Skip to content
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Ars Technica)   Gimme volts, gimme amps, gimme dabajabazappa   (arstechnica.com) divider line
    More: Cool  
•       •       •

893 clicks; posted to STEM » on 30 Oct 2020 at 11:07 AM (3 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



33 Comments     (+0 »)
 
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest
 
2020-10-30 10:43:04 AM  
That should power the little car mag editorials for a while. There was a time when it was heresy to be dropping new LS1 engines into old vehicles but everybody got past that. Now, we'll change the nouns and rehash the arguments.
 
2020-10-30 11:15:50 AM  
Price?
 
2020-10-30 11:16:36 AM  
I wish that a good electric drivetrain was an option when I built my car.  I have a bit of guilt about my 7 liter hemi.
 
2020-10-30 11:27:03 AM  
Good one, Subby.  I had the lyrics to Ride the Lightning flash before my eyes.

/ Now it's time to drive.
 
2020-10-30 11:33:06 AM  

Explodo: I wish that a good electric drivetrain was an option when I built my car.  I have a bit of guilt about my 7 liter hemi.


You monster!
 
2020-10-30 11:33:11 AM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Price?


If it's a penny under 15 large, I'll be extremely surprised (and still too broke).
 
2020-10-30 11:36:09 AM  
FTA: And if 200hp or 60kWh aren't enough for the electric hotrod you think you need

No, no, 200hp is certainly enough for my hot rod. PER WHEEL MOTHERFARKER
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-10-30 11:46:47 AM  

KRSESQ: demaL-demaL-yeH: Price?

If it's a penny under 15 large, I'll be extremely surprised (and still too broke).


I wouldn't take that bet.  And, really, $15-20k isn't even much for a powertrain in the custom / more-money-than-sense / show car / write-a-check-to-someone-else-build world.  Hell, $15-20k if it's _everything_ is cheap, once you start pencilling out not just a decent and dressed up motor but also the trans, electronics, exhaust, fuel system, etc.  Hell, just typing that out, I'm not sure I'd take the Under on $25k for everything, MSRP.

But, (a) FINALLY.

And, (2) -- the fact that GM is going to have a factory solution means that they're going to have factory bits and pieces to make it work. And there is massive culture-influencing power in just the existence of "can go to the dealer, slap down a credit card, and get a powerplant with a warranty."

So it becomes a *lot* easier to do it the Ol' Fashioned Hot Rodder Way, and take a wrecked Bolt/whatever and cram it into your $somethingcooler.

Dammit.  I thought I finnnalllly managed to get over my addiction to FSJs.  Might need to get back to wanting another one, and daydream about a fully electric Chief or something.  Man, just poking around the linked GM site, the eRod LSs look awfully fun.  Dammit, where's my powerball winning ticket??

Very cool, even if I am not the target audience.
 
2020-10-30 11:50:25 AM  
I have a list of cars, either known for not having the performance to match their looks, being notoriously unreliable or both I would love to do electric conversions on.  This is at the top of my list:

img.hmn.comView Full Size
 
2020-10-30 12:08:38 PM  

Myk-House of El: I have a list of cars, either known for not having the performance to match their looks, being notoriously unreliable or both I would love to do electric conversions on.  This is at the top of my list:

[img.hmn.com image 850x437]


Oh, _hell_ ya.

A fair number of 70s cars could be perfect -- smog/regulations made them woefully underpowered (as, of course, just the marching of time has too), but they were still stylish... and are not commonly seen... but are cheap enough and underappreciated enough that you could gut one without setting off all the "purists."

Wonder how much a seized-motor X1/9 goes for...
 
2020-10-30 12:39:03 PM  

SFSailor: Myk-House of El: I have a list of cars, either known for not having the performance to match their looks, being notoriously unreliable or both I would love to do electric conversions on.  This is at the top of my list:

[img.hmn.com image 850x437]

Oh, _hell_ ya.

A fair number of 70s cars could be perfect -- smog/regulations made them woefully underpowered (as, of course, just the marching of time has too), but they were still stylish... and are not commonly seen... but are cheap enough and underappreciated enough that you could gut one without setting off all the "purists."

