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2020-10-30 1:02:47 PM  
Every time voter access is expanded it's called a win for Democrats, rather than a win for democracy.  That tells you what you need to know about the state of American politics.
 
2020-10-30 1:54:56 PM  
Next step is the "constitutional originalists" reminding us only white male landowners should have their votes counted.
 
2020-10-30 3:06:07 PM  
To be fair, Patrick can't imagine winning without at least a li'l fraud, and the idea of winning fairly is just a null concept.
 
2020-10-30 6:30:16 PM  
He's the asshole that said grandma and grandpa should be willing to die for Trump's economy.

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2020-10-30 7:20:48 PM  
...and all the polls showing Biden kicking ass is just to cover up the fix

Sure. jan.
 
2020-10-30 7:20:57 PM  
Huh...asshole says what.
 
2020-10-30 7:21:27 PM  
Or maybe we win because you're all a bunch of pieces of shiat with failed ideologies.
 
2020-10-30 7:22:43 PM  
Dan Patrick is a blithering f*cking idiot who couldn't find his own ass with both hands, a map and a mirror.
 
2020-10-30 7:25:54 PM  
Internet high-five for the meter, subs.
 
2020-10-30 7:26:10 PM  
Why do Democrats refuse to call this shiat out?
 
2020-10-30 7:28:12 PM  
Trying to undermine free and fair elections should be a hanging offense.
 
2020-10-30 7:28:40 PM  
Trump is more infectious that Covid.  Since him, Repubs can't fail, they can only be failed.  They can't lose, they can only be cheated.  And as for them p*ssies?  Can't blame them for that, those things won't grab themselves, y'know?
 
2020-10-30 7:29:20 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Next step is the "constitutional originalists" reminding us only white male landowners should have their votes counted.


The first thing you have to do if you want to be a constitutional originalist is to disregard the writings of the founding fathers, who explicitly said it was stupid not to change with the times.
 
2020-10-30 7:29:55 PM  
Just saw a poll where supporters of both Repubs and Dems have a majority position that if their candidate loses, it's because the other side stole it. A clear majority of Farkers seem to be in this range too, but obviously we're a partisan crowd (and I'm not saying that's a bad thing of itself).

This is how democracy collapses, Americans. This is how empires crumble, fighting over the spoils of defeat.

Is America's age of dominance over? It's up to you. Are you voting for a candidate with principles or a candidate with the best fundraising capacity? Sometimes they might be the same, very often it's a poor choice way to preselect your politicians, but that's where you are. And your international allies would like to know how this plays out for us, that's my agenda in making this point.

All the rest of us know is that our elections don't come down to the battle of the septugenarians. It's the battle between the older guy (older than my dad who's got Alzheimers and is in zero shape to be leading anybody) versus the younger 74 year old who's clearly in worse shape. Wow. That's not exactly winning. New Zealand just re-elected a woman in her 30's with a toddler as their PM by a massive margin, that's how the rest of the world is doing it.

/Good luck!
 
2020-10-30 7:30:13 PM  
As a republican, we can safely assume he thinks voting is cheating.
 
2020-10-30 7:31:14 PM  
Falsely accusing your enemy of doing a thing while you are actually doing that thing is a strategy that goes back to the Nazis and beyond.
 
2020-10-30 7:31:35 PM  
Need to send "Dan Patrick" back to Baltimore, after changing his name back to the original.

Maybe his chances to open a chain of bars in Maryland or machine gun granny will be better after everyone catches the Flu mixed with the Covid, now becoming a big fad.
 
2020-10-30 7:34:43 PM  
How do those assholes not see how dangerous this rhetoric is?

Or do they just not care?
 
2020-10-30 7:35:13 PM  
If we were Irish Republicans yearning for freedom from the patriarchals of White Supremacist like Patrick
We'de put him up against the Wall and shoot him.
Just saying
 
2020-10-30 7:38:59 PM  
They know what they're doing, they want this in the courts.
 
2020-10-30 7:40:10 PM  
I am so sick of these farking Republican assholes.  Time to kick them to the electoral curb.  For generations.
 
2020-10-30 7:41:10 PM  
I bet he actually believes that they've made it so difficult for poor and minority voters to vote, that election fraud really is the only way for Dems to win.  Not something anybody should brag about, though.
 
