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(The New York Times)   Donald Trump has cancelled his election night celebration at his hotel in Washington and will instead spend it quietly at the White House pushing all the furniture against the doors and handcuffing himself to the staircase   (nytimes.com) divider line
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2020-10-30 8:56:33 AM  
81 votes:
It's good that his handlers have finally gotten through. Now if they'd just leave a pistol on the nightstand we could all get back to trying to dig ourselves out of this mess.
 
2020-10-30 7:55:44 AM  
63 votes:
This is great news. The last thing Trump wants is the cameras on as he loses and he now knows he's going to lose.
 
2020-10-30 8:00:03 AM  
59 votes:
This asshole would not cancel his kids execution if he thought it would get him good exposure and adulation. He knows it's going to be a shiatstorm and he can't do anything about it.

This will be most enjoyable to watch unfold. I can't wait to see the non-concession tweet.
 
2020-10-30 8:00:54 AM  
49 votes:
It's like when you play Risk and you know you're about to lose so you hunker down in Australia and just wait for the end.
 
2020-10-30 9:08:39 AM  
36 votes:
You know who else had a bunker....
 
2020-10-30 9:13:00 AM  
34 votes:
The reason why Presidents have used off-site venues is because, until Trump, they did not use the White House as a political prop.

It's a residence and an office, not a stage for campaigning.
 
2020-10-30 9:14:36 AM  
33 votes:
This is actually REALLY big news, assuming it's really true.

Because it means he knows he is going to lose in such a fashion that a "ra ra" show at the White House would prove to be embarrassing.

This is the best sign we've seen so far that he might not be able to pull off a steal.
 
2020-10-30 9:18:15 AM  
24 votes:
Hahahaha.

He had been fundraising from big donors on the idea that one name would be drawn and they and a guest would be flown to DC, put up at no cost at the hotel, and given VIP access for the night.

Yeah, that ain't gonna happen. So, he grifted all you stupid mothefarkers one last time before he leaves office.

Fuggin' morans.
 
2020-10-30 9:26:27 AM  
23 votes:

CanisNoir: He's playing you, again.


This is hilarious. He played YOU. we never believed trump. Trump supporters believed Trumps lies is them being an idiot not everyone  else who didn't buy his BS.

I have seem people do this often "haha libs trump lies what are you going to do about it?"

He is lying to YOU. Not us.  We know he is a crook and liar. So you supporting him is him conning you. Not us.
 
2020-10-30 8:46:07 AM  
23 votes:

shastacola: This is great news. The last thing Trump wants is the cameras on as he loses and he now knows he's going to lose.


That's exactly what this is.  If it's held in the hotel, there's going to be several cell phone cameras recording him at any given moment as returns come in.  In the White House, they can prevent that.
 
2020-10-30 9:15:28 AM  
22 votes:

CanisNoir: He's playing you, again.


We're still voting.
 
2020-10-30 9:09:27 AM  
19 votes:
FTA:

"Mr. Trump's approach to politics has always been to treat it as something of a mystical proposition, governed by otherworldly forces in a world in which things generally work out in his favor. The voting results after a campaign in which Mr. Trump has been judged harshly by voters for his performance during the coronavirus pandemic could tell him a very different story."

I was gonna say Let's get Will Wheaton to narrate that audiobook, but even better -- get Barack Obama to do it.
 
2020-10-30 7:47:03 AM  
19 votes:
HaHa
 
2020-10-30 9:14:29 AM  
17 votes:

NeoCortex42: shastacola: This is great news. The last thing Trump wants is the cameras on as he loses and he now knows he's going to lose.

That's exactly what this is.  If it's held in the hotel, there's going to be several cell phone cameras recording him at any given moment as returns come in.  In the White House, they can prevent that.


Trump has probably been given the message that if he wants to contest the election results, it's on his dime.  The way Barrett got rammed through pre-election was Moscow Mitch's way of saying Trump is done.  And I think the people who really pay to elect a President are fine with Biden and do not want the absolute chaos necessary to overturn the election and hand it over to Trump.
 
2020-10-30 9:10:28 AM  
15 votes:
It was unclear why the plans had changed. But the prospect of the president appearing on the night of the election at the hotel was certain to reinforce concerns about Mr. Trump mingling the office with his business.

It would also reinforce questions about whether the hotel would be in violation of Washington coronavirus restrictions limiting gatherings to 50 people. And a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race.


So what's the real reason? These are all too sensible and exactly what a responsible person would do, so we know they aren't what is guiding Trump's decision.

