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2020-10-30 12:03:26 PM  
101 votes:
Notice how any decisions to allow more ways to vote, count votes, extending registration deadlines are all clearly meant to apply across the board. Whether you are a Dem, a Trumpanzee, Independent or one of those morons throwing away your vote on a third party, these rules are meant to get you the same right to vote and your vote counted.

Isn't it funny how only one party has a problem with voting?
 
2020-10-30 11:54:21 AM  
98 votes:
There's a lot of things about this election that have been done this way for years that he's trying to convince people have never happened before.  They're going to do anything they can to win this election, even if it is by (continuing to) lie to the American people.
 
2020-10-30 12:33:18 PM  
50 votes:
They did not declare him winner in Arizona back in 2016 until 3 days after the election. He did not have a problem with it then.

He can fark right off.
 
2020-10-30 12:06:38 PM  
48 votes:
Trump promoting the fact that vote counting "ends" when talking heads on the TV first say that a race is "won" is peak "Trump speak".

I mean, if that was the case, Gore won Florida and the entire 2000s is fake!!!!
 
2020-10-30 12:28:37 PM  
29 votes:
The law requires the count to be kept open.  These are the allowances for service members and families voting from overseas.

Alabama allow +7 days post election to receive military absentee ballots postmarked by election day.
Alaska +15 days
Arizona ED Election day
Arkansas  +10
California +17
Colorado +8
Connecticut ED
Delaware ED
Florida  +10
Georgia +3
Hawaii ED
Idaho  ED
Illinois +14
Indiana +10
Iowa +6
Maine ED
Maryland +10
Massachusetts  +10
Michigan ED
Minnesota  ED
Missouri  +3
Mississippi  *7
Montana ED
Nebraska ED
Nevada +7
New Hampshire  ED
New Jersey ED
New Mexico ED
New York  +13
North Carolina  +9
North Dakota +6
Ohio +10
Oklahoma ED
Oregon ED
Pennsylvania +6
Rhode Island +7
South Carolina ED
South Dakota ED
Tennessee ED
Texas +6
Utah +13
Vermont  ED
Virginia +3
Washington ED
West Virginia  +6
Wisconsin ED
Wyoming ED
Wyoming

22 States require ballots be received by Election Day.
28 States allow some grace period for the delivery of ballots postmarked by election day.
source https://www.fvap.gov/guide
 
2020-10-30 12:33:18 PM  
19 votes:
Being post marked by election day is probably the most democratic solution i ever heard of. We need more of that.
 
2020-10-30 12:36:50 PM  
18 votes:
Keep in mind Trump's base are the same people who suddenly decided that wearing a mask chokes you to death despite masks being in common use for their entire lives.
 
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2020-10-30 12:36:14 PM  
18 votes:
It's saying a lot but this is one of the corrosive things I think Trump has said.  Elections aren't over until the votes are counted and it has been that way for over a thousand years.

We are going to have hick riots when at 12:01 metro areas are still working through the count.  Like they do EVERY ELECTION.  Trump can manipulate hicks with appeals to ignorance like Yo-Yo Ma can manipulate a cello.
 
2020-10-30 12:44:49 PM  
15 votes:

eKonk: Is it worth pointing out that the election does end on November 3rd, not just in NC but in every US State and territory?  Any ballot postmarked on, say, November 4th, is going to be invalidated.


Which isn't the issue. The GOP is trying to keep ballots postmarked Nov. 3rd from being counted if they arrive a few days later. Also they slowed the postal service so ballots arrive a few days later.
 
2020-10-30 12:35:29 PM  
14 votes:
Why do we let people reject reality and substitute their own?
 
2020-10-30 12:17:13 PM  
13 votes:
For the record, the election has never ended on November 3.


November 3rd is not a fixed election date Subby. It's the first Tuesday in November that follows the first Monday in October. So, it can be anywhere from Nov. 2nd to Nov. 8th.
 
2020-10-30 12:36:49 PM  
10 votes:
People fought and died in wars for the right to vote.

Deny the right to vote to the people and it's a declaration of war against them, and that's one of the rights the 2nd amendment was actually made for.

fark with it at your own peril.
 
