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(CNN)   Ric Romero reports from the CDC: Covid achieves nearly 100% spread in the one place nobody's expected to socially distance or wear masks   (cnn.com) divider line
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2020-10-31 6:09:16 AM  
Also ric romero: wearing masks and socially distancing in a house wont do a single farking bit of good anyways, because you all share the same air and wont be keeping the windows open in winter
 
2020-10-31 6:11:16 AM  

Concrete Donkey: Also ric romero: wearing masks and socially distancing in a house wont do a single farking bit of good anyways, because you all share the same air and wont be keeping the windows open in winter


I dunno if it's really useless.. I'm wearing my mask at home sometimes on bad air quality days.. they do help with fall allergies.
 
2020-10-31 6:12:23 AM  
A good reason to keep a big stock of OTC cold/flu medications, cleaning supplies, and two weeks of easily prepared food. Assuming you're not hospitalized you're gonna have to do it yourself.
 
2020-10-31 6:22:17 AM  
The biggest problem is not enough contact tracing. If you could know you were exposed you could take measures to minimize the chance of familial spreading (for instance I have an RV that the exposed person could isolate in), but if you have to wait till you're symptomatic to take action it's almost for sure too late, your family has been stewing in virus particles for a few days by that point.
 
2020-10-31 6:33:53 AM  

Concrete Donkey: Also ric romero: wearing masks and socially distancing in a house wont do a single farking bit of good anyways, because you all share the same air and wont be keeping the windows open in winter


I'm sure that is true for most people, but interestingly enough because I live on the third floor and the two floors below always have their heaters running, I actually end up leaving my windows open all winter, otherwise it gets unbearably hot in here LOL
 
2020-10-31 6:38:43 AM  

robodog: The biggest problem is not enough contact tracing. If you could know you were exposed you could take measures to minimize the chance of familial spreading (for instance I have an RV that the exposed person could isolate in), but if you have to wait till you're symptomatic to take action it's almost for sure too late, your family has been stewing in virus particles for a few days by that point.


Sure doesn't help.  Are ANY of the states doing it effectively?

We aren't in Mass, and the Feds for damn sure aren't.

/and here I am, a chump stuck with a U.S. passport
 
2020-10-31 6:38:51 AM  
I'll be totally honest, I'm starting to dislike to this Covid business.
 
2020-10-31 6:39:40 AM  

thealgorerhythm: A good reason to keep a big stock of OTC cold/flu medications, cleaning supplies, and two weeks of easily prepared food. Assuming you're not hospitalized you're gonna have to do it yourself.


Indeed. I've filled the freezers, stocked up on canned and boxed foods and OTC 's , though I rarely use the OTC's. Incidentally, many groceries and pharmacies have always delivered and many more are making a special effort with Covid-19. Amazon and a number of outlets--Schwann's, Hello Fresh, Pea Pod, Butcher Box--deliver food, and Amazon has some sort of prescription drug service. And a number of companies provide mail-order pharmaceuticals.

(I understand people that hate Amazon, but here in the boonies, I use them for most of my shopping--exponentially so this year.)
 
2020-10-31 6:56:20 AM  

PunGent: Sure doesn't help.  Are ANY of the states doing it effectively?


There are just too many cases.
 
2020-10-31 7:05:33 AM  

BMFPitt: PunGent: Sure doesn't help.  Are ANY of the states doing it effectively?

There are just too many cases.


Well, there might be now, but even a month ago it was a solvable problem. With 42k fault infections we would have needed about a quarter million contact tracers. There are ~3M people in the US employed in the telemarketing field so we would have needed about 8% of the field to switch to contact tracing, hardly an undoable feat. I mean even today at 2.5x that infection rate it might be doable, but it's quickly getting out of hand.
 
2020-10-31 7:12:19 AM  

robodog: The biggest problem is not enough contact tracing. If you could know you were exposed you could take measures to minimize the chance of familial spreading (for instance I have an RV that the exposed person could isolate in), but if you have to wait till you're symptomatic to take action it's almost for sure too late, your family has been stewing in virus particles for a few days by that point.


I ain't telling no gubberment my business and where I done been. I had one of those liberuals call me up the other day talking bout "You may have been exposed to Covid and we need to know who you done been in contact with." I told that lady that I wasn't telling her a damn thing, and to stay out people's business. She ain't putting no tracking chip in me.
Now as soon as I get this coughing under control, I gotta get to my shift working the cafeteria at the hospital. we've been busy with a bunch of sissies complaining they sick or something, and ain't going let no sniffle keep me from going to work. And after work, me and the boys is going bowling. Good times!
 