2020-10-30 7:41:35 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: Why do Democrats refuse to call this shiat out?


I have a lot of answers to this question as I have been asking a variant of it for years.

Dem leadership decided a long time back to try to ignore RW propaganda in the hopes it would go away.

Bad call

What do you get when have one side constantly telling lies for decades about the other and the other utterly failing to mount a proper counter narrative?

You get Trump

You get QAnon.

You get everything you see right now.
 
2020-10-30 7:41:46 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: Why do Democrats refuse to call this shiat out?


That'd be uncivil, wouldn't want to upset their republican colleagues.
 
2020-10-30 7:42:21 PM  
What the fark is with Republicans looking flesh suits made by a goblin who only had ever been told what a human flesh suit is supposed to look like. 

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2020-10-30 7:42:53 PM  
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2020-10-30 7:43:37 PM  

Aussie_As: Just saw a poll where supporters of both Repubs and Dems have a majority position that if their candidate loses, it's because the other side stole it. A clear majority of Farkers seem to be in this range too, but obviously we're a partisan crowd (and I'm not saying that's a bad thing of itself).

This is how democracy collapses, Americans. This is how empires crumble, fighting over the spoils of defeat.

Is America's age of dominance over?


Bluntly, yes.  America has been in decline for quite some time- Trump is more a symptom than a cause.  We had a good run after WWII since we were the only industrialized country left standing and we spent a lot in building up people both at home through the GI Bill, FHA mortgages and such and abroad with the Marshall plan.  (Domestic benefits not available to all citizens) We had shocks in the 1960s that we reacted to by improving education, building a better social safety net and starting down the path of actual civil rights.

That progress has been crumbling for decades, and even with Biden in office it's going to continue- the rot is just too deep.   We hate scientific expertise, our best paid and most coveted jobs do nothing but shuffle money around while creating nothing, and social media gives our enemies, foreign and domestic, easy access to brainwashing techniques no state has ever had before.  More than 40% of America is literally in thrall to a con man and believes any setback to him is the end of civilization

Meanwhile, the rest of the world is moving on.  China has 4x our population, virtually no checks on its power and understands the long game where nobody in America looks past the next quarter's earnings statement.

It was a good run.
 
2020-10-30 7:44:37 PM  

Aquapope: I bet he actually believes that they've made it so difficult for poor and minority voters to vote, that election fraud really is the only way for Dems to win.  Not something anybody should brag about, though.


Republicans have been about suppressing votes for decades now. 

When fewer people vote, Republicans almost always win.

When more people vote, Democrats almost always win. 

The GOP knows this, and had been fighting against it forever now, doing everything to suppress the number of people voting, even if it means fewer people vote for them/Trump. 

It may backfire on them this time around with Record levels of early voting, and it highly favoring democrats.
 
2020-10-30 7:46:21 PM  
Patrick is more the QAnon Oracle, ever since the Tea Party was absorbed by the Borg.
 
2020-10-30 7:46:32 PM  

Aussie_As: Just saw a poll where supporters of both Repubs and Dems have a majority position that if their candidate loses, it's because the other side stole it. A clear majority of Farkers seem to be in this range too, but obviously we're a partisan crowd (and I'm not saying that's a bad thing of itself).


Major difference is that we have GOP assholes admitting they want to steal the election, and describing the various ways they're doing it.  We have dozens of lawsuits already from the GOP assholes trying to subvert the election.  We have the White House using it's power illegally to fark with voting, most obviously through the USPS.  We have the California GOP putting up fake ballot boxes and ignoring their AG and SoS to take them down.  What kind of evidence is there that the Dems are systemically trying to steal any election?
 
2020-10-30 7:47:32 PM  

EvilEgg: Every time voter access is expanded it's called a win for Democrats, rather than a win for democracy.  That tells you what you need to know about the state of American politics.


Yup.

The GOP has decided that people voting against them is election theft. They don't believe in representative governance, they only believe in ruling over others. They're fascists. Full stop. The GOP is a fascist organization. Their voters are fascists who simply have one goal - for no one else to ever have power. They've done everything but come out and admit it.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/0​8​/nation/republican-senator-mike-lee-sa​ys-democracy-isnt-objective-baffling-t​weet/

Oh wait, nevermind. They HAVE admitted it.
 
