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2020-11-20 4:56:14 PM  
34 votes:
Let's hope this is not politically motivated and just a "natural American" occurence.
 
2020-11-20 5:00:09 PM  
26 votes:
Pew pew pew
Merica, Fark yeah!!!!
That being said..... Seriously people, WTF
If I can go through life deciding not to shoot people that need it. You can get through life not shooting people that don't.
 
2020-11-20 5:01:38 PM  
21 votes:
So is he a misunderstood lone wolf or a violent terrorist? I'm asking what his skin color is.
 
2020-11-20 5:01:32 PM  
21 votes:
Why are there people at a mall?  We are in a pandemic.  All people, especially the non essential, should be locked the fark down.  Anybody out and about at a mall today is a trumpet, and thus only trumpers can be shot at a mall.  Doesn't even sound like a problem.
 
2020-11-20 5:00:07 PM  
21 votes:

ParallelUniverseParking: Let's hope this is not politically motivated and just a "natural American" occurrence.


Well Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse got out on bail today
 
2020-11-20 5:12:47 PM  
20 votes:
Dunno why they need to send the cops out to deal with a tiny issue like this. I doubt the shooter even kills as many people as a typical flu season.

Just deal with it, we can't shut the mall down for something so minor
 
2020-11-20 4:58:13 PM  
16 votes:
Didn't Kyle *just* make bail?
 
2020-11-20 5:05:22 PM  
14 votes:

ParallelUniverseParking: Let's hope this is not politically motivated and just a "natural American" occurence.


Trumpsters are getting seriously unhinged.
I had an old man try to start a fight with me the other day because I shook my head in disbelief as he drove his big ole truck the wrong way down the parking lot lane making everyone else get out of his way.
He was leaving but circled around to try and start shiat.
 
2020-11-20 5:46:30 PM  
13 votes:

snarfyboy: I wish I could edit my posts.


You don't want that. Posting a retraction/correction later is sufficient.

If we could edit our posts, people would maliciously or innocently change what they typed, AFTER triggering responses.

It would be confusing like when a headline or link is corrected, but about 1M times worse.
 
2020-11-20 5:12:56 PM  
12 votes:

cretinbob: ParallelUniverseParking: Let's hope this is not politically motivated and just a "natural American" occurence.

Trumpsters are getting seriously unhinged.
I had an old man try to start a fight with me the other day because I shook my head in disbelief as he drove his big ole truck the wrong way down the parking lot lane making everyone else get out of his way.
He was leaving but circled around to try and start shiat.


I remember America being filled with insufferable, loudmouthed, moronic assholes before trump. A lot of them wear red baseball hats now, but they were always there.
 
2020-11-20 8:33:30 PM  
7 votes:
He warned you.  Something got to be done about these dangerous whites,

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2020-11-20 5:51:44 PM  
7 votes:

Jeebus Saves: backhand.slap.of.reason: Just a Trump Supporter rising up.  Get used to it.

Thank god the only people that are dumb enough to be out during this pandemic are republicans.  You farkers can breath a sigh of relief knowing that none of your own were shot.


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2020-11-20 5:24:53 PM  
7 votes:

gilgigamesh: SurfaceTension: Not just active, but "very active"


#BREAKING A police dispatcher says officers are responding to "a very active situation" at a suburban Milwaukee mall. https://t.co/6ZYcqnt7Lj
- FOX19 NOW (@FOX19) November 20, 2020

So he's shooting people while doing crossfit?


Ok, that was funny.  My cousin is fine, but he was in the mall on break when it happened. He doesn't know any details, though.
 
2020-11-20 5:23:40 PM  
7 votes:

ParallelUniverseParking: Let's hope this is not politically motivated and just a "natural American" occurence.


Stupid teenage gang shiat goes on at that mall often. Very unlikely to be political.

/ I live a quarter mile away
 
2020-11-20 5:17:11 PM  
7 votes:

genner: I used to go to this mall fairly regularly. Good thing I left WI behind.


Not so CSB.

When the Omaha mall shooter killed 8, I had just left Crossroads Mall. I wasn't even to my car when people came running out screaming.

Shook me and my co-worker to the core.
 
2020-11-20 5:05:03 PM  
7 votes:
Maybe they're only shooting people that aren't wearing a mask. If so, is that so bad?

Seriously though, we have so many problems as a nation. It's getting exhausting.
 
2020-11-20 5:01:54 PM  
7 votes:
Just a Trump Supporter rising up.  Get used to it.
 
2020-11-20 5:00:49 PM  
7 votes:
at least with COVID there are hopefully less people shopping
 
2020-11-20 7:11:12 PM  
6 votes:
Let me guess; Another white guy shooting people with a handgun? Same as usual.
Solution?
Let me guess; Banning rifles and bringing back Jim Crow laws to keep black people from owning guns? Same as usual
 
2020-11-20 6:28:29 PM  
6 votes:

gentfx: Wait, why are people in a f#cking mall? Isn't there Covid in Milwaukee?


I sometimes walk in the mall in question for exercise when it's raining. Covid is bad in Wisconsin and I'm elevated risk and I don't feel uncomfortable there.