2020-10-30 12:34:27 PM  
9 votes:

dletter: Trump promoting the fact that vote counting "ends" when talking heads on the TV first say that a race is "won" is peak "Trump speak".

I mean, if that was the case, Gore won Florida and the entire 2000s is fake!!!!


Man. Do-over


This time I'm not marrying.my now ex wife.
 
2020-10-30 1:11:18 PM  
8 votes:
If Biden is ahead on election night, you can bet your ass that Trump will be screaming for the counting to keep going and going.
 
2020-10-30 12:51:57 PM  
8 votes:

shoegaze99: He brings out the worst in me, because at this point I honestly just hope he has a stroke while on stage at a rally and spends the next 15 years drooling in a wheelchair, aware enough to know what happened to him but incapable of doing anything else but taking spoonfuls of pudding from a nurse.


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I can arrange that
 
2020-10-30 12:34:56 PM  
8 votes:
Why does Trump hate the military?
 
2020-10-30 12:55:25 PM  
7 votes:
I am a free-thinking rugged individualist whose opinion on this issue is entirely consistent with the right-wing propaganda in our billion-dollar corporate process, and in no way exacerbated by the emotional investment I have in the politicians who act as my lone outlet for control in an increasingly complicated world that I promoted through my enthusiastic support for economic growth.
 
2020-10-30 12:54:31 PM  
7 votes:
In New Jersey (which this election is almost entirely absentee ballot), Republicans were complaining that the votes would start being counted before election day.

So...

Republicans don't want votes collected before election day, they don't want them collected after election day.

If I didn't know better, I'd almost think the Republicans just don't want the votes to be counted at all.
 
2020-10-30 12:54:05 PM  
7 votes:

shoegaze99: He brings out the worst in me, because at this point I honestly just hope he has a stroke while on stage at a rally and spends the next 15 years drooling in a wheelchair, aware enough to know what happened to him but incapable of doing anything else but taking spoonfuls of pudding from a nurse.

Not even being hyperbolic.

I hope for that.


A gay, black, male nurse. With a heavy accent.

But I'm not a monster.  I wouldn't force that on him.

I'd ask for volunteers.
 
2020-10-30 12:45:16 PM  
7 votes:
This is a result of people failing to get a decent Civics class. The election has never ended on election, doubly so for a Presidential election.

First off, military votes are normally counted (as long as there is a valid postmark) up to a week (or sometimes longer!) after election day. Well, until this election because the Rethuglican Party hates the military and is demanding all absentee votes (even those with a valid postmark on or before) that arrive after election day are made invalid in several states.

Second, most states are counting through the night and into the next day. Then they need to double check vote counts. This usually takes a few days as well.

Third, the results need to certified by the proper people in the state. This also takes time.

Steps one through three take so long sometimes that they don't even typically have a certified result until late November or early December. Hence that's why:

Fourth, for Presidential elections the Electoral College meets in December to cast their ballots. Technically speaking, in many states, the electors are obliged to vote for the winner of the popular vote but there are no penalties if they choose to vote for someone else. There are some states now that have penalties for "faithless electors" but many still do not have any.

Fifth, and most importantly, counting all that paper takes time. The more people there are, the longer it takes. We're faster today, thanks to machinery, than ever before but it still takes weeks to accurately count any major election in any given state.

Trump is a moron and his followers are uneducated morons if they believe one word of his "Election night results are what count!" tweets. Of course we knew they were morons already or they wouldn't vote for Trump.
 
2020-10-30 12:34:32 PM  
7 votes:
I DO NOT KNOW HOW ELEACTAIONS WOARK!!
 
2020-10-30 12:49:16 PM  
6 votes:
He brings out the worst in me, because at this point I honestly just hope he has a stroke while on stage at a rally and spends the next 15 years drooling in a wheelchair, aware enough to know what happened to him but incapable of doing anything else but taking spoonfuls of pudding from a nurse.

Not even being hyperbolic.

I hope for that.

I hope for it because it's honestly the only real justice he will ever see. He might destroy our institutions and steal the election. There is a real danger of that, and no one is holding him accountable. Even if he loses, he's going to sow chaos and hate and violence, and he'll campaign continuously for 2024 starting Jan. 21. The idea that New York State will take him down and he'll go to prison is a pure pipe dream. And on and on and on and on.

