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(Washington Post)   Trump, ever the philosopher, is beginning to ponder what it might mean if he ends up becoming a "loser" on election day, although you'd think he'd have already come to terms with this particular question by this point in his life   (washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2020-10-29 11:17:02 AM  
I guess he forgot about

Trump University
Trump Airlines
Trump Mortgage
Trump Casinos
Trump MAGAzine
Trump Vodka
Trump Steak
Trump, I'm Eric


Has the fat orange loser ever succeeded at ANYTHING except swindling other people's money and being born to a rich daddy?
 
2020-10-29 11:24:41 AM  
Remember for a while after he 'won' in 2016 that he was doing the media circuit lying that he won on "his first try" for POTUS?

He might still claim that, who knows.

My point is, he's lost a presidential election before. So this shouldn't be anything new to him.
 
2020-10-29 11:40:26 AM  
SpectroBoy:


Has the fat orange loser ever succeeded at ANYTHING except swindling other people's money and being born to a rich daddy?

NO.
 
2020-10-29 11:48:24 AM  

NateAsbestos: Remember for a while after he 'won' in 2016 that he was doing the media circuit lying that he won on "his first try" for POTUS?

He might still claim that, who knows.

My point is, he's lost a presidential election before. So this shouldn't be anything new to him.


"I didn't run in 2020, that was all Mike Pence"
 
2020-10-29 11:57:31 AM  
It is October.  Mayhap he should read the Raven.
 
2020-10-29 12:03:14 PM  

SVC_conservative: NateAsbestos: Remember for a while after he 'won' in 2016 that he was doing the media circuit lying that he won on "his first try" for POTUS?

He might still claim that, who knows.

My point is, he's lost a presidential election before. So this shouldn't be anything new to him.

"I didn't run in 2020, that was all Mike Pence"


I fully expect him to claim that by the end of November. And every single one of his supporters will buy into it.
 
2020-10-29 12:09:39 PM  
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2020-10-29 12:12:07 PM  
I'm a MAGAt, bay-beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee,
So why don't you kill meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
 
2020-10-29 12:14:27 PM  

Myrdinn: It is October.  Mayhap he should read the Raven.


Never happen. His name doesn't appear on every page and there aren't any pictures.
 
2020-10-29 12:16:20 PM  
One thing is for certain when he loses the election: it won't be his fault.
 
2020-10-29 12:16:36 PM  

Myrdinn: It is October.  Mayhap he should read the Raven.


This one

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2020-10-29 12:17:00 PM  
Deep Thoughts. With Donald Trump.
 
2020-10-29 12:17:16 PM  
the fact that it took a couple hundred thousand people dying to possibly barely tip the election away from this farking buffoon winning another four years in office is shameful beyond words.

just pathetic.
 
2020-10-29 12:17:34 PM  

SpectroBoy: I guess he forgot about

Trump University
Trump Airlines
Trump Mortgage
Trump Casinos
Trump MAGAzine
Trump Vodka
Trump Steak
Trump, I'm Eric


Has the fat orange loser ever succeeded at ANYTHING except swindling other people's money and being born to a rich daddy?


Trump is a Legend in his own mind.
 