Mask compliance is virtually 100%. I suppose the food court and restaurants may be more problematic, but I avoid them. Stores have plexiglass barriers for the cashiers. Groups of families/friends walk together but keep distance from others.

The covid risk is worst among tweens/teens who see it as the only place they can meet in groups.
 
2020-11-20 5:39:01 PM  
6 votes:
I've been listening to the Milwaukee AM news station WTMJ since about 3:30 when I was driving by the mall.

The solid information is
-- Wauwatosa mayor says several shot, none fatal
-- The radio station has been playing calls from witnesses and interviews from their associated TV news channel
-- Witnesses say they were in or near Macy's lower level, heard shots, then people scattered out the doors
-- Have not heard any eyewitnesses to shooting, just earwitnesses
-- Radio says a "source with good law enforcement contacts" says seven shot
-- Witnesses have seen multiple people being wheeled out on gurneys
-- One mall employee witness on the radio said people on gurneys had sheets over their heads. That is the single suggestion of fatalities. The mayor's statement contradicts it.
-- I saw at least five ambulances leaving mall headed towards big nearby Froedtert hospital
 
2020-11-20 5:03:02 PM  
6 votes:

Azlefty: Well Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse got out on bail today


possibly related, but more likely related to the protests in Tosa. This is the mall where Alvin Cole was shot.

Or most probably, another crazy person with a gun.
 
2020-11-20 5:00:47 PM  
6 votes:
THANKS, TRUMP!
 
2020-11-20 6:10:05 PM  
5 votes:
Wait, why are people in a f#cking mall? Isn't there Covid in Milwaukee?
Shouldn't this be; Suicidal arseholes shot at by Murderous aresehole?
 
2020-11-20 5:24:48 PM  
5 votes:
In other news, there are still malls.
 
2020-11-20 5:00:07 PM  
5 votes:
This is the mall I usually go to usually.

Apparently no fatalities reported as medical examiners office has not been called. People coming out on stretchers appear to be awake and talking.
 
2020-11-20 11:15:32 PM  
4 votes:

g.fro: You think the guys making IEDs in Iraq were geniuses?


Compared to Trumpers, yes.  However, it is a dumb comparison for many reasons.  Look at the profiles of right-wing nut jobs who have went on a shooting sprees.  Using a firearm was an enabling factor.

Do you think Gabby Gifford's shooter had that capacity to build an IED and effectively had used it in an attack?  He probably would have been arrested for public masturbation had he been delayed one more day from purchasing a firearm.
 
2020-11-20 8:28:13 PM  
4 votes:

krispos42: nd Trumbull, CT decided to join in the fun. Active shooter at the Trumbull Shopping Park.


Dryad: Add an Atlanta mall to the mix, less than an hour ago


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2020-11-20 6:50:16 PM  
4 votes:

FlyingBacon: Without the 2A in place, Antifa and BLM would have took over USA and kill all the Trump supporters.


You say that like it's a bad thing.
 
b19
2020-11-20 5:56:00 PM  
4 votes:

pheelix: snarfyboy: Azlefty: Well Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse got out on bail today

possibly related, but more likely related to the protests in Tosa. This is the mall where Alvin Cole was shot.

Or most probably, another crazy person with a gun.

For those not from the Milwaukee area, Alvin Cole was the third guy in 5 years shot and killed by a cop who just the other day agreed to a severance package and will receive $125,000 in compensation for quietly leaving the Wauwatosa Police Department.


Alvin Cole also fired on the cop first with bodycam footage showing the cop giving the dude every out before returning fire.  The real reason the cop was severanced is because that was his second righteous kill in a few short years. Most cops go their entire careers without firing a single shot in the field.
 
2020-11-20 5:28:15 PM  
4 votes:

snarfyboy: Azlefty: Well Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse got out on bail today

possibly related, but more likely related to the protests in Tosa. This is the mall where Alvin Cole was shot.

Or most probably, another crazy person with a gun.


For those not from the Milwaukee area, Alvin Cole was the third guy in 5 years shot and killed by a cop who just the other day agreed to a severance package and will receive $125,000 in compensation for quietly leaving the Wauwatosa Police Department.
 
2020-11-20 5:14:29 PM  
4 votes:
My guess is someone asked someone to where a mask because that is where we are as a nation now.
 
2020-11-20 5:11:53 PM  
4 votes:

AmbassadorBooze: Why are there people at a mall?  We are in a pandemic.  All people, especially the non essential, should be locked the fark down.  Anybody out and about at a mall today is a trumpet, and thus only trumpers can be shot at a mall.  Doesn't even sound like a problem.


Trumpers get shot at a mall during a pandemic for 3 reasons :

- they dont believe in pandemics
- they dont believe in gun control
- they dont believe in universal health care

Theres 3 reasons right there they deserve it. Get shot at a mall because you're a farking idiot, who voted against gun control and now gonna go bankrupt paying for your gunshot wounds for the next decade.

KARMA, I LOVE IT. Too bad it aint happening more.
 
2020-11-20 5:08:08 PM  
4 votes:

backhand.slap.of.reason: Just a Trump Supporter rising up.  Get used to it.


Thank god the only people that are dumb enough to be out during this pandemic are republicans.  You farkers can breath a sigh of relief knowing that none of your own were shot.
 
