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2020-10-30 2:33:40 PM  
But Chief Epidemiologist Dr. P.I. Staker insisted it would just go away through herd immunity.
 
2020-10-30 2:56:50 PM  
The UK's only job is to make me feel better about how much America sucks these days.
 
Xai [TotalFark]
2020-10-30 3:06:29 PM  
Woo! We should be proud, we finally achieved our goal!

Well I imagine that's what the rest of the UK is saying right now, since a huge proportion of the UK population has repeatedly and blatantly ignored all rules and requirements, including political leaders, and the only conceivable conclusion, since we had it under control and it was dying, is that they really really wanted it to come back in a big way.

Congrats guys!
 
2020-10-30 3:17:12 PM  
Fredo said the pandemic was over.
 
2020-10-30 3:19:04 PM  
Soon.
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2020-10-30 3:19:58 PM  

kbronsito: The UK's only job is to make me feel better about how much America sucks these days.


Finally!  Something we are superior at!  Unless Trump wins, then the shoe will be on the other foot!   AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....brexit...........​...............

GODDAMNIT!!!!!!
 
2020-10-30 3:21:14 PM  
Ok, subby, but what about my ASS?
 
2020-10-30 3:25:42 PM  
Seems like no matter where you are you should be planning for a lockdown soon. Seems like most states in the US are only staying open at this point due to the election next week. After that you should be ready to shelter in place until Christmas. Bonus: You can send people rolls of TP instead of Christmas cards this year.
 
2020-10-30 3:28:53 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Seems like no matter where you are you should be planning for a lockdown soon. Seems like most states in the US are only staying open at this point due to the election next week. After that you should be ready to shelter in place until Christmas. Bonus: You can send people rolls of TP instead of Christmas cards this year.


The huge amount of travel in the US over the Thanksgiving period is going to cause a huge spike that will cause people to stay home for Christmas. Of course, some of those will be in hospitals but you get the idea.

I can't tell you the number of people I know who admit it's not really safe to visit for Thanksgiving who still intend on doing it.
 
2020-10-30 3:29:33 PM  

kbronsito: The UK's only job is to make me feel better about how much America sucks these days.


Sadly, despite Boris, Brexit, COVID mishandling, and the weather, the US doesn't come close to being as much of a clusterfark as America in 2020.

/ex-pat
 
2020-10-30 3:30:23 PM  
I just can't help but think about all the chronic Covid sufferers we're going to be stuck with before this thing is done having its way with us. Not dead, but with reduced lung capacity and all sorts of internal organ damage. All clamoring to get some sort of disability payment. Much of the world will be in perpetual recession for decades.
 
2020-10-30 3:30:28 PM  
Belgium, the US and France arent so much better but at least they are trying to shut things down unlike Murica.
 
2020-10-30 3:31:33 PM  
Well then, fire everybody at the BBC and close it down. Done and dusted.
 
2020-10-30 3:31:46 PM  
"This is significantly above the profile of the reasonable worst-case scenario


since when are worst-case scenarios meant to be 'reasonable'?
 
2020-10-30 3:32:56 PM  

physt: fragMasterFlash: Seems like no matter where you are you should be planning for a lockdown soon. Seems like most states in the US are only staying open at this point due to the election next week. After that you should be ready to shelter in place until Christmas. Bonus: You can send people rolls of TP instead of Christmas cards this year.

The huge amount of travel in the US over the Thanksgiving period is going to cause a huge spike that will cause people to stay home for Christmas. Of course, some of those will be in hospitals but you get the idea.

I can't tell you the number of people I know who admit it's not really safe to visit for Thanksgiving who still intend on doing it.


"What are you thankful for?"
"A total lack of awareness."
 
2020-10-30 3:33:12 PM  
FTA:

The Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) says there are around four times as many people catching Covid than anticipated.

See, that's the problem.  If only they have been listening to the People Advocating Responsible Scientific Leadership to Educate Youth years ago.
 