2020-10-29 12:17:57 PM  
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2020-10-29 12:18:30 PM  
By Toluse OlorunnipaOct. 29, 2020 at 6:00 a.m. EDTAdd to listTrailing in the polls and with little time left to change the trajectory or closing themes of the presidential race, President Trump has spent the final days of the campaign complaining that the coronavirus crisis is getting too much coverage - and openly musing about losing.
Trump has publicly lamented about what a loss would mean, spoken longingly of riding off into the sunset and made unsubstantiated claims that voter fraud could cost him the election. He has sarcastically threatened to fire state officials if he doesn't win and excoriated his rival Joe Biden as someone it would be particularly embarrassing to lose to.
"If I lose, I will have lost to the worst candidate, the worst candidate in the history of presidential politics," Trump said at an Oct. 17 campaign rally in Janesville, Wis. "If I lose, what do I do? I'd rather run against somebody who's extraordinarily talented, at least, this way I can go and lead my life."
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The president in Goodyear. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)
The president, who said at the same rally that "we're not going to lose, we're going to win," has certainly not abandoned his showman's approach to the campaign trail. But his unscripted remarks bemoaning a potential loss - and preemptively explaining why he might suffer one - offer a window into his mind-set as he barnstorms the country in an attempt to keep himself from becoming the one thing he so derisively despises: a loser.
Trump has told rallygoers he had the presidential race won until the pandemic hit, and he has accused media outlets of focusing on the ongoing health crisis to hurt him politically.
"Covid, Covid, Covid is the unified chant of the Fake News Lamestream Media," he tweeted Wednesday. "They will talk about nothing else until November 4th., when the Election will be (hopefully!) over. Then the talk will be how low the death rate is, plenty of hospital rooms, & many tests of young people."
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Trump arrives Monday for a campaign rally in Allentown, Pa. (Alex Brandon/AP)
Trump has previously complained that Biden could win the race and then receive the benefit of glowing media coverage for overseeing the implementation of Trump administration policies on the coronavirus and other issues.
The president's comments reflect his long-running failure to shift the nation's focus from the rapidly worsening pandemic in recent months. As he has tried to build his campaign on other themes - including cracking down on racial-justice protests, making unsubstantiated corruption allegations against Biden and attacking the former vice president over energy policy - the coronavirus has continued to dominate American lives and news headlines.
His critics say Trump's own inconsistent handling of the pandemic is one of the main reasons it has remained a key issue in the campaign for several months. With Election Day approaching, the virus is surging across the country, with record cases in recent days and growing hospitalizations and deaths. More than 227,000 Americans have died.
ADTrump's own hospitalization earlier this month after he was infected not only took him off the campaign trail for several days but also led more Americans to believe he was not taking the deadly virus seriously enough, polls show.
Despite spending four days at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda, Trump quickly returned to the campaign trail and continued holding the kind of mass gatherings that his own health officials have described as "superspreader" events. He has also attacked scientists and journalists for focusing on the deadly virus.
Trump has falsely called media reporting on the pandemic an effort "to change our great early election numbers" and said it "should be an election-law violation."
The rallies have themselves become a symbol of his "reckless" approach to governing, said Guy Cecil, who leads Priorities USA, a liberal group that has blanketed the airwaves with advertisements against Trump on the pandemic.
AD"He's making people less favorable and less open to voting for him," Cecil said Wednesday. "He is actually hurting himself by traveling around the country holding these rallies."
Trump campaign spokesman Tim Murtaugh attacked public polls showing Trump behind Biden and predicted victory.
"The mainstream media has spent the last four years trying to destroy and defeat President Trump, so no one should put any stock in polls paid for by these same news organizations," Murtaugh said in a statement Wednesday. "We know where he stands in the states that will decide this election and we are confident in his reelection."
Biden, who has eschewed large rallies for smaller events, has sought to contrast his approach to the pandemic with Trump's.
During a speech Wednesday in Wilmington, Del., Biden referenced a Trump rally in Omaha at which thousands of supporters were left stranded waiting for buses in near-freezing weather. He called it "an image that captures President Trump's whole approach to this crisis."