Wonder how much a seized-motor X1/9 goes for...


How do you feel about rich Corinthian leather?

i.pinimg.comView Full Size
 
2020-10-30 12:47:09 PM  

Myk-House of El: SFSailor: Myk-House of El: I have a list of cars, either known for not having the performance to match their looks, being notoriously unreliable or both I would love to do electric conversions on.  This is at the top of my list:

[img.hmn.com image 850x437]

Oh, _hell_ ya.

A fair number of 70s cars could be perfect -- smog/regulations made them woefully underpowered (as, of course, just the marching of time has too), but they were still stylish... and are not commonly seen... but are cheap enough and underappreciated enough that you could gut one without setting off all the "purists."

Wonder how much a seized-motor X1/9 goes for...

How do you feel about rich Corinthian leather?

[i.pinimg.com image 850x637]


Disclaimer:  I am aware that I have horrible taste.

But that'd be at least 1,000 kinds of awesome, in silent, electric form.

I have a fetish for FSJs -- hey, I'm aware and admitted and working on it -- but I also have long wanted a big ol' landyacht 2-door pointless monstrosity for a while.  Right next to a pre-IIHS-safety-demands ultralight little roadster in the garage, duh.  Everybody wants a caddy convertible, but that right there would be an entirely awesome kind of weird.  Or a, say, suicide-door t'bird from the 60s.  Or any flavor of Citroen or weird-Euro-impossible-to-get-parts-for​.

Off to set up yet more ebaymotors automated searches!
 
2020-10-30 12:55:29 PM  

SFSailor: Myk-House of El: SFSailor: Myk-House of El: I have a list of cars, either known for not having the performance to match their looks, being notoriously unreliable or both I would love to do electric conversions on.  This is at the top of my list:

[img.hmn.com image 850x437]

Oh, _hell_ ya.

A fair number of 70s cars could be perfect -- smog/regulations made them woefully underpowered (as, of course, just the marching of time has too), but they were still stylish... and are not commonly seen... but are cheap enough and underappreciated enough that you could gut one without setting off all the "purists."

Wonder how much a seized-motor X1/9 goes for...

How do you feel about rich Corinthian leather?

[i.pinimg.com image 850x637]

Disclaimer:  I am aware that I have horrible taste.

But that'd be at least 1,000 kinds of awesome, in silent, electric form.

I have a fetish for FSJs -- hey, I'm aware and admitted and working on it -- but I also have long wanted a big ol' landyacht 2-door pointless monstrosity for a while.  Right next to a pre-IIHS-safety-demands ultralight little roadster in the garage, duh.  Everybody wants a caddy convertible, but that right there would be an entirely awesome kind of weird.  Or a, say, suicide-door t'bird from the 60s.  Or any flavor of Citroen or weird-Euro-impossible-to-get-parts-for​.

Off to set up yet more ebaymotors automated searches!


A 200 HP Duck?

Terrifying thought.
 
2020-10-30 1:01:11 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Explodo: I wish that a good electric drivetrain was an option when I built my car.  I have a bit of guilt about my 7 liter hemi.

You monster!


My guilt doesn't outweigh the smile it puts on my face, so there's that.  It's also a modern hemi with an EFI system, so it's theoretically a bit more efficient.

SFSailor: I wouldn't take that bet.  And, really, $15-20k isn't even much for a powertrain in the custom / more-money-than-sense / show car / write-a-check-to-someone-else-build world.  Hell, $15-20k if it's _everything_ is cheap, once you start pencilling out not just a decent and dressed up motor but also the trans, electronics, exhaust, fuel system, etc.  Hell, just typing that out, I'm not sure I'd take the Under on $25k for everything, MSRP.

But, (a) FINALLY.

And, (2) -- the fact that GM is going to have a factory solution means that they're going to have factory bits and pieces to make it work. And there is massive culture-influencing power in just the existence of "can go to the dealer, slap down a credit card, and get a powerplant with a warranty."