He will never have to face the consequences of who he is and what he's done.

So let him go on stage, bust a vein, and spend his remaining years eating pudding. It's about the most realistic chance we have of the universe making things right.
 
2020-10-30 12:42:48 PM  
6 votes:
And even when it's REALLY called, it's not over. Ever. We'll be hearing about 2024 before the 2021 inauguration. Especially if Trump loses.
 
2020-10-30 12:42:05 PM  
6 votes:

Gubbo: Look. There will be a 30 second window of voting. It will not be announced. It will begin when Donald Trump casts his vote and end the moment after he casts his vote.

All legitimately received votes will be counted fairly and correctly.


You forgot to mention that the actual ballot will only be on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard.
 
2020-10-30 12:36:24 PM  
6 votes:
Can you imagine what will happen during that nine day period.

You'll do something racist and illegal again?
 
2020-10-30 12:48:58 PM  
5 votes:

zorkmcgork: Do the MAGA rubes know and understand that this a complete lie?


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the rubes don't, the complicit wealthy absolutely do
 
2020-10-30 11:55:47 AM  
5 votes:
Look. There will be a 30 second window of voting. It will not be announced. It will begin when Donald Trump casts his vote and end the moment after he casts his vote.

All legitimately received votes will be counted fairly and correctly.
 
2020-10-30 12:57:00 PM  
4 votes:
So... no votes after Election Day, and they're doing their best to discredit early voting and vote by mail. And they're destroying in-person voting on Election Day by closing precincts.

I wouldn't put it past them to try to cancel in person voting on Tuesday because of Covid.

Farking traitors to democracy.
 
2020-10-30 12:50:19 PM  
4 votes:
And yes, I am ashamed to think that way. It makes me uncomfortable. It's not the kind of person I want to be. I don't like feeling that way and am not proud of it.

But I'd be dishonest if I denied it.
 
2020-10-30 12:43:40 PM  
4 votes:
Bush was announced the winner three weeks later after several lawsuits filed by his campaign to continue to count absentee ballots, including those not postmarked, witnessed or signed before Election Day.
 
2020-10-30 12:40:07 PM  
4 votes:
Desperation
 
2020-10-30 12:37:37 PM  
4 votes:

optimistic_cynic: zorkmcgork: Do the MAGA rubes know and understand that this a complete lie?

Yes.


But they will still beat it like a dead Clydesdale
 
2020-10-30 12:58:39 PM  
3 votes:
The ironic thing is - he's going to take an epic ass beating on Nov. 3rd.  Then the law suits begin.  My guess is that the litigation will still be ongoing as he is forced to watch Biden's inauguration.  So basically, he will try to keep the election going for months and months after November 3rd.

I had no idea that a person could produce a tweet that didn't age well from the very second you posted it - but here we are.  Thank you 2020.
 
2020-10-30 12:54:51 PM  
3 votes:

d23: Trump can manipulate hicks with appeals to ignorance like Yo-Yo Ma can manipulate a cello.


Wow, great comparison! I've never heard of Yo-Yo Ma being referenced in such a way.

/bravo!
//   :)
 
2020-10-30 12:50:34 PM  
3 votes:
There are now a minimum of 3 votes on the Supreme Court who would vote to end the vote count whenever Trump says it should end, absolutely regardless of precedent, history, logic or basic common sense.  Two more are questionable.

Those two votes are the only ones that really matter.
 
2020-10-30 12:38:35 PM  
3 votes:
Whatever he wants to tell himself while he's packing up his binders full of blank paper.
 
2020-10-30 12:37:56 PM  
3 votes:
Has someone mentioned this to Kavanaugh?

I don't think he got the memo is my point here.
 
2020-10-30 12:36:22 PM  
3 votes:

zorkmcgork: Do the MAGA rubes know and understand that this a complete lie?


Yes.
 
2020-10-30 12:27:09 PM  
3 votes:

Badmoodman: Badmoodman: Ugh, I SCOTUS on my mind, not October but November.


LOL, I think I HAD a stroke.


Be sure to wash your hands afterwards, and be careful not to go blind.
 
