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2020-11-20 2:17:02 PM  
Churches are all about the money.  Don't ask them to make sacrifices, that's not what they do.
 
2020-11-20 2:25:47 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Churches are all about the money.  Don't ask them to make sacrifices, that's not what they do.


Say what? Almost every church in my area is still 100% virtual, with a few now experimenting with ~10% capacity in person (pre-registration required for contact tracing). The finances are suffering tremendously, but they're making it work for now.

For a lot of them, the PPP funds are running out and people like junior pastors and kitchen staff are having to be cut. It sucks just like everywhere else.
 
2020-11-20 2:30:03 PM  
Headline of the Year contender?

I do think so.

/ good luck to ya, subby!
 
2020-11-20 2:37:26 PM  
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2020-11-20 2:39:25 PM  
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2020-11-20 2:40:46 PM  
Evangelical Doctors

It amazes me how many "scientists" can square their profession with such a crazy belief system.
 
2020-11-20 2:42:01 PM  
About a month ago, I was out for a walk and I saw a neighbor of mine knocking at the front door of another neighbor's. He's a local handyman so he tends to be out and about. I never met the lady who answered, but she was wearing a mask. He wasn't. Here's the problem: I saw him gesture with his arms and actually tell her, "Oh, no, no. I don't care about me." A lot of people have this attitude still.
 
2020-11-20 2:44:19 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Churches are all about the money.  Don't ask them to make sacrifices, that's not what they do.


Those who say "sacrifices must be made" usually mean "they should be made by others".

/yes, I just quoted Madness Returns
 
2020-11-20 2:44:32 PM  

Declassify Issue: About a month ago, I was out for a walk and I saw a neighbor of mine knocking at the front door of another neighbor's. He's a local handyman so he tends to be out and about. I never met the lady who answered, but she was wearing a mask. He wasn't. Here's the problem: I saw him gesture with his arms and actually tell her, "Oh, no, no. I don't care about me." A lot of people have this attitude still.


I"m thinking of posting a sign by the door asking them to mask up before knocking.
 
2020-11-20 2:49:45 PM  
Do evangelical doctors believe in microbial drug resistance?
 
2020-11-20 2:49:51 PM  

Declassify Issue: About a month ago, I was out for a walk and I saw a neighbor of mine knocking at the front door of another neighbor's. He's a local handyman so he tends to be out and about. I never met the lady who answered, but she was wearing a mask. He wasn't. Here's the problem: I saw him gesture with his arms and actually tell her, "Oh, no, no. I don't care about me." A lot of people have this attitude still.


THIS!!   Why is it so hard to realize that it's for helping your fellow humans. Have some common courtesy for fark's sake!!

I saw a guy in a store wearing a mask (at least he was wearing one) that said on it "Wearing by force, not by choice".   How about caring about someone other than yourself for once????
 
2020-11-20 3:04:52 PM  
My two favorite churches and synagogues both have followed the mayor and epidemiologist best practices and stayed the f*ck closed to spreading disease and plague among the faithful, less faithful, and even the faithless.

Citing "Save Life or Pikuach nefesh* " as a very high principle and commandment, superseding corporate worship even on the weekly holy day, they have been diligent Zoomers.

It's almost like some other churches are using religion to justify bad and  reckless behavior, believing that no one will catch on.  I wonder if this is a first time for them, or they are just so practiced it's just like another day with a fad issue.


* The oligation to save a life, even if doing so breaks Jewish law
 
2020-11-20 3:24:38 PM  

BitwiseShift: My two favorite churches and synagogues both have followed the mayor and epidemiologist best practices and stayed the f*ck closed to spreading disease and plague among the faithful, less faithful, and even the faithless.

Citing "Save Life or Pikuach nefesh* " as a very high principle and commandment, superseding corporate worship even on the weekly holy day, they have been diligent Zoomers.

It's almost like some other churches are using religion to justify bad and  reckless behavior, believing that no one will catch on.  I wonder if this is a first time for them, or they are just so practiced it's just like another day with a fad issue.


* The oligation to save a life, even if doing so breaks Jewish law


So has the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church, the Sunnis, the Shia, the Satanists, and the Mormons.

But the Evangelicals and the Charedim have gone Full Plague Rat
 
2020-11-20 3:26:07 PM  

BitwiseShift: My two favorite churches and synagogues both have followed the mayor and epidemiologist best practices and stayed the f*ck closed to spreading disease and plague among the faithful, less faithful, and even the faithless.

Citing "Save Life or Pikuach nefesh* " as a very high principle and commandment, superseding corporate worship even on the weekly holy day, they have been diligent Zoomers.

