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2020-10-29 2:23:59 PM  
Womp Womp
 
2020-10-29 2:26:52 PM  
My money is now speech.  STOTUS said so, the crazy irresponsible bastages.

Have some of what I have to say.
 
2020-10-29 2:39:36 PM  
Well, the effort probably wouldn't work as well if it also didn't have backing effectively from people like Lou Dobbs.
 
2020-10-29 3:00:35 PM  
By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.
 
2020-10-29 3:06:09 PM  

HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.


I agree, which is why I'm not a big fan of the way they are doing it in S.C.

I just find it amusing that the likes of Lou Dobbs would probably help them out with it.
 
2020-10-29 3:07:09 PM  
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2020-10-29 3:18:01 PM  

HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.


I don't agree with it. And it should be illegal. But it isn't.

But I'm also not a fan of Democrats being forced to not use every tool in their arsenal.
 
2020-10-29 3:26:22 PM  

HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.


"Spoiler"
Kanye's largest positive approval group is lower education whites - that's not a voting group Trump wants votes peeled out of.
It's the kinda dumbass tactic only he would think is clever "We'll he's black right? so they'll vote for him!"
 
2020-10-29 3:26:44 PM  

Gubbo: HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.

I don't agree with it. And it should be illegal. But it isn't.

But I'm also not a fan of Democrats being forced to not use every tool in their arsenal.


Also this.

Dems should be trying to outlaw "dirty tricks/pool", but, while they are "in play", they shouldn't have their hands tied by the GOP using it but them not.

Although, is there an example of GOP in the past of pushing someone who has dropped out?  I know they'd push fringe candidates that are running (ie, Kayne technically currently, or Green candidates, etc) that would take away D votes, but, I'm not aware of pushing people who aren't actively running like this.
 
2020-10-29 3:27:58 PM  

HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.


Yes.  The two instances are exactly alike in every possible way.  Both sides are indeed equally bad.
 
2020-10-29 3:28:43 PM  

HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.


I hate it in both cases.
But I'm not planning on being too worked up about it, elections are basically Chicago street fight rules at this point.
 
2020-10-29 3:29:49 PM  

HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.


It's not fair when they fight back!
 
2020-10-29 3:32:18 PM  
Yeah, this might be a reasonable complaint if he was from a real political party whose people run because they genuinely believe in their ideals and that those ideals cannot be fulfilled from within the larger parties.  Like... if he was a communist or something.

The constitution party is a fake party that only exists to serve as a patsy to allow the Republican party to execute underhanded political maneuvers, though, so... fark off with your complaints that the wrong party is doing literally the one and only thing your party exists to do.  If you're going to intentionally make yourself a farking tool you don't get to complain about whose hand is on the handle, you seditious muppet.
 
2020-10-29 3:33:20 PM  
It's only a dirty trick when the Dems do it?

Teh lulz. ^_^
 
2020-10-29 3:34:29 PM  

HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.


There's a world of difference between Republicans paying someone to run as a third party and staffing their campaign with professionals to siphon off votes, and Democrats saying "don't vote for this third party candidate".

But honestly? fark em. They can cry all they want.
 
2020-10-29 3:35:26 PM  

HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.


Well at least Harrison is smarter than 75% of Fark in knowing how to manipulate third parties for D's benefit. Most Farkers are too lace curtain to ever even consider using them for their benefits.
 
2020-10-29 3:35:58 PM  

tinderfitles: HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.

There's a world of difference between Republicans paying someone to run as a third party and staffing their campaign with professionals to siphon off votes, and Democrats saying "don't vote for this third party candidate".

But honestly? fark em. They can cry all they want.


What he said.
 
2020-10-29 3:37:35 PM  
Always love to hear that Citizen's United ruling is working out so well for the Republicans.

They forgot the first rule of lawsuits:  Be careful what you ask for... you just might get it!
 
2020-10-29 3:37:46 PM  
Can we please leave their dicks out of this, Subby?
 
2020-10-29 3:39:00 PM  

HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.


"Our side" hasn't been credibly accused of committing fraud in order to get the 3rd party candidate on the ballot. "Our side" isn't taking advantage of the obvious instability of Mr. West. In conclusion, fark off with this BSAB BS.
 
