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2020-10-29 3:36:23 PM  
Honestly, I am surprised that Republicans are trying to stop ballot counting this early.

I would expect them to wait until the initial reports on the night of the election and then decide, on a state-by-state basis, whether states should continue to accept ballots postmarked on or before election day that continue to arrive in the mail -- with them arguing that states where Republicans won should stop accepting any ballots and states where Democrats won should continue to accept ballots until the last possible moment.
 
2020-10-29 3:43:12 PM  
Is Prettypleezus vs. Sugarontop relevant in this situation?

/Hail Mary.
 
2020-10-29 3:47:11 PM  
BUT IT'S OUR COURT NOW!!! WHY WON'T YOU DO WHAT WE WANT?!?!?!?!
 
2020-10-29 3:48:12 PM  
Desperation will make you do crazy shiat
 
2020-10-29 4:17:18 PM  
The last time SCOTUS gamed an election, we got a land war in Asia.

I hope they're a little gun shy after that one.
 
2020-10-29 4:33:54 PM  
They are playing the long game.  By giving the GOP these early loses they build credibility with America that maybe they will be non-partisan.  But wait, come election day and beyond, they will become the GOP's wet dream and hand the White House back to Trump.
 
2020-10-29 4:34:33 PM  
I guess we'll need to appeal then...
 
2020-10-29 4:35:29 PM  
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2020-10-29 4:36:37 PM  
Stop just saying no and charge them with conspiracy against democracy with mandatory 20 years in prison with no parole.

Attempted fascism should be a crime.
 
2020-10-29 4:36:41 PM  

NewportBarGuy: BUT IT'S OUR COURT NOW!!! WHY WON'T YOU DO WHAT WE WANT?!?!?!?!


WE BROKE THE POST OFFICE FOR THIS!!! DEMOCRACY IS LIBERALLY BIASED!!!
 
2020-10-29 4:38:27 PM  
Shall I even bother guessing how it shook out?

*click*

fta: "The court's three most conservative justices - Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch and Samuel Alito - would have granted the Republican request. Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who joined the bench Tuesday, took no part in considering the case."

So... no then.

For my next trick I will predict how ACB will vote on this next time it comes up.

Yes, cos wizard. -_-
 
2020-10-29 4:38:54 PM  

Onionhead: They are playing the long game.  By giving the GOP these early loses they build credibility with America that maybe they will be non-partisan.  But wait, come election day and beyond, they will become the GOP's wet dream and hand the White House back to Trump.


I know, after the way the world has been, it's tough to be hopeful.

However, all these conspiracy theories require the GOP to be as compentent as they are evil.  If Trump has shown us anything, it's that even though real people are being hurt RIGHT NOW, the evil transparent and disturbingly easy to fix.  Besides the people being hurt RIGHT NOW, the GOP has primarily wasted all of our time.

And hurt people RIGHT NOW.
 
2020-10-29 4:39:31 PM  

Onionhead: They are playing the long game.  By giving the GOP these early loses they build credibility with America that maybe they will be non-partisan.  But wait, come election day and beyond, they will become the GOP's wet dream and hand the White House back to Trump.


Taking a cynical view - Registered Republican voters who have requested mail in ballots have been a lot slower about returning them than registered Democrats. The extensions are probably either neutral or beneficial to the GOP.
 
2020-10-29 4:41:02 PM  

Dimensio: Honestly, I am surprised that Republicans are trying to stop ballot counting this early.

I would expect them to wait until the initial reports on the night of the election and then decide, on a state-by-state basis, whether states should continue to accept ballots postmarked on or before election day that continue to arrive in the mail -- with them arguing that states where Republicans won should stop accepting any ballots and states where Democrats won should continue to accept ballots until the last possible moment.


Yeah, but how do you even know WHO that would impact?

There's a not insignificant chance it could unintentionally hurt republicans.  You have no idea who's waiting until the last second.  It could be dems, it could be the gop, it could be a roughly equal batch of lazy people from both sides.

Sure, democrats use mail-in more than republicans, but if it was a big enough difference that it would hurt democrats in a somewhat meaningful way... wouldn't that by its very definition mean that the democrats are so far ahead it wouldn't matter anyway?

I'm just trying to figure out the dumbass logic here.
 
2020-10-29 4:41:19 PM  
I like watching republicans flail in their effort to throw away voting results they don't like. Simultaneously I'm waiting for the Supreme Court to cave in and let them do it.
 
2020-10-29 4:42:22 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: The last time SCOTUS gamed an election, we got a land war in Asia.

I hope they're a little gun shy after that one.


You think they could be a little gun shy?

