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2020-10-30 10:49:42 PM  
Sure the conditions of Donnie's bond will limit his travel and possibly his social media.
 
2020-10-30 10:56:25 PM  
I'm sure various military and intelligence offices are already planning what stuff they need to update before Trump blabs even more classified intel to foreign leaders.
 
2020-10-30 11:20:00 PM  

NeoCortex42: I'm sure various military and intelligence offices are already planning what stuff they need to update before Trump blabs even more classified intel to foreign leaders.


It's unlikely there's any spies in Russia now.

/Hopefully because they were pulled before Trump blabbed about them to Putin
 
2020-10-30 11:53:19 PM  
Welp, that was a f*cking horror story!
I think the greatest concern may not lay with Trump, but the sycophantic f*cks he's surrounded himself with during his term. Miller, Jared, Ivanka, etc..
There was an article written in 2017 about Jared requesting highly classified documents that had no relation to his portfolio. Then the furor started regarding his inability to get SCI clearance. What did Donny boy do? Gave it to him anyways.
They should all be treated as 'compromised by foreign entities' for the rest of their lives.

/yes yes, concern noted..
 
2020-10-31 12:10:35 AM  

Redh8t: Welp, that was a f*cking horror story!
I think the greatest concern may not lay with Trump, but the sycophantic f*cks he's surrounded himself with during his term. Miller, Jared, Ivanka, etc..
There was an article written in 2017 about Jared requesting highly classified documents that had no relation to his portfolio. Then the furor started regarding his inability to get SCI clearance. What did Donny boy do? Gave it to him anyways.
They should all be treated as 'compromised by foreign entities' for the rest of their lives.

/yes yes, concern noted..


The second he's sworn out of office, he's going to file for his 2024 candidacy.

The grift MUST continue.

That is, until the NYAG drops a piano on his head.
 
2020-10-31 12:20:06 AM  
Been saying this since the start. Still better than having him in office.
 
2020-10-31 12:25:05 AM  

markie_farkie: The second he's sworn out of office, he's going to file for his 2024 candidacy.


This. And he'll spend the next four years campaigning. Unless the media get bored of him you're never going to stop hearing about him every day.
 
2020-10-31 1:06:22 AM  
I hope that piece of shiat dies in prison.
 
2020-10-31 1:08:26 AM  
I look forward to the indictments.
 
2020-10-31 1:33:31 AM  
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No interviews, no book deal, no cell phone.
The entire family needs to join him too.

/Praise the Gods, no Twitter
 
2020-10-31 1:40:39 AM  
Former President Trump, or has he'll be known formally, the defendant.
 
2020-10-31 1:56:08 AM  
Hopefully Twitter will drop him since he's no longer a politician his protection there as a matter of public interest are over.
 
2020-10-31 2:12:54 AM  
The way I understood it, you guys get to call him "Mr President" for the rest of his life.
Out of respect.
 
2020-10-31 2:20:35 AM  

markie_farkie: Redh8t: Welp, that was a f*cking horror story!
I think the greatest concern may not lay with Trump, but the sycophantic f*cks he's surrounded himself with during his term. Miller, Jared, Ivanka, etc..
There was an article written in 2017 about Jared requesting highly classified documents that had no relation to his portfolio. Then the furor started regarding his inability to get SCI clearance. What did Donny boy do? Gave it to him anyways.
They should all be treated as 'compromised by foreign entities' for the rest of their lives.

/yes yes, concern noted..

The second he's sworn out of office, he's going to file for his 2024 candidacy.

The grift MUST continue.

That is, until the NYAG drops a piano on his head.


Let's face it, CNN and MSNBC are going to miss the ratings.  There are going to be stories every day about how much momentum he's gathering for a run in 2024
 
2020-10-31 2:59:42 AM  
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2020-10-31 3:06:35 AM  
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2020-10-31 3:06:56 AM  
WHAT IS THE POINT OF IMPEACHMENT IF HE IS STILL CALLED PRESIDENT
 
2020-10-31 3:08:10 AM  

Redh8t: Welp, that was a f*cking horror story!
I think the greatest concern may not lay with Trump, but the sycophantic f*cks he's surrounded himself with during his term. Miller, Jared, Ivanka, etc..
There was an article written in 2017 about Jared requesting highly classified documents that had no relation to his portfolio. Then the furor started regarding his inability to get SCI clearance. What did Donny boy do? Gave it to him anyways.
They should all be treated as 'compromised by foreign entities' for the rest of their lives.