2020-11-20 10:43:47 PM  
3 votes:
BIDEN'S AMERICA

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2020-11-20 6:14:02 PM  
3 votes:

jaytkay: The_Sponge: Jeebus Saves: backhand.slap.of.reason: Just a Trump Supporter rising up.  Get used to it.

Thank god the only people that are dumb enough to be out during this pandemic are republicans.  You farkers can breath a sigh of relief knowing that none of your own were shot.

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Friendly tip. You're kind of hung up on the Newsom thing.

/ I like your travel reports better


It's the perfect demonstration of his hypocrisy.  Regular people are expected to sacrifice, while he is sacrificing nothing.
 
2020-11-20 5:57:04 PM  
3 votes:

jaytkay: I've been listening to the Milwaukee AM news station WTMJ since about 3:30 when I was driving by the mall.

The solid information is
-- Wauwatosa mayor says several shot, none fatal
-- The radio station has been playing calls from witnesses and interviews from their associated TV news channel
-- Witnesses say they were in or near Macy's lower level, heard shots, then people scattered out the doors
-- Have not heard any eyewitnesses to shooting, just earwitnesses
-- Radio says a "source with good law enforcement contacts" says seven shot
-- Witnesses have seen multiple people being wheeled out on gurneys
-- One mall employee witness on the radio said people on gurneys had sheets over their heads. That is the single suggestion of fatalities. The mayor's statement contradicts it.
-- I saw at least five ambulances leaving mall headed towards big nearby Froedtert hospital


Sheets over heads is weird, but the dead wouldn't be transported anywhere by ambulance. They would be left in place until the investigation is over.
So that's good.
 
2020-11-20 5:42:52 PM  
3 votes:

farkingbubbler: I read there's supposed to be a "MAGA rally" Satirday 11/21 at or near said mall (which is down the road from me at the moment).  Wonder if related?

/obvious?


Trump and Trumpers wouldn't get within three miles of Mayfair.  If there was a rally it's at Brookfield Square about five miles away.
 
2020-11-20 5:35:40 PM  
3 votes:

orezona: Shooter still at large? Sounds like the cops are sweeping the location still. There may still be bodies to find...


I'm sure the cops waved him off and let him nonchalantly stroll out of the scene with his rifle by now, just like they did in Kenosha.
 
2020-11-20 5:22:54 PM  
3 votes:
I read there's supposed to be a "MAGA rally" Satirday 11/21 at or near said mall (which is down the road from me at the moment).  Wonder if related?

/obvious?
 
2020-11-20 5:16:16 PM  
3 votes:

snarfyboy: This is the mall I usually go to usually.

Apparently no fatalities reported as medical examiners office has not been called. People coming out on stretchers appear to be awake and talking.


My cousin works there.  Kinda freaked out as we haven't heard from him yet.
 
2020-11-20 5:10:44 PM  
3 votes:
Meh.  I'm holding out for a listless shooter.  That at least would have the merit of being non-hyperbolic.
 
2020-11-20 5:04:54 PM  
3 votes:

AmbassadorBooze: Why are there people at a mall?  We are in a pandemic.  All people, especially the non essential, should be locked the fark down.  Anybody out and about at a mall today is a trumpet, and thus only trumpers can be shot at a mall.  Doesn't even sound like a problem.


*American conservative "Law and Order" style typing detected*
 
2020-11-20 5:03:47 PM  
3 votes:

Azlefty: ParallelUniverseParking: Let's hope this is not politically motivated and just a "natural American" occurrence.

Well Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse got out on bail today


Mr. Rittenhouse and his mother will both be in jail awaiting trial, without bail, come February 7th.  Expect terror charges.
 
2020-11-21 1:45:21 PM  
2 votes:

jaytkay: g.fro: If one were to somehow eliminate one kind of weapon, that doesn't mean anyone who has the motivation to attack someone is going to drop their plans and learn to play the guitar; they will find a different weapon.

Parroting that dumbass argument only proves a lack of thinking abilities. It's pathetic that dimwits accept it as received truth.


Putting forth the argument that inanimate objects are the source of violent motivation proves a pretty marked lack of thinking abilities.
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That some people have motivations to attack others and find the most relevant tools at hand to do so is pretty well accepted.
The idea that the mere existence of a type of weapon is the causal origin of those violent urges, and a lack of that specific tool would eliminate that violent urge from occurring is a pretty novel reading of reality that would require some pretty extraordinary evidence. Which you don't have. So who is the Derper?
 
2020-11-21 11:58:58 AM  
2 votes:

mrshowrules: g.fro: You think the guys making IEDs in Iraq were geniuses?

Compared to Trumpers, yes.  However, it is a dumb comparison for many reasons.  Look at the profiles of right-wing nut jobs who have went on a shooting sprees.  Using a firearm was an enabling factor.

Do you think Gabby Gifford's shooter had that capacity to build an IED and effectively had used it in an attack?  He probably would have been arrested for public masturbation had he been delayed one more day from purchasing a firearm.


