be changed. How about "Defund the pigs"?
 
2020-11-21 6:52:06 PM  
"The law enforcement community remains concerned that such oversight boards - which often don't involve police input - are punitive and automatically assume wrongdoing by officers based on their prejudices, said Jim Pasco, executive director of the National Fraternal Order of Police."

Yea that's horrible when that happens... ISN'T IT.

Get farked Jim, it's about time the pendulum swung back the other way and this is barely the beginning.
 
2020-11-21 6:54:08 PM  
God damn. This shiat is about to boil over.
 
2020-11-21 6:55:41 PM  
If you A) shoot someone who isn't armed; or B) shoot someone in the back, or C; things I haven't thought of, then you should rightly be afraid of going to prison for the rest of your life, badge or no badge.

I'm not anti cop, I'm against the militarization of the police that started back in the '80s.
 
2020-11-21 6:55:52 PM  

skinink: Since "Defund the police" are confusing and scaring people over the intentions regarding police budgets, the phrase needs to be changed. How about "Defund the pigs"?


You smell like brunch.

Police: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
Youtube Wf4cea5oObY


The protestors that thought up "Defund The Police" have done far more to push for imperative alterations to policing in 6 months than the Democratic Party has in almost 30 years.
 
2020-11-21 6:56:16 PM  
And a review of every legal case involving and officer of the law over the past 30 years.
 
2020-11-21 7:00:11 PM  
Like any other worker, police should be accountable to their employers - in this case, the public
 
2020-11-21 7:02:42 PM  

Eli WhiskeyDik: Pick up that can, citizen.


Wee, since you suggested it....


Arlo Guthrie/Alice's Restaurant
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2020-11-21 7:04:11 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: skinink: Since "Defund the police" are confusing and scaring people over the intentions regarding police budgets, the phrase needs to be changed. How about "Defund the pigs"?

You smell like brunch.

[YouTube video: Police: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)]

The protestors that thought up "Defund The Police" have done far more to push for imperative alterations to policing in 6 months than the Democratic Party has in almost 30 years.


I made a joke. It is a joke. I may not have made a good joke, but it is a joke regardless. You took a joke personally. One of the disappointing things about us Democrats/Liberals is that some of us can be as humorless as the Right.

Did you even see that I purposely made fun of cops, or did you just come in to the thread, being angry at any perceived slight?
 
2020-11-21 7:05:40 PM  

Eli WhiskeyDik: God damn. This shiat is about to boil over.


Sadly, due to the course they have taken over the past few months, I do in fact expect to see a lot of
targeted ambushes by people who are inclined to shoot  becasue that is what they know how to do, and seeing that they have been failed, yet again, by society in general , and they are already portayed in press releases and conferences as "thugs" and worse , and nobody wins.

All the hell that had to be said was "we will seriously look into this and invite people who have been disenfranchised since before birth to voice their concerns, and we will take this seriously- this MUST stop. "

But that was a bridge too far, and they went full jackboot.

Again.

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2020-11-21 7:06:13 PM  

skinink: Since "Defund the police" are confusing and scaring people over the intentions regarding police budgets, the phrase needs to be changed. How about "Defund the pigs"?


I'm going with "Protect and Serve. Or else".
 
2020-11-21 7:08:38 PM  

skinink: Bith Set Me Up: skinink: Since "Defund the police" are confusing and scaring people over the intentions regarding police budgets, the phrase needs to be changed. How about "Defund the pigs"?

You smell like brunch.

[YouTube video: Police: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)]

The protestors that thought up "Defund The Police" have done far more to push for imperative alterations to policing in 6 months than the Democratic Party has in almost 30 years.

I made a joke. It is a joke. I may not have made a good joke, but it is a joke regardless. You took a joke personally. One of the disappointing things about us Democrats/Liberals is that some of us can be as humorless as the Right.

Did you even see that I purposely made fun of cops, or did you just come in to the thread, being angry at any perceived slight?