2020-10-29 3:40:10 PM  

HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.


Doesn't coordinating between the two presidential campaigns violate federal election law?
 
2020-10-29 3:40:47 PM  
Done in one
 
2020-10-29 3:41:24 PM  
They aren't wrong, bank rolling a third party in a close race is a dirty trick.

Generally used by the GOP.
 
2020-10-29 3:43:02 PM  
Yet another case study for Ranked Choice Voting.
 
2020-10-29 3:44:48 PM  
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Don't look at me. I'm bushed.
 
2020-10-29 3:47:05 PM  
Hey, what's going on in this thread?

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2020-10-29 3:48:08 PM  

dletter: Gubbo: HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.

I don't agree with it. And it should be illegal. But it isn't.

But I'm also not a fan of Democrats being forced to not use every tool in their arsenal.

Also this.

Dems should be trying to outlaw "dirty tricks/pool", but, while they are "in play", they shouldn't have their hands tied by the GOP using it but them not.

Although, is there an example of GOP in the past of pushing someone who has dropped out?  I know they'd push fringe candidates that are running (ie, Kayne technically currently, or Green candidates, etc) that would take away D votes, but, I'm not aware of pushing people who aren't actively running like this.


As I recall, Trump himself pushed Bernie after Bernie dropped out (in 2016).
 
2020-10-29 3:54:11 PM  

HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.


One side is fascists.
The other side is ... not fascists.
 
2020-10-29 3:54:55 PM  
Get farked
 
2020-10-29 3:59:37 PM  

HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.


That seems like a false dichotomy to me.

This is a GOP tactic they've been using for decades. I'm not fine with it, I don't like it, and I would like to change our system to disincentivize it, and encourage more plurality in elections.

But that isn't happening between now and Tuesday. I'm 100% fine with turning Republicans' own tactics against them. In fact, I very much want to Democratic party to stop using the high road as a suicide pact. And the only problem the GOP has with it is of the dishonest, "Hey, you can't hit me back" variety - and fark them, and fark anybody else who wants to hold Republicans to no standards and Democrats to unmeetable ones.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. In more common terms, don't start shiat and there won't be shiat.

Or as I understand they put in Florida:

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2020-10-29 4:13:04 PM  
This is brilliant.  Eat shait, Lindsey.  LOL
 
2020-10-29 4:13:13 PM  
I highly approve of Harrison's ads that truthfully point out there is a much more conservative candidate than Graham still on the ballot.
/them's just the facts.
 
2020-10-29 4:21:29 PM  
Why won't Democrats grow a spine act stop taking the high road?

No, not like THAT!
 
2020-10-29 4:23:33 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Why won't Democrats grow a spine act stop taking the high road?

No, not like THAT!


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2020-10-29 4:26:33 PM  
We learned from watching you.
 
2020-10-29 4:29:55 PM  

dletter: Gubbo: HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.

I don't agree with it. And it should be illegal. But it isn't.

But I'm also not a fan of Democrats being forced to not use every tool in their arsenal.

Also this.

Dems should be trying to outlaw "dirty tricks/pool", but, while they are "in play", they shouldn't have their hands tied by the GOP using it but them not.

Although, is there an example of GOP in the past of pushing someone who has dropped out?  I know they'd push fringe candidates that are running (ie, Kayne technically currently, or Green candidates, etc) that would take away D votes, but, I'm not aware of pushing people who aren't actively running like this.


Didn't some R-candidate in Missouri die during campaign season and the Rs pushed on the candidate's wife as his proxy? I think that's the one where Claire McCaskill won.
 
2020-10-29 4:33:31 PM  

dericwater: dletter: Gubbo: HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.

I don't agree with it. And it should be illegal. But it isn't.

But I'm also not a fan of Democrats being forced to not use every tool in their arsenal.

Also this.

Dems should be trying to outlaw "dirty tricks/pool", but, while they are "in play", they shouldn't have their hands tied by the GOP using it but them not.

Although, is there an example of GOP in the past of pushing someone who has dropped out?  I know they'd push fringe candidates that are running (ie, Kayne technically currently, or Green candidates, etc) that would take away D votes, but, I'm not aware of pushing people who aren't actively running like this.