What's your point? That having a weapon is an enabling factor to conducting an attack? That's the whole point of a weapon. If one were to somehow eliminate one kind of weapon, that doesn't mean anyone who has the motivation to attack someone is going to drop their plans and learn to play the guitar; they will find a different weapon. The only reason IEDs came up is because people seem to think they are super-hard to make and require advanced engineering degrees. I can tell you from personal experience that the people making and using IEDs in Iraq were not any smarter than your average Trump voter.
 
2020-11-20 9:35:51 PM  
2 votes:

Dryad: jaytkay: krispos42: nd Trumbull, CT decided to join in the fun. Active shooter at the Trumbull Shopping Park.

Dryad: Add an Atlanta mall to the mix, less than an hour ago

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No. Multiple synchronized shootings in malls do -NOT- happen regularly. Or ever before.
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/I am betting this is our first taste of the post-Trump era of terrosrism, roadside IED's to follow.


The dullest simpleton in the world can fire a gun with a moderate degree of effectiveness.  With IEDs they stand a good chance of making a dud, getting caught looking for recipes or blowing themselves up before executing their plan.  Dumb idiots like Trumps are also very impatient and guns make them fill like soldiers.  Also, satisfying for incels.  Bonus: they get to use the toy they've been fantasying about using for years.
 
2020-11-20 8:18:00 PM  
2 votes:

krispos42: And Trumbull, CT decided to join in the fun. Active shooter at the Trumbull Shopping Park. No details yet.

https://m.facebook.com/DoingItLocal/vi​deos/374211800575905/


Add an Atlanta mall to the mix, less than an hour ago so no details there yet either.
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/Thinking this is not random occurrence.
 
2020-11-20 8:14:10 PM  
2 votes:
And Trumbull, CT decided to join in the fun. Active shooter at the Trumbull Shopping Park. No details yet.

https://m.facebook.com/DoingItLocal/vi​deos/374211800575905/
 
2020-11-20 8:11:18 PM  
2 votes:
I moved to Milwaukee in 1980 after college in the thriving metropolis of Oshkosh. I stayed with a friend's family for a few weeks before starting my job and getting an apartment in the Sherman Park area.

My friend's father was a Milwaukee Police officer and he said that Mayfair was the worst mall in the county for crime (and these were the days of Capitol Court and Northridge). Why? It had an upscale image and clientele but easy access.

I have always hated malls but occasionally had to go to one. I always stayed away from Mayfair so I don't know how it ranks compared to 40 years ago.

Too bad there isn't a Home Depot close to Mayfair. The last shooter we had a couple of weeks ago was captured in the field behind the Delafield Home Depot. Then again, he was from Fargo so maybe he was just looking for a woodchipper.
 
2020-11-20 6:54:39 PM  
2 votes:

chuggernaught: The 2nd amendment is a curse upon this country.


No, but your lame ass posts are.
 
2020-11-20 6:54:11 PM  
2 votes:

FlyingBacon: Without the 2A in place, Antifa and BLM would have took over USA and kill all the Trump supporters.


Okay, and what's the down side?

/ I kid.
// Probably.
/// Always in threes...
 
2020-11-20 6:53:30 PM  
2 votes:
Wauwatosa police statement 5:50 PM CST

"Preliminary reports the shooter is a white male in his 20s or 30s."
"Seven injured adults, one injured teenager
"The shooter is not in custody"
"Any reports confirming the identity of the shooter are false."
 
2020-11-20 6:47:31 PM  
2 votes:

jaytkay: Thankfully this is sounding "only" like a gang moron (or morons) spraying bullets and hitting bystanders instead of a determined mass murderer.

/ This is America
// Otherwise, what I typed would sound absolutely insane


You think America is the only country with gang violence?
 
2020-11-20 6:32:35 PM  
2 votes:

The_Sponge: jaytkay: The_Sponge: Jeebus Saves: backhand.slap.of.reason: Just a Trump Supporter rising up.  Get used to it.

Thank god the only people that are dumb enough to be out during this pandemic are republicans.  You farkers can breath a sigh of relief knowing that none of your own were shot.

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Friendly tip. You're kind of hung up on the Newsom thing.

/ I like your travel reports better

It's the perfect demonstration of his hypocrisy.  Regular people are expected to sacrifice, while he is sacrificing nothing.


You don't usually sweat the small stuff. I've been a dick to you in the past on Fark and you graciously brushed it off, not getting dragged into the mud. The Newsom thing is a petty offense. We have bigger worries.
 
2020-11-20 6:24:16 PM  
2 votes:

snarfyboy: roc6783: My cousin is fine, but he was in the mall on break when it happened. He doesn't know any details, though.

Good to hear. Is he trapped inside?  Sounds like a lot of employees pulled down the gates and retreated to store rooms.


No clue. He's actually my wife's cousin. Once he texted that he was safe, she didn't ask anything else. He's coming over tonight anyway so if I get anything else, I'll update.
 
2020-11-20 6:00:53 PM  
2 votes:

jaytkay: The Kyle Rittenhouse comment was a joke. It seems you are unfamiliar with the concept.


I'm not unfamiliar with the concept.  If something's funny, I will laugh.
 
2020-11-20 6:00:25 PM  
2 votes:

b19: The real reason the cop was severanced is because that was his second righteous kill in a few short years


His third fatal shooting. Also, the word righteous is creepy.
 