It was difficult to tell thanks to the overload of whitesplaining in this previous thread:

https://www.fark.com/comments/1102605​9​/Defund-Police-is-probably-worst-sloga​n-in-modern-political-history-harms-at​tempts-at-police-reform
 
2020-11-21 7:12:26 PM  
preview can be a friend. I dropped a pic

Note- I am NOT advocating violence, I just known it is going to happen. I also know how to stop it from happening, which was the whole point of me taking an oath in the first place.

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2020-11-21 7:22:25 PM  
Maybe departments should incentivize being a cop. You know, that way you don't end up with a department full of B list high school football players.
 
2020-11-21 7:38:10 PM  
How about each state have a commission that investigates any death or serious injury at the hands of law enforcement and issues a report to the Attorney General, who will be in charge of prosecution if warranted? It's idiotic to expect local prosecutors to go against local cops, since they have to have a good working relationship.
 
2020-11-21 7:50:56 PM  
Why the fark was my post removed?
 
2020-11-21 7:51:55 PM  

Rucker10: Maybe departments should incentivize being a cop. You know, that way you don't end up with a department full of B list high school football players.


Being a cop should be a four year college course, that'd weed out a lot of the hamburger heads. There are eyebrow trimmers that need more school hours in some states than it takes to become a cop.

Then make them carry their own insurance. Maybe a base rate could be paid for by the government, beyond that any increases due to a cop's shiatty actions are on them or their frats / unions. If they want to keep crappy cops around then they can pay for it themselves. When the really shiat cops start costing the others cops money they'll push those really shiat guys out the door.

Then make a state level review board who's only jobs are to investigate and prosecute cops. Take that away from the cops themselves and the DA's who work with them. It's a massive conflict of interest even when it's handed off to other departments or DA's.

And since I'm advocating for shiat that will never happen I'd also like a 50 million dollars, a purple unicorn, and for Keira Knightly to be my willing love slave.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
 
2020-11-21 7:52:52 PM  
fark the fire department
 
2020-11-21 7:54:12 PM  

Rucker10: Maybe departments should incentivize being a cop. You know, that way you don't end up with a department full of B list high school football players.


It is incentivized, toward B list high school football players. And Nazis. And perverts.
 
2020-11-21 8:02:05 PM  

jjorsett: How about each state have a commission that investigates any death or serious injury at the hands of law enforcement and issues a report to the Attorney General, who will be in charge of prosecution if warranted? It's idiotic to expect local prosecutors to go against local cops, since they have to have a good working relationship.


OR just passed a thing so that the oversight committee is not other police. will wait to see how that plays out but it is pretty clear that they are not very good at policing themselves.
the actual change needed is that officers who kill people need to have their trial in a different jurisdiction. there is an inherent conflict of interest when the DAs who work with the cops are asked to prosecute them. I am angry at the number of unarmed people being shot in the back by cops, I am livid that they NEVER face any consequences for it. they act with impunity. in the age of video it is beyond the pale.
 
2020-11-21 8:22:16 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: skinink: Bith Set Me Up: skinink: Since "Defund the police" are confusing and scaring people over the intentions regarding police budgets, the phrase needs to be changed. How about "Defund the pigs"?

You smell like brunch.

[YouTube video: Police: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)]

The protestors that thought up "Defund The Police" have done far more to push for imperative alterations to policing in 6 months than the Democratic Party has in almost 30 years.

I made a joke. It is a joke. I may not have made a good joke, but it is a joke regardless. You took a joke personally. One of the disappointing things about us Democrats/Liberals is that some of us can be as humorless as the Right.

Did you even see that I purposely made fun of cops, or did you just come in to the thread, being angry at any perceived slight?

It was difficult to tell thanks to the overload of whitesplaining in this previous thread:

https://www.fark.com/comments/11026059​/Defund-Police-is-probably-worst-sloga​n-in-modern-political-history-harms-at​tempts-at-police-reform


I apologize. My post was rude, and I could have responded differently.
 