2020-10-30 2:00:28 PM  
2 votes:
He's saying doing things the way they've always been done is "bad for our country"

Seems like it's only bad for him.
 
2020-10-30 1:48:04 PM  
2 votes:

ParallelUniverseParking: chawco: dletter: Trump promoting the fact that vote counting "ends" when talking heads on the TV first say that a race is "won" is peak "Trump speak".

I mean, if that was the case, Gore won Florida and the entire 2000s is fake!!!!

Man. Do-over


This time I'm not marrying.my now ex wife.

*raises hand* I have made a couple of  questionable decisions myself. Also I'd love to see how a Gore administration would have handled 9/11.  I'm in! Let's meet at the Large Hadron Collider as soon as we can travel again.


"President Gore!  There's someone claiming to be a time traveller or parallel universe traverser or something shouting about 9/11 and wondering how you handled it!  Do you have any idea what he's talking about?"

"Do you mean 7/11?  Why is 9/11 so important to him?  See if you can get some details."

"Mr. President, have you ever heard of someone named, 'Osama Bin Laden'?"

"Oh, that Saudi radical?  I recall something in one of my Daily Briefings.  The CIA bankrupted him and turned over his network to InterPol.  If he thinks that led to a problem, him write it up... but right now, I have to get to the ribbon cutting ceremony at the new fusion plant in California.  Make sure Ford Flying EV 1 is ready for me in 15."
 
2020-10-30 1:03:06 PM  
2 votes:
Ok, how long before this whiney biatch screams for a recount when it's clear Biden's beating him so badly he alternates between an Eastern European accent and telling "Daddy stop hitting me!"
 
2020-10-30 12:55:45 PM  
2 votes:

eKonk: Is it worth pointing out that the election does end on November 3rd, not just in NC but in every US State and territory?  Any ballot postmarked on, say, November 4th, is going to be invalidated.


The ELECTION ends at the end of Election Day, yes,

The count does not, and it's the count he's talking about here, not the election itself. The ballots in question are ballots that would have been cast on or before Election Day. At issue are whether or not they should be counted.

And they should be. They were cast on or before Election Day. They are valid ballots.

The count is never finished and certified on Election Day. We may think it is because television networks usually call the election that night, but the actual count takes some time to finish and certify.

Since Donald Trump only knows what he sees on TV, he doesn't understand this.

Bottom line is, this isn't about allowing people to vote after Election Day, it's about counting votes that were cast BEFORE Election Day but that weren't received until after thanks to the post office.
 
2020-10-30 12:55:17 PM  
2 votes:

shoegaze99: And yes, I am ashamed to think that way. It makes me uncomfortable. It's not the kind of person I want to be. I don't like feeling that way and am not proud of it.

But I'd be dishonest if I denied it.


If it makes you feel any better, I have thought the same thing.
 
2020-10-30 12:55:16 PM  
2 votes:
Democrats are ahead in mail-in voting and early voting.

dumpy the redhat asshole there has convinced himself that on election day, a tidal wave of concealed trump voters will appear like magic and descend on the polls to somehow cast more votes in a single day than were cast by all the other voters in all the days preceding it.

This will, he believes, put him into the lead, and he will then declare himself the winner.

He's counting on his rigged supreme court to end it for him there, stopping all counting at that point, so that no more votes can arrive to take his win away.

I'm hoping that the historic number of votes which have been cast so far will kill that plan stone dead the moment the first results start rolling in.
 
2020-10-30 12:45:07 PM  
2 votes:

eKonk: Is it worth pointing out that the election does end on November 3rd, not just in NC but in every US State and territory?  Any ballot postmarked on, say, November 4th, is going to be invalidated.


Not really. These chucklefarks want to invalidate all ballots that are received after the 3d, no matter when they're postmarked.
 
2020-10-30 12:44:40 PM  
2 votes:
Who would have thought that a man whose highest civic education comprised of appearances on WWE and running businesses into the ground would have a made-for-TV understanding of the electoral process?
 
2020-10-30 11:54:56 AM  
2 votes:
It's amazing. Youd' think he would want all the votes from shy Trump voters to count.
 