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2020-10-29 4:44:01 PM  

Target Builder: Onionhead: They are playing the long game.  By giving the GOP these early loses they build credibility with America that maybe they will be non-partisan.  But wait, come election day and beyond, they will become the GOP's wet dream and hand the White House back to Trump.

Taking a cynical view - Registered Republican voters who have requested mail in ballots have been a lot slower about returning them than registered Democrats. The extensions are probably either neutral or beneficial to the GOP.


Um, they are not trying to extend voting, they are asking to stop the extension.
 
2020-10-29 4:44:08 PM  

jake3988: Dimensio: Honestly, I am surprised that Republicans are trying to stop ballot counting this early.

I would expect them to wait until the initial reports on the night of the election and then decide, on a state-by-state basis, whether states should continue to accept ballots postmarked on or before election day that continue to arrive in the mail -- with them arguing that states where Republicans won should stop accepting any ballots and states where Democrats won should continue to accept ballots until the last possible moment.

Yeah, but how do you even know WHO that would impact?

There's a not insignificant chance it could unintentionally hurt republicans.  You have no idea who's waiting until the last second.  It could be dems, it could be the gop, it could be a roughly equal batch of lazy people from both sides.

Sure, democrats use mail-in more than republicans, but if it was a big enough difference that it would hurt democrats in a somewhat meaningful way... wouldn't that by its very definition mean that the democrats are so far ahead it wouldn't matter anyway?

I'm just trying to figure out the dumbass logic here.


Push the line of normalcy just a wee little bit more?

Aka boil the frog slowly?
 
2020-10-29 4:45:05 PM  

jake3988: Dimensio: Honestly, I am surprised that Republicans are trying to stop ballot counting this early.

I would expect them to wait until the initial reports on the night of the election and then decide, on a state-by-state basis, whether states should continue to accept ballots postmarked on or before election day that continue to arrive in the mail -- with them arguing that states where Republicans won should stop accepting any ballots and states where Democrats won should continue to accept ballots until the last possible moment.

Yeah, but how do you even know WHO that would impact?

There's a not insignificant chance it could unintentionally hurt republicans.  You have no idea who's waiting until the last second.  It could be dems, it could be the gop, it could be a roughly equal batch of lazy people from both sides.

Sure, democrats use mail-in more than republicans, but if it was a big enough difference that it would hurt democrats in a somewhat meaningful way... wouldn't that by its very definition mean that the democrats are so far ahead it wouldn't matter anyway?

I'm just trying to figure out the dumbass logic here.


It shouldn't matter who it helps. If you're going to hold a vote to see what people want to do and you've agreed that everyone should be allowed to do that, let everyone do it and count them all no matter the outcome.

I know republican's are trying to stop that very thing, They're wrong.
 
2020-10-29 4:46:22 PM  

jake3988: Dimensio: Honestly, I am surprised that Republicans are trying to stop ballot counting this early.

I would expect them to wait until the initial reports on the night of the election and then decide, on a state-by-state basis, whether states should continue to accept ballots postmarked on or before election day that continue to arrive in the mail -- with them arguing that states where Republicans won should stop accepting any ballots and states where Democrats won should continue to accept ballots until the last possible moment.

Yeah, but how do you even know WHO that would impact?

There's a not insignificant chance it could unintentionally hurt republicans.  You have no idea who's waiting until the last second.  It could be dems, it could be the gop, it could be a roughly equal batch of lazy people from both sides.

Sure, democrats use mail-in more than republicans, but if it was a big enough difference that it would hurt democrats in a somewhat meaningful way... wouldn't that by its very definition mean that the democrats are so far ahead it wouldn't matter anyway?

I'm just trying to figure out the dumbass logic here.


Hence my confusion. The maximum Republican strategy is hold off until November 4, then immediately argue that any state with Republicans in the lead stop counting incoming ballots while any state with Democrats in the lead keep accepting them (as they have nothing to lose in those states).

As it is, even if they won all of their "stop counting after November 3" lawsuits they might still have to go back to court to whine that they need their own victory overturned should election night returns favor the Democrats.
 
2020-10-29 4:47:14 PM  
If your ballot wasn't in the mailbox last Monday then you might as well drop it off at your county offices.
 
2020-10-29 4:48:25 PM  
In other election-related disputes, the Supreme Court let stand a three-day mail ballot due date extension in Pennsylvania. But the justices rejected a Democratic push for a similar extension in Wisconsin, leaving the Nov. 3 deadline intact.

Nice to see the Supreme Court acting in a coherent manner.
 