2020-10-30 7:54:45 PM  
..and this is how the violence starts...it could be a landslide win for biden, but the narrative is we cheated...it appeals to the lowest common denominator...it's the five finger death punch of politics.

But yeah...Obama was the divider!
 
2020-10-30 7:59:50 PM  
I support the Lt. Governor's candor, and clearly his willingness to use the full force of his office to make sure that elections stay safe and to pull prosecute to the fullest election of the law anyone caught meddling or engaging in voter suppression.
 
2020-10-30 7:59:55 PM  
There's going to be violence at the end of this. It's unavoidable. Neither side thinks the other can win without cheating so whichever side wins, the other will take up arms. One side is completely delusional but that's irrelevant here.
 
2020-10-30 8:06:55 PM  
Translation: Our vote suppression efforts have made it impossible for a Democrat to win legitimately.
 
2020-10-30 8:15:49 PM  

Aquapope: What kind of evidence is there that the Dems are systemically trying to steal any election?


As you already realize the GOP and it's suckass supporters don't need any evidence. They have alternative facts and that's all they need as proof.

There will come a day when the GOP says they don't have to follow Marxist laws. We're close right now but before it's over they will simply ignore laws they don't want to follow and do what ever the hell they want.
 
2020-10-30 8:17:08 PM  

Aquapope: I bet he actually believes that they've made it so difficult for poor and minority voters to vote, that election fraud really is the only way for Dems to win.  Not something anybody should brag about, though.


Yup.

Also love that he provided a nice Freudian slip: "We're gonna use COVID as an excuse to steal the election, and that's what they're trying to do everywhere," he added.
 
2020-10-30 8:17:11 PM  
2022, Dan

We're coming for you next
 
2020-10-30 8:21:59 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Next step is the "constitutional originalists" reminding us only white male landowners should have their votes counted.


Since I own multiple properties, in multiple states, how many votes do I get?
 
2020-10-30 8:22:38 PM  

draa: Aquapope: What kind of evidence is there that the Dems are systemically trying to steal any election?

As you already realize the GOP and it's suckass supporters don't need any evidence. They have alternative facts and that's all they need as proof.

There will come a day when the GOP says they don't have to follow Marxist laws. We're close right now but before it's over they will simply ignore laws they don't want to follow and do what ever the hell they want.


4 years of "ain't nothing going to happen".

We are already at the point that they ignore laws.
 
2020-10-30 8:33:08 PM  
"...we don't have to pay attention to any laws..."

Except maybe the laws of physics, when you're summarily executed for treason.
 
2020-10-30 8:35:44 PM  
Repub critical thinking: "let's start a civil war and get our ass kicked by the margin of millions represented by the difference of the popular vote."
 
2020-10-30 8:37:22 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: Aussie_As: Just saw a poll where supporters of both Repubs and Dems have a majority position that if their candidate loses, it's because the other side stole it. A clear majority of Farkers seem to be in this range too, but obviously we're a partisan crowd (and I'm not saying that's a bad thing of itself).

This is how democracy collapses, Americans. This is how empires crumble, fighting over the spoils of defeat.

Is America's age of dominance over?

Bluntly, yes.  America has been in decline for quite some time- Trump is more a symptom than a cause.  We had a good run after WWII since we were the only industrialized country left standing and we spent a lot in building up people both at home through the GI Bill, FHA mortgages and such and abroad with the Marshall plan.  (Domestic benefits not available to all citizens) We had shocks in the 1960s that we reacted to by improving education, building a better social safety net and starting down the path of actual civil rights.

That progress has been crumbling for decades, and even with Biden in office it's going to continue- the rot is just too deep.   We hate scientific expertise, our best paid and most coveted jobs do nothing but shuffle money around while creating nothing, and social media gives our enemies, foreign and domestic, easy access to brainwashing techniques no state has ever had before.  More than 40% of America is literally in thrall to a con man and believes any setback to him is the end of civilization

Meanwhile, the rest of the world is moving on.  China has 4x our population, virtually no checks on its power and understands the long game where nobody in America looks past the next quarter's earnings statement.

It was a good run.


Nicely written
 
2020-10-30 8:47:07 PM  
So Dan wants to charge me criminally for voting. Good luck with that, you failed restaurateur and AM radio shiat show host.
 