2020-10-30 5:09:11 PM  
1 vote:
The 2000 election was called (wrongly) after 36 DAYS.
 
2020-10-30 3:16:38 PM  
1 vote:

bloobeary: Democrats are ahead in mail-in voting and early voting.

dumpy the redhat asshole there has convinced himself that on election day, a tidal wave of concealed trump voters will appear like magic and descend on the polls to somehow cast more votes in a single day than were cast by all the other voters in all the days preceding it.

This will, he believes, put him into the lead, and he will then declare himself the winner.

He's counting on his rigged supreme court to end it for him there, stopping all counting at that point, so that no more votes can arrive to take his win away.

I'm hoping that the historic number of votes which have been cast so far will kill that plan stone dead the moment the first results start rolling in.


Do you realize that "Dumpy the Red Hat Asshole" scans identically to "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer"?

Get to work on the lyrics, folks!  Do you think we could Weird Al to cut a video?
 
2020-10-30 2:33:13 PM  
1 vote:
It is going to be different this year because there are so many more mail in ballots. Usually they can say "Trump has 250,000 votes and Clinton has 200,000 votes. There are only 20,000 absentee ballots so we can call it for Trump."  This year it's much more likely that the number of ballots to be processed Is greater than the Election Day Marvin.
 
2020-10-30 1:52:50 PM  
1 vote:
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2020-10-30 1:40:37 PM  
1 vote:
According to the US Code (3 U.S.C. §7) the Monday after the second Wednesday in December of presidential election years is when the Electoral College votes which falls on Dec 14th 2020.

One could argue that they can legally keep counting until Dec 13th.
 
2020-10-30 1:32:33 PM  
1 vote:

BeansNfranks: Being post marked by election day is probably the most democratic solution i ever heard of. We need more of that.


Especially when the admin has worked overtime to hobble the USPS so delivery of ballots is delayed. Despicable behavior for him to then turn around and say, "The vote count stops when I say it does, damn the law!"
 
2020-10-30 1:30:47 PM  
1 vote:

RussianPotato: CSB.  Too bad the headline is meaningless.  We've always had a concession on the night of the election or (in the case of Salty Hillary) the very next day.


No we haven't.
 
2020-10-30 1:28:53 PM  
1 vote:
So the official GOP position is that we can't even begin to count any ballots that arrive before election day, but we also can't continue to count any ballots once election day is over.

What the fark is this shiat?  We should be both tabulating absentee ballots as they arrive and counting all valid ballots until the counting is finished.
 
2020-10-30 1:13:53 PM  
1 vote:

Mikey1969: shoegaze99: Bottom line is, this isn't about allowing people to vote after Election Day, it's about counting votes that were cast BEFORE Election Day but that weren't received until after thanks to the post office.

Hell, in 2016, they didn't get certified until Jan 6.


Yep. Some people might remember that there was a shift in the electoral votes several weeks after the election. And there were 7 faithless electors, 2 pledged to Trump and 5 pledged to Clinton, who voted for someone else. That's something we couldn't have known would happen on Election Day.
 
2020-10-30 1:12:30 PM  
1 vote:
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2020-10-30 1:06:59 PM  
1 vote:

shoegaze99: eKonk: Is it worth pointing out that the election does end on November 3rd, not just in NC but in every US State and territory?  Any ballot postmarked on, say, November 4th, is going to be invalidated.

The ELECTION ends at the end of Election Day, yes,

The count does not, and it's the count he's talking about here, not the election itself. The ballots in question are ballots that would have been cast on or before Election Day. At issue are whether or not they should be counted.

And they should be. They were cast on or before Election Day. They are valid ballots.

The count is never finished and certified on Election Day. We may think it is because television networks usually call the election that night, but the actual count takes some time to finish and certify.

Since Donald Trump only knows what he sees on TV, he doesn't understand this.

Bottom line is, this isn't about allowing people to vote after Election Day, it's about counting votes that were cast BEFORE Election Day but that weren't received until after thanks to the post office.


Hell, in 2016, they didn't get certified until Jan 6.
 
