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(The New York Times)   Donald Trump has cancelled his election night celebration at his hotel in Washington and will instead spend it quietly at the White House pushing all the furniture against the doors and handcuffing himself to the staircase   (nytimes.com) divider line
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2020-10-30 9:31:37 AM  

RyogaM: thorpe: There are 2 reasons for this, contained in the same paragraph.

" It would also reinforce questions about whether the hotel would be in violation of Washington coronavirus restrictions limiting gatherings to 50 people. And a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race. "

He never cared before, why would he start caring now?


Because D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser doesn't back down from Trump.

She ain't go no time for that.
 
2020-10-30 9:32:11 AM  
"a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race"

This. This is the only reason it's being cancelled. Trump has shown repeatedly he does not care about pandemic restrictions or safety. He is too delusional to admit that he might lose. But he can't grift any money from it, and that's something that he would find both believable and important.
 
2020-10-30 9:33:11 AM  

Katie98_KT: shastacola: Katie98_KT: Wasn't the gathering illegally large anyway? If he does it in the WH, then DC govt can't shut it down.

There isn't going to be a large gathering at the WHite House though.

as someone posted after me - the DC restrictions are to 50 people. I'm assuming the White House holds more than 50 people.


The WH is federal land so it's outside of DC jurisdiction.
 
2020-10-30 9:33:21 AM  
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2020-10-30 9:33:30 AM  
"For the last several days, Mr. Trump, who is deeply superstitious, has tried to recreate as many of the 2016 election conditions around himself as possible."

And if I eat three hamberders in a row without the lettuce falling out, I will win all 50 states and Stormy Daniels will come to her senses and beg for more mushroom...
 
2020-10-30 9:34:59 AM  

Error 482: "a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race"

This. This is the only reason it's being cancelled. Trump has shown repeatedly he does not care about pandemic restrictions or safety. He is too delusional to admit that he might lose. But he can't grift any money from it, and that's something that he would find both believable and important.


If Donald Trump thought that all cameras would be on him in his moment of glory he would not give a shiat about the money grift, he craves attention more than money.
 
2020-10-30 9:36:07 AM  
I may be the constant Trump cynic, but I have a suspicion that what's really going on is he's going to take a multi-hour nap at the White House (instead of in a room/suite at his hotel) until whatever time comes that he has to give a speech. Instead of taking an escalator down to the event, he'll have the secret service chauffeur him over, either give his congratulatory "4 more years" (ugh, Canada save us all) speech, or his "it isn't over, we're contesting CA, FL, PA, TX, and VT all the way to the court above the supreme court!" speech.
 
2020-10-30 9:36:09 AM  

shastacola: Error 482: "a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race"

This. This is the only reason it's being cancelled. Trump has shown repeatedly he does not care about pandemic restrictions or safety. He is too delusional to admit that he might lose. But he can't grift any money from it, and that's something that he would find both believable and important.

If Donald Trump thought that all cameras would be on him in his moment of glory he would not give a shiat about the money grift, he craves attention more than money.


Agreed.  He'd find some way for the Fed. Gov't to pay for it if he thought he was going to win.
 
2020-10-30 9:39:51 AM  
Does the Secret Service detail even carry child-sized handcuffs?
 
2020-10-30 9:40:41 AM  

CanisNoir: He's playing you, again.


For all you know, he's on a respirator.
 
2020-10-30 9:41:10 AM  
I hope he's still on steroids if and when he loses
 
2020-10-30 9:41:46 AM  

Arachnophobe: Does the Secret Service detail even carry child-sized handcuffs?


Dental floss will work, too.
 
2020-10-30 9:41:51 AM  

Opacity: I may be the constant Trump cynic, but I have a suspicion that what's really going on is he's going to take a multi-hour nap at the White House (instead of in a room/suite at his hotel) until whatever time comes that he has to give a speech. Instead of taking an escalator down to the event, he'll have the secret service chauffeur him over, either give his congratulatory "4 more years" (ugh, Canada save us all) speech, or his "it isn't over, we're contesting CA, FL, PA, TX, and VT all the way to the court above the supreme court!" speech.


