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(Irish Post US)   It's that time of the year for the arguments about The Pogues 'Fairytale of New York' to begin wafting through the air   (irishpost.com) divider line
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2020-11-21 11:40:10 AM  
Personally I have no objections to the song, it's a reflection of the characters in the song not the people singing it. Really you're going to hear way worse on the streets of new york
 
2020-11-21 11:46:30 AM  
Drops this in thread and runs.

Wonderful Christmastime (Full Length Version / Remastered 2011)
Youtube -IHP9Acxa54
 
2020-11-21 11:47:48 AM  

dave0821: Personally I have no objections to the song, it's a reflection of the characters in the song not the people singing it. Really you're going to hear way worse on the streets of new york


This. Song lyrics (and characters in books and movies) aren't always representing what the authors approve of. I read an article once viciously criticizing the song Cross-Eyed Mary for promoting child prostitution, completely missing the whole point of the song and the album it comes from.
 
2020-11-21 11:50:25 AM  

Ginnungagap42: Drops this in thread and runs.

[YouTube video: Wonderful Christmastime (Full Length Version / Remastered 2011)]


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2020-11-21 12:09:48 PM  
The song still makes me tear up.

As for the lyrics, if they bother you, don't listen.

Oh, and don't read Tom Sawyer, either.
 
2020-11-21 12:14:56 PM  
It's a love song.  Despite maybe having terrible lives, and making terrible decisions, and lacking in opportunity, or making mistakes and throwing away their opportunities... people still fall in love and feel it strongly.  Love isn't always pretty.

I'm a fan of the song.
 
2020-11-21 12:21:14 PM  
It's a good song. Better than most christmas songs. It was stupidly nostalgic when it was first recorded, and now we are nostalgic about that nostalgia. That's almost the very definition of a christmas song though.
 
2020-11-21 3:11:52 PM  
I've always loved this version.

R.I.P. Kirsty

The Pogues and Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York
Youtube NrAwK9juhhY
 
2020-11-21 3:12:21 PM  
It's a terrible song. The voice is godawful and anyone who likes it is demonstrably wrong.
 
2020-11-21 3:16:09 PM  
That's some mighty fine swear-censoring there Lou.  If it's an embedded tweet, it doesn't count, apparently.

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2020-11-21 3:18:03 PM  

FlashHarry: The song still makes me tear up.

As for the lyrics, if they bother you, don't listen.

Oh, and don't read Tom Sawyer, either.



that's sounds like you imagined the BBC is like American free market radio stations.
It's not and that's why there is an honest cultural controversy over it for them.

Free market radio = they play what they believe appeals most to their targeted audience. Don't like it, they don't have to care we go find another station that panders to our tastes more.

Publicly funded however, where "we the people" decide what will and will not be offered to "we the people" because some of "we the people" decide what's bets for the rest of the "we the people."

that is basically an internal cultural norms struggle they have under such a system.

Unlike in America where if your cultural POV or personal health, don't generate enough profit, it can be ignored and not provided for by the free market.
 
2020-11-21 3:18:31 PM  
WTF is this bogshiate?
 
2020-11-21 3:18:35 PM  
Why did that site censor "scumbag"?
 
2020-11-21 3:23:50 PM  
I once got in trouble for playing this at work:

Art Lover - The Kinks (1981) Remastered FLAC Audio HD Video
Youtube rxOIkkjlQzQ
 
2020-11-21 3:25:09 PM  
Fun fact: the band in the video had no idea how to play Galway Bay, so for the shot they were playing the Mickey Mouse Club theme.
 
2020-11-21 3:27:04 PM  
It's way to early for that stuff, but I do like the pogs.   I played this song at a party got a great reaction. Everybody just gave me space looking up for god to zot me for singing it.
Lets Put Christ Back in Christmas
Youtube vMo_A6eHn14
 
2020-11-21 3:27:50 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Why did that site censor "scumbag"?