He believes he's going to lose and as humiliating as that would be, the only way to make it worse is to plan a big party for himself where nobody will bother showing up.

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2020-10-30 9:19:58 AM  
14 votes:

thorpe: There are 2 reasons for this, contained in the same paragraph.

" It would also reinforce questions about whether the hotel would be in violation of Washington coronavirus restrictions limiting gatherings to 50 people. And a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race. "


The illegal nature is not an issue.  Full stop

The cash crunch is a good reason, but if he were winning and knew he was, he would find no shortage of people willing to foot this bill

It is interesting to say the least

Oh VOTE MOTHERFARKERS
 
2020-10-30 9:09:43 AM  
13 votes:
Wasn't the gathering illegally large anyway? If he does it in the WH, then DC govt can't shut it down.
 
2020-10-30 9:34:59 AM  
11 votes:

Error 482: "a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race"

This. This is the only reason it's being cancelled. Trump has shown repeatedly he does not care about pandemic restrictions or safety. He is too delusional to admit that he might lose. But he can't grift any money from it, and that's something that he would find both believable and important.


If Donald Trump thought that all cameras would be on him in his moment of glory he would not give a shiat about the money grift, he craves attention more than money.
 
2020-10-30 9:33:21 AM  
11 votes:
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2020-10-30 9:11:25 AM  
11 votes:
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2020-10-30 9:20:00 AM  
9 votes:

Katie98_KT: shastacola: Katie98_KT: Wasn't the gathering illegally large anyway? If he does it in the WH, then DC govt can't shut it down.

There isn't going to be a large gathering at the WHite House though.

as someone posted after me - the DC restrictions are to 50 people. I'm assuming the White House holds more than 50 people.


Fun fact: DC laws end at the threshold of Federal property.
 
2020-10-30 9:19:54 AM  
9 votes:

bostonguy: It's like when you play Risk and you know you're about to lose so you hunker down in Australia and just wait for the end.


I remember that very scenario 58 years ago when my big Brother had conquered the entire globe except for my 5 little blue blocks on Australia or Indonesia or Papua New Guinea. We would roll and roll the dice and my 7 year old self would keep coming up winning to live and fight one more day. Losing was inevitable, but I still remember the joy of watching my despotic brother meltdown as the dice clearly favored me.

Even my brothers friends started viewing me as some kind of hero.
 
2020-10-30 10:09:29 AM  
8 votes:
It's entirely possible that on election night he won't be able to get from the White House to the Trump International, even though it's only 3.5 blocks to cover outside the White House security perimeter.  DC MPD sent a notice to D.C. businesses last night warning of potential street closures on basically every street within a six block radius around the White House.  It's going to be a shiat show down there just from registered demonstrations, before you get into people randomly taking to the streets.

He's sure as hell going to be going into full-on bunker mode. The Trump International doesn't have a helipad, either, so the only way he'd be able to make the trip is by motorcade.  My guess is the secret service told him they couldn't assure his safety off the White House grounds.  My additional guess is that Marine One is going to be fueled, ready, and parked on the south lawn all evening because reasons.
 
2020-10-30 9:48:48 AM  
8 votes:
Two words: Budd Dwyer
 
2020-10-30 9:22:05 AM  
8 votes:
Be ready to issue a "No-fly order" whenever the election gets called. Don't want him leaving the country that he loves so much.
 
2020-10-30 9:10:36 AM  
8 votes:
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2020-10-30 10:13:11 AM  
7 votes:

A Cave Geek: I wonder how fast the money will dry up for him after he leaves office.  How fast will the 'free ride' come to an end?  How will he deal with his sudden poverty?  How epic will the GOP melt-down be?


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2020-10-30 10:07:25 AM  
7 votes:

shastacola: This is great news. The last thing Trump wants is the cameras on as he loses and he now knows he's going to lose.


This is surprising to me- and good news as well. One of the few gambits he has to try to remain in power despite the election is in simply declaring victory at some point on election night. A big crowd of adoring fans cheering for his victory can do a lot to promote that narrative among his supporters to inoculate them from the final results. "They are stealing the election from us!" becomes both rallying cry and justification as they proceed to try to steal the election from us.
 
2020-10-30 9:54:24 AM  
7 votes:
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Don't count em till they hatch
 
2020-10-30 9:41:51 AM  
7 votes:

Opacity: I may be the constant Trump cynic, but I have a suspicion that what's really going on is he's going to take a multi-hour nap at the White House (instead of in a room/suite at his hotel) until whatever time comes that he has to give a speech. Instead of taking an escalator down to the event, he'll have the secret service chauffeur him over, either give his congratulatory "4 more years" (ugh, Canada save us all) speech, or his "it isn't over, we're contesting CA, FL, PA, TX, and VT all the way to the court above the supreme court!" speech.