2020-10-29 4:48:58 PM  

killershark: Marcus Aurelius: The last time SCOTUS gamed an election, we got a land war in Asia.

I hope they're a little gun shy after that one.

You think they could be a little gun shy?

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Off topic:
Does anyone else get a genuine smile whenever a Chris Evans laughing gif is used? It just seems that he exudes such happiness with his laughs.
 
2020-10-29 4:51:07 PM  

Mr.Uncle.Bill: Target Builder: Onionhead: They are playing the long game.  By giving the GOP these early loses they build credibility with America that maybe they will be non-partisan.  But wait, come election day and beyond, they will become the GOP's wet dream and hand the White House back to Trump.

Taking a cynical view - Registered Republican voters who have requested mail in ballots have been a lot slower about returning them than registered Democrats. The extensions are probably either neutral or beneficial to the GOP.

Um, they are not trying to extend voting, they are asking to stop the extension.


I meant the GOP controlled SCOTUS might be telling the State GOP to stop being idiots.

/realizing three of them sided with he state GOP
 
2020-10-29 4:51:09 PM  
Roberts is being quite consistent. If the state allows extensions he votes for it, if not he votes against it (boiled down). He leaves it up to State's established law. Some states were better about this than others. The biggest truth is though very few if any states ever anticipated this sort of issue. Now they can. If you want them to be responsible about it next time (and COVID could still be an issue in 2022), vote Democrats at the state level. If you prefer to block people from voting, vote R.
 
2020-10-29 4:52:59 PM  

SMB2811: In other election-related disputes, the Supreme Court let stand a three-day mail ballot due date extension in Pennsylvania. But the justices rejected a Democratic push for a similar extension in Wisconsin, leaving the Nov. 3 deadline intact.

Nice to see the Supreme Court acting in a coherent manner.


For better or worse depending on the state, they are working consistently in that the rulings have left standing what the states decided. I think the issue in Wisconsin was a federal judge tried to be a bro and extend the time. SCOTUS said no.

Could be wrong. Currently they are being hands off. Currently.
 
2020-10-29 4:53:59 PM  

SMB2811: In other election-related disputes, the Supreme Court let stand a three-day mail ballot due date extension in Pennsylvania. But the justices rejected a Democratic push for a similar extension in Wisconsin, leaving the Nov. 3 deadline intact.

Nice to see the Supreme Court acting in a coherent manner.


I think that the Penn law was already in place for a while, while the Wisconsin adjustment was more recent.
 
2020-10-29 4:54:20 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: The last time SCOTUS gamed an election, we got a land war in Asia.

I hope they're a little gun shy after that one.

Two

land wars where, let no one forget, nonstate actors without access to the vast paraphernalia of modern weaponry handed us our ass time and again. Where one of them ended up kicking us out of the country because we were unable or unwilling to control our bloodthirsty mercenaries. Where the other is stalemated into US - ahem "coalition" - forces owning precisely the spot they stand on and nowhere else at all. In fact all we really managed to accomplish was to teach a gang of religiously-minded criminals how to operate effectively against to supposed "strongest military forces on the planet." And to utterly destroy America's reputation. And I guess, to enrich a few more wrinkly old white dudes. 

GOOD JERB REPUBLICOONTS
 
2020-10-29 4:57:23 PM  

lolmao500: Stop just saying no and charge them with conspiracy against democracy with mandatory 20 years in prison with no parole.

Attempted fascism should be a crime.


I agree, we need another crime for which they will not be charged.
 
2020-10-29 5:01:18 PM  

Closed_Minded_Bastage: If your ballot wasn't in the mailbox last Monday then you might as well drop it off at your county offices.


THIS.

The envelope is just going to the county clerk's office anyway, right?  I know people who went down and handed it to them in person.  Nobody mentioned having to wait in line.
 
2020-10-29 5:03:08 PM  
"Democrats and their allies have generally favored judicially ordered voting accommodations against the backdrop of the coronavirus pandemic. But the GOP and their allies say that by relaxing state voting restrictions, judges have unlawfully taken the management of elections away from state legislatures."


Democrats and their allies have generally favored counting every vote possible. But the GOP and their allies would prefer if only white male landowners votes were counted.
 
2020-10-29 5:16:20 PM  
This shirt makes me nervous but they are being consistent, no?
 
2020-10-29 5:20:32 PM  

Wing Kong Exchange Day Trader: This shirt makes me nervous but they are being consistent, no?


It is because the last several years have given us PTSD.
 
2020-10-29 5:22:44 PM  

quatchi: Shall I even bother guessing how it shook out?