2020-11-21 8:22:46 PM  

Al Roker's Forecast: The law enforcement community remains concerned that such oversight boards - which often don't involve police input - are punitive and automatically assume wrongdoing by officers based on their prejudices.

They're "concerned" because they get a taste of their own medicine. I hope they choke on it.


Never heard of a review board killing innocent people in their own home.
 
2020-11-21 8:27:07 PM  

stuffy: Al Roker's Forecast: The law enforcement community remains concerned that such oversight boards - which often don't involve police input - are punitive and automatically assume wrongdoing by officers based on their prejudices.

They're "concerned" because they get a taste of their own medicine. I hope they choke on it.

Never heard of a review board killing innocent people in their own home.


It's a new thing they're trying out.
 
2020-11-21 8:50:46 PM  
Toronto is an interesting case study in police oversight, in that we had a black chief of police for the last 5 years.  He resigned last summer for reasons not fully disclosed.  There was lots of mixed opinion in public discourse as to whether it had been a token appointment, since lots of hot button police issues remained largely status quo during his tenure.

He didn't speak out on a lot of black-specific issues to the degree that many activist groups wanted him to.  I've read that Obama got a lot of similar criticism.  It's testament to having to conform to the system no matter who you are.

Without any knowledge of the inside story, and as a white guy whose biggest run-in with cops was having my pot confiscated a couple of times in yesteryear, I felt sorry for the guy.  No pressure in that role at all.  When he first took the job, I remember a soundbite from him:  "Being black is fantastic, but it doesn't give me superpowers."
 
2020-11-21 9:16:34 PM  
how Fraternal of them
 
2020-11-21 9:34:10 PM  
Defund and Abolish.  Invest in social welfare programs.  We should also use the new carbon taxes on gasoline to pay off student loans in full
 
2020-11-21 9:59:50 PM  

skinink: Since "Defund the police" are confusing and scaring people over the intentions regarding police budgets, the phrase needs to be changed. How about "Defund the pigs"?


Honestly, how about "Demilitarize the Police"?  There's no grey area there, and no way for the apologists to claim that it's anti-police...
 
2020-11-21 10:20:20 PM  
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And then there's this shister-y looking dude, who came out yesterday and blamed politicians for New York City's uptick in violence. He said the following.
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Yeah, we're gonna blame others for us refusing to answer 911 calls while we're the ones rashly and obnoxiously refusing to answer 911 calls because you're refusing to give us more and more money and police toys.

And he has the nerve to go on about claiming the calls not taken will mean police can't help homeless people and those who are mentally ill.
What - utter - bullshiat.
But, if you give them what they want, they'll happily show up in force, armed to the teeth, firing all the weapons, 55 thousand times (you know, just to be sure the mentally ill man is good and properly dead).

F*cking police unions. Jesus Christ.
 
2020-11-21 11:49:10 PM  
Perhaps we should move towards a more civilian police force.....would result in just having plain old oversight and not the dreaded "civilian" oversight.
 
2020-11-22 1:05:58 AM  

Boo_Guy: Being a cop should be a four year college course, that'd weed out a lot of the hamburger heads.


It would weed out a lot of qualified people too. Some of the biggest idiots I've seen as cops were college graduates. Think of it. What kind of person is going to invest four years attending college and earning a degree, then become a cop?

The biggest obstacle to attracting more qualified people to police work isn't education, it's that the job requires working nights, weekends and holidays, often being on call for days at a time, being willing to insert yourself into dangerous situations at times, working outdoors in every weather condition, exposing yourself to people with no concept of hygiene, being subjected to discipline and possible criminal charges if you make a wrong decision, and so on? It's really not an attractive job when it comes down to it, and it tends to attract people with the wrong motivation.

There's a too-small pool of qualified applicants now. Requiring a college degree only shrinks that pool.
 
2020-11-22 1:15:12 AM  

philodough: Yeah, we're gonna blame others for us refusing to answer 911 calls while we're the ones rashly and obnoxiously refusing to answer 911 calls because you're refusing to give us more and more money and police toys.