Maybe I'm being too much of an optimist, but I don't think his challenges are A. Going to help him and B. Are going flip the states needed to turn out differently.

Not to mention (and I've never heard anyone even bring this up) most every state has a margin in which a recount request can even be made.

For example, if Biden wins a state by a full point, chances are that state is not going to even be allowed, by state law, to be challenged.
 
2020-10-30 9:32:11 AM  
7 votes:
"a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race"

This. This is the only reason it's being cancelled. Trump has shown repeatedly he does not care about pandemic restrictions or safety. He is too delusional to admit that he might lose. But he can't grift any money from it, and that's something that he would find both believable and important.
 
2020-10-30 9:24:02 AM  
7 votes:

Farkin_Crazy: Hahahaha.

He had been fundraising from big donors on the idea that one name would be drawn and they and a guest would be flown to DC, put up at no cost at the hotel, and given VIP access for the night.

Yeah, that ain't gonna happen. So, he grifted all you stupid mothefarkers one last time before he leaves office.

Fuggin' morans.


I've gotten about 50 of those emails in just the last few days. "Emergency fundraising opportunity" and such.
Haven't had the heart to tell them that if they're relying on funds to win the election after half the votes are in, they're shiat outta luck.
And if they're counting on me to bail them out, they've a better shot at getting paid by sending an invoice to the Trump Organization.
 
2020-10-30 10:43:50 AM  
6 votes:

A Cave Geek: doctorguilty: This would be the only time I'd pay good money to see Dolt45 do anything.
And by "good money" I mean $5.
Yeah, I'd pay five dollars to see him cry like a girl.

Altimus Prime: A Cave Geek: I wonder how fast the money will dry up for him after he leaves office.  How fast will the 'free ride' come to an end?  How will he deal with his sudden poverty?  How epic will the GOP melt-down be?

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That picture should be Trump's official presidential portrait.
 
2020-10-30 10:10:55 AM  
6 votes:
I wonder how fast the money will dry up for him after he leaves office.  How fast will the 'free ride' come to an end?  How will he deal with his sudden poverty?  How epic will the GOP melt-down be?
 
2020-10-30 9:58:12 AM  
6 votes:

UNC_Samurai: gunga galunga: CanisNoir: He's playing you, again.

We're still voting.

Wow, someone dusted off THAT account?


It's been showing up from time to time recently. Now I'm just waiting for GatoNegro to reappear.
 
2020-10-30 9:36:09 AM  
6 votes:

shastacola: Error 482: "a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race"

This. This is the only reason it's being cancelled. Trump has shown repeatedly he does not care about pandemic restrictions or safety. He is too delusional to admit that he might lose. But he can't grift any money from it, and that's something that he would find both believable and important.

If Donald Trump thought that all cameras would be on him in his moment of glory he would not give a shiat about the money grift, he craves attention more than money.


Agreed.  He'd find some way for the Fed. Gov't to pay for it if he thought he was going to win.
 
2020-10-30 9:10:46 AM  
6 votes:
Too cheap to pay for other people to have a good time when he's going to lose.
 
2020-10-30 9:08:37 AM  
6 votes:
The white house is more secure for when the shiatstorm happens...
 
2020-10-30 10:18:30 AM  
5 votes:

doctorguilty: This would be the only time I'd pay good money to see Dolt45 do anything.
And by "good money" I mean $5.
Yeah, I'd pay five dollars to see him cry like a girl.


Altimus Prime: A Cave Geek: I wonder how fast the money will dry up for him after he leaves office.  How fast will the 'free ride' come to an end?  How will he deal with his sudden poverty?  How epic will the GOP melt-down be?

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2020-10-30 10:01:43 AM  
5 votes:
AND, Trump will no doubt be Googling "countries with no extradition treaty with the United States".

Wait'll Donnie finds out that aside from Russia & Saudi Arabia (a choice between Polonium or bonesaws for him), the rest of the places on the map are "shiathole countries".
 
2020-10-30 9:18:57 AM  
5 votes:

thorpe: There are 2 reasons for this, contained in the same paragraph.

" It would also reinforce questions about whether the hotel would be in violation of Washington coronavirus restrictions limiting gatherings to 50 people. And a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race. "


Also if DC decided to yank the hotel's liquor license (which they could), it'd be a death knell for the bar and high priced sushi restaurant there.  Especially since bookings at the hotel are already down.  If you don't have a liquor license in this town you can't just print money.
 
