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2020-10-29 3:09:07 PM  

Social Justice Warlock: Okay, okay. Honest question here.

But, having expressed my "credentials" if you will, I can't help but wonder, could there be something nefarious going on? *Could* the votes be manipulated or packed?

More people voting before the 3rd than voted all together in 2016? That's more than impressive, it's almost suspect. I mean, if the numbers (including those on November 3rd) bear this out (meaning total rallies are such that more than 65% of Texas voted), I'll be reassured... but for the moment, I'm kinda worried.


As another pointed out, telling Texans (and many Americans) they CAN'T do something  and creating roadblocks to them doing something is not a good way of trying to stop Texans from voting because they are going to figure out a way to prove you wrong. Also Texas demographics have been shifting for years of influx of people from Cali (expensive everything & high taxes there). Also many pollsters have algorithms that use past results to gauge actual voter turn out (likely verses registered voters) they may simply be missing out on some serious voter enthusiasm. I think the voter enthusiasm and turn out is real but I like everyone else in 2020 am basically just huddled in front of my screen all day, so what the hell do I know.
 
2020-10-29 3:13:10 PM  

Social Justice Warlock: Okay, okay. Honest question here.

I'll preface it by pointing out I'm not American (I'm your neighbor up north), and am left of even most Canadians. I'm for legalizing all drugs, socialized care, universal income, all that stuff. So I'm not here to gaslight anyone or pretend anyone's vote wouldn't matter...

But, having expressed my "credentials" if you will, I can't help but wonder, could there be something nefarious going on? *Could* the votes be manipulated or packed?

I realize and am well aware that no voter fraud on any serious reasonable scale has ever been credibly demonstrated. And I understand (and am thankful for) the great desire of many to oust the orange plague rat  currently in the White House. But these numbers are just out of this world.

More people voting before the 3rd than voted all together in 2016? That's more than impressive, it's almost suspect. I mean, if the numbers (including those on November 3rd) bear this out (meaning total rallies are such that more than 65% of Texas voted), I'll be reassured... but for the moment, I'm kinda worried.

I want this to be real. I want Texas to go blue, the Senate to have a Super Majority of Dems, the numbers to be so overwhelming that Republicans everywhere see no other out other than denouncing Trumpism, and all who coddled it.

I want all of that. I'm even for a reform of your SC to mitigate the current bad faith packing of the courts.

But current polls, both at a state level (in Texas and other states) and nationally, although they give Biden a comfortable lead, don't seem to correspond to what is being seen at voting places (in terms of lines, and enthusiasm).

Anyway. Just wanted people in Texas (and other tossup states) to reassure me, I suppose.

/VOTE. All of you. I'm not sure what's going on but that's not meant to play on fears that you shouldn't vote. Do it.
//only if you're voting blue, though (otherwise you're a bad human and you should feel bad)


Because of our electoral college most Americans presidential votes are essentially worthless. In a normal year non competitive states such as texas have voting rates at or below 50%. That leaves a hell of a lot of room for raising the turnout if things are controversial or high profile. 2020 has been the most contentious and high profile election of my life by a huge margin. It's been essentially the only news item in america since the start of August. Essentially everyone who has any following is urging people to vote. The people who hate politics have an opinion this year. You can see yourself the expanded voting is real because you can see the lines at polling places long before the final day. People are irate on both sides and they all know the county is at stake here. Anyone who cared enough to vote in 2016 is voting again this year, almost anyone who cares enough to ever turn on any media of any kind has been urged to vote in 2020. I'm pretty sure there are hermits in off grid cabins in the swamps that are voting this year.
 
2020-10-29 3:17:38 PM  

whidbey: freakdiablo: redonkulon: AkaDad: With 5 days remaining, Asian voters have already cast more ballots than they did in the entirety of the 2016 general election in Georgia, North Carolina, and Texas.

They clearly are responding to Trump's kind words towards this demographic group.

It seems impossible to be that any ethnic group could close their eyes, cover their ears, and pinch their nose to vote for Trump.