Maybe I'm being too much of an optimist, but I don't think his challenges are A. Going to help him and B. Are going flip the states needed to turn out differently.

Not to mention (and I've never heard anyone even bring this up) most every state has a margin in which a recount request can even be made.

For example, if Biden wins a state by a full point, chances are that state is not going to even be allowed, by state law, to be challenged.
 
2020-10-30 9:44:02 AM  

aedude01: shastacola: Error 482: "a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race"

This. This is the only reason it's being cancelled. Trump has shown repeatedly he does not care about pandemic restrictions or safety. He is too delusional to admit that he might lose. But he can't grift any money from it, and that's something that he would find both believable and important.

If Donald Trump thought that all cameras would be on him in his moment of glory he would not give a shiat about the money grift, he craves attention more than money.

Agreed.  He'd find some way for the Fed. Gov't to pay for it if he thought he was going to win.


The solution there would be to hold it somewhere else, where he can stiff them on the bill. I wouldn't be surprised if he tried it, but did so at the last minute and couldn't find anywhere that would take him up on it.
 
2020-10-30 9:48:48 AM  
Two words: Budd Dwyer
 
2020-10-30 9:51:02 AM  

Error 482: aedude01: shastacola: Error 482: "a party would have to be paid for by the campaign, which is facing a cash crunch in the final weeks of the race"

This. This is the only reason it's being cancelled. Trump has shown repeatedly he does not care about pandemic restrictions or safety. He is too delusional to admit that he might lose. But he can't grift any money from it, and that's something that he would find both believable and important.

If Donald Trump thought that all cameras would be on him in his moment of glory he would not give a shiat about the money grift, he craves attention more than money.

Agreed.  He'd find some way for the Fed. Gov't to pay for it if he thought he was going to win.

The solution there would be to hold it somewhere else, where he can stiff them on the bill. I wouldn't be surprised if he tried it, but did so at the last minute and couldn't find anywhere that would take him up on it.


That's why nothing will be held at the hotel.

Trump doesn't mind it one bit when vendors get stiffed.

Unless he's the vendor. Then he wants 2x the original contract. He's gotta get his taste, ya know.
 
2020-10-30 9:52:22 AM  
Because he knows he's going to lose, but will refuse to give a concession speech.
 
2020-10-30 9:52:28 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Katie98_KT: shastacola: Katie98_KT: Wasn't the gathering illegally large anyway? If he does it in the WH, then DC govt can't shut it down.

There isn't going to be a large gathering at the WHite House though.

as someone posted after me - the DC restrictions are to 50 people. I'm assuming the White House holds more than 50 people.

Fun fact: DC laws end at the threshold of Federal property.


which is exactly what I said?
Trump hotel wouldn't be federal property though.
 
2020-10-30 9:54:24 AM  
🥚 🥚🥚🥚🥚🥚 != 🐥🐤🐥🐣🐤🐤

Don't count em till they hatch
 
2020-10-30 9:54:39 AM  
As long as there is a TV camera there so he can make his concession speech.
 
2020-10-30 9:55:31 AM  

aedude01: Katie98_KT: shastacola: Katie98_KT: Wasn't the gathering illegally large anyway? If he does it in the WH, then DC govt can't shut it down.

There isn't going to be a large gathering at the WHite House though.

as someone posted after me - the DC restrictions are to 50 people. I'm assuming the White House holds more than 50 people.

The WH is federal land so it's outside of DC jurisdiction.


Yes, that's exactly what I said. If he holds it in the hotel, he has to keep it to 50 people. If he does it at the white house, he isn't restricted to 50 people. Because DC govt can't shut it down.
 
2020-10-30 9:56:37 AM  
I wonder if he'll give himself his deposit back.
 
2020-10-30 9:57:09 AM  

CanisNoir: He's thinks he's playing you, again.


Fify
 
2020-10-30 9:58:12 AM  

UNC_Samurai: gunga galunga: CanisNoir: He's playing you, again.

We're still voting.

Wow, someone dusted off THAT account?