2020-10-30 10:26:19 AM  
4 votes:

Farkin_Crazy: For example, if Biden wins a state by a full point, chances are that state is not going to even be allowed, by state law, to be challenged.


"Law" doesn't mean anything to trump's handlers. The challenges will occur, and will drag out for at least a month, more likely through the end of the year. Most will be decided by Supreme courts, which takes time.

If there's any honesty left in those courts, it won't change any outcomes, but I'm not convinced that's the case. Brace yourself for a long, drawn out and vitriolic process with decisions made on the basis of politics, not justice, and cross your fingers that trump isn't handed enough of those victories to "win".

If it's not an absolute, uncontestable landslide, this will be the path. And if it is, expect violence since trump will have nothing to lose, so he'll play that as definitive proof the election was stolen and set fire to everything on his way out, knowing the chaos will buy him time.
 
2020-10-30 10:25:25 AM  
4 votes:

Farkin_Crazy: SFSailor: Farkin_Crazy: Yeah, that ain't gonna happen. So, he grifted all you stupid mothefarkers one last time before he leaves office.

Fuggin' morans.

"Last time"?

This is Fark, so I ~should~ throw your "fuggin morans" back at you, but it's Friday, and we're all burned out, so instead I'll go with: I *wish* I had your optimism that we'd never here from him again.

And he's in office until January, even if he does accept defeat and want to run away.  He's far, FAR too much of a coward to take the honorable exit, and too big a narcissist to resign and disappear into humble silence.

But I would *love* to be proven wrong. We'll see. Gonna be a farker up week. Buckle up, y'all.

Donor money, or at least vast sums of it, won't flow to him if he loses next week.


You are crazy, but it's sad that optimism and faith in rational behavior is crazy these days.

He'll be selling MAGA 2024 shiat in January.  And the "we were robbed! Help me stand up to the  Demoncrats! Just $20 gets you a chance to win a round of golf...." emails will be flying before the last court election rulings have been spat out of the printer.  As much as the t(R)eason party may want to memoryhole him and move on, he's too stupid and narcissistic to shut the fark up and to cheap to leave even the last MAGAt's last penny on the table.

But, man, I hope you're right.
 
2020-10-30 10:21:20 AM  
4 votes:

SFSailor: Altimus Prime: The Trump International doesn't have a helipad,

It's the dumbest, most irrelevant example on the list the size of a phone book, but it stood out to me:  What the hell kinda billionaire who is famous for his helicopter entrances and personal jet doesn't have a helicopter pad on his building?

I mean, FFS, they're so common that fancy neighborhoods on both coasts have wound up having fights about banning the things.

Look at him! Look at him and laugh!

(But the rest of your post is spot on.  Though I'm still thinking he'll actually manufacture a reason to be in Mar A Lago before Tuesday, and never leave again.)


It's a historic building, you can't modify it in that way, and even if you could, there's nowhere to put it.  The bell tower isn't going to support it.
 
2020-10-30 10:13:26 AM  
4 votes:

Farkin_Crazy: Yeah, that ain't gonna happen. So, he grifted all you stupid mothefarkers one last time before he leaves office.

Fuggin' morans.


"Last time"?

This is Fark, so I ~should~ throw your "fuggin morans" back at you, but it's Friday, and we're all burned out, so instead I'll go with: I *wish* I had your optimism that we'd never here from him again.

And he's in office until January, even if he does accept defeat and want to run away.  He's far, FAR too much of a coward to take the honorable exit, and too big a narcissist to resign and disappear into humble silence.

But I would *love* to be proven wrong. We'll see. Gonna be a farker up week. Buckle up, y'all.
 
2020-10-30 10:03:02 AM  
4 votes:

Norwegian Squirrel: Two words: Budd Dwyer


From your lips to god's ears.
 
2020-10-30 9:52:22 AM  
4 votes:
Because he knows he's going to lose, but will refuse to give a concession speech.
 
2020-10-30 9:31:37 AM  
4 votes:

RyogaM: thorpe: There are 2 reasons for this, contained in the same paragraph.

" It would also reinforce questions about whether the hotel would be in violation of Washington coronavirus restrictions limiting gatherings to 50 people. And a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race. "

He never cared before, why would he start caring now?


Because D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser doesn't back down from Trump.

She ain't go no time for that.
 
2020-10-30 9:27:56 AM  
4 votes:

thorpe: There are 2 reasons for this, contained in the same paragraph.

" It would also reinforce questions about whether the hotel would be in violation of Washington coronavirus restrictions limiting gatherings to 50 people. And a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race. "


He never cared before, why would he start caring now?
 