*click*

fta: "The court's three most conservative justices - Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch and Samuel Alito - would have granted the Republican request. Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who joined the bench Tuesday, took no part in considering the case."

So... no then.

For my next trick I will predict how ACB will vote on this next time it comes up.

Yes, cos wizard. -_-


If she's really the originalist she pretends to be, she votes no.

SCOTUS will absolutely not take a case adequately decided on state grounds.
 
2020-10-29 5:24:47 PM  

SMB2811: In other election-related disputes, the Supreme Court let stand a three-day mail ballot due date extension in Pennsylvania. But the justices rejected a Democratic push for a similar extension in Wisconsin, leaving the Nov. 3 deadline intact.

Nice to see the Supreme Court acting in a coherent manner.


Cases like these are decided based on the laws of the state they originated in.

If the PA law allowed an extension and the Wisconsin law did not, then that's how it plays out.

The Court is there to make things legal, not logical.
 
2020-10-29 5:25:28 PM  
If your mailed ballot isn't marked as recorded by election day, you should be able to go in and vote on a provisional ballot.
 
2020-10-29 5:27:47 PM  
Yeah, NC Republicans have been struggling with the concept for a while now.

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2020-10-29 5:30:07 PM  

SMB2811: In other election-related disputes, the Supreme Court let stand a three-day mail ballot due date extension in Pennsylvania. But the justices rejected a Democratic push for a similar extension in Wisconsin, leaving the Nov. 3 deadline intact.

Nice to see the Supreme Court acting in a coherent manner.


In both cases, they upheld the law as written in those states.
 
2020-10-29 5:46:51 PM  

Wing Kong Exchange Day Trader: This shirt makes me nervous but they are being consistent, no?


The "precedent" such as it is that they are enforcing is that whatever rules are in place...say 6 months out from the election have to be the rules you run the election by, late changes "cause confusion" and that's bad.  SO even if they find a particular set of voting rules wrong or even illegal they'll let them stand and say "better luck next time"
 
2020-10-29 5:49:22 PM  
Anybody else getting this creepy ad?
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2020-10-29 5:50:43 PM  
Voting is their biggest enemy right now.
 
2020-10-29 6:09:22 PM  

Dimensio: jake3988: Dimensio: Honestly, I am surprised that Republicans are trying to stop ballot counting this early.

I would expect them to wait until the initial reports on the night of the election and then decide, on a state-by-state basis, whether states should continue to accept ballots postmarked on or before election day that continue to arrive in the mail -- with them arguing that states where Republicans won should stop accepting any ballots and states where Democrats won should continue to accept ballots until the last possible moment.

Yeah, but how do you even know WHO that would impact?

There's a not insignificant chance it could unintentionally hurt republicans.  You have no idea who's waiting until the last second.  It could be dems, it could be the gop, it could be a roughly equal batch of lazy people from both sides.

Sure, democrats use mail-in more than republicans, but if it was a big enough difference that it would hurt democrats in a somewhat meaningful way... wouldn't that by its very definition mean that the democrats are so far ahead it wouldn't matter anyway?

I'm just trying to figure out the dumbass logic here.

Hence my confusion. The maximum Republican strategy is hold off until November 4, then immediately argue that any state with Republicans in the lead stop counting incoming ballots while any state with Democrats in the lead keep accepting them (as they have nothing to lose in those states).

As it is, even if they won all of their "stop counting after November 3" lawsuits they might still have to go back to court to whine that they need their own victory overturned should election night returns favor the Democrats.


they are only going after states that currently have a small democratic lead. there's no difference.
 
2020-10-29 6:16:25 PM  
Love the headline subby.
 
2020-10-29 6:26:28 PM  
SCOTUS: Look, can you at least wait until Auntie Amy gets her seat adjusted and comfortable before we steal this election for you?
 
2020-10-29 7:29:02 PM  

Drank_the_40_water: Anybody else getting this creepy ad?
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I don't think I have this year, but I've gotten them before.

Did they actually custom print those with Google Maps or is it just generic?
 
2020-10-29 7:43:00 PM  
Well, a few MAGAts are rejecting keg bro. Heck, one even wants his prayers back!

/didn't know you could issue a recall order on prayers.

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2020-10-29 8:19:56 PM  
So odd that the State's rights and only the Constitution text matters seem to have an opinion that the SCOTUS should rule on elections and support the idea that vote counting stops at midnight on Election Day.

Yes, because in the 1788 until 1789 Election, you know the first one, they took months to ensure the will of the people they allowed to vote was recognized ans verified.

farking clown shoes.
 
2020-10-29 9:00:49 PM  
"Stop hitting yourself!"
 
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