/yes yes, concern noted..


I've never heard anything about Bidens plan for the Trump admin after hes in. All I've heard is I want to hire republicans in my admin and we must come together.

The whole trump family and admin needs to burn to the farking ground.
 
2020-10-31 3:09:39 AM  
I don't think i'd mind prison as much with a Secret Service detail. Instant hired muscle. I'd be Kingpin.
 
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2020-10-31 3:11:37 AM  

labman: Hopefully Twitter will drop him since he's no longer a politician his protection there as a matter of public interest are over.


He will still be a politician, he is eligible to run again.
 
2020-10-31 3:11:37 AM  
Trump's Twitter account couldn't be shut down because of his newsworthiness. (Link.)

But once he's out of office, I could see Twitter suspending his account forever.
 
2020-10-31 3:11:50 AM  
He'll probably still hold rallies.

Why would he stop? He likes doing them and he has a captive audience willing to follow him around like Deadheads. And it's free grift.
 
2020-10-31 3:14:08 AM  
He is going to be hit hard with charges on the 4th of November regardless of if he wins or loses. Republicans will want to be done with him as well.
 
2020-10-31 3:15:04 AM  
Article assumes he won't be in jail or a pauper from his billion dollar loans coming due.
 
2020-10-31 3:15:50 AM  
They left out Vlad issuing the code word to Melania for the face full of pillow.

(I wonder if Donnie sleeps with a My Pillow.  That would be awesome.)

/the code word is romanov
 
2020-10-31 3:18:59 AM  
"He's still the leader of a movement," says Nancy Gibbs,

Well, let's unpack that shall we? He's the leader of a movement because he can give them what they want: a mouthpiece for their unpalatable views, protection from public opprobium, a public platform from which to be heard, and a legitimate face for their illegitimate acts.

Once he's no longer president, a lot of that goes away. He's no longer President Trump, he's Donald Trump, former President. He doesn't have the public admiration that Jimmy Carter worked very hard to obtain, or the personal grace that Obama has, or the ability to schmooze that Clinton possesses. He has a public platform because he was given one BECAUSE he was running for and then became president. When he stops being president, there is no longer any reason to aim a camera at him, no matter what he says.

After all, we hear about Carter because of the amazing good works he does, NOT because he's a former president. He eradicated a horrible crippling parasite in Africa and builds low-income housing around the country. Otherwise, we don't hear much. We only hear about Clinton because his wife remained a DC insider for so many years. Trump is unlikely to do much good anywhere; and his wives or spawn are unlikely to be tapped for Cabinet positions in the next administration.

So he can stand on a podium and yell "LOCK HER UP!" if he wants; there's no reason for the media to pay attention--he's not running for any office he's likely to win and he won't be sending underprivileged kids to school or finding a cure for malaria. He will be running from the oligarchs and the Triad though. And once the media spotlight swings another way, his "followers" who need both the exposure and the protection that he currently provides will have to seek it someplace else. A leader who can't attract new followers and hold off the enemy is not much of a leader.

What will happen is his followers will splinter back into factions like they were before Trump came along; those white supremacist groups hate each other almost as much as they hate blacks and gays. In six months, not one of them will even have a MAGA hat, guaranteed.
 
2020-10-31 3:21:34 AM  
Will ex-president Trump be bad? Certainly. He's a walking pile of douche.
Will it be as bad as him as president? Fark no.
 
2020-10-31 3:25:19 AM  

Gyrfalcon: So he can stand on a podium and yell "LOCK HER UP!" if he wants; there's no reason for the media to pay attention--he's not running for any office he's likely to win and he won't be sending underprivileged kids to school or finding a cure for malaria.