In England, much like "fanny" means front lady-bits and isn't said in polite company, in England, "scumbag" is when you put ya twig & berries up in ya how's-yer-father. They can't just go around saying that in public.
 
2020-11-21 3:32:08 PM  
I didn't know Porgs could sing

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2020-11-21 3:33:10 PM  

dave0821: Personally I have no objections to the song, it's a reflection of the characters in the song not the people singing it. Really you're going to hear way worse on the streets of new york


Similarly with the oft-censored second verse of "Money For Nothing" by Dire Straits.  It's a reflection of the homophobic, ignorant jerk who's narrating the song.
 
2020-11-21 3:36:15 PM  
All of this bullshiat over a radio station playing a radio edit. One actually done by the band themselves...

There wasn't any such "controversy" a few years back when they got Rage Against The Machine to Xmas #1 and didn't play "fark you I won't do what you tell me" on daytime radio either.
 
2020-11-21 3:37:51 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Why did that site censor "scumbag"?


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2020-11-21 3:55:22 PM  
I really liked it the first 1000 or so times I heard it. By the 5,000th time it had begun to pale.
 
2020-11-21 3:57:04 PM  

RonRon893: Rev. Skarekroe: Why did that site censor "scumbag"?

In England, much like "fanny" means front lady-bits and isn't said in polite company, in England, "scumbag" is when you put ya twig & berries up in ya how's-yer-father. They can't just go around saying that in public.


You're going to need to explain that using American English
 
2020-11-21 3:59:03 PM  
FoNY makes me sob like a child.

Just thinking about it now and I am tearing up.

Yes, my relationships have all been dysfunctional, why do you ask?
 
2020-11-21 4:01:17 PM  
Huh. I still have my T shirt from that tour. Interesting.
 
2020-11-21 4:04:53 PM  

Ginnungagap42: Drops this in thread and runs.

[YouTube video: Wonderful Christmastime (Full Length Version / Remastered 2011)]


You are pure evil!!!!!
 
2020-11-21 4:09:55 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Fun fact: the band in the video had no idea how to play Galway Bay, so for the shot they were playing the Mickey Mouse Club theme.


A few years ago there was a link or mention to a documentary about the video where I learned that fact. I'll probably seek it out again this year.
 
2020-11-21 4:11:53 PM  

knbwhite: UNC_Samurai: Fun fact: the band in the video had no idea how to play Galway Bay, so for the shot they were playing the Mickey Mouse Club theme.

A few years ago there was a link or mention to a documentary about the video where I learned that fact. I'll probably seek it out again this year.


The one where they talk about getting shiat-faced in the basement of the police station during filming?
 
2020-11-21 4:12:16 PM  
It's my Christmas tradition to get rippin' drunk and belt out that song
 
2020-11-21 4:16:05 PM  
interesting side note: Shane MacGowan's birthday is Dec 25th.
make of it what you will.
 
2020-11-21 4:19:47 PM  

SumoJeb: It's my Christmas tradition to get rippin' drunk and belt out that song


My two favourites, both can bring me to tears with the right amount of weed... Fairytale of New York and Christmas with the Family. (Robert Earl Keen)
 
2020-11-21 4:20:49 PM  

UNC_Samurai: knbwhite: UNC_Samurai: Fun fact: the band in the video had no idea how to play Galway Bay, so for the shot they were playing the Mickey Mouse Club theme.

A few years ago there was a link or mention to a documentary about the video where I learned that fact. I'll probably seek it out again this year.

The one where they talk about getting shiat-faced in the basement of the police station during filming?


That sounds familiar. I can't remember if it was a BBC production or an independent network.
 
2020-11-21 4:24:25 PM  
* "Merry Christmas from the Family " - Robert Earl Keen
 
2020-11-21 4:30:25 PM  

swankywanky: R.I.P. Kirsty


The outrage here is that the creep who ran her over with a boat got away with it thanks to his connections.
 
2020-11-21 4:31:42 PM  

Pinko_Commie: All of this bullshiat over a radio station playing a radio edit. One actually done by the band themselves...