2020-10-31 7:13:39 AM  

PunGent: robodog: The biggest problem is not enough contact tracing. If you could know you were exposed you could take measures to minimize the chance of familial spreading (for instance I have an RV that the exposed person could isolate in), but if you have to wait till you're symptomatic to take action it's almost for sure too late, your family has been stewing in virus particles for a few days by that point.

Sure doesn't help.  Are ANY of the states doing it effectively?

We aren't in Mass, and the Feds for damn sure aren't.

/and here I am, a chump stuck with a U.S. passport


The number of countries doing "well" is quickly declining.
 
2020-10-31 7:14:33 AM  

MythDragon: robodog: The biggest problem is not enough contact tracing. If you could know you were exposed you could take measures to minimize the chance of familial spreading (for instance I have an RV that the exposed person could isolate in), but if you have to wait till you're symptomatic to take action it's almost for sure too late, your family has been stewing in virus particles for a few days by that point.

I ain't telling no gubberment my business and where I done been. I had one of those liberuals call me up the other day talking bout "You may have been exposed to Covid and we need to know who you done been in contact with." I told that lady that I wasn't telling her a damn thing, and to stay out people's business. She ain't putting no tracking chip in me.
Now as soon as I get this coughing under control, I gotta get to my shift working the cafeteria at the hospital. we've been busy with a bunch of sissies complaining they sick or something, and ain't going let no sniffle keep me from going to work. And after work, me and the boys is going bowling. Good times!


Found the government shill.
 
2020-10-31 8:24:43 AM  

PunGent: robodog: The biggest problem is not enough contact tracing. If you could know you were exposed you could take measures to minimize the chance of familial spreading (for instance I have an RV that the exposed person could isolate in), but if you have to wait till you're symptomatic to take action it's almost for sure too late, your family has been stewing in virus particles for a few days by that point.

Sure doesn't help.  Are ANY of the states doing it effectively?

We aren't in Mass, and the Feds for damn sure aren't.

/and here I am, a chump stuck with a U.S. passport


As wITh tEsTinG, cOntaCt traCinG cReaTes MorE caSes. IF wE sToPped tRacINg theRe woulD bE fEWer cAses! StUdy iT oUT!
 
2020-10-31 8:27:13 AM  

MythDragon: robodog: The biggest problem is not enough contact tracing. If you could know you were exposed you could take measures to minimize the chance of familial spreading (for instance I have an RV that the exposed person could isolate in), but if you have to wait till you're symptomatic to take action it's almost for sure too late, your family has been stewing in virus particles for a few days by that point.

I ain't telling no gubberment my business and where I done been. I had one of those liberuals call me up the other day talking bout "You may have been exposed to Covid and we need to know who you done been in contact with." I told that lady that I wasn't telling her a damn thing, and to stay out people's business. She ain't putting no tracking chip in me.
Now as soon as I get this coughing under control, I gotta get to my shift working the cafeteria at the hospital. we've been busy with a bunch of sissies complaining they sick or something, and ain't going let no sniffle keep me from going to work. And after work, me and the boys is going bowling. Good times!


That's the spirit!
 
2020-10-31 9:00:46 AM  
So if you have a big 'ol McMansion and are lucky enough to still be in the top 10% of income earners in this new Depression, you have a chance at not infecting your whole family.

The rest of us wage slaves are doomed to not only be forced to infect our entire families, but also everyone else because we have no choice but to go to work or starve, and send our kids to school in person or get arrested.

The reason the administration isn't doing anything about the pandemic is because it's the best tool for class warfare they ever got, and they didn't even need to spend anything to create it.
 
2020-10-31 9:03:58 AM  
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2020-10-31 9:37:27 AM  
Fever-reducing medications, such as acetaminophen

Aspirin's apparently important. Being someone taking a daily low-dose aspirin has been shown to lower the chances someone hospitalized needs oxygen, has to go on a respirator, dies on a respirator instead of recovering... on the order of 40% each IIRC. I'm surprised there isn't more being written about this. Not recommended for children who might get Reye Syndrome. At least until real doc say otherwise. INADoctor but chicken pox and flu plus aspirin treatment caused a maximum of 555 cases in 1980 in the very young.

And of course antibacterial soap doesn't help it isn't a bacteria.  Plain soap just neatly dissolves the virus which is largely made of it. 20 seconds
 
2020-10-31 10:34:23 AM  

MythDragon: robodog: The biggest problem is not enough contact tracing. If you could know you were exposed you could take measures to minimize the chance of familial spreading (for instance I have an RV that the exposed person could isolate in), but if you have to wait till you're symptomatic to take action it's almost for sure too late, your family has been stewing in virus particles for a few days by that point.