2020-10-30 8:49:28 PM  
See, Texas. THIS is why you never got a Space Shuttle for your museum.
 
2020-10-30 8:52:05 PM  

ZangTT: So Dan wants to charge me criminally for voting. Good luck with that, you failed restaurateur and AM radio shiat show host.


He's not just a shiat AM host, he's a shiat AM station owner
 
2020-10-30 8:52:16 PM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: See, Texas. THIS is why you never got a Space Shuttle for your museum.


But it was our goddamn orbiter! We designed it!

/Still very, very bitter. Especially since la and nyc got ones despite contributing nothing to the program (well other than tax dollars obviously, and we appreciate those for sure, but Houston contributes plenty of tax dollars too, we aren't alabama or idaho.)
 
2020-10-30 8:56:50 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: Bluntly, yes. America has been in decline for quite some time- Trump is more a symptom than a cause. We had a good run after WWII since we were the only industrialized country left standing and we spent a lot in building up people both at home through the GI Bill, FHA mortgages and such and abroad with the Marshall plan. (Domestic benefits not available to all citizens) We had shocks in the 1960s that we reacted to by improving education, building a better social safety net and starting down the path of actual civil rights.

That progress has been crumbling for decades, and even with Biden in office it's going to continue- the rot is just too deep. We hate scientific expertise, our best paid and most coveted jobs do nothing but shuffle money around while creating nothing, and social media gives our enemies, foreign and domestic, easy access to brainwashing techniques no state has ever had before. More than 40% of America is literally in thrall to a con man and believes any setback to him is the end of civilization


What? Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!...
It ain't over now, 'cause when the goin' gets tough, the tough get goin'. Who's with me? Let's go! Come on!

What the f--k happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. 'Ooh, we're afraid to go with you, Bluto, we might get in trouble.'
Well, just kiss my @ss from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...

Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these b@stards. Now, we could fight 'em with conventional weapons. That could take years and cost millions of lives. No, in this case, I think we have to go all out. I think this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.
We're just the guys to do it...LET'S DO IT!

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2020-10-30 9:06:00 PM  

Aussie_As: Just saw a poll where supporters of both Repubs and Dems have a majority position that if their candidate loses, it's because the other side stole it. A clear majority of Farkers seem to be in this range too, but obviously we're a partisan crowd (and I'm not saying that's a bad thing of itself).

This is how democracy collapses, Americans. This is how empires crumble, fighting over the spoils of defeat.

Is America's age of dominance over? It's up to you. Are you voting for a candidate with principles or a candidate with the best fundraising capacity? Sometimes they might be the same, very often it's a poor choice way to preselect your politicians, but that's where you are. And your international allies would like to know how this plays out for us, that's my agenda in making this point.

All the rest of us know is that our elections don't come down to the battle of the septugenarians. It's the battle between the older guy (older than my dad who's got Alzheimers and is in zero shape to be leading anybody) versus the younger 74 year old who's clearly in worse shape. Wow. That's not exactly winning. New Zealand just re-elected a woman in her 30's with a toddler as their PM by a massive margin, that's how the rest of the world is doing it.

/Good luck!


One side is clearly using every dirty trick in the book to steal the election. The Republicans are doing everything they can to hinder free and fair elections in this country(we have numerous examples) while accusing their political opponents of everything they themselves are guilty of. No, they don't have proof, just false accusations. I can't help that their brainwashed followers believe every lie they're told.

Truth is if anyone steals the election it WILL be the Republicans. The amount of voter suppression they're engaging in is reaching the level of treason at this point. Trump has made it very clear he will not respect the peaceful transfer of power. He will not accept a loss and he will do everything in his power to ensure victory even if it means cheating. We can see it happening right in front of our faces. He's said as much. Joked about serving another term, said he deserves a free term as a do over, said there'd be no transfer of power if the ballots went away, invited foreign interference, and called for violence and voter intimidation at the polls. He's running a nascent secret police and he's repeatedly called for his political opponents to be locked up.

You're goddamn right we're going to fight them over it. Because that's how you defend Democracy from tyrants.
 
2020-10-30 9:29:09 PM  
This Dan Patrick needs to go away so I can stop being really confused every time I think Keith Olbermann's former tag team partner said something stupid and racist.
 
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