2020-10-30 9:26:15 AM  
4 votes:

CanisNoir: He's playing you, again.


You think, despite all creditable and reasonable evidence to the contrary, that Trump thinks he's going to win the election?  Do you think he's also detached from reality enough to think he's going to win the popular vote, too?

I was going to disagree with you, but you've convinced me: he really is that delusional.
 
2020-10-30 10:15:22 AM  
3 votes:
This would be the only time I'd pay good money to see Dolt45 do anything.
And by "good money" I mean $5.
Yeah, I'd pay five dollars to see him cry like a girl.
 
2020-10-30 10:14:50 AM  
3 votes:

SFSailor: Farkin_Crazy: Yeah, that ain't gonna happen. So, he grifted all you stupid mothefarkers one last time before he leaves office.

Fuggin' morans.

"Last time"?

This is Fark, so I ~should~ throw your "fuggin morans" back at you, but it's Friday, and we're all burned out, so instead I'll go with: I *wish* I had your optimism that we'd never here from him again.

And he's in office until January, even if he does accept defeat and want to run away.  He's far, FAR too much of a coward to take the honorable exit, and too big a narcissist to resign and disappear into humble silence.

But I would *love* to be proven wrong. We'll see. Gonna be a farker up week. Buckle up, y'all.


Donor money, or at least vast sums of it, won't flow to him if he loses next week.
 
2020-10-30 10:14:16 AM  
3 votes:
Altimus Prime:

He's sure as hell going to be going into full-on bunker mode. The Trump International doesn't have a helipad, either, so the only way he'd be able to make the trip is by motorcade.  My guess is the secret service told him they couldn't assure his safety off the White House grounds.  My additional guess is that Marine One is going to be fueled, ready, and parked on the south lawn all evening because reasons.

IMHO, if he wanted to get from point A to point B on election night he'll order the Secret Service to get him there, no matter the cost.  SEE: The church and bible photo op.
 
2020-10-30 9:55:31 AM  
3 votes:

aedude01: Katie98_KT: shastacola: Katie98_KT: Wasn't the gathering illegally large anyway? If he does it in the WH, then DC govt can't shut it down.

There isn't going to be a large gathering at the WHite House though.

as someone posted after me - the DC restrictions are to 50 people. I'm assuming the White House holds more than 50 people.

The WH is federal land so it's outside of DC jurisdiction.


Yes, that's exactly what I said. If he holds it in the hotel, he has to keep it to 50 people. If he does it at the white house, he isn't restricted to 50 people. Because DC govt can't shut it down.
 
2020-10-30 9:33:30 AM  
3 votes:
"For the last several days, Mr. Trump, who is deeply superstitious, has tried to recreate as many of the 2016 election conditions around himself as possible."

And if I eat three hamberders in a row without the lettuce falling out, I will win all 50 states and Stormy Daniels will come to her senses and beg for more mushroom...
 
2020-10-30 9:25:49 AM  
3 votes:
He'll be down in his bunker.
 
2020-10-30 9:18:15 AM  
3 votes:

gunga galunga: CanisNoir: He's playing you, again.

We're still voting.


Wow, someone dusted off THAT account?
 
2020-10-30 9:17:02 AM  
3 votes:
This could be a good sign or it could be Trump treating the White House like it's his anyway and simply moving the party there.
 
2020-10-30 9:14:30 AM  
3 votes:
Or it's to be in the WH so he can call the military against the "insurrection" of someone beating him.
 
2020-10-30 9:13:30 AM  
3 votes:
There are 2 reasons for this, contained in the same paragraph.

" It would also reinforce questions about whether the hotel would be in violation of Washington coronavirus restrictions limiting gatherings to 50 people. And a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race. "
 
2020-10-30 11:29:37 AM  
2 votes:

OtherLittleGuy: JerkStore: It was unclear why the plans had changed. But the prospect of the president appearing on the night of the election at the hotel was certain to reinforce concerns about Mr. Trump mingling the office with his business.

It would also reinforce questions about whether the hotel would be in violation of Washington coronavirus restrictions limiting gatherings to 50 people. And a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race.

So what's the real reason? These are all too sensible and exactly what a responsible person would do, so we know they aren't what is guiding Trump's decision.

He believes he's going to lose and as humiliating as that would be, the only way to make it worse is to plan a big party for himself where nobody will bother showing up.

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President "I'll Do What I Want Because" would have packed the hotel to the hilt. He loves a spectacle to the point he made the White House his personal reelection backdrop, especially with the Fourth Celebration.