Didn't some R-candidate in Missouri die during campaign season and the Rs pushed on the candidate's wife as his proxy? I think that's the one where Claire McCaskill won.


Democratic Governor Mel Carnahan died in a plane crash three weeks before election day.  The people of Missouri still thought his wife was a better choice than incumbentJohn Ashcroft.

John Ashcroft lost a race to a dead guy
 
2020-10-29 4:50:16 PM  

mongbiohazard: Or as I understand they put in Florida:

A crocodile don't hunt
Him's victims.
They hunts him.
All he do is.
Open he jaws

-- courtesy Ishmael Reed

 
2020-10-29 4:51:35 PM  

tinderfitles: HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.

There's a world of difference between Republicans paying someone to run as a third party and staffing their campaign with professionals to siphon off votes, and Democrats saying "don't vote for this third party candidate".

But honestly? fark em. They can cry all they want.


Wait, aren't the dem's trying to get "GOPers tired of Graham" to vote for the 3rd party?
 
2020-10-29 4:53:21 PM  

Leishu: dletter: Gubbo: HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.

I don't agree with it. And it should be illegal. But it isn't.

But I'm also not a fan of Democrats being forced to not use every tool in their arsenal.

Also this.

Dems should be trying to outlaw "dirty tricks/pool", but, while they are "in play", they shouldn't have their hands tied by the GOP using it but them not.

Although, is there an example of GOP in the past of pushing someone who has dropped out?  I know they'd push fringe candidates that are running (ie, Kayne technically currently, or Green candidates, etc) that would take away D votes, but, I'm not aware of pushing people who aren't actively running like this.

As I recall, Trump himself pushed Bernie after Bernie dropped out (in 2016).


True... I guess at this point if the GOP hadn't did it before, Trump has done it.
 
2020-10-29 5:14:32 PM  

HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.



Dems can play the same games Republicans can, it's just that Republicans will go that extra mile of trying to pervert the law. farking trash.
 
2020-10-29 5:19:50 PM  

yakmans_dad: mongbiohazard: Or as I understand they put in Florida:

A crocodile don't hunt
Him's victims.
They hunts him.
All he do is.
Open he jaws

-- courtesy Ishmael Reed


lol, that reads like Bayou haiku.
 
2020-10-29 5:27:15 PM  
WTF?!

Why is every single headline that gets greened about this straight up lying about it?

Harrison is not running ads for the 3rd party candidate. His campaign literally ran an ad that said, "Don't vote for this guy. He's too conservative."

Can you guess who actually did come in and run ads in support of the 3rd party candidate explicitly to try to siphon votes away from Graham? The farking Lincoln Project, that's who! Actual, you know, Republicans.

So you can fark right off with this BSAB false narrative you're trying to push here.
 
2020-10-29 5:40:16 PM  

Konlii: Harrison is not running ads for the 3rd party candidate. His campaign literally ran an ad that said, "Don't vote for this guy. He's too conservative."


Well.... that is kind of a "sneaky" ad... it is like a "backhanded compliment" to that guy (Ie, "This guy is more conservative than Graham!") aimed at VERY right GOPers who have taken the "Lou Dobbs" approach to Graham to make them go "Oh, well, I'll show you and I WILL vote for him!".   It doesn't say in the ad "Don't vote for this guy, because he isn't actually running", right?
 
2020-10-29 5:47:42 PM  

dletter: Konlii: Harrison is not running ads for the 3rd party candidate. His campaign literally ran an ad that said, "Don't vote for this guy. He's too conservative."

Well.... that is kind of a "sneaky" ad... it is like a "backhanded compliment" to that guy (Ie, "This guy is more conservative than Graham!") aimed at VERY right GOPers who have taken the "Lou Dobbs" approach to Graham to make them go "Oh, well, I'll show you and I WILL vote for him!".   It doesn't say in the ad "Don't vote for this guy, because he isn't actually running", right?