2020-11-20 5:55:14 PM  
2 votes:
Thankfully this is sounding "only" like a gang moron (or morons) spraying bullets and hitting bystanders instead of a determined mass murderer.

/ This is America
// Otherwise, what I typed would sound absolutely insane
 
2020-11-20 5:55:05 PM  
2 votes:

cretinbob: ParallelUniverseParking: Let's hope this is not politically motivated and just a "natural American" occurence.

Trumpsters are getting seriously unhinged.
I had an old man try to start a fight with me the other day because I shook my head in disbelief as he drove his big ole truck the wrong way down the parking lot lane making everyone else get out of his way.
He was leaving but circled around to try and start shiat.


Getting?
 
2020-11-20 5:47:50 PM  
2 votes:
Somebody couldn't get the raspberry vanilla vape juice they drove 20 blocks to get?
 
2020-11-20 5:38:34 PM  
2 votes:

SurfaceTension: Not just active, but "very active"


#BREAKING A police dispatcher says officers are responding to "a very active situation" at a suburban Milwaukee mall. https://t.co/6ZYcqnt7Lj
- FOX19 NOW (@FOX19) November 20, 2020


Fake news. Have seen Wisconsinites. None of them could be called "very active".
 
kab
2020-11-20 5:23:34 PM  
2 votes:
Subby apparently thinks Chicago isn't part of America.
 
2020-11-20 5:21:40 PM  
2 votes:

kindms: at least with COVID there are hopefully less people shopping


I was driving by an hour ago. The parking lot was full. I had to re-route because police car after police car was swarming in, including two big armoured cars.

While I was out five ambulances passed me on the way to the hospital. Four had sirens blaring. The fifth did not. I guess that could mean either the passenger is lightly injured or dead.
 
2020-11-20 5:10:28 PM  
2 votes:
Finally, a use case for large capacity magazines. Social distancing makes shooting large number of people at once more difficult which requires additional shots.
 
2020-11-20 4:56:24 PM  
2 votes:
Tree of Libety watered no trans!

USA! USA! USA! (repeat until intubated)
 
2020-11-21 10:09:07 PM  
1 vote:
I have him pegged as one of those intolerant pseudo-liberals that treats anyone who disagrees with them as subhuman, but also takes great  offense when anyone calls out their intolerance. Likely by calling them intolerant.
Hell, he uses unintelligent arguments to call people unintelligent, and ignorant positions to call people ignorant, so they are definitely consistent at least.
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/Either the most self-unaware person on Fark or a really unfunny troll.
 
2020-11-21 3:33:15 PM  
1 vote:

jaytkay: g.fro: jaytkay: g.fro: If one were to somehow eliminate one kind of weapon, that doesn't mean anyone who has the motivation to attack someone is going to drop their plans and learn to play the guitar; they will find a different weapon.

Parroting that dumbass argument only proves a lack of thinking abilities. It's pathetic that dimwits accept it as received truth.

/ I guess if they could do better, they wouldn't be dimwits
// Or gun derpers

The one saying a bunch of words with no meaning accusing someone of "parroting"? That's funny.

Double downit. Comedy gold. You're not sounding any smarter.


And you are still saying nothing.
 
2020-11-21 3:05:34 PM  
1 vote:

g.fro: jaytkay: g.fro: If one were to somehow eliminate one kind of weapon, that doesn't mean anyone who has the motivation to attack someone is going to drop their plans and learn to play the guitar; they will find a different weapon.

Parroting that dumbass argument only proves a lack of thinking abilities. It's pathetic that dimwits accept it as received truth.

/ I guess if they could do better, they wouldn't be dimwits
// Or gun derpers

The one saying a bunch of words with no meaning accusing someone of "parroting"? That's funny.


Double downit. Comedy gold. You're not sounding any smarter.
 
2020-11-21 2:16:07 PM  
1 vote:

mrshowrules: g.fro: mrshowrules: g.fro: You think the guys making IEDs in Iraq were geniuses?

Compared to Trumpers, yes.  However, it is a dumb comparison for many reasons.  Look at the profiles of right-wing nut jobs who have went on a shooting sprees.  Using a firearm was an enabling factor.

Do you think Gabby Gifford's shooter had that capacity to build an IED and effectively had used it in an attack?  He probably would have been arrested for public masturbation had he been delayed one more day from purchasing a firearm.

What's your point? That having a weapon is an enabling factor to conducting an attack? That's the whole point of a weapon.

I'm saying the weapon ownership/possession itself is a motivating factor.  Inanimate targets get boring after a while.

If one were to somehow eliminate one kind of weapon, that doesn't mean anyone who has the motivation to attack someone is going to drop their plans and learn to play the guitar;

They cure polio but people kept on dying of cancer and heart disease, so why did they bother?

they will find a different weapon. The only reason IEDs came up is because people seem to think they are super-hard to make and require advanced engineering degrees. I can tell you from personal experience that the people making and using IEDs in Iraq were not any smarter than your average Trump voter.

You mean to say the average Trump supporter who is motivated to violence over insane crazy conspiracy theories.  These are stupid dumbf$cks of the highest order.  They would get caught looking up instructions on how to do it.  That's how the FBI caught those chuklef$cks planning to abduct the Michigan Governor.  Anyways these f$ckers wanted to use their toys (the toys they had), that was part of their soldier role-playing, cosplay fantasy.  They were not fantasizing about kablowee they wanted the PEW PEW PEW.