There's the let's-not-suck-each-other-dicks realization that he can't steal enough of this election to make a difference.


I really am holding on to the hope that SO many people have heard about the danger of him stealing the election, that it caused them to come out and vote.

And it seems that for the first time since 2016, that hope is justified.

Because the only way I'm wrong about that would be if all of those millions of people that have voted already, voted for Trump.
 
2020-10-30 11:08:56 AM  
2 votes:

Katie98_KT: shastacola: Katie98_KT: Wasn't the gathering illegally large anyway? If he does it in the WH, then DC govt can't shut it down.

There isn't going to be a large gathering at the WHite House though.

as someone posted after me - the DC restrictions are to 50 people. I'm assuming the White House holds more than 50 people.


Because he suddenly cares about covid protocols and restrictions?

Nah- he wants no eyes on him when he gets crushed.
 
2020-10-30 11:03:39 AM  
2 votes:

Farkin_Crazy: Error 482: aedude01: shastacola: Error 482: "a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race"

This. This is the only reason it's being cancelled. Trump has shown repeatedly he does not care about pandemic restrictions or safety. He is too delusional to admit that he might lose. But he can't grift any money from it, and that's something that he would find both believable and important.

If Donald Trump thought that all cameras would be on him in his moment of glory he would not give a shiat about the money grift, he craves attention more than money.

Agreed.  He'd find some way for the Fed. Gov't to pay for it if he thought he was going to win.

The solution there would be to hold it somewhere else, where he can stiff them on the bill. I wouldn't be surprised if he tried it, but did so at the last minute and couldn't find anywhere that would take him up on it.

That's why nothing will be held at the hotel.

Trump doesn't mind it one bit when vendors get stiffed.

Unless he's the vendor. Then he wants 2x the original contract. He's gotta get his taste, ya know.


This. As TFA pointed out, this whole thing has been a big fundraiser for a seriously strapped campaign. "Come party with the pres and his first lady  as we celebrate beating the evil dims!" My guess is that people within the campaign came to him and said "We can't afford this. You're going to have to donate the hotel space." And tRump, pouty toddler that he is, crossed his arms over his chest, stamped his feet and said, "No. If you aren't paying me then I won't go to the party. No."

I wouldn't be shocked to see this turn around in a day or two when they agree to pay for the hotel after all to avoid an angry mob of otherwise useful idiot donors.
 
2020-10-30 10:44:17 AM  
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Sentient: Farkin_Crazy: For example, if Biden wins a state by a full point, chances are that state is not going to even be allowed, by state law, to be challenged.

"Law" doesn't mean anything to trump's handlers. The challenges will occur, and will drag out for at least a month, more likely through the end of the year. Most will be decided by Supreme courts, which takes time.

If there's any honesty left in those courts, it won't change any outcomes, but I'm not convinced that's the case. Brace yourself for a long, drawn out and vitriolic process with decisions made on the basis of politics, not justice, and cross your fingers that trump isn't handed enough of those victories to "win".

If it's not an absolute, uncontestable landslide, this will be the path. And if it is, expect violence since trump will have nothing to lose, so he'll play that as definitive proof the election was stolen and set fire to everything on his way out, knowing the chaos will buy him time.


He's going to be tied up in courts (both civil and criminal) long past 2024.

Probably some jail time too.
 
2020-10-30 10:19:19 AM  
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Altimus Prime: The Trump International doesn't have a helipad,


It's the dumbest, most irrelevant example on the list the size of a phone book, but it stood out to me:  What the hell kinda billionaire who is famous for his helicopter entrances and personal jet doesn't have a helicopter pad on his building?

I mean, FFS, they're so common that fancy neighborhoods on both coasts have wound up having fights about banning the things.

Look at him! Look at him and laugh!

(But the rest of your post is spot on.  Though I'm still thinking he'll actually manufacture a reason to be in Mar A Lago before Tuesday, and never leave again.)
 
2020-10-30 9:57:09 AM  
2 votes:

CanisNoir: He's thinks he's playing you, again.


Fify
 
2020-10-30 9:51:02 AM  
2 votes:

Error 482: aedude01: shastacola: Error 482: "a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race"

This. This is the only reason it's being cancelled. Trump has shown repeatedly he does not care about pandemic restrictions or safety. He is too delusional to admit that he might lose. But he can't grift any money from it, and that's something that he would find both believable and important.

If Donald Trump thought that all cameras would be on him in his moment of glory he would not give a shiat about the money grift, he craves attention more than money.