AD"He gets his photo op, and then he gets out," Biden said. "He leaves everyone else to suffer the consequences of his failure to make a responsible plan. It seems like he just doesn't care much about it. And the longer he's in charge, the more reckless he gets."
Trump has talked about the virus as something that has upended his own political fortunes, while downplaying its impact on the country. At packed rallies in which few people wear masks, he has repeatedly claimed the United States was "rounding the turn" on the pandemic - despite evidence to the contrary.
At his rallies, the president speaks more about the political ramifications of the pandemic than about its devastating impact on millions of Americans.
"You know, until the plague came in from China, I didn't even have a race," he said Tuesday at a rally in West Salem, Wis., describing the election as a choice between a "Trump boom and a Biden lockdown."
Trump, Biden push opposing pandemic strategies in final days of campaign
But parts of Wisconsin are already facing the prospect of shutting down as the virus circulates at record levels. On the day of Trump's visit, Wisconsin recorded 71 covid-19 deaths, the most of any day since the beginning of the pandemic. The following day, the University of Wisconsin announced it was canceling football-related activities for at least seven days because of an outbreak among students.
ADTrump's approach may end up hurting him politically in a key state, said David Wasserman, the House editor for the Cook Political Report.
"The president's decision to downplay the severity of COVID at multiple late October rallies in Wisconsin might be the biggest display of tone-deafness I've ever seen, and I cover hundreds of campaigns a cycle," Wasserman wrote Tuesday on Twitter.
Even as he has complained about unfair treatment, Trump has told supporters that he is in strong position to win reelection. The boasts have doubled as a reassurance to his political base and a basis for explaining away a potential loss.
As he has repeatedly brought up losing in recent days, he has said that only external forces could cause such an outcome. With record numbers of Americans voting early and by mail, he has seized on absentee ballots as one explanation for a potential loss.
AD"Who's sending them? Who's receiving them? Who's bringing them back? Who's signing them? It's ridiculous," Trump said at a rally Monday in Allentown, Pa. "It's the only way we can lose, in my opinion, is massive fraud. And that's what's happening because all over the country you're seeing it. Thousands and thousands of ballots."
There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud, and several Republicans have openly said Trump could lose fairly - with some almost predicting that he will.
During an Oct. 15 committee hearing, Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) said Democrats "have a good chance of winning the White House." In leaked comments from a phone call with constituents, Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) warned of a "Republican bloodbath" in November and specifically attacked Trump on a number of issues. Speaking to CNBC on Oct. 9, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said the GOP could be in for "a bloodbath of Watergate proportions" in which they lose the White House and the Senate.
ADPublic polling backs up the concerns of those Republican senators. Trump trails Biden nationally by a wide margin, and his deficit in several swing states remains significant.
Stock market slide muddles Trump's economic message days before 2020 election
Still, Trump has told reporters that a "red wave" is soon coming that would sweep him into another unexpected victory.
But that hasn't stopped him from considering the alternative - sometimes quite publicly.
"And maybe I'll lose because they'll say I'm not a nice person," Trump told conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh on Oct. 9. "I think I am a nice person. I help people. I like to help people."
During the rally in Allentown, Trump looked over at a truck and mused about hopping in and leaving his presidential life behind
"I'd love to do it. Just drive the hell out of here," he said. "Just get the hell out of this. I had such a good life. My life was great."
Trump has said his references to losing and leaving the White House are made sarcastically. But they also reveal his insecurities about potentially going down in history as a one-term president, said Amanda Carpenter, a former aide to Cruz and a Trump critic who wrote a book titled "Gaslighting America: Why We Love It When Trump Lies To Us."
"He always tells you what he's thinking, right?" she said. "To him, it is embarrassing if you lose this to Biden in particular because Biden stands for things like empathy, experience and patience - which in Trump's world are considered defects."
Trump, who has openly mocked Biden's mental acuity and political skills, has said losing to him would be especially devastating.
"Could you imagine if I lose? My whole life, what am I going to do?" the president told supporters earlier this month in Macon, Ga. "I'm going to say I lost to the worst candidate in the history of politics. I'm not going to feel so good. Maybe I'll have to leave the country. I don't know."
 