And the "buzz for a guy to the right of the incumbent" is not only happening in South Carolina.  In the Indiana Governors race here, the Libertarian candidate is getting a lot more buzz here because there is a decent number of right-wingers who don't like how Holcomb has pushed the mask mandate and other COVID related matters.  One poll had the libertarian at 24%, although other polls have him more around 10%, which is still more than 2-3x what the LP usually gets in a gov. election.

I don't believe I've seen the Dem's run any ads trying to promote right-wingers to vote LP though (the Dem campaign as far as I can tell has been really lethargic overall, especially considering this wrinkle).
 
2020-10-29 6:04:54 PM  

dletter: Konlii: Harrison is not running ads for the 3rd party candidate. His campaign literally ran an ad that said, "Don't vote for this guy. He's too conservative."

Well.... that is kind of a "sneaky" ad... it is like a "backhanded compliment" to that guy (Ie, "This guy is more conservative than Graham!") aimed at VERY right GOPers who have taken the "Lou Dobbs" approach to Graham to make them go "Oh, well, I'll show you and I WILL vote for him!".   It doesn't say in the ad "Don't vote for this guy, because he isn't actually running", right?


Sure it's a little sneaky, but let's be honest: it barely registers on the sneak-o-meter™ at this point.

Maybe my sneak-o-meter™ has gotten out of alignment after being exposed to too much conservative shenanigans, but the bottom line is that the 3rd party guy is still on the ballot and I guarantee he will get votes (though probably not very many), so it's legit to run ads against him.
 
2020-10-29 6:05:50 PM  

Konlii: WTF?!

Why is every single headline that gets greened about this straight up lying about it?

Harrison is not running ads for the 3rd party candidate. His campaign literally ran an ad that said, "Don't vote for this guy. He's too conservative."

Can you guess who actually did come in and run ads in support of the 3rd party candidate explicitly to try to siphon votes away from Graham? The farking Lincoln Project, that's who! Actual, you know, Republicans.

So you can fark right off with this BSAB false narrative you're trying to push here.


And you know what? I'm glad the LP is doing that. And I wouldn't even be mad at Harrison if he did it too.

Either everyone can do it or no one can do it. And the GOP has been doing this shiat for decades, who do people think boosts doomed Green Party candidates in states across the nation? Rick Wilson from the Lincoln Project himself has said that he has done that when running campaigns against Democrats. Well, now he's using the GOP's own tactics against them... and we're supposed to care? If it's wrong now wasn't it wrong when they did it against Democrats? Did these GOP people crying crocodile tears about it being wrong right now call it out and demand their campaigns stop doing it when they did it to us? What's to stop the GOP from doing it again - as they are likely doing with Lieberman in GA right farking now?

ALL - and I mean every single last tiny particle - of GOP complaints about Democratic tactics always come down to, "How dare you fight back? You should just let us win." Fark 'em. Their pathetic, insincere mewling should only encourage us.
 
2020-10-29 6:52:27 PM  

dletter: Gubbo: HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.

I don't agree with it. And it should be illegal. But it isn't.

But I'm also not a fan of Democrats being forced to not use every tool in their arsenal.

Also this.

Dems should be trying to outlaw "dirty tricks/pool", but, while they are "in play", they shouldn't have their hands tied by the GOP using it but them not.

Although, is there an example of GOP in the past of pushing someone who has dropped out?  I know they'd push fringe candidates that are running (ie, Kayne technically currently, or Green candidates, etc) that would take away D votes, but, I'm not aware of pushing people who aren't actively running like this.


Up here in the 2nd District in MN, they had to stop pushing the 3rd party candidate. He died.
 
2020-10-29 7:23:20 PM  
Why the electron microscope? Is this about the size of their wieners?
 
2020-10-30 10:52:05 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: HugeMistake: By the way, if you're OK with this, you should also be OK with the Republicans running Kanye West as a spoiler.

Unless, of course, it's only OK when our side does it.

Yes.  The two instances are exactly alike in every possible way.  Both sides are indeed equally bad.


Welp, there it is. The dumbest possible take you could possibly find.

Hint: Both sides don't have to be equally bad for both of these actions to be bad. You're basically saying "the Trump administration looted a billion dollars from the nation, so it's OK if Biden steals $10 million, and anybody who says otherwise is saying both sides are equally bad."

What I'm saying is: you're an idiot.
 
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