2020-10-30 3:33:17 PM  
Don't forget to adjust for British Understatement. They are climbing the walls
 
2020-10-30 3:37:20 PM  
Bono, whilst playing a gig in Glasgow, got the whole crowd to be silent and then began slowly clapping his hands. He got the crowd to clap along for a while, the stadium quiet except for the rhythmic clapping...
After a short period Bono spoke, saying that every time he clapped his hands a person in the UK caught Covid.

Suddenly, from the front row of the venue a voice broke out in thick Scottish brogue, ending the silence as it echoed across the crowd, the voice cried out to Bono "Well stop ****ing clapping then!!"
 
Juc
2020-10-30 3:39:12 PM  
people have more than one arse?
 
2020-10-30 3:40:20 PM  

toraque: FTA:

The Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) says there are around four times as many people catching Covid than anticipated.

See, that's the problem.  If only they have been listening to the People Advocating Responsible Scientific Leadership to Educate Youth years ago.


There just wasn't enough thyme to do that, though, Rosemary....
 
2020-10-30 3:40:51 PM  
...

I'd say the quality of my joke was pretty scarborough fair....
 
2020-10-30 3:43:45 PM  

FarkinNortherner: kbronsito: The UK's only job is to make me feel better about how much America sucks these days.

Sadly, despite Boris, Brexit, COVID mishandling, and the weather, the US doesn't come close to being as much of a clusterfark as America in 2020.

/ex-pat


But the UK is America's dad. So....

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2020-10-30 3:44:36 PM  

SpocksEars: Ok, subby, but what about my ASS?


Eeyore is doing just fine. Didn't think he would be.
 
2020-10-30 3:46:07 PM  

Fabric_Man: I just can't help but think about all the chronic Covid sufferers we're going to be stuck with before this thing is done having its way with us. Not dead, but with reduced lung capacity and all sorts of internal organ damage. All clamoring to get some sort of disability payment. Much of the world will be in perpetual recession for decades.


Unless you are a frontline/REALLY FOR REAL necessary worker, then no disability unless fully disabled.  Most people brought it on themselves.  I know a doctor that got it from his hunting buddy.  Who in there right mind would go 3 days camping and hunting and the commute there and back with someone and no PPE?  That guy.  Now positive, and feeling bad.  Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
 
2020-10-30 3:47:42 PM  
It is amazing to me how many countries are participating in this hoax. Who would have thought that the Demoncrats were such accomplished hoaxers. And who would have thought that the entire world would make such sacrifices, just to make Trump look bad. Thanks, my U.K. brethren.
 
2020-10-30 3:51:26 PM  
I find it hard to believe that the Johnson government would screw around and squander the time they had to mitigate damage from an entirely predictable self-inflicted catastrophe.  It's so out of character.  Maybe they can blame the EU.
 
2020-10-30 3:51:35 PM  

Brett Kavanaugh's teeth: Fabric_Man: I just can't help but think about all the chronic Covid sufferers we're going to be stuck with before this thing is done having its way with us. Not dead, but with reduced lung capacity and all sorts of internal organ damage. All clamoring to get some sort of disability payment. Much of the world will be in perpetual recession for decades.

Unless you are a frontline/REALLY FOR REAL necessary worker, then no disability unless fully disabled.  Most people brought it on themselves.  I know a doctor that got it from his hunting buddy.  Who in there right mind would go 3 days camping and hunting and the commute there and back with someone and no PPE?  That guy.  Now positive, and feeling bad.  Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


That won't even slow them down. They'll still apply, and get super indignant when they get rejected.
 
2020-10-30 3:53:22 PM  

CordycepsInYourBrain: It is amazing to me how many countries are participating in this hoax. Who would have thought that the Demoncrats were such accomplished hoaxers. And who would have thought that the entire world would make such sacrifices, just to make Trump look bad. Thanks, my U.K. brethren.


I'm just amazed at how much power trump has.  Everyone tells me he's an idiot and is doing a horrible job, but the damn guy spread a plague around the world despite the best efforts of nations much, much greater than ours trying to stop it.
 
2020-10-30 3:53:34 PM  

toraque: FTA:

The Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) says there are around four times as many people catching Covid than anticipated.