I ain't telling no gubberment my business and where I done been. I had one of those liberuals call me up the other day talking bout "You may have been exposed to Covid and we need to know who you done been in contact with." I told that lady that I wasn't telling her a damn thing, and to stay out people's business. She ain't putting no tracking chip in me.
Now as soon as I get this coughing under control, I gotta get to my shift working the cafeteria at the hospital. we've been busy with a bunch of sissies complaining they sick or something, and ain't going let no sniffle keep me from going to work. And after work, me and the boys is going bowling. Good times!


I see you live in my area. Howdy, neighbor! Don't forget the casino's open for a little weekend relaxation :)
 
2020-10-31 2:16:25 PM  
For fark's sake.

Stay home, if at all possible. If you can't stay home, wear a mask, practice social distancing, and carry hand sanitizer with you. If you have to bring stuff back home, practice sterile procedure. If you have to let people who don't live in your home into your home, ensure that they wear a mask, practice social distancing, and use hand sanitizer.

Don't be "paranoid," but do be aware of the risks involved, especially if you or anyone with whom you're in regular contact is in one of the high-risk groups. Don't be fearful; be responsible. You are now responsible not just for your own health, but for the health of those for whom you love & care. Don't be an idiot.
 
2020-10-31 2:21:14 PM  
It can't be all that obvious. My kids' school district is behaving like they don't know this. High school's all virtual due to too many covid positive students. Meanwhile, middle and elementary schools are still open.
 
2020-10-31 3:33:14 PM  

Golden Brown Delicious: Concrete Donkey: Also ric romero: wearing masks and socially distancing in a house wont do a single farking bit of good anyways, because you all share the same air and wont be keeping the windows open in winter

I'm sure that is true for most people, but interestingly enough because I live on the third floor and the two floors below always have their heaters running, I actually end up leaving my windows open all winter, otherwise it gets unbearably hot in here LOL


My old townhouse like that.

80 year olds on both sides and tons of heat passing through those walls.
 
2020-10-31 4:56:56 PM  

robodog: The biggest problem is not enough contact tracing. If you could know you were exposed you could take measures to minimize the chance of familial spreading (for instance I have an RV that the exposed person could isolate in), but if you have to wait till you're symptomatic to take action it's almost for sure too late, your family has been stewing in virus particles for a few days by that point.


Yeap.

I just went through contact tracing and quarantine.  Got a call from NYS saying I'd been in close contact with someone who tested positive.  From the timeline I think it was my home health aid.  She was here for 2 hours.  We both had masks.  I don't seem to have caught it (my temp ran a tiny bit above what it normally would but never hit 100 which is the trigger point.)  I had to arrange my own test at the end of the quarantine.  I came back negative, but that was 15 days after initial exposure and they didn't do any tracing during that time.  I told the two people I was in near contact with myself (my 78 year old mom, who I spent an our or two with with masks and a friend who spotted me walking back to my car after getting locked out of my car in the rain... that was about 10-15 minutes in the car with masks waiting for someone to show up to help unlock my car, which would just barely be on the edge for what they want tracing on.  Slightly less time at a restaurant waiting for them to heat up two slices that also would have been close to the threshold, and two shorter store trips, including touching someone else's phone- I didn't have mine with me when I was locked out of my car)  Test results came in two days after I was tested.

I wasn't told I'd been in contact with someone who tested positive until 9 days after the exposure.  We should be testing immediately when someone shows symptoms, getting test results back in a day, and anyone with exposure should be doing immediate contact tracing as soon as they know they've had a serious exposure risk.

And NYS is supposed to be one of the states that is doing it better.
 
2020-11-01 3:52:06 AM  

BMFPitt: PunGent: Sure doesn't help.  Are ANY of the states doing it effectively?

There are just too many cases.


There's a lot of unemployed people, and we dumped a trillion tax dollars into the stock market...you'd think the wealthiest country on the planet could put those people to work doing...I dunno...contact tracing?

/could've done it with ten guys, back at the start of this shiatshow
 
2020-11-01 7:36:02 AM  

PunGent: There's a lot of unemployed people


Yes.

and we dumped a trillion tax dollars into the stock market

Derp.

you'd think the wealthiest country on the planet could put those people to work doing...I dunno...contact tracing?

You can't just snap your fingers and make it happen.  It takes training and scaling up.  We're spreading the virus faster than we can do that.

/could've done it with ten guys, back at the start of this shiatshow

We did.
 
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