Yeah...it depends on if you're going GM or Ford or Chrysler really.  When I built my car a custom Gen III hemi ran a bit over $20k with an EFI system included.  That's just the engine and EFI system.  Stick on a transmission and all the other stuff you need to run a car and prices go really high really fast(or as fast as you can save up the money).  I'm into my car for over $100k and I built it myself.  Even the paint(just a current OEM color, not custom) was $1000/gal.

On the plus side, I do have a damned nice car now.
 
2020-10-30 1:28:42 PM  

Myk-House of El: I have a list of cars, either known for not having the performance to match their looks, being notoriously unreliable or both I would love to do electric conversions on.  This is at the top of my list:

[img.hmn.com image 850x437]



Lancia Beta?

In college, I had a friend that had two of those: one for parts. The other one didn't run either. But they were beautiful.
 
2020-10-30 1:33:43 PM  

Explodo: $1000/gal.


Wtf?  Was it Mystic or Chromallusion or something?
 
2020-10-30 1:36:49 PM  
"Let's electrify a K5 Blazer but pick one of the ugliest years!"
 
2020-10-30 1:41:34 PM  

Explodo: On the plus side, I do have a damned nice car now.


Pics or GTFO.

; )

I didn't want to get into the even bigger numbers I have heard thrown around, as I am a cheap/poor bastard who has no direct personal experience in that stratosphere, but I believe all of yours.  Hell, my powerboat mechanic had a big pile of powdercoated parts on his floor at one point:  "Yeah, buddy of mine put $40k into just the motor and it blew up in a week.  I told him to bring it to me to begin with, but he went somewhere else first.  That's what you get when you spend more time worrying about the color of the valve covers than what's inside."

Shiat.  Now I'm wondering about one of those e-LSxs on that GM page getting bolted into my center console.

Where's my powerball ticket?
 
2020-10-30 2:02:14 PM  

Ginnungagap42:
Lancia Beta?


In college, I had a friend that had two of those: one for parts. The other one didn't run either. But they were beautiful.


Yep.  Though I expect most folks in the US that recognize it would call it the Lancia Scorpion as that was the branding here.

SFSailor: Disclaimer: I am aware that I have horrible taste.

But that'd be at least 1,000 kinds of awesome, in silent, electric form.

I have a fetish for FSJs -- hey, I'm aware and admitted and working on it -- but I also have long wanted a big ol' landyacht 2-door pointless monstrosity for a while. Right next to a pre-IIHS-safety-demands ultralight little roadster in the garage, duh. Everybody wants a caddy convertible, but that right there would be an entirely awesome kind of weird. Or a, say, suicide-door t'bird from the 60s. Or any flavor of Citroen or weird-Euro-impossible-to-get-parts-for​.

Off to set up yet more ebaymotors automated searches!


I'm crazy enough to want to set up a dual electric motor (for AWD) Mini traveler.  I know there's another company out there that has a crate electric just over 100 hp.  Two of those in something like this?:

Fark user imageView Full Size

Probably good I don't have more money than I do.
 
2020-10-30 2:31:18 PM  

Myk-House of El: Ginnungagap42:
Lancia Beta?


In college, I had a friend that had two of those: one for parts. The other one didn't run either. But they were beautiful.

Yep.  Though I expect most folks in the US that recognize it would call it the Lancia Scorpion as that was the branding here.

SFSailor: Disclaimer: I am aware that I have horrible taste.

But that'd be at least 1,000 kinds of awesome, in silent, electric form.

I have a fetish for FSJs -- hey, I'm aware and admitted and working on it -- but I also have long wanted a big ol' landyacht 2-door pointless monstrosity for a while. Right next to a pre-IIHS-safety-demands ultralight little roadster in the garage, duh. Everybody wants a caddy convertible, but that right there would be an entirely awesome kind of weird. Or a, say, suicide-door t'bird from the 60s. Or any flavor of Citroen or weird-Euro-impossible-to-get-parts-for​.

Off to set up yet more ebaymotors automated searches!

I'm crazy enough to want to set up a dual electric motor (for AWD) Mini traveler.  I know there's another company out there that has a crate electric just over 100 hp.  Two of those in something like this?:

[Fark user image 850x637]
Probably good I don't have more money than I do.