I'm not a fan of that guy, but he makes a valid point. Right now cops feel they're under attack and getting no support from any one. For some cops that's justified, but for a majority of cops it's not, so they're backing away from situations that might put them in jeopardy. On top of that you have the coronavirus situation. As a result, cops aren't doing any proactive work right now, and avoiding anything even remotely controversial. Deal with violent mentally ill people that might require use of force, maybe even lethal force? No thanks, I'll find something else to do.
 
2020-11-22 5:50:42 AM  
This will end well.
 
2020-11-22 7:31:03 AM  

skinink: Since "Defund the police" are confusing and scaring people over the intentions regarding police budgets, the phrase needs to be changed. How about "Defund the pigs"?


The little anarchists are so easily triggered. Even the word police sets them off
 
2020-11-22 10:02:02 AM  

CruiserTwelve: Boo_Guy: Being a cop should be a four year college course, that'd weed out a lot of the hamburger heads.

It would weed out a lot of qualified people too. Some of the biggest idiots I've seen as cops were college graduates. Think of it. What kind of person is going to invest four years attending college and earning a degree, then become a cop?

The biggest obstacle to attracting more qualified people to police work isn't education, it's that the job requires working nights, weekends and holidays, often being on call for days at a time, being willing to insert yourself into dangerous situations at times, working outdoors in every weather condition, exposing yourself to people with no concept of hygiene, being subjected to discipline and possible criminal charges if you make a wrong decision, and so on? It's really not an attractive job when it comes down to it, and it tends to attract people with the wrong motivation.

There's a too-small pool of qualified applicants now. Requiring a college degree only shrinks that pool.


We need to require of police what we need to require of teachers - passing continuing education courses each year as essential for continued employment. The employer should pay for it and give them the time to do it, but people need constant training in most other jobs or they fall behind and become obsolete. This is no different in the public sector, and is even more crucial. The same is true for job persistence - it needs to be tied to performance and not how loyal they are. Lifetime jobs are the death of competency.

Pity the public sector unions have fought any form of continuing ed for decades.

/Former teacher
//Have worked in education since the early 90s.
///Tenure, all tenure, should be up for review every five years at most.
 
2020-11-22 12:10:24 PM  

thealgorerhythm: fark the fire department


Careful... they have big hoses.....
 
2020-11-22 12:33:26 PM  
This is the price we pay for being a 'free society'...  free to do as we wish, including ignoring laws designed to protect.   I know it,s an old mantra, but when 'We the People' existed, laws were generally obeyed, due to consideration of others, plus the desire to avoid courts and jail / prison... work farms helped with that... Now we have 'Me the Person', who DGAF and does what they want, regardless of others... it is what it is, it will continue to escalate.. it will get worse.   Get used to it.   We had a chance to possibly slow it down, but it looks like we will see a major upward surge in the near future... not what Americans wanted, but definitely what the vote changers want, and they / us will get it.. Have a mediocre day, if you are still alive...
 
2020-11-22 7:10:38 PM  

alienated: Eli WhiskeyDik: God damn. This shiat is about to boil over.

Sadly, due to the course they have taken over the past few months, I do in fact expect to see a lot of
targeted ambushes by people who are inclined to shoot  becasue that is what they know how to do, and seeing that they have been failed, yet again, by society in general , and they are already portayed in press releases and conferences as "thugs" and worse , and nobody wins.

All the hell that had to be said was "we will seriously look into this and invite people who have been disenfranchised since before birth to voice their concerns, and we will take this seriously- this MUST stop. "

But that was a bridge too far, and they went full jackboot.

Again.

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2020-11-22 11:13:04 PM  

Al Roker's Forecast: The law enforcement community remains concerned that such oversight boards - which often don't involve police input - are punitive and automatically assume wrongdoing by officers based on their prejudices.

They're "concerned" because they get a taste of their own medicine. I hope they choke on it.


You're telling me they want to.... defund the police oversight boards?
 
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