If you really think that owning a weapon causes violence or violent tendencies because "inanimate targets get boring", you are either an insane person or fantastically stupid. Either way there is no point continuing to talk with you. But, because I am a masochist (or very bored), I will take the time to point out that inanimate targets do not, in fact, get boring. If they do, you are either shooting targets that are too big, or too close. You may not know this, but there are actually several Olympic sports which involve shooting, and those Olympians spend quite a bit of time practicing. As far as I know, none of them has ever murdered anyone out of boredom.

The rest of your ramblings are hardly worth noticing. You seem to be one of the people I mentioned earlier who think improvised weapons, including IEDs, are somehow really hard to make and use. I have said they are not and that even someone as stupid as the average Trump voter can do so. You have said nothing to prove otherwise. I am speaking from personal experience. You are just saying words.
 
2020-11-21 1:53:30 PM  
1 vote:
How did attributing the properties of the Loc-Nar to every weapon get to be a thing in the first place?
 
2020-11-21 1:28:00 PM  
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jaytkay: g.fro: If one were to somehow eliminate one kind of weapon, that doesn't mean anyone who has the motivation to attack someone is going to drop their plans and learn to play the guitar; they will find a different weapon.

Parroting that dumbass argument only proves a lack of thinking abilities. It's pathetic that dimwits accept it as received truth.

/ I guess if they could do better, they wouldn't be dimwits
// Or gun derpers


The one saying a bunch of words with no meaning accusing someone of "parroting"? That's funny.
 
2020-11-20 11:01:31 PM  
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I'm just copying and pasting this response to all Trumpers

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2020-11-20 10:50:07 PM  
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jaytkay: I've been listening to the Milwaukee AM news station WTMJ since about 3:30 when I was driving by the mall.

The solid information is
-- Wauwatosa mayor says several shot, none fatal


Well, to be fair.... a bullet can only get so far through all that fat before grinding to a halt.  It'd need to travel through at least a couple more feet of fat on the typical Wisconsinite to hit anything vital.
 
2020-11-20 10:03:49 PM  
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mrshowrules: Dryad: jaytkay: krispos42: nd Trumbull, CT decided to join in the fun. Active shooter at the Trumbull Shopping Park.

Dryad: Add an Atlanta mall to the mix, less than an hour ago

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No. Multiple synchronized shootings in malls do -NOT- happen regularly. Or ever before.
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/I am betting this is our first taste of the post-Trump era of terrosrism, roadside IED's to follow.

The dullest simpleton in the world can fire a gun with a moderate degree of effectiveness.  With IEDs they stand a good chance of making a dud, getting caught looking for recipes or blowing themselves up before executing their plan.  Dumb idiots like Trumps are also very impatient and guns make them fill like soldiers.  Also, satisfying for incels.  Bonus: they get to use the toy they've been fantasying about using for years.


You think the guys making IEDs in Iraq were geniuses?
 
2020-11-20 9:50:53 PM  
1 vote:
It's an incel/cult45/boogaloo chump
 
2020-11-20 8:48:36 PM  
1 vote:

Dryad: jaytkay: krispos42: nd Trumbull, CT decided to join in the fun. Active shooter at the Trumbull Shopping Park.

Dryad: Add an Atlanta mall to the mix, less than an hour ago

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No. Multiple synchronized shootings in malls do -NOT- happen regularly. Or ever before.
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/I am betting this is our first taste of the post-Trump era of terrosrism, roadside IED's to follow.


They do however, happen in other countries.

But that ruins the narrative.
 
2020-11-20 8:41:19 PM  
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jaytkay: krispos42: nd Trumbull, CT decided to join in the fun. Active shooter at the Trumbull Shopping Park.

Dryad: Add an Atlanta mall to the mix, less than an hour ago

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No. Multiple synchronized shootings in malls do -NOT- happen regularly. Or ever before.
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/I am betting this is our first taste of the post-Trump era of terrosrism, roadside IED's to follow.
 
2020-11-20 8:26:16 PM  
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jaytkay: The_Sponge:

Have you been to Dubrovnik? That is my latest dream trip.

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Oh yeah...I was there in 1990 and 2019.

If you're into Game of Thrones, I highly recommend taking a tour.  I did, and it was a lot of fun....and exhausting due to the amount to walking....and quite a few stairs.

Restaurant recommendation:

Taverna Pupo.  They have awesome seafood and pasta.  It was also featured on the travel show "Three Sheets"...you can find the Croatia episode on YouTube.

Hotel recommendation:

The Hilton that is right outside the fortress walls....I could only afford it because I paid with hotel points, but damn....what a location.

I really hope you're there soon.
 
2020-11-20 8:18:32 PM  
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catmandu: I moved to Milwaukee in 1980 after college in the thriving metropolis of Oshkosh. I stayed with a friend's family for a few weeks before starting my job and getting an apartment in the Sherman Park area.

My friend's father was a Milwaukee Police officer and he said that Mayfair was the worst mall in the county for crime (and these were the days of Capitol Court and Northridge). Why? It had an upscale image and clientele but easy access.

