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2020-10-29 10:37:01 AM  
I'm on my local Nextdoor. It's mostly postings about lost/found pets, requests for any info when someone's car is broken into, announcements about local fundraisers, and occasionally a Karen will rant (those are shut down pretty quickly). I'm sure it's different in other places, but it really is like a community bulletin board, here. There certainly is capacity for the village idiot to shiatpost all day, but I generally save it for Fark.
 
2020-10-29 12:03:42 PM  
Still, users criticize the company for becoming, instead, a platform for all sorts of pettiness, vitriol, and offensive behavior among neighbors.

Every internet website is now a platform for pettiness, vitriol, and offensive behavior because that is what the framework of society now encourages and promotes.  The grander nature of a media platform where the Poltab spends all day getting angry at imagined versions of their enemies, using the internet as a feedback loop that reinforces the frustrations of day-to-day life, is merely one part of that.

Note that Fark is a very different place than it was twenty years ago, even though the format of Fark has not really changed, the Fark server is currently on display in the Antiquity wing of the Smithsonian, the anthropologists are trying to figure out the programming language that Fark currently operates on.

So the reason that every internet website invariably descends into civility is because they are one tiny part of a platform which, on the whole, promotes exactly that, a place where everyone now uses the internet for everything, gets their facts from unpublished sources, screaming at anonymous walls of text in massive disposable communities, while me and my criminal buddies continue to make you work longer hours for less pay.

But let's be honest, that's what the Republicans HAVE to do, they don't force you to work longer and harder hours because we are repulsive humans who derive pleasure from controlling others, or derive pleasure from playing for the Donkey Kong World Record, but with our bank accounts.  We do it because you would literally starve to death if you were not given purpose and agency in your lives.

The fact you cannot recognize the joy and thrill of stacking shelves for eight dollars an hour is not a problem with the system, it's a problem with YOU.  There's a reason that gamers have invented to the famous and iconic phrase "GIT GUD".  It's because you need to do exactly that.  GIT GUD.
 
2020-10-29 1:04:49 PM  
My wife reads it to keep up on local stuff; and the big debate now is: should kids be trick-or-treating???

Can't believe it's a damn debate, but here we are...
 
2020-10-29 1:46:45 PM  

Combustion: My wife reads it to keep up on local stuff; and the big debate now is: should kids be trick-or-treating???

Can't believe it's a damn debate, but here we are...


Your kids shouldn't be trying to trick anyone.  Get them under control or I'm going to treat them to the Hellfire Missiles.
 
2020-10-29 1:49:20 PM  

Mike_LowELL: Combustion: My wife reads it to keep up on local stuff; and the big debate now is: should kids be trick-or-treating???

Can't believe it's a damn debate, but here we are...

Your kids shouldn't be trying to trick anyone.  Get them under control or I'm going to treat them to the Hellfire Missiles.


At least this year, I won't feel guilty for eating all the Reese's. And the Snickers.
 
2020-10-29 1:53:57 PM  

Combustion: At least this year, I won't feel guilty for eating all the Reese's. And the Snickers.


Just make sure that after you eat all the candy corn, you imagine a lie to your neighbor, claim that your water was shut off by the authorities and that you need to use their bathroom.

He's gonna be so pissed when his toilet doesn't work anymore, lol.
 
2020-10-29 2:50:10 PM  
I never had the app but would log into the site sometimes. It was less racism around here and more anti homeless.
 
2020-10-29 2:51:54 PM  

beezeltown: I'm on my local Nextdoor. It's mostly postings about lost/found pets, requests for any info when someone's car is broken into, announcements about local fundraisers, and occasionally a Karen will rant (those are shut down pretty quickly). I'm sure it's different in other places, but it really is like a community bulletin board, here. There certainly is capacity for the village idiot to shiatpost all day, but I generally save it for Fark.


Ditto.
 
2020-10-29 2:51:56 PM  

beezeltown: I'm on my local Nextdoor. It's mostly postings about lost/found pets, requests for any info when someone's car is broken into, announcements about local fundraisers, and occasionally a Karen will rant (