It's almost like some other churches are using religion to justify bad and  reckless behavior, believing that no one will catch on.  I wonder if this is a first time for them, or they are just so practiced it's just like another day with a fad issue.


* The oligation to save a life, even if doing so breaks Jewish law


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2020-11-20 3:33:25 PM  
Can we dissuade them with the danger of giant microbes?
 
2020-11-20 3:35:04 PM  

rightylefty: I saw a guy in a store wearing a mask (at least he was wearing one) that said on it "Wearing by force, not by choice".   How about caring about someone other than yourself for once????


Compliance isn't enough for you?

http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks01/0100​0​21.txt

O'Brien smiled slightly. 'You are a flaw in the pattern, Winston. You are
a stain that must be wiped out. Did I not tell you just now that we are
different from the persecutors of the past? We are not content with
negative obedience, nor even with the most abject submission. When finally
you surrender to us, it must be of your own free will. We do not destroy
the heretic because he resists us: so long as he resists us we never
destroy him. We convert him, we capture his inner mind, we reshape him.
We burn all evil and all illusion out of him; we bring him over to our
side, not in appearance, but genuinely, heart and soul. We make him one of
ourselves before we kill him.
 
2020-11-20 3:44:37 PM  
Evangelical Christians are attempting to use logic on other evangelical Christians.
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2020-11-20 3:49:26 PM  

dittybopper: rightylefty: I saw a guy in a store wearing a mask (at least he was wearing one) that said on it "Wearing by force, not by choice".   How about caring about someone other than yourself for once????

Compliance isn't enough for you?

http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks01/01000​21.txt

O'Brien smiled slightly. 'You are a flaw in the pattern, Winston. You are
a stain that must be wiped out. Did I not tell you just now that we are
different from the persecutors of the past? We are not content with
negative obedience, nor even with the most abject submission. When finally
you surrender to us, it must be of your own free will. We do not destroy
the heretic because he resists us: so long as he resists us we never
destroy him. We convert him, we capture his inner mind, we reshape him.
We burn all evil and all illusion out of him; we bring him over to our
side, not in appearance, but genuinely, heart and soul. We make him one of
ourselves before we kill him.


The suggestion to care about strangers is really threatening to you, huh?
 
2020-11-20 3:59:20 PM  

anuran: BitwiseShift: My two favorite churches and synagogues both have followed the mayor and epidemiologist best practices and stayed the f*ck closed to spreading disease and plague among the faithful, less faithful, and even the faithless.

Citing "Save Life or Pikuach nefesh* " as a very high principle and commandment, superseding corporate worship even on the weekly holy day, they have been diligent Zoomers.

It's almost like some other churches are using religion to justify bad and  reckless behavior, believing that no one will catch on.  I wonder if this is a first time for them, or they are just so practiced it's just like another day with a fad issue.


* The oligation to save a life, even if doing so breaks Jewish law

So has the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church, the Sunnis, the Shia, the Satanists, and the Mormons.

But the Evangelicals and the Charedim have gone Full Plague Rat


A long time ago, I read a quote that said something like: "A church getting involved in politics will corrupt the church instead of improving politics." By throwing themselves behind Trump wholeheartedly, despite the fact that he is a morally despicable human being, evangelical churches have corrupted themselves.
 
2020-11-20 4:13:22 PM  

BitwiseShift: My two favorite churches and synagogues both have followed the mayor and epidemiologist best practices and stayed the f*ck closed to spreading disease and plague among the faithful, less faithful, and even the faithless.

Citing "Save Life or Pikuach nefesh* " as a very high principle and commandment, superseding corporate worship even on the weekly holy day, they have been diligent Zoomers.

It's almost like some other churches are using religion to justify bad and  reckless behavior, believing that no one will catch on.  I wonder if this is a first time for them, or they are just so practiced it's just like another day with a fad issue.


* The oligation to save a life, even if doing so breaks Jewish law


Legit thought that said Pikachu nefesh
 
2020-11-20 4:18:59 PM  
This happened at a church near my parents' house. Idiots.

The outbreak, he concluded, was "just one of those freak things" that happen in life.
 
2020-11-20 4:21:04 PM  
I'm just glad Biden doesn't take over until after the spread from Christmas gatherings is evident, otherwise his Covid control measures would be deemed ineffectual because to the bump in cases  from the holidays.
 
2020-11-20 4:22:47 PM  

rightylefty: Evangelical Doctors

It amazes me how many "scientists" can square their profession with such a crazy belief system.


Yeah, it seems to me science and religion are fundamentally irreconcilable.  I really don't see how someone can in their professional life accept an evidence-based world view and then in their personal life say "Well, this belief makes me feel good and alleviates my existential anxieties, so who cares that is has absolutely no evidence to support it?"
 