See, that's the problem.  If only they have been listening to the People Advocating Responsible Scientific Leadership to Educate Youth years ago.


I think it's about thyme this happened.
 
2020-10-30 3:53:56 PM  

Brett Kavanaugh's teeth: Fabric_Man: I just can't help but think about all the chronic Covid sufferers we're going to be stuck with before this thing is done having its way with us. Not dead, but with reduced lung capacity and all sorts of internal organ damage. All clamoring to get some sort of disability payment. Much of the world will be in perpetual recession for decades.

Unless you are a frontline/REALLY FOR REAL necessary worker, then no disability unless fully disabled.  Most people brought it on themselves.  I know a doctor that got it from his hunting buddy.  Who in there right mind would go 3 days camping and hunting and the commute there and back with someone and no PPE?  That guy.  Now positive, and feeling bad.  Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


This is a joke, right?

People have to work to pay their bills. You think covid is less likely to get ya when you're starving in the street?
 
2020-10-30 3:54:35 PM  

Juc: people have more than one arse?


Panic buying got weird.
 
2020-10-30 3:55:49 PM  

FarkinNortherner: kbronsito: The UK's only job is to make me feel better about how much America sucks these days.

Sadly, despite Boris, Brexit, COVID mishandling, and the weather, the US doesn't come close to being as much of a clusterfark as America in 2020.

/ex-pat


For better or worse, most people us "the US" and "America" interchangeably, so I don't even know what you are trying to say.
 
2020-10-30 3:58:34 PM  
Wots all this then?
 
2020-10-30 4:03:23 PM  
Would "voluntary human extinction" be a hard Brexit, then?
 
2020-10-30 4:04:32 PM  

TheAlgebraist: toraque: FTA:

The Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) says there are around four times as many people catching Covid than anticipated.

See, that's the problem.  If only they have been listening to the People Advocating Responsible Scientific Leadership to Educate Youth years ago.

I think it's about thyme this happened.


You joke, but the Standardized Agents for Legalizing Thyme ran into the People Expecting Personal Protective Equipment Refunds, and the next thing anyone knew, the Momentary Experiment for Locally Accessing Negative Gravitic Exponents started folding space and then were all right back where we started.
 
2020-10-30 4:05:26 PM  
That's a pretty poor excuse for a "worst case scenario," then.

Everyone in the country gets it today, 100% infection, all at the same time.  That's the real worst case.
 
2020-10-30 4:10:13 PM  
This great! We will be at herd immunity in no time and get back to having the best economy in world history. Hats (Masks lol) off to President Trump!
 
2020-10-30 4:16:39 PM  

Ambitwistor: Would "voluntary human extinction" be a hard Brexit, then?


Pretty sure that was the premise of 28 Days Later.
 
2020-10-30 4:17:21 PM  

Dr.ScottAtlas: This great! We will be at herd immunity in no time and get back to having the best economy in world history. Hats (Masks lol) off to President Trump!


He's not president of the UK......I mean not officially.
 
2020-10-30 4:17:27 PM  
Anyone remember the series Survivors? Hell of a way to do a remake.
 
2020-10-30 4:28:24 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: "This is significantly above the profile of the reasonable worst-case scenario


since when are worst-case scenarios meant to be 'reasonable'?


Worst case scenario, the universe implodes. Bunch of people get sick and die is pretty far from that
 
2020-10-30 4:53:07 PM  

Dr.ScottAtlas: This great! We will be at herd immunity in no time and get back to having the best economy in world history. Hats (Masks lol) off to President Trump!


Herd immunity, always doubtful, is now considered impossible because recent studies show post-infection immunity lasting only a few weeks.

Please wear a mask.
 
2020-10-30 4:56:31 PM  
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2020-10-30 4:58:29 PM  

Shakespeare's Monkey: Fredo said the pandemic was over.


And he's not like people say, like, dumb... he's smart! And he wants respect!

recombobulator: I find it hard to believe that the Johnson government would screw around and squander the time they had to mitigate damage from an entirely predictable self-inflicted catastrophe.  It's so out of character.  Maybe they can blame the EU.