Sure, I get people hate abortion (making it illegal will not stop abortions just drive it underground where it isn't safe again) and want to keep as much of their money as possible (ignoring the fact that the Republican tax cuts mostly went to the top 1 and 0.1% and many of us 'peasants' and poors had increases  all while increasing the deficit by billions <gasp>).

But he is a literal threat to the republic of America. How any individual could be so mindlessly indoctrinated regardless of race is beyond me.

And still Trump panders to his throngs of maskless assholes that a Biden presidency will be all doom and gloom. All evidence of Democratic leadership points to the contrary you dumb farks.

I know plenty.  The common thread, and I wish I was making this up as I'm including blood relatives in this, seems to be "I'm voting for Trump because he's not a Democrat."

Going off track here a little but this is my main issue with the two party system.  You get way too many people "voting x cuz they ain't y" as opposed to "voting z because they actually like z."

Something to think of if you're ever accused of voting for Biden simply because "he's not Trump."


Not really. You're making a false equivalence between a single politician and an entire party. Voting against a candidate is how FPTP strategic voting works, and that's quite separate from irrationally hating the only party that's actually trying to help you and everyone in it.
 
2020-10-29 3:18:02 PM  
Biden can still win without Florida and PA and Ohio.  That is what I am feeling good about right now.  Trump has a good shot at winning all 3 of those states, but it wouldn't make him a lock.

If Biden wins Texas, I will run naked through the streets singing and cheering.  And laughing too.

MASSIVE BLUE WAVE

82 days, 9 hours, 42 minutes, 2 seconds until farker leaves.
 
2020-10-29 3:51:15 PM  

redonkulon: AkaDad: With 5 days remaining, Asian voters have already cast more ballots than they did in the entirety of the 2016 general election in Georgia, North Carolina, and Texas.

They clearly are responding to Trump's kind words towards this demographic group.

It seems impossible to be that any ethnic group could close their eyes, cover their ears, and pinch their nose to vote for Trump.

Sure, I get people hate abortion (making it illegal will not stop abortions just drive it underground where it isn't safe again) and want to keep as much of their money as possible (ignoring the fact that the Republican tax cuts mostly went to the top 1 and 0.1% and many of us 'peasants' and poors had increases  all while increasing the deficit by billions <gasp>).

But he is a literal threat to the republic of America. How any individual could be so mindlessly indoctrinated regardless of race is beyond me.

And still Trump panders to his throngs of maskless assholes that a Biden presidency will be all doom and gloom. All evidence of Democratic leadership points to the contrary you dumb farks.


Yes but have you thought of just how many goddamn babies they can make all those sluts push out now?

We'll be stepping over them in the streets.
 
2020-10-29 5:30:00 PM  

desertratt: This is how the first 12 months of a Harris/Biden administration will go:

Biden implement's the gun plan on his website
The Supreme Court strikes it down
Biden begins to pack the court

At this point, 20 something states will decide to leave the Union or the shooting part of CW2 will start


How did that work out for you last time?  The complexity and technology of war has increased incredibly since the Civil War.  That's going to put dumb States at an even greater disadvantage than before.

Wars become about logistics, supply changes and manufacturing more than anything else.  If you think gun ownership/proficiency will give red states any advantage - you are a fool.  Democratic nations like Europe in Canada will rally behind blue states.

Red states if they even have a chance will have to ally themselves with countries like China or Russian.  Don't even think China would want a part of it and Russia has the GDP of Italy.  What about Mexico? Anyways if the south ever secedes again, they should let them.
 
2020-10-29 6:22:08 PM  
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2020-10-29 6:53:31 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: when the president is up for reelection, people aren't this eager to vote because they are happy with what's been going on


And god doesn't send plagues, ice storms and hurricanes when she's happy with the pharaoh.
 
2020-10-30 12:26:32 AM  

bainsguy: Norquist Vagprobe: Still ain't going blue.

honestly, the fact that the GOP is having to pour money into a state they're supposed to easily carry so they can barely squeak out a win is enough this go around. they're pulling money from other battleground states to maintain their lead in what's usually a GOP stronghold. that Democratic momentum will absolutely matter in the midterms two years from now.


Do you remember the Democratic momentum in 2008?

Do you remember what happened in 2010?
 
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