That's gorgeous.
 
2020-10-30 2:54:01 PM  
Every once in awhile I think about turning my manual HHR into an EV.

Old VW Bugs, S10s, and Fieros are already popular EV swaps.  This will make it just that much easier.
 
2020-10-30 4:06:08 PM  
Subby, your headline reminded me of a tune I haven't heard in ages...

The Polecats - Make a Circuit with Me
Youtube tIODDIpvfaE
 
2020-10-30 4:32:44 PM  

DrunkenGator: Good one, Subby.  I had the lyrics to Ride the Lightning flash before my eyes.

/ Now it's time to drive.


I had "Man In the Jar" by the Sensational Alex Harvey Band.
 
2020-10-30 4:48:26 PM  

Myk-House of El: I'm crazy enough to want to set up a dual electric motor (for AWD) Mini traveler.  I know there's another company out there that has a crate electric just over 100 hp.  Two of those in something like this?:


Wow.  That's *awesome*.  Great idea.  If I hit the PowerBall, I'll fund your project if I get to drive it.

Now I'm all curious bout the 100hp crate motor.  Wonder what the weight is.  Time to google and daydream.  I'd *love* to do an electric AWD Datsun Roadster to sit next to the better half's original 2000, even more than my ludicrous notion of a Subaru-drivetrain swap.

Where's that powerball ticket...
 
2020-10-30 4:48:29 PM  

bark2787: Every once in awhile I think about turning my manual HHR into an EV.

Old VW Bugs, S10s, and Fieros are already popular EV swaps.  This will make it just that much easier.


I promised myself I'd never own a Fiero again but the thought of converting an '89 GT into an EV has me tempted go back on that.
 
2020-10-30 4:49:19 PM  
Myk-House of El:

I'm crazy enough to want to set up a dual electric motor (for AWD) Mini traveler.  I know there's another company out there that has a crate electric just over 100 hp.  Two of those in something like this?:

< scrolls back up >

Wait.  What's in that garage?  *that* looks fun.
 
2020-10-30 5:48:32 PM  

Myk-House of El: Ginnungagap42:
Lancia Beta?


In college, I had a friend that had two of those: one for parts. The other one didn't run either. But they were beautiful.

Yep.  Though I expect most folks in the US that recognize it would call it the Lancia Scorpion as that was the branding here.

SFSailor: Disclaimer: I am aware that I have horrible taste.

But that'd be at least 1,000 kinds of awesome, in silent, electric form.

I have a fetish for FSJs -- hey, I'm aware and admitted and working on it -- but I also have long wanted a big ol' landyacht 2-door pointless monstrosity for a while. Right next to a pre-IIHS-safety-demands ultralight little roadster in the garage, duh. Everybody wants a caddy convertible, but that right there would be an entirely awesome kind of weird. Or a, say, suicide-door t'bird from the 60s. Or any flavor of Citroen or weird-Euro-impossible-to-get-parts-for​.

Off to set up yet more ebaymotors automated searches!

I'm crazy enough to want to set up a dual electric motor (for AWD) Mini traveler.  I know there's another company out there that has a crate electric just over 100 hp.  Two of those in something like this?:

[Fark user image image 850x637]
Probably good I don't have more money than I do.


I keep wondering if anyone has taken Teslas drag racing yet.

Or are they not allowed so as to spare the delicate (and deaf) egos of gearheads?
 
2020-10-30 5:50:40 PM  

Myk-House of El: Ginnungagap42:
Lancia Beta?


In college, I had a friend that had two of those: one for parts. The other one didn't run either. But they were beautiful.

Yep.  Though I expect most folks in the US that recognize it would call it the Lancia Scorpion as that was the branding here.

SFSailor: Disclaimer: I am aware that I have horrible taste.

But that'd be at least 1,000 kinds of awesome, in silent, electric form.