Logically you're right but logic plays almost no role in determining what stories the media will choose to cover. Conflict the audience can buy into is the main reason to run a story. Whether it's helpful for society or detrimentally divisive doesn't matter to most media organisations.

The difficulty with your point is that Trump was never running for office when he spent literally years on his birther bullshiat quest denigrating Barack Obama. But he did it anyway and the media lapped it up. It's definitely going to happen again. He craves the attention and there's sadly going to be a market for it.
 
2020-10-31 3:25:43 AM  
No mention of courts, jail or prison.

They are not thinking hard enough.
 
2020-10-31 3:28:20 AM  

Bob Down: The way I understood it, you guys get to call him "Mr President" for the rest of his life.
Out of respect.


Respect is earned.

He has less respect now than compared to four years ago.
 
2020-10-31 3:28:22 AM  

Leishu: Will ex-president Trump be bad? Certainly. He's a walking pile of douche.
Will it be as bad as him as president? Fark no.


Forget it, subby's rolling.

Anybody w 2 functioning brain cells already knows that a Trump with control of the Executive branch is immeasurably worse than one that can only flap his gums.
 
2020-10-31 3:28:37 AM  
January 21st, kick him off of Twitter and Facebook. Whatever traffic he may draw isn't worth it.
 
2020-10-31 3:33:03 AM  

Bob Down: The way I understood it, you guys get to call him "Mr President" for the rest of his life.
Out of respect.


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/That fence don't paint!
 
2020-10-31 3:36:54 AM  
What if we just ignored him?
 
2020-10-31 3:37:55 AM  

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I can think of at least 230,000 reasons that Biden would be justified in yelling.

/just sayin'
 
2020-10-31 3:39:04 AM  

Redh8t: Welp, that was a f*cking horror story!
I think the greatest concern may not lay with Trump, but the sycophantic f*cks he's surrounded himself with during his term. Miller, Jared, Ivanka, etc..
There was an article written in 2017 about Jared requesting highly classified documents that had no relation to his portfolio. Then the furor started regarding his inability to get SCI clearance. What did Donny boy do? Gave it to him anyways.
They should all be treated as 'compromised by foreign entities' for the rest of their lives.

/yes yes, concern noted..


Remind me, when did that Saudi purge happen again?
 
2020-10-31 3:39:34 AM  

starsrift: What if we just ignored him?


You may have that luxury, we do not.
 
2020-10-31 3:41:14 AM  
I'm willing to risk it.

//Everything in life consists of weighing one level of risk against another
/The possible risk of what Trump might do if he doesn't win is far exceeded by the near-certain risk if he does
 
2020-10-31 3:42:49 AM  
Does anyone really believe Trump will ever spend one second in jail? At most he'll get some fines and a slap on the wrist.
 
2020-10-31 3:43:04 AM  
Maybe someone can start a new party, taking any non-trump and other rightward-leaning folk with them.

They can call it "The Ancient and Mystical Political Party of No Trumps."

/they can have Mary Trump as a founding member
//it says "No TrumpS," we're allowed to have one
///d'oh
 
2020-10-31 3:44:47 AM  

Bob Down: The way I understood it, you guys get to call him "Mr President" for the rest of his life.
Out of respect.


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2020-10-31 3:45:24 AM  

Naido: Let's face it, CNN and MSNBC are going to miss the ratings.  There are going to be stories every day about how much momentum he's gathering for a run in 2024


I dunno- they can probably stretch out breathless coverage of all the various trials, indictments, hearings, motions, pleadings, immunity deals for the people that turn state's evidence, congressional investigations, hearings, and subpoenas (and then the tweets about all of that stuff) for quite a while. I don't think MSNBC or CNN are going to be hurting for Trump content anytime in the foreseeable future.
 
2020-10-31 3:46:30 AM  

Gyrfalcon: "He's still the leader of a movement," says Nancy Gibbs,

Well, let's unpack that shall we? He's the leader of a movement because he can give them what they want: a mouthpiece for their unpalatable views, protection from public opprobium, a public platform from which to be heard, and a legitimate face for their illegitimate acts.