Agreed.  He'd find some way for the Fed. Gov't to pay for it if he thought he was going to win.

The solution there would be to hold it somewhere else, where he can stiff them on the bill. I wouldn't be surprised if he tried it, but did so at the last minute and couldn't find anywhere that would take him up on it.


That's why nothing will be held at the hotel.

Trump doesn't mind it one bit when vendors get stiffed.

Unless he's the vendor. Then he wants 2x the original contract. He's gotta get his taste, ya know.
 
2020-10-30 9:40:41 AM  
2 votes:

CanisNoir: He's playing you, again.


For all you know, he's on a respirator.
 
2020-10-30 9:36:07 AM  
2 votes:
I may be the constant Trump cynic, but I have a suspicion that what's really going on is he's going to take a multi-hour nap at the White House (instead of in a room/suite at his hotel) until whatever time comes that he has to give a speech. Instead of taking an escalator down to the event, he'll have the secret service chauffeur him over, either give his congratulatory "4 more years" (ugh, Canada save us all) speech, or his "it isn't over, we're contesting CA, FL, PA, TX, and VT all the way to the court above the supreme court!" speech.
 
2020-10-30 9:33:11 AM  
2 votes:

Katie98_KT: shastacola: Katie98_KT: Wasn't the gathering illegally large anyway? If he does it in the WH, then DC govt can't shut it down.

There isn't going to be a large gathering at the WHite House though.

as someone posted after me - the DC restrictions are to 50 people. I'm assuming the White House holds more than 50 people.


The WH is federal land so it's outside of DC jurisdiction.
 
2020-10-30 9:26:46 AM  
2 votes:
We all know this is just 4D chess because Trump is such a humble and honest guy, who doesn't seek the spotlight for its own sake, right?

*starts crying profusely* YOU TRIGGERED SNOWFLAKE?
 
2020-10-30 9:23:35 AM  
2 votes:
Bravo subby! HOTY candidate.

Thanks for the laugh.
 
2020-10-30 9:16:23 AM  
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shastacola: Katie98_KT: Wasn't the gathering illegally large anyway? If he does it in the WH, then DC govt can't shut it down.

There isn't going to be a large gathering at the WHite House though.


as someone posted after me - the DC restrictions are to 50 people. I'm assuming the White House holds more than 50 people.
 
2020-10-30 9:11:53 AM  
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2020-10-30 2:41:32 PM  
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1funguy: hubiestubert: It's good that his handlers have finally gotten through. Now if they'd just leave a pistol on the nightstand we could all get back to trying to dig ourselves out of this mess.

That is creatively ugly, but not as ugly as the person who has to work 2 jobs and has no healthcare being forced to handle biohazard without proper PPE or training being assigned to clean the scene up so the press can say "the president died in his sleep".
They will have to put coil springs on the gurney and lower him to a waiting flatbed trailer below his room to haul him off.
I'm sure his corpulence will not have to wait in a refrigerated trailer, and if they place a shunt in his gunt and copper tube it through his casket to the surface, they can light the methane and he will have his own Eternal Flame.


How easily can urine extinguish said eternal flame? Asking for a few hundred million friends.
 
2020-10-30 2:25:26 PM  
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Pavlov's boner.
 
2020-10-30 12:12:09 PM  
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hubiestubert: It's good that his handlers have finally gotten through. Now if they'd just leave a pistol on the nightstand we could all get back to trying to dig ourselves out of this mess.


That is creatively ugly, but not as ugly as the person who has to work 2 jobs and has no healthcare being forced to handle biohazard without proper PPE or training being assigned to clean the scene up so the press can say "the president died in his sleep".
They will have to put coil springs on the gurney and lower him to a waiting flatbed trailer below his room to haul him off.
I'm sure his corpulence will not have to wait in a refrigerated trailer, and if they place a shunt in his gunt and copper tube it through his casket to the surface, they can light the methane and he will have his own Eternal Flame.
 
2020-10-30 12:02:26 PM  
1 vote:
TBH, I think after November 3rd, he's going to go to Mar A Lago until January, and charge the Secret Service like 2k a night per room while he's there... he's gonna grift as much as he can before he leaves.
 
2020-10-30 11:29:19 AM  
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Farkin_Crazy: Opacity: I may be the constant Trump cynic, but I have a suspicion that what's really going on is he's going to take a multi-hour nap at the White House (instead of in a room/suite at his hotel) until whatever time comes that he has to give a speech. Instead of taking an escalator down to the event, he'll have the secret service chauffeur him over, either give his congratulatory "4 more years" (ugh, Canada save us all) speech, or his "it isn't over, we're contesting CA, FL, PA, TX, and VT all the way to the court above the supreme court!" speech.