I have a fetish for FSJs -- hey, I'm aware and admitted and working on it -- but I also have long wanted a big ol' landyacht 2-door pointless monstrosity for a while. Right next to a pre-IIHS-safety-demands ultralight little roadster in the garage, duh. Everybody wants a caddy convertible, but that right there would be an entirely awesome kind of weird. Or a, say, suicide-door t'bird from the 60s. Or any flavor of Citroen or weird-Euro-impossible-to-get-parts-for​.

Off to set up yet more ebaymotors automated searches!

I'm crazy enough to want to set up a dual electric motor (for AWD) Mini traveler.  I know there's another company out there that has a crate electric just over 100 hp.  Two of those in something like this?:

[Fark user image image 850x637]
Probably good I don't have more money than I do.


I wanted to change my MGB to an MGe, but probably too heavy (setting aside the real problems of no time nor especially money).
 
2020-10-30 5:57:34 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: I keep wondering if anyone has taken Teslas drag racing yet.

Or are they not allowed so as to spare the delicate (and deaf) egos of gearheads?


There are youtube videos floating around.

They're fast.  It's just a lot harder to run multiple times when you recharge by extension cord instead of gas can.  And they aren't particularly rugged.

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: I wanted to change my MGB to an MGe, but probably too heavy (setting aside the real problems of no time nor especially money).


Inspired by this thread, I've been poking around a bit.

https://electricgt.com/shop/1966-1985​-​classic-fiat-124-spyder/

Might be up your alley.  (no affiliation, no recommendation, just a google result, blah blah blah)

But that's the spendy way.  Might be fun to find a wadded Prius and see what could be done.  Grab a sawzall and get to work!  I mean, can't be ~that~ hard, can it?
 
2020-10-30 6:04:11 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: I wanted to change my MGB to an MGe, but probably too heavy (setting aside the real problems of no time nor especially money).


The MGB GT is one on my short list of cars I'd convert if money was no object.

I've seen a few episodes of Vintage Voltage via Motortrend TV.   The first one I saw was converting a VW Karmann Ghia.  Found a promo on YouTube.


Vintage Voltage episode 1 Karmann Ghia official promo
Youtube 9bPuht_k2rM
 
2020-10-30 6:12:04 PM  

Myk-House of El: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: I wanted to change my MGB to an MGe, but probably too heavy (setting aside the real problems of no time nor especially money).

The MGB GT is one on my short list of cars I'd convert if money was no object.

I've seen a few episodes of Vintage Voltage via Motortrend TV.   The first one I saw was converting a VW Karmann Ghia.  Found a promo on YouTube.


[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/9bPuht_k​2rM?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]


Oh, man.  That is the PERFECT car for a swap like that.  Gorgeous and fun but slow and not suuuuper valuable.  Very cool.

I'm now wondering about a kit Porsche Speedster.  Wish that gold-pooping unicorn would finally appear in my backyard.

Seems to me there'd be a market for "bolts into the location of a GM v8 + batteries replace the gas tank" and and maybe "bolts into the location of a VW Beetle engine".  Where's my venture startup funding?
 
2020-10-30 8:46:39 PM  

Myk-House of El: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: I wanted to change my MGB to an MGe, but probably too heavy (setting aside the real problems of no time nor especially money).

The MGB GT is one on my short list of cars I'd convert if money was no object.

I've seen a few episodes of Vintage Voltage via Motortrend TV.   The first one I saw was converting a VW Karmann Ghia.  Found a promo on YouTube.


[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/9bPuht_k​2rM]


Richard Thompson - MGB-GT
Youtube 2-ZI5cPvQus
 
2020-10-30 9:08:16 PM  

Myk-House of El: I have a list of cars, either known for not having the performance to match their looks, being notoriously unreliable or both I would love to do electric conversions on.  This is at the top of my list:

[img.hmn.com image 850x437]


There used to be an annual electric car show around here, which my wife and I would attend when we could. Her comment about them was "I want to be a consumer, not a hobbyist", but at the time, most of the cars there were hobbyist-built, or occasional concept cars from manufacturers. And lots of Burning Man vehicles, of course, and electric bikes and such.
 
Displayed 33 of 33 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking





On Twitter



  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.