2020-10-29 12:19:34 PM  
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2020-10-29 12:19:36 PM  

SpectroBoy: I guess he forgot about

Trump University
Trump Airlines
Trump Mortgage
Trump Casinos
Trump MAGAzine
Trump Vodka
Trump Steak
Trump, I'm Eric


Has the fat orange loser ever succeeded at ANYTHING except swindling other people's money and being born to a rich daddy?


What repercussions has he ever faced due to losing?

He has still lived a life of luxury even with massive business failures and astronomical debt.

Hundreds of millions in loans forgiven? sure!
Business goes bankrupt while he loots it and runs away with the cash while leaving creditors hanging? sure!
Pay fraud settlements while still making more money from committing the fraud than the cost of settlement? sure!

This election is the first time in his life that he might actually have to face the real prospect of actual trouble if he loses.
 
2020-10-29 12:19:55 PM  
But, if you look at this big red map Trump actually did amazingly well because
 
2020-10-29 12:20:44 PM  
He will never be a loser in his mind. There will always be someone else or something else at fault.
 
2020-10-29 12:20:52 PM  
He should be counting his blessingS if the only thing that he can be called after this election is "loser" and not "inmate 655321".
 
2020-10-29 12:20:57 PM  

johnny queso: the fact that it took a couple hundred thousand people dying to possibly barely tip the election away from this farking buffoon winning another four years in office is shameful beyond words.

just pathetic.


Words cannot capture how embarrassed I am as an American that this orange asshole even stands a chance.  What f*cking contemptible pieces of shiat my countrymen have turned out to be.
 
2020-10-29 12:21:10 PM  

mattj1984: But, if you look at this big red map Trump actually did amazingly well because


Why does that map have Sharpee all over it?? :/
 
2020-10-29 12:22:17 PM  
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2020-10-29 12:24:29 PM  
He did the same thing in 2016. The no-good rigged election was going to go to Hillary and it was going to be up to the 2nd Amendment people to fix it. He fully expected to lose and get everyone to listen to him screech for 8 years on his new TV channel.
 
2020-10-29 12:25:22 PM  

SpectroBoy: I guess he forgot about

Trump University
Trump Airlines
Trump Mortgage
Trump Casinos
Trump MAGAzine
Trump Vodka
Trump Steak
Trump, I'm Eric


Has the fat orange loser ever succeeded at ANYTHING except swindling other people's money and being born to a rich daddy?


And that's not even a complete list.
 
2020-10-29 12:30:42 PM  

theteacher: By Toluse OlorunnipaOct. 29, 2020 at 6:00 a.m. EDTAdd to listTrailing in the polls and with little time left to change the trajectory or closing themes of the presidential race, President Trump has spent the final days of the campaign complaining that the coronavirus crisis is getting too much coverage - and openly musing about losing.
Trump has publicly lamented about what a loss would mean, spoken longingly of riding off into the sunset and made unsubstantiated claims that voter fraud could cost him the election. He has sarcastically threatened to fire state officials if he doesn't win and excoriated his rival Joe Biden as someone it would be particularly embarrassing to lose to.
"If I lose, I will have lost to the worst candidate, the worst candidate in the history of presidential politics," Trump said at an Oct. 17 campaign rally in Janesville, Wis. "If I lose, what do I do? I'd rather run against somebody who's extraordinarily talented, at least, this way I can go and lead my life."
[washingtonpost.com image 300x200]The president in Goodyear. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)
The president, who said at the same rally that "we're not going to lose, we're going to win," has certainly not abandoned his showman's approach to the campaign trail. But his unscripted remarks bemoaning a potential loss - and preemptively explaining why he might suffer one - offer a window into his mind-set as he barnstorms the country in an attempt to keep himself from becoming the one thing he so derisively despises: a loser.
Trump has told rallygoers he had the presidential race won until the pandemic hit, and he has accused media outlets of focusing on the ongoing health crisis to hurt him politically.
"Covid, Covid, Covid is the unified chant of the Fake News Lamestream Media," he tweeted Wednesday. "They will talk about nothing else until November 4th., when the Election will be (hopefully!) over. Then the talk will be how low the death rate is, plenty of hospital rooms, & many ...


Is Mexico supposed to pay for that?
 
2020-10-29 12:31:52 PM  
Rarely is the question asked: are our President learning?
 
2020-10-29 12:31:56 PM  

born_yesterday: johnny queso: the fact that it took a couple hundred thousand people dying to possibly barely tip the election away from this farking buffoon winning another four years in office is shameful beyond words.

just pathetic.

Words cannot capture how embarrassed I am as an American that this orange asshole even stands a chance.  What f*cking contemptible pieces of shiat my countrymen have turned out to be.


every morning for four years there has been a brief moment as i slip back to consciousness when i am blissful. then i remember and the embarrassment returns.

for the last two mornings it's been blissful...embarrassed...hey, at least the dodgers won the series.

i take consolation where i can find it.
 