I have always hated malls but occasionally had to go to one. I always stayed away from Mayfair so I don't know how it ranks compared to 40 years ago.

Too bad there isn't a Home Depot close to Mayfair. The last shooter we had a couple of weeks ago was captured in the field behind the Delafield Home Depot. Then again, he was from Fargo so maybe he was just looking for a woodchipper.


As someone that works at UWO... hello.

/this is my greenlit thread, hooray!
 
2020-11-20 8:04:47 PM  
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The_Sponge:

Have you been to Dubrovnik? That is my latest dream trip.

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2020-11-20 7:31:44 PM  
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whidbey: OMG  IS THE GUNS SAFE?


Your hoplophobia is showing.
 
2020-11-20 7:30:32 PM  
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Dryad: Let me guess; Another white guy shooting people with a handgun? Same as usual.
Solution?
Let me guess; Banning rifles and bringing back Jim Crow laws to keep black people from owning guns? Same as usual


Yep, no way to restructure healthcare so that mental health is accessible.....better to just throw your hands in the air, so nothing, and say your all out of ideas.

Also everyone's coming for your guns......

And also do nothing

Same as usual.  It's time to start taking bets every shooting on the over under for how many people are shot/dear because it's a farking joke at this point anyways
 
2020-11-20 7:22:51 PM  
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jaytkay: Helicopter still hovering over the site. I don't know if it's a news copter or police.

/ Prolly news


Channel 12 copter is still broadcasting live.
 
2020-11-20 6:53:25 PM  
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b19: pheelix: snarfyboy: Azlefty: Well Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse got out on bail today

possibly related, but more likely related to the protests in Tosa. This is the mall where Alvin Cole was shot.

Or most probably, another crazy person with a gun.

For those not from the Milwaukee area, Alvin Cole was the third guy in 5 years shot and killed by a cop who just the other day agreed to a severance package and will receive $125,000 in compensation for quietly leaving the Wauwatosa Police Department.

Alvin Cole also fired on the cop first with bodycam footage showing the cop giving the dude every out before returning fire.  The real reason the cop was severanced is because that was his second righteous kill in a few short years. Most cops go their entire careers without firing a single shot in the field.


Second kill, but the third guy he shot in a 5 year span. Should have let him go after two.
 
2020-11-20 6:52:06 PM  
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chuggernaught: The 2nd amendment is a curse upon this country.


Nice non-sequitur there.
 
2020-11-20 6:49:30 PM  
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The_Sponge: jaytkay: The_Sponge: Jeebus Saves: backhand.slap.of.reason: Just a Trump Supporter rising up.  Get used to it.

Thank god the only people that are dumb enough to be out during this pandemic are republicans.  You farkers can breath a sigh of relief knowing that none of your own were shot.

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Friendly tip. You're kind of hung up on the Newsom thing.

/ I like your travel reports better

It's the perfect demonstration of his hypocrisy.  Regular people are expected to sacrifice, while he is sacrificing nothing.


He was married to Kim Gulifoyle.

He's paid a pretty steep price already.
 
2020-11-20 6:47:53 PM  
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The_Sponge: Thanks man, but that level of hypocrisy needs to be called out.


Sir, this is a Milwaukee thread.

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2020-11-20 6:35:48 PM  
1 vote:
Without the 2A in place, Antifa and BLM would have took over USA and kill all the Trump supporters.
 
2020-11-20 6:35:44 PM  
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jaytkay: The_Sponge: jaytkay: The_Sponge: Jeebus Saves: backhand.slap.of.reason: Just a Trump Supporter rising up.  Get used to it.

Thank god the only people that are dumb enough to be out during this pandemic are republicans.  You farkers can breath a sigh of relief knowing that none of your own were shot.

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Friendly tip. You're kind of hung up on the Newsom thing.

/ I like your travel reports better

It's the perfect demonstration of his hypocrisy.  Regular people are expected to sacrifice, while he is sacrificing nothing.

You don't usually sweat the small stuff. I've been a dick to you in the past on Fark and you graciously brushed it off, not getting dragged into the mud. The Newsom thing is a petty offense. We have bigger worries.


Thanks man, but that level of hypocrisy needs to be called out.

I am not a fan of my governor (Inslee), but IIRC, at least he "practices what he preaches".
 
2020-11-20 6:21:48 PM  
1 vote:

jaytkay: I would like to have my way with a sheep someday


Editing quotes is just as nefarious of used correctly.

You could have an edit w revision history option.
 
2020-11-20 6:08:43 PM  
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The_Sponge: Jeebus Saves: backhand.slap.of.reason: Just a Trump Supporter rising up.  Get used to it.

Thank god the only people that are dumb enough to be out during this pandemic are republicans.  You farkers can breath a sigh of relief knowing that none of your own were shot.

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Friendly tip. You're kind of hung up on the Newsom thing.

/ I like your travel reports better
 
2020-11-20 6:08:41 PM  
1 vote:
So..Lately a gunman has been over heard in Mayfair?


/His gun was perfect..
 
2020-11-20 6:04:31 PM  
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cretinbob: Sheets over heads is weird, but the dead wouldn't be transported anywhere by ambulance. They would be left in place until the investigation is over.


