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(Phys Org2)   Why are there as many as half a million barrels of toxic chemicals just off LA's coast? It's the farkin' Catalina DDT dumping ground. *POW*   (phys.org) divider line
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2020-10-30 5:31:36 PM  
Recent studies show our immune systems may be compromised. A new generation of women-exposed to DDT from their mothers, who were exposed by their mothers-grapples with the still-mysterious risks of breast cancer.

Unreal.
 
2020-10-30 6:11:03 PM  
26 miles across the sea
Santa Catalina is a-waitin' for me
Santa Catalina, the island of
Disease, disease, disease, disease
 
2020-10-30 6:54:09 PM  

koder: Recent studies show our immune systems may be compromised. A new generation of women-exposed to DDT from their mothers, who were exposed by their mothers-grapples with the still-mysterious risks of breast cancer.

Unreal.


Gah. DDT was banned as an environmental hazard to birds, not humans, in the US. It was (is?) still used around the world including dusting people to fight (I think) malaria.

Hopefully, the sunken DDT isn't exposing humans much. I used to live on the peninsula overlooking Catalina and spent time around Los Angeles harbor. There were signs all over saying essentially "Don't eat fish caught here". But there were plenty of people fishing on the pier and even spear fishing.
 
2020-10-30 7:01:48 PM  
Do we need to send some boats and hoes out to deal with it?
 
2020-10-30 7:08:20 PM  
You want some real fun?  Try heading up to the Farallon Islands for a dive.  You'll get a nice healthy glow out of it.
 
2020-10-30 7:30:17 PM  
This story is not new and this issue has been know about for 70 years and mitigation strategies debated for at least 30 years.
There have been several studies done already. The current thinking is to just leave the area alone because any attempt to mitigate  would only make the situation worse.
and to let them be naturally capped off by the underwater landslide that occur there.

The situation is farked up to say the least. It is also extremely complicated for a lot of reasons.
There is a LOT of very nasty stuff down there, that we know of. what else is down there, who knows.

DDT, Dioxin and PCBs are the known big three.
due to the history of heavy manufacturing in the area (major petro plants, aerospace-aviation,munitions storeage,  big plating companys, METLOX(a declared superfund site), the S.P-L.B Harbor complex.)

what I would like to see, it may have already been done and I just don't know it, is a comprehensive long term multidisciplinary  study of the local and down current effects. *

It's not like we don't have Scripps , UCSD or  UC. Santa Cruz.

Yeah, the situation is farked up. If you want to read more (you don't) search the L.A Times', L.A weekly, daily Breeze archives.


* I have high powered ins at both Scripps and UCSC. They both say no such study has been conducted.
I was told  "we have bigger problems"

How farked up is that?
 
2020-10-30 8:32:36 PM  
There are a lot of other things that have been dumped in that area.
There was a meltdown at the Santa Susana Field Lab a while ago.
That place became known as Rocketdyne, and the whole area for miles around shook when the did
rocket motor tests, as late as the 80's / early 90's.

I knew the man who drove trucks and blew the whistle on the whole thing, and that is why it is a superfund site that Boeing keeps trying to cover up.

I would not eat fish  / seafood caught south of Anacapa if I was you.

Also, all of our cats died from one form of cancer or another- I lived in Simi for far too long.
Those fires did not help anything more recently.
 
2020-10-30 8:37:18 PM  
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2020-10-30 8:43:39 PM  
Go fish those barrels and dump them in trump hotels.
 
2020-10-30 10:34:04 PM  
What, you don't remember that old adage, The Solution to Pollution is Dilution?

That wonderful post war idea that we could dump millions of tons of bad shiat in the ocean because it would only amount to parts per trillion and that wouldn't hurt anything.
 
2020-10-31 3:52:14 AM  

blender61: * I have high powered ins at both Scripps and UCSC. They both say no such study has been conducted.
I was told  "we have bigger problems"

How farked up is that?


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2020-10-31 2:40:32 PM  

alienated: There are a lot of other things that have been dumped in that area.
There was a meltdown at the Santa Susana Field Lab a while ago.
That place became known as Rocketdyne, and the whole area for miles around shook when the did
rocket motor tests, as late as the 80's / early 90's.

I knew the man who drove trucks and blew the whistle on the whole thing, and that is why it is a superfund site that Boeing keeps trying to cover up.

I would not eat fish  / seafood caught south of Anacapa if I was you.

Also, all of our cats died from one form of cancer or another- I lived in Simi for far too long.
Those fires did not help anything more recently.


I did some of my growing up in Simi Valley and remember the whole area shaking when they tested those rockets.

Also the hell's angels compound in that area that I accidentally trespassed while wheeling.
 
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