2020-10-29 12:33:05 PM  
MAGA is just another brand he'll run into the ground.
 
2020-10-29 12:33:28 PM  

UltimaCS: He did the same thing in 2016. The no-good rigged election was going to go to Hillary and it was going to be up to the 2nd Amendment people to fix it. He fully expected to lose and get everyone to listen to him screech for 8 years on his new TV channel.


With what money will this new show be produced?

Dude is broke
 
2020-10-29 12:36:26 PM  

exqqqme: UltimaCS: He did the same thing in 2016. The no-good rigged election was going to go to Hillary and it was going to be up to the 2nd Amendment people to fix it. He fully expected to lose and get everyone to listen to him screech for 8 years on his new TV channel.

With what money will this new show be produced?

Dude is broke


Conning his marks, as always.

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2020-10-29 12:37:26 PM  
I, like so many of my fellow Americans, could give a rat's ass about President Trump's* inner struggles with his own mortality, his success or lack thereof. I do wonder, from time to time, how an individual so self-absorbed and lacking in empathy, so obviously selfish and dangerous, could have made it to adulthood without someone putting a couple rounds into him. He would have liked that. It would have been on the front page.
 
2020-10-29 12:40:53 PM  

SpectroBoy: I guess he forgot about

Trump University
Trump Airlines
Trump Mortgage
Trump Casinos
Trump MAGAzine
Trump Vodka
Trump Steak
Trump, I'm Eric


Has the fat orange loser ever succeeded at ANYTHING except swindling other people's money and being born to a rich daddy?


Trump's entire existence has been like playing Poker but he's always been the big stack, even when je gambles and loses, he just gets another big stack from somewhere.

All his ideas and tactics are born from that position.
 
2020-10-29 12:44:18 PM  

SpectroBoy: I guess he forgot about

Trump University
Trump Airlines
Trump Mortgage
Trump Casinos
Trump MAGAzine
Trump Vodka
Trump Steak
Trump, I'm Eric


Has the fat orange loser ever succeeded at ANYTHING except swindling other people's money and being born to a rich daddy?


All those are someone else's fault.  They dropped the ball

Trump University - Not enough idiots with credit
Trump Airlines - Someone told me there'd be a million new passengers
Trump Mortgage - You should never invest in real estate
Trump Casinos - I had a casino so I opened a bigger one next to it.  That's what McDonalds does
Trump MAGAzine - As soon as this internet thing dies it will rebound
Trump Vodka - Turns out it's 'vodak'  I would have made a killing if it was 'vodak'
Trump Steak - Someone suggested the slogan "You can't beat my meat"  
Trump, I'm Eric - Sent the guy out for a condom.  Thought twenty five cents would buy a good condom.  He could have expensed for a better condom.  I wouldn't have paid it but he could have done the paperwork.
 
2020-10-29 12:45:16 PM  

SpectroBoy: I guess he forgot about

Trump University
Trump Airlines
Trump Mortgage
Trump Casinos
Trump MAGAzine
Trump Vodka
Trump Steak
Trump, I'm Eric


Has the fat orange loser ever succeeded at ANYTHING except swindling other people's money and being born to a rich daddy?


Problem is, for all of those things he had a dissociation arc; a mental buffer that allowed him to pretend that none of those things were actually a reflection on him.

He'd whip up investor interest, slap his name on a crappy product, and pimp it hard for a while, then go onto the next big thing. If Trump hired people who, like him, were substance-less but image-obsessed to run these brands, it could be months - or years - before it was obvious that any of these were complete flop. By then Trump had a new source for his narcissistic supply, each of the failures was just "one of my many businesses," and, really, he wasn't involved much, he just put his name on it.

The presidency is different. He cares about it, inasmuch as it's the main thing he's now known for, he really wants people to consider him the greatest Winner-Leader-President America has ever seen, and he has actually worked on it - maybe not well, but he has had to focus on it with more effort than he's used to expending. Moreover, campaigning for re-election is difficult, it's tiring, it's time consuming, and the act of expending effort makes you want a thing. It's basic human psychology. Which means that he really needs to win this, mentally speaking.

