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2020-10-31 11:28:13 AM  
I imagine those birds will figure out how to get into the hopper.
 
2020-10-31 12:00:53 PM  
I know some home-brewers are cheap, but wow.
 
2020-10-31 12:31:45 PM  
well done subby
 
2020-10-31 2:29:02 PM  
HTH do you train the birds to bring litter to the feeder?

/let alone what litter to bring?
 
2020-10-31 2:29:15 PM  

edmo: I imagine those birds will figure out how to get into the hopper.


I rather like the idea of training crows to pick up trash in return for food...
 
2020-10-31 2:32:33 PM  
Now train them to do it with ocean plastic.
 
2020-10-31 3:42:17 PM  

KRSESQ: HTH do you train the birds to bring litter to the feeder?

/let alone what litter to bring?


The CrowBox mentioned in the article uses basic Skinner techniques:

Stage One: Discovery and Free Feeding
Stage Two: Food Available On Landing
Stage Three: Food Available on Deposit, Training Coins Provided
Stage Four: Food Available On Coin Deposit
 
2020-10-31 3:42:43 PM  

edmo: I imagine those birds will figure out how to get into the hopper.


Nah, not if the lid is too heavy/secure. They're clever, but only so strong.

I used to have a cat, a purebred Abyssinian, who was very very clever. She figured out how to open several different door knobs and handles from carefully watching us, however there were some doors she clearly had figured out how to do, but she wasn't strong enough to actually work the knob or handle and also pull the door open. She'd try the right things, but she just physically couldn't because she was tiny.
 
2020-10-31 4:11:22 PM  

mongbiohazard: edmo: I imagine those birds will figure out how to get into the hopper.

Nah, not if the lid is too heavy/secure. They're clever, but only so strong.

I used to have a cat, a purebred Abyssinian, who was very very clever. She figured out how to open several different door knobs and handles from carefully watching us, however there were some doors she clearly had figured out how to do, but she wasn't strong enough to actually work the knob or handle and also pull the door open. She'd try the right things, but she just physically couldn't because she was tiny.


How was she on the dulcimer? Did she like songs about Mount Abora?
 
2020-10-31 4:15:45 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: KRSESQ: HTH do you train the birds to bring litter to the feeder?

/let alone what litter to bring?

The CrowBox mentioned in the article uses basic Skinner techniques:

Stage One: Discovery and Free Feeding
Stage Two: Food Available On Landing
Stage Three: Food Available on Deposit, Training Coins Provided
Stage Four: Food Available On Coin Deposit


Yeah so you have the dispenser and caps are already on the table.  They can start with just a cup.  It puts one in the cup and food comes out.  You then automate it to a hopper shown.  Then you take the bottle caps away and they will go and find them.
 
2020-10-31 4:16:39 PM  

A Festering Boil: mongbiohazard: edmo: I imagine those birds will figure out how to get into the hopper.

Nah, not if the lid is too heavy/secure. They're clever, but only so strong.

I used to have a cat, a purebred Abyssinian, who was very very clever. She figured out how to open several different door knobs and handles from carefully watching us, however there were some doors she clearly had figured out how to do, but she wasn't strong enough to actually work the knob or handle and also pull the door open. She'd try the right things, but she just physically couldn't because she was tiny.

How was she on the dulcimer? Did she like songs about Mount Abora?


Would that be a hammered dulcimer or a sober dulcimer?
 
2020-10-31 6:36:58 PM  
Alternatively, train them to put change in, and pay them accordingly in seed (eg, more seed for higher value coins).

Will quickly pay off itself as they raid all of the lost change in the area.
 
2020-10-31 6:51:50 PM  

dyhchong: Alternatively, train them to put change in, and pay them accordingly in seed (eg, more seed for higher value coins).

Will quickly pay off itself as they raid all of the lost change in the area.


And then the birds learn how to mug people...
 
2020-10-31 6:57:09 PM  

Marksrevenge: dyhchong: Alternatively, train them to put change in, and pay them accordingly in seed (eg, more seed for higher value coins).

Will quickly pay off itself as they raid all of the lost change in the area.

And then the birds learn how to mug people...


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2020-11-01 12:37:48 AM  

edmo: I imagine those birds will figure out how to get into the hopper.


I expect it's more likely that they'll figure out how to trigger the senor without letting go of the bottlecap, or find something other than bottlecaps that can trigger the sensor. If it's just an IR beam or something that detects when it's interrupted, they might be able to just poke a stick down in over and over again to get all the food they want.

I wonder if a peanut could trigger the sensor, because the magpies sure seem to like the cat food better, I could see them dropping the peanuts down the hole in the hopes of getting cat food the next time.
 
2020-11-01 1:59:56 AM  
Another settlement needs my help? You don't look like you're up to a whole lot of anything Preston Crowvey, go do it your farking self.
 
2020-11-01 3:53:45 PM  
Wow, no "crowsourcing" jokes?
 
2020-11-01 4:58:21 PM  
Don't trust the birds. They are Institute spies.
 
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