2020-11-20 4:29:03 PM  

CordycepsInYourBrain: anuran: BitwiseShift: My two favorite churches and synagogues both have followed the mayor and epidemiologist best practices and stayed the f*ck closed to spreading disease and plague among the faithful, less faithful, and even the faithless.

Citing "Save Life or Pikuach nefesh* " as a very high principle and commandment, superseding corporate worship even on the weekly holy day, they have been diligent Zoomers.

It's almost like some other churches are using religion to justify bad and  reckless behavior, believing that no one will catch on.  I wonder if this is a first time for them, or they are just so practiced it's just like another day with a fad issue.


* The oligation to save a life, even if doing so breaks Jewish law

So has the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church, the Sunnis, the Shia, the Satanists, and the Mormons.

But the Evangelicals and the Charedim have gone Full Plague Rat

A long time ago, I read a quote that said something like: "A church getting involved in politics will corrupt the church instead of improving politics." By throwing themselves behind Trump wholeheartedly, despite the fact that he is a morally despicable human being, evangelical churches have corrupted themselves.


I grew up in the South, surrounded by evangelicals.  They have been corrupt for a very, very long time.
 
2020-11-20 4:32:58 PM  

dittybopper: rightylefty: I saw a guy in a store wearing a mask (at least he was wearing one) that said on it "Wearing by force, not by choice".   How about caring about someone other than yourself for once????

Compliance isn't enough for you?

http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks01/01000​21.txt

O'Brien smiled slightly. 'You are a flaw in the pattern, Winston. You are
a stain that must be wiped out. Did I not tell you just now that we are
different from the persecutors of the past? We are not content with
negative obedience, nor even with the most abject submission. When finally
you surrender to us, it must be of your own free will. We do not destroy
the heretic because he resists us: so long as he resists us we never
destroy him. We convert him, we capture his inner mind, we reshape him.
We burn all evil and all illusion out of him; we bring him over to our
side, not in appearance, but genuinely, heart and soul. We make him one of
ourselves before we kill him.


I see -- So doing something to help another person in any way is a sign of submission. Strange logic you have there.

I guess that in order to prove that I'm a truly free individual, I might start doing some of the following:

- Drive on the left side of the road -- You don't like it? Get the hell out of my way!
- Throw my trash into the street instead of taking to the dump -- Not my problem any more!
- It's too much effort to go all the way to a restroom -- I'm just going to start pissing where I stand when I need to go!
- Might as well park in front of fire hydrants -- Not my house that will burn down!

Gee -- This FREEDOM thing sounds fun.
 
2020-11-20 4:40:13 PM  

TastyEloi: rightylefty: Evangelical Doctors

It amazes me how many "scientists" can square their profession with such a crazy belief system.

Yeah, it seems to me science and religion are fundamentally irreconcilable.  I really don't see how someone can in their professional life accept an evidence-based world view and then in their personal life say "Well, this belief makes me feel good and alleviates my existential anxieties, so who cares that is has absolutely no evidence to support it?"


"Investigating God's creation" and variations thereon is a common one.  Scientists don't actually investigate existential truths, usually.  If you're investigating the effect of the length of daylight on bird migration patterns, the question of what happens to people after they did is unlikely to arise.

In math, we just jump straight to "deciphering God's language" or "reading the mind of God".  Well, I don't because I'm not religious, but the deists in the crowd generally go that route.

In science and math, all those who do work have to distinguish between what they believe is true and what they have evidence for every day.  Why should Sundays be exempt?  (Math, critically, adds what we can prove is true.)
 
2020-11-20 5:10:12 PM  

rightylefty: Evangelical Doctors

It amazes me how many "scientists" can square their profession with such a crazy belief system.


For a lot of businesspeople, it's more of a networking thing.
 
2020-11-20 5:55:01 PM  
This outfit published pro-Trump editorials before the election, so...fark 'em.

/vote for an antivaxxer?
//die of the plague
///knock off the whining and die quietly, please...actions have consequences
 
2020-11-20 6:32:19 PM  

toraque: I grew up in the South, surrounded by evangelicals. They have been corrupt for a very, very long time.


An evangelical is simply an horrid person that makes themselves feel better by telling themselves that God wants them to be festering monuments to ignorance and intolerance.  It allows them to be complete shiatheads without bothering their consciences too much.
 
2020-11-20 7:51:06 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Churches are all about the money.  Don't ask them to make sacrifices, that's not what they do.


Churches making sacrifices is as old as time.  Of course when it happens, a priest holds the knife...

/somethings never change
//but the minister is in almost as much danger as his flock
///maybe not quite as much, as your typical flock is *well* over retirement age
 
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