Maybe I'm being too much of an optimist, but I don't think his challenges are A. Going to help him and B. Are going flip the states needed to turn out differently.

Not to mention (and I've never heard anyone even bring this up) most every state has a margin in which a recount request can even be made.

For example, if Biden wins a state by a full point, chances are that state is not going to even be allowed, by state law, to be challenged.


I don't think you're being an optimist, I think you're being intelligent and showing a reasonable understanding of election laws. None of that stops Trump from being Trump. Who knows for sure what stunts he's going to try, but I'd imagine he's going to try to use the courts to try to stop counting while he's slightly ahead, or while the margin is within the range where he can contest if he thinks there's no way he's going to win a state. Barring state-level challenges, I could see federal level challenges occurring.

After I wrote my original post, I realized a real reason for Trump remaining at the White House is he can hide with his army of lawyers a lot easier and more securely than he can at the hotel, so napping aside, it's really probably about how they're attacking the process.

I sincerely do hope that all states worth greater than about 10 EVs are awarded, either way, by greater than about 5% of the vote. That's a very significant margin to challenge in court. Pipe dream, I know, but it's really the only way to ensure this isn't complete chaos.
 
2020-10-30 11:08:55 AM  
1 vote:

JerkStore: It was unclear why the plans had changed. But the prospect of the president appearing on the night of the election at the hotel was certain to reinforce concerns about Mr. Trump mingling the office with his business.

It would also reinforce questions about whether the hotel would be in violation of Washington coronavirus restrictions limiting gatherings to 50 people. And a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race.

So what's the real reason? These are all too sensible and exactly what a responsible person would do, so we know they aren't what is guiding Trump's decision.

He believes he's going to lose and as humiliating as that would be, the only way to make it worse is to plan a big party for himself where nobody will bother showing up.

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President "I'll Do What I Want Because" would have packed the hotel to the hilt. He loves a spectacle to the point he made the White House his personal reelection backdrop, especially with the Fourth Celebration.

There's the let's-not-suck-each-other-dicks realization that he can't steal enough of this election to make a difference.
 
2020-10-30 11:02:21 AM  
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2020-10-30 10:46:58 AM  
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Farkin_Crazy:
He's going to be tied up in courts (both civil and criminal) long past 2024.

Probably some jail time too.


God willing.
 
2020-10-30 10:43:06 AM  
1 vote:

shastacola: This is great news. The last thing Trump wants is the cameras on as he loses and he now knows he's going to lose.


*tickets are non-refundable
 
2020-10-30 10:39:22 AM  
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Sentient: "Law" doesn't mean anything to trump's handlers. The challenges will occur, and will drag out for at least a month, more likely through the end of the year. Most will be decided by Supreme courts, which takes time.


Electoral College meets 14 December 2020, by law ("the electors... shall meet and give their votes on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December"; 3 U.S.C. §7). I can't find anything in the law that allows for delays (but I didn't look too hard).

Believe it or not, there is some structure to how this Rube Goldberg of an election process works.

// can't wait to see the farkery SCOTUS invents to thumb the scales
 
2020-10-30 9:44:02 AM  
1 vote:

aedude01: shastacola: Error 482: "a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race"

This. This is the only reason it's being cancelled. Trump has shown repeatedly he does not care about pandemic restrictions or safety. He is too delusional to admit that he might lose. But he can't grift any money from it, and that's something that he would find both believable and important.

If Donald Trump thought that all cameras would be on him in his moment of glory he would not give a shiat about the money grift, he craves attention more than money.

Agreed.  He'd find some way for the Fed. Gov't to pay for it if he thought he was going to win.


The solution there would be to hold it somewhere else, where he can stiff them on the bill. I wouldn't be surprised if he tried it, but did so at the last minute and couldn't find anywhere that would take him up on it.
 
2020-10-30 9:41:10 AM  
1 vote:
I hope he's still on steroids if and when he loses
 
2020-10-30 9:39:51 AM  
1 vote:
Does the Secret Service detail even carry child-sized handcuffs?
 
2020-10-30 9:14:07 AM  
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I bet that's the one bill he's paid tho.
 
2020-10-30 9:11:05 AM  
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Katie98_KT: Wasn't the gathering illegally large anyway? If he does it in the WH, then DC govt can't shut it down.


There isn't going to be a large gathering at the WHite House though.
 
2020-10-30 9:10:10 AM  
1 vote:
So his ego is of greater need than the cash he would have made from the rubes that night
 
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