What I'm saying is that we have to ride out out the unparalleled narcissistic rage between the time Trump realizes he lost and the point where he melts into an Olympic swimming pool-sized bowl of sour grapes and self-pity and goes on to whine somewhere else.
 
2020-10-29 12:51:11 PM  
fta: "Trump has previously complained that Biden could win the race and then receive the benefit of glowing media coverage for overseeing the implementation of Trump administration policies on the coronavirus and other issues."

Knowing Trumps penchant for projection makes this bit quite instructive.

Trump inherited a booming economy from Obama.

Every stat he brags about now is a continuation of a trend that started after Obama and Biden turned the dying economy wrought by the previous GOP administration around.

But of course that is not how Trump frames it.

He pretends he is the one who inherited a shiat economy and turned it around.

So now he is pretending that Joe will try to do the same thing with his "accomplishments" including the utter fail that was his Covid response.

Very instructive indeed.

Sure hope somebody makes this point at some point.

/I don't really count.
//I am largely imaginary.
///See: Bio.
 
2020-10-29 12:53:39 PM  

johnny queso: the fact that it took a couple hundred thousand people dying to possibly barely tip the election away from this farking buffoon winning another four years in office is shameful beyond words.

just pathetic.


This. I will never get over how many of my fellow Americans are total shiatheels.
 
2020-10-29 12:59:40 PM  
As it looks like his strategy is to cast doubt on the voting process while denouncing media that does not bend to his objective, then he is counting on losing on Election Day.  Mitch McConnell has express-laned so many confirmations as well as three SC Justices, Trump and Co can (and most likely will) contact the results if they are not in their favor and do so SUCCESSFULLY.
Trump and Co are now the proverbial cockroaches.  If, somehow, they are not removed now, the US will never be rid of them.
 
2020-10-29 1:07:51 PM  
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2020-10-29 1:09:17 PM  
Hey, look at the bright side.  America isn't projected to go over 10 million Covid cases until a few days after the election is over.

Two days specifically
 
2020-10-29 1:14:52 PM  
He'll have to ask Biden..

He's surging in the poll.
Democratic voter fraud getting shiat down..

Biden is toast
 
2020-10-29 1:19:02 PM  
How do we get this earworm stuck in Trump's disease-ridden noggin'???

Soy un perdedor...

Beck - Loser
Youtube YgSPaXgAdzE
 
2020-10-29 1:24:22 PM  
You get the SC to invalidate the vote, of course. It's not like the Democrats would fight back.
 
2020-10-29 1:29:37 PM  
Trump has previously complained that Biden could win the race and then receive the benefit of glowing media coverage for overseeing the implementation of Trump administration policies on the coronavirus

I'm pretty sure Biden's NOT going to try to take credit for Trump's "policy".
 
2020-10-29 1:32:15 PM  
Trump, ever the philosopher, is beginning to ponder what it might mean if he ends up becoming a "loser" on election day

If he had any self-knowledge at all, he'd be pondering this every morning.
 
2020-10-29 1:33:34 PM  

SpectroBoy: I guess he forgot about

Trump University
Trump Airlines
Trump Mortgage
Trump Casinos
Trump MAGAzine
Trump Vodka
Trump Steak
Trump, I'm Eric


Has the fat orange loser ever succeeded at ANYTHING except swindling other people's money and being born to a rich daddy?


You forgot MAGA, the fact that they kept that slogan means that they clearly think they failed at it during Trump's first and hopefully only term.
 
2020-10-29 1:46:49 PM  

captainN: He'll have to ask Biden..

He's surging in the poll.
Democratic voter fraud getting shiat down..

Biden is toast


You either have a very weird sense of humor, or you're posting from an alternate-reality.
 
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2020-10-29 2:29:47 PM  

captainN: He'll have to ask Biden..

He's surging in the poll.
Democratic voter fraud getting shiat down..

Biden is toast


For a two week old you type very well.
 
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