There wasn't any such "controversy" a few years back when they got Rage Against The Machine to Xmas #1 and didn't play "fark you I won't do what you tell me" on daytime radio either.


Anything to fight against Simon Cowell's f*cking karaoke crap polluting our airwaves and television screens for the last 20 years.
 
2020-11-21 4:33:26 PM  
Happy Christmas your arse
I pray god it's our last.

And now the kids are asking why my face is leaking, and if I need another pint.
 
2020-11-21 4:52:14 PM  

Ginnungagap42: Drops this in thread and runs.

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You bastard. Evil, evil bastard.
 
2020-11-21 5:08:53 PM  

doomsdayaddams: dave0821: Personally I have no objections to the song, it's a reflection of the characters in the song not the people singing it. Really you're going to hear way worse on the streets of new york

This. Song lyrics (and characters in books and movies) aren't always representing what the authors approve of. I read an article once viciously criticizing the song Cross-Eyed Mary for promoting child prostitution, completely missing the whole point of the song and the album it comes from.


Would-be censors are typically idiots. Wasn't there a whole thing about Ozzy Osbourne's "Suicide Solution" during the great 80s satanic panic years, when in fact it's just an ANTI-drinking song?
 
2020-11-21 5:35:27 PM  

PvtStash: that's sounds like you imagined the BBC is like American free market radio stations.
It's not and that's why there is an honest cultural controversy over it for them.


I was born and raised in the UK and am quite familiar with the Beeb, thanks very much.
 
2020-11-21 5:44:02 PM  

desertgeek: It's a terrible song. The voice is godawful and anyone who likes it is demonstrably wrong.


then demonstrate
 
2020-11-21 5:53:40 PM  

desertgeek: It's a terrible song. The voice is godawful and anyone who likes it is demonstrably wrong.


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That's, like, just your opinion, man
 
2020-11-21 5:56:31 PM  
If you don't like it don't listen. Just don't deny me the pleasure of hearing the song. There are a lot of songs I do not like. Whole genres even. But I can usually avoid them.
 
2020-11-21 5:59:22 PM  
I'm not getting something here. This actor is unhappy about the censored version of the song, and the band is pissed about that???
 
2020-11-21 6:03:49 PM  

RonRon893: SumoJeb: It's my Christmas tradition to get rippin' drunk and belt out that song

My two favourites, both can bring me to tears with the right amount of weed... Fairytale of New York and Christmas with the Family. (Robert Earl Keen)


Happy Holidays, Y'all is another home run at my Christmas party.
 
2020-11-21 6:05:20 PM  
This is more what it's like around my house during the holidays.

Dropkick Murphys - "The Season's Upon Us" (Video)
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2020-11-21 6:09:50 PM  
Ah, it's this time of year again. I do so cherish the annual Christmas tradition of hearing complaints from people who have just now discovered that radio edits exist.
 
2020-11-21 6:10:32 PM  

Bad bit in the bit bucket: I'm not getting something here. This actor is unhappy about the censored version of the song, and the band is pissed about that???


There's not much to go on, but as I read it they're taking issue with his dictating cultural standards for everyone.
 
2020-11-21 6:12:54 PM  
Ya know, when the local classic rock station plays "Who Are You" and Roger Daltrey yells "Who the f**k are you?" they just sort of blank out most of that word. We all know what the word is, and we just enjoy the f**kin' song and get on with our lives.

FFS.
 
2020-11-21 6:19:30 PM  

bingethinker: Ya know, when the local classic rock station plays "Who Are You" and Roger Daltrey yells "Who the f**k are you?" they just sort of blank out most of that word. We all know what the word is, and we just enjoy the f**kin' song and get on with our lives.

FFS.


Yeah, people who get worked up about the omission of a slur aimed at gay men are probably pretty shiatty people in general.
 
2020-11-21 6:25:30 PM  
always preferred the up-tempo version
No Use For A Name - Fairytale Of New York (Early Version, 1996) Christmas Song
Youtube lreybppwrC4
 
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