Ahh, thanks, that is good news. The radio reported that the Medical Examiner had not been called to the mall. Now I understand why that was big news.
 
2020-11-20 5:59:38 PM  
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Mike_LowELL: AmbassadorBooze: Why are there people at a mall?  We are in a pandemic.  All people, especially the non essential, should be locked the fark down.  Anybody out and about at a mall today is a trumpet, and thus only trumpers can be shot at a mall.  Doesn't even sound like a problem.

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Your lack of civility is very concerning.


The far left has alot of pent up aggression.
 
2020-11-20 5:53:51 PM  
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ParallelUniverseParking: cretinbob: ParallelUniverseParking: Let's hope this is not politically motivated and just a "natural American" occurence.

Trumpsters are getting seriously unhinged.
I had an old man try to start a fight with me the other day because I shook my head in disbelief as he drove his big ole truck the wrong way down the parking lot lane making everyone else get out of his way.
He was leaving but circled around to try and start shiat.

I remember America being filled with insufferable, loudmouthed, moronic assholes before trump. A lot of them wear red baseball hats now, but they were always there.


Now they feel aggrieved.
They are scared.
It's not going to be good.
 
2020-11-20 5:49:52 PM  
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ParallelUniverseParking: Let's hope this is not politically motivated and just a "natural American" occurence.


We don't know if it's terrorism or not, yet.
Might just be a white guy.
 
2020-11-20 5:48:54 PM  
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jaytkay: There is zero chance that this is related to Alvin Cole. Alvin Cole was an idiot kid showing off his stolen gun (at the same mall). The protests about his death were misguided but not violent or threatening in any way.


I'm not disagreeing with you, but just because you feel this way doesn't mean other people feel differently.

My point was that it's more likely that than the news of Kyle Rittenhouse being a motivator. But as my post also said: most probably it's just another crazy person with a gun.  No political/reactionary motivation.
 
2020-11-20 5:47:46 PM  
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lincoln65: Dunno why they need to send the cops out to deal with a tiny issue like this. I doubt the shooter even kills as many people as a typical flu season.

Just deal with it, we can't shut the mall down for something so minor


Good thing too, since we just defunded the police department.
 
2020-11-20 5:42:56 PM  
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snarfyboy: Azlefty: Well Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse got out on bail today

possibly related, but more likely related to the protests in Tosa. This is the mall where Alvin Cole was shot.



There is zero chance that this is related to Alvin Cole. Alvin Cole was an idiot kid showing off his stolen gun (at the same mall). The protests about his death were misguided but not violent or threatening in any way.
 
2020-11-20 5:40:46 PM  
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PiperArrow: snarfyboy: This is the mall I usually go to usually.

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Ha!  This is doubly funny to me because my nickname in high school (which was before said movie) was Newt.

I wish I could edit my posts.  I am a terrible self-proofer, but eventually I spot them eventually. :)
 
2020-11-20 5:36:41 PM  
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roc6783: My cousin is fine, but he was in the mall on break when it happened. He doesn't know any details, though.


Good to hear. Is he trapped inside?  Sounds like a lot of employees pulled down the gates and retreated to store rooms.
 
2020-11-20 5:30:32 PM  
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lolmao500: AmbassadorBooze: Why are there people at a mall?  We are in a pandemic.  All people, especially the non essential, should be locked the fark down.  Anybody out and about at a mall today is a trumpet, and thus only trumpers can be shot at a mall.  Doesn't even sound like a problem.

Trumpers get shot at a mall during a pandemic for 3 reasons :

- they dont believe in pandemics
- they dont believe in gun control
- they dont believe in universal health care

Theres 3 reasons right there they deserve it. Get shot at a mall because you're a farking idiot, who voted against gun control and now gonna go bankrupt paying for your gunshot wounds for the next decade.

KARMA, I LOVE IT. Too bad it aint happening more.


People on stretchers being wheeled out were active and talking.
Asking if the guns were OK.
 
2020-11-20 5:23:14 PM  
1 vote:
Shooter still at large? Sounds like the cops are sweeping the location still. There may still be bodies to find...
 
2020-11-20 5:23:10 PM  
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Farkin_Crazy: genner: I used to go to this mall fairly regularly. Good thing I left WI behind.

Not so CSB.

When the Omaha mall shooter killed 8, I had just left Crossroads Mall. I wasn't even to my car when people came running out screaming.

Shook me and my co-worker to the core.


I was at that mall that day.
Was already back at my hotel when it happened.
I count myself lucky
 
2020-11-20 5:16:57 PM  
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backhand.slap.of.reason: Mr. Rittenhouse and his mother will both be in jail awaiting trial, without bail, come February 7th.  Expect terror charges.


Why February 7th?
 
2020-11-20 5:13:50 PM  
1 vote:

SurfaceTension: Not just active, but "very active"


#BREAKING A police dispatcher says officers are responding to "a very active situation" at a suburban Milwaukee mall. https://t.co/6ZYcqnt7Lj
- FOX19 NOW (@FOX19) November 20, 2020


Is he shooting with two guns at the same time?
 
2020-11-20 5:00:53 PM  
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