Once he's no longer president, a lot of that goes away. He's no longer President Trump, he's Donald Trump, former President. He doesn't have the public admiration that Jimmy Carter worked very hard to obtain, or the personal grace that Obama has, or the ability to schmooze that Clinton possesses. He has a public platform because he was given one BECAUSE he was running for and then became president. When he stops being president, there is no longer any reason to aim a camera at him, no matter what he says.

After all, we hear about Carter because of the amazing good works he does, NOT because he's a former president. He eradicated a horrible crippling parasite in Africa and builds low-income housing around the country. Otherwise, we don't hear much. We only hear about Clinton because his wife remained a DC insider for so many years. Trump is unlikely to do much good anywhere; and his wives or spawn are unlikely to be tapped for Cabinet positions in the next administration.

So he can stand on a podium and yell "LOCK HER UP!" if he wants; there's no reason for the media to pay attention--he's not running for any office he's likely to win and he won't be sending underprivileged kids to school or finding a cure for malaria. He will be running from the oligarchs and the Triad though. And once the media spotlight swings another way, his "followers" who need both the exposure and the protection that he currently provides will have to seek it someplace else. A leader who can't attract new followers and hold off the enemy is not much of a leader.

What will happen is his followers will splinter back into factions like they were before Trump came a ...


That was publishable. Sometimes a Farker cranks out a post that should have appeared in The Atlantic or The Baffler or Tin House or some shiat that people in tweed would read. The kind of people who would take out their pipe and say, "Here here, old bean." Love it. Now if we could just turn that into votes.
 
2020-10-31 3:46:48 AM  

Bob Down: The way I understood it, you guys get to call him "Mr President" for the rest of his life.
Out of respect.


I don't call him that now.
 
2020-10-31 3:48:27 AM  
A lot of factors play into this:  the lack of immunity he has as a former president, the role that his financial state plays in his survival, and the fact that if he loses big enough he may either be forgotten by the GOP at large like Dubya was or become such a thorn in their side that he sabotages them for as long as he lives.

It's hard to say how this swings, but I imagine that the chickens come to roost for Trump.  He's pissed off so many people that it's hard to see how he's not farked over by everybody for the rest of his life.
 
2020-10-31 3:48:28 AM  

Skyfrog: Does anyone really believe Trump will ever spend one second in jail? At most he'll get some fines and a slap on the wrist.


My prediction is I don't believe he'll be charged with any Federal crimes (and he might have even been pardoned by Pence like Nixon was by Ford if he stands down before January), New York might have some white collar stuff and I agree fines would be the likely outcome.

The comparisons I always make are with Henry KIssinger and Dick Cheney. Both lied a lot which ultimately cost thousands of US lives in overseas wars and also the deaths of many tens of thousands of others. Both are free men today celebrated by the Republican Party with never a hint they'd be charged or prosecuted or jailed or executed for their horrific actions. Trump's a scumbag pure and simple but he's no Dick farking Cheney when it comes to pure evil.
 
2020-10-31 3:50:07 AM  
It can't go on forever. He's a sick old man, he's going to die eventually.
 
2020-10-31 4:02:19 AM  
If Trump gets convicted, after being voted out, for defrauding the US Government to benefit his businesses he will lose all Government pay, Secret Service protections, etc..., and go to Club Fed where he can get his name on that wall.
 
2020-10-31 4:08:52 AM  

Tomoko: It can't go on forever. He's a sick old man, he's going to die eventually.


I was thinking it might be criminal if the govt. didn't use deepfake tech to be able to impersonate the president in the event of a national emergency.  Like Big Brother in 1984, Trump could 'live on' forever (or all our lifetimes anyway).
 
2020-10-31 4:10:34 AM  

Skyfrog: Does anyone really believe Trump will ever spend one second in jail? At most he'll get some fines and a slap on the wrist.


I hope he at least loses his empire and all his property. Maybe his kids in jail, he will sacrifice all of them to stay free.
 
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