2020-10-30 1:05:23 PM  
1 vote:

Brian The Fist: The ironic thing is - he's going to take an epic ass beating on Nov. 3rd.  Then the law suits begin.  My guess is that the litigation will still be ongoing as he is forced to watch Biden's inauguration.  So basically, he will try to keep the election going for months and months after November 3rd.


This is fair take.  Call it gaslighting or whatever you want, but this is an administration that has spent four years trying to push their alternate view of reality on the country and the world.  That isn't going to just stop next Tuesday.
 
2020-10-30 1:02:37 PM  
1 vote:

Brian The Fist: he will try to keep the election going for months and months after November 3rd.


Yup, this right here. Here's his twaddle, translated for accuracy:

The Election should END on November 3 unless I lose, in which case the courts should take as long as possible to rig a win for me.
 
2020-10-30 1:00:38 PM  
1 vote:
I love how the election is supposed to start and end on 11/3, voting in person only, requiring ID...

Assuming everyone has the day off, is in their home area, is motile... in California for example, 40 million people are supposed to vote in 1 day? During a pandemic? How many thousands of polling places would that require?
That crush is supposed to be more reliable and secure than having a ballot mailed to you to fill out and drop off in secure box?

The insanity of the republican wet dream is more than transparent, and it should be grounds for a 72 hour mental health hold.
 
d23 [OhFark]
2020-10-30 1:00:23 PM  
1 vote:

shoegaze99: Bottom line is, this isn't about allowing people to vote after Election Day, it's about counting votes that were cast BEFORE Election Day but that weren't received until after thanks to the post office.


Right.  But we will have trouble because of the direct appeal to ignorance.

Joe Sixpack here in Indiana thinks it's over on Tuesday at 11:00pm, doesn't know there is a certification process, and he is a Trump cultist.  When Trump says "they've had to count past the next day" these idiots believe him.
 
2020-10-30 12:50:50 PM  
1 vote:

wademh: The law requires the count to be kept open.  These are the allowances for service members and families voting from overseas.

Alabama allow +7 days post election to receive military absentee ballots postmarked by election day.
Alaska +15 days
Arizona ED Election day
Arkansas  +10
California +17
Colorado +8
Connecticut ED
Delaware ED
Florida  +10
Georgia +3
Hawaii ED
Idaho  ED
Illinois +14
Indiana +10
Iowa +6
Maine ED
Maryland +10
Massachusetts  +10
Michigan ED
Minnesota  ED
Missouri  +3
Mississippi  *7
Montana ED
Nebraska ED
Nevada +7
New Hampshire  ED
New Jersey ED
New Mexico ED
New York  +13
North Carolina  +9
North Dakota +6
Ohio +10
Oklahoma ED
Oregon ED
Pennsylvania +6
Rhode Island +7
South Carolina ED
South Dakota ED
Tennessee ED
Texas +6
Utah +13
Vermont  ED
Virginia +3
Washington ED
West Virginia  +6
Wisconsin ED
Wyoming ED
Wyoming

22 States require ballots be received by Election Day.
28 States allow some grace period for the delivery of ballots postmarked by election day.
source https://www.fvap.gov/guide


Washington's deadline isn't really election day. We're an all vote-by-mail state and the rule is that all ballots must be postmarked by election day. We never have a complete count for at least a few days.
 
2020-10-30 12:43:26 PM  
1 vote:

quatchi: Has someone mentioned this to Kavanaugh?

I don't think he got the memo is my point here.


"The state of Vermont has not changed their voting rules, requiring the Secretary of State to certify a winner at 8:00:01 PM on election day, therefore all other states must follow suit"
 
d23 [OhFark]
2020-10-30 12:42:19 PM  
1 vote:

Devolving_Spud: I thought it didn't count until the Electoral College delegates actually cast their votes?  Remember how in 2016 we hung on that little bit of hope that a few extra delegates would vote for that uninspiring buttery males lady?

//I wonder how many delegates are now on the Koch payroll in 2020


Technically Trump is talking about each individual election of EC electors.

He isn't smart enough to know that but that is what he is doing.
 
2020-10-30 12:35:41 PM  
1 vote:
Do the MAGA rubes know and understand that this a complete lie?
 
2020-10-30 12:28:21 PM  
1 vote:
Hopefully I will be out of this farking voting line by then
 
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