The one thing in common among governments that have catastrophically failed responses to the 'rona is reich wing demagogues masquerading as "leaders." See: Trump, Johnson, Bolsonaro - aka the Axis of Ignance.

/They isn't ignorant... they's ignant. There's a difference.
 
2020-10-30 4:58:32 PM  

FarkinNortherner: kbronsito: The UK's only job is to make me feel better about how much America sucks these days.

Sadly, despite Boris, Brexit, COVID mishandling, and the weather, the US doesn't come close to being as much of a clusterfark as America in 2020.

/ex-pat


I read your bio. So that's one.

Good on you.
 
2020-10-30 5:10:05 PM  

LindenFark: Dr.ScottAtlas: This great! We will be at herd immunity in no time and get back to having the best economy in world history. Hats (Masks lol) off to President Trump!

Herd immunity, always doubtful, is now considered impossible because recent studies show post-infection immunity lasting only a few weeks.

Please wear a mask.


Do you mean antibody studies, or can you point to high reinfection rates?

Because if X% of the population is getting covid by date Y, then roughly X²% should be getting it twice by date Y+end of immunity. A little lower, as some will change behaviors and some will die. Or maybe a bit higher, as a lot of people without major complications brush it off as the flu or assume they have immunity.

Immunity/protection is more than anti-bodies.

I'm not saying I think herd immunity without a vaccine is an option or anything like that. I'm questioning the extremely low numbers of documented reinfection.
 
2020-10-30 5:15:10 PM  
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2020-10-30 5:17:14 PM  

NikolaiFarkoff: But Chief Epidemiologist Dr. P.I. Staker insisted it would just go away through herd immunity.


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2020-10-30 5:22:09 PM  

LindenFark: Dr.ScottAtlas: This great! We will be at herd immunity in no time and get back to having the best economy in world history. Hats (Masks lol) off to President Trump!

Herd immunity, always doubtful, is now considered impossible because recent studies show post-infection immunity lasting only a few weeks.

Please wear a mask.


Using the most recent available data from worldometer and doing the appropriate convolution integral, a period of immunity that expires after X months would imply Y cases of reinfection by now:

1 207000
2 172000
3 132000
4 77600
5 52250
6 32600
7 7110

If anything even remotely approaching -any- of those numbers of reinfections had occurred at this point, both the media and the medical community would be preparing for doomsday.

This doesn't imply immunity for life, but we are beginning to rule out the "worst case scenarios" in which immunity wanes after only 6 months. That said, SARS-1 survivors still have an immediate primary immune response to sars-1 antigens 20 years later of sufficient intensity that scientists suspect it would still confer effective immunity, though obviously since sars-1 has been exterminated there is no ethical way to test this hypothesis.
 
2020-10-30 5:28:22 PM  

erik-k: LindenFark: Dr.ScottAtlas: This great! We will be at herd immunity in no time and get back to having the best economy in world history. Hats (Masks lol) off to President Trump!

Herd immunity, always doubtful, is now considered impossible because recent studies show post-infection immunity lasting only a few weeks.

Please wear a mask.

Using the most recent available data from worldometer and doing the appropriate convolution integral, a period of immunity that expires after X months would imply Y cases of reinfection by now:

1 207000
2 172000
3 132000
4 77600
5 52250
6 32600
7 7110

If anything even remotely approaching -any- of those numbers of reinfections had occurred at this point, both the media and the medical community would be preparing for doomsday.

This doesn't imply immunity for life, but we are beginning to rule out the "worst case scenarios" in which immunity wanes after only 6 months. That said, SARS-1 survivors still have an immediate primary immune response to sars-1 antigens 20 years later of sufficient intensity that scientists suspect it would still confer effective immunity, though obviously since sars-1 has been exterminated there is no ethical way to test this hypothesis.


I think this person read the headline from yesterday.  Something like the virus only shows up in the white bloods cells for 2 or 3 weeks, so everybody panic!  It was quickly pointed out that that's not how our immune system works.
 
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