It's been showing up from time to time recently. Now I'm just waiting for GatoNegro to reappear.
 
2020-10-30 9:59:49 AM  

JerkStore: So what's the real reason? These are all too sensible and exactly what a responsible person would do, so we know they aren't what is guiding Trump's decision.


Frankly, his campaign has to pay for it, and they're broke as shiat.
I don't think he's interested in shelling out his own money to throw a party to celebrate his liss (though, on the night itself, it might not appear as much a loss)
 
2020-10-30 10:01:43 AM  
AND, Trump will no doubt be Googling "countries with no extradition treaty with the United States".

Wait'll Donnie finds out that aside from Russia & Saudi Arabia (a choice between Polonium or bonesaws for him), the rest of the places on the map are "shiathole countries".
 
2020-10-30 10:03:02 AM  

Norwegian Squirrel: Two words: Budd Dwyer


From your lips to god's ears.
 
2020-10-30 10:07:25 AM  

shastacola: This is great news. The last thing Trump wants is the cameras on as he loses and he now knows he's going to lose.


This is surprising to me- and good news as well. One of the few gambits he has to try to remain in power despite the election is in simply declaring victory at some point on election night. A big crowd of adoring fans cheering for his victory can do a lot to promote that narrative among his supporters to inoculate them from the final results. "They are stealing the election from us!" becomes both rallying cry and justification as they proceed to try to steal the election from us.
 
2020-10-30 10:09:29 AM  
It's entirely possible that on election night he won't be able to get from the White House to the Trump International, even though it's only 3.5 blocks to cover outside the White House security perimeter.  DC MPD sent a notice to D.C. businesses last night warning of potential street closures on basically every street within a six block radius around the White House.  It's going to be a shiat show down there just from registered demonstrations, before you get into people randomly taking to the streets.

He's sure as hell going to be going into full-on bunker mode. The Trump International doesn't have a helipad, either, so the only way he'd be able to make the trip is by motorcade.  My guess is the secret service told him they couldn't assure his safety off the White House grounds.  My additional guess is that Marine One is going to be fueled, ready, and parked on the south lawn all evening because reasons.
 
2020-10-30 10:10:55 AM  
I wonder how fast the money will dry up for him after he leaves office.  How fast will the 'free ride' come to an end?  How will he deal with his sudden poverty?  How epic will the GOP melt-down be?
 
2020-10-30 10:13:11 AM  

A Cave Geek: I wonder how fast the money will dry up for him after he leaves office.  How fast will the 'free ride' come to an end?  How will he deal with his sudden poverty?  How epic will the GOP melt-down be?


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2020-10-30 10:13:26 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: Yeah, that ain't gonna happen. So, he grifted all you stupid mothefarkers one last time before he leaves office.

Fuggin' morans.


"Last time"?

This is Fark, so I ~should~ throw your "fuggin morans" back at you, but it's Friday, and we're all burned out, so instead I'll go with: I *wish* I had your optimism that we'd never here from him again.

And he's in office until January, even if he does accept defeat and want to run away.  He's far, FAR too much of a coward to take the honorable exit, and too big a narcissist to resign and disappear into humble silence.

But I would *love* to be proven wrong. We'll see. Gonna be a farker up week. Buckle up, y'all.
 
2020-10-30 10:14:16 AM  
Altimus Prime:

He's sure as hell going to be going into full-on bunker mode. The Trump International doesn't have a helipad, either, so the only way he'd be able to make the trip is by motorcade.  My guess is the secret service told him they couldn't assure his safety off the White House grounds.  My additional guess is that Marine One is going to be fueled, ready, and parked on the south lawn all evening because reasons.

IMHO, if he wanted to get from point A to point B on election night he'll order the Secret Service to get him there, no matter the cost.  SEE: The church and bible photo op.
 
2020-10-30 10:14:50 AM  

SFSailor: Farkin_Crazy: Yeah, that ain't gonna happen. So, he grifted all you stupid mothefarkers one last time before he leaves office.

Fuggin' morans.

"Last time"?

This is Fark, so I ~should~ throw your "fuggin morans" back at you, but it's Friday, and we're all burned out, so instead I'll go with: I *wish* I had your optimism that we'd never here from him again.

And he's in office until January, even if he does accept defeat and want to run away.  He's far, FAR too much of a coward to take the honorable exit, and too big a narcissist to resign and disappear into humble silence.

But I would *love* to be proven wrong. We'll see. Gonna be a farker up week. Buckle up, y'all.


Donor money, or at least vast sums of it, won't flow to him if he loses next week.
 
2020-10-30 10:15:22 AM  
This would be the only time I'd pay good money to see Dolt45 do anything.
And by "good money" I mean $5.
Yeah, I'd pay five dollars to see him cry like a girl.
 
2020-10-30 10:18:30 AM  

doctorguilty: This would be the only time I'd pay good money to see Dolt45 do anything.
And by "good money" I mean $5.
Yeah, I'd pay five dollars to see him cry like a girl.


Altimus Prime: A Cave Geek: I wonder how fast the money will dry up for him after he leaves office.  How fast will the 'free ride' come to an end?  How will he deal with his sudden poverty?  How epic will the GOP melt-down be?

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2020-10-30 10:19:19 AM  

Altimus Prime: The Trump International doesn't have a helipad,


It's the dumbest, most irrelevant example on the list the size of a phone book, but it stood out to me:  What the hell kinda billionaire who is famous for his helicopter entrances and personal jet doesn't have a helicopter pad on his building?

I mean, FFS, they're so common that fancy neighborhoods on both coasts have wound up having fights about banning the things.

Look at him! Look at him and laugh!

(But the rest of your post is spot on.  Though I'm still thinking he'll actually manufacture a reason to be in Mar A Lago before Tuesday, and never leave again.)
 
2020-10-30 10:21:20 AM  

SFSailor: Altimus Prime: The Trump International doesn't have a helipad,

It's the dumbest, most irrelevant example on the list the size of a phone book, but it stood out to me:  What the hell kinda billionaire who is famous for his helicopter entrances and personal jet doesn't have a helicopter pad on his building?

I mean, FFS, they're so common that fancy neighborhoods on both coasts have wound up having fights about banning the things.

Look at him! Look at him and laugh!

(But the rest of your post is spot on.  Though I'm still thinking he'll actually manufacture a reason to be in Mar A Lago before Tuesday, and never leave again.)


It's a historic building, you can't modify it in that way, and even if you could, there's nowhere to put it.  The bell tower isn't going to support it.
 
2020-10-30 10:22:47 AM  

gunga galunga: CanisNoir: He's playing you, again.

We're still voting.


Well, I for one won't be voting on Tuesday. Mainly because I voted six weeks ago, but who cares about petty details?
 
2020-10-30 10:25:25 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: SFSailor: Farkin_Crazy: Yeah, that ain't gonna happen. So, he grifted all you stupid mothefarkers one last time before he leaves office.

Fuggin' morans.

"Last time"?

This is Fark, so I ~should~ throw your "fuggin morans" back at you, but it's Friday, and we're all burned out, so instead I'll go with: I *wish* I had your optimism that we'd never here from him again.

And he's in office until January, even if he does accept defeat and want to run away.  He's far, FAR too much of a coward to take the honorable exit, and too big a narcissist to resign and disappear into humble silence.

But I would *love* to be proven wrong. We'll see. Gonna be a farker up week. Buckle up, y'all.

Donor money, or at least vast sums of it, won't flow to him if he loses next week.


You are crazy, but it's sad that optimism and faith in rational behavior is crazy these days.

He'll be selling MAGA 2024 shiat in January.  And the "we were robbed! Help me stand up to the  Demoncrats! Just $20 gets you a chance to win a round of golf...." emails will be flying before the last court election rulings have been spat out of the printer.  As much as the t(R)eason party may want to memoryhole him and move on, he's too stupid and narcissistic to shut the fark up and to cheap to leave even the last MAGAt's last penny on the table.

But, man, I hope you're right.
 
2020-10-30 10:26:19 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: For example, if Biden wins a state by a full point, chances are that state is not going to even be allowed, by state law, to be challenged.


"Law" doesn't mean anything to trump's handlers. The challenges will occur, and will drag out for at least a month, more likely through the end of the year. Most will be decided by Supreme courts, which takes time.

If there's any honesty left in those courts, it won't change any outcomes, but I'm not convinced that's the case. Brace yourself for a long, drawn out and vitriolic process with decisions made on the basis of politics, not justice, and cross your fingers that trump isn't handed enough of those victories to "win".

If it's not an absolute, uncontestable landslide, this will be the path. And if it is, expect violence since trump will have nothing to lose, so he'll play that as definitive proof the election was stolen and set fire to everything on his way out, knowing the chaos will buy him time.
 
2020-10-30 10:28:51 AM  
rolladuck:I've gotten about 50 of those emails in just the last few days. "Emergency fundraising opportunity" and such.

"WE'VE LOST OUR LEASE! EVERY GRIFT MUST GO!!!"
 
2020-10-30 10:39:22 AM  

Sentient: "Law" doesn't mean anything to trump's handlers. The challenges will occur, and will drag out for at least a month, more likely through the end of the year. Most will be decided by Supreme courts, which takes time.


Electoral College meets 14 December 2020, by law ("the electors... shall meet and give their votes on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December"; 3 U.S.C. §7). I can't find anything in the law that allows for delays (but I didn't look too hard).

Believe it or not, there is some structure to how this Rube Goldberg of an election process works.

// can't wait to see the farkery SCOTUS invents to thumb the scales
 
2020-10-30 10:43:06 AM  

shastacola: This is great news. The last thing Trump wants is the cameras on as he loses and he now knows he's going to lose.


*tickets are non-refundable
 
2020-10-30 10:43:50 AM  

A Cave Geek: doctorguilty: This would be the only time I'd pay good money to see Dolt45 do anything.
And by "good money" I mean $5.
Yeah, I'd pay five dollars to see him cry like a girl.

Altimus Prime: A Cave Geek: I wonder how fast the money will dry up for him after he leaves office.  How fast will the 'free ride' come to an end?  How will he deal with his sudden poverty?  How epic will the GOP melt-down be?

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That picture should be Trump's official presidential portrait.
 
2020-10-30 10:44:17 AM  

Sentient: Farkin_Crazy: For example, if Biden wins a state by a full point, chances are that state is not going to even be allowed, by state law, to be challenged.

"Law" doesn't mean anything to trump's handlers. The challenges will occur, and will drag out for at least a month, more likely through the end of the year. Most will be decided by Supreme courts, which takes time.

If there's any honesty left in those courts, it won't change any outcomes, but I'm not convinced that's the case. Brace yourself for a long, drawn out and vitriolic process with decisions made on the basis of politics, not justice, and cross your fingers that trump isn't handed enough of those victories to "win".

If it's not an absolute, uncontestable landslide, this will be the path. And if it is, expect violence since trump will have nothing to lose, so he'll play that as definitive proof the election was stolen and set fire to everything on his way out, knowing the chaos will buy him time.


He's going to be tied up in courts (both civil and criminal) long past 2024.

Probably some jail time too.
 
2020-10-30 10:46:20 AM  

Katie98_KT: Dr Dreidel: Katie98_KT: shastacola: Katie98_KT: Wasn't the gathering illegally large anyway? If he does it in the WH, then DC govt can't shut it down.

There isn't going to be a large gathering at the WHite House though.

as someone posted after me - the DC restrictions are to 50 people. I'm assuming the White House holds more than 50 people.

Fun fact: DC laws end at the threshold of Federal property.

which is exactly what I said?
Trump hotel wouldn't be federal property though.


I believe it's the old Post Office, and only leased by Trump for his hotel. So, still technically federal property...and who knows who owns the land it's built on.  Feds, I would assume.

Isn't all of DC technically federal land?
 
2020-10-30 10:46:58 AM  
Farkin_Crazy:
He's going to be tied up in courts (both civil and criminal) long past 2024.

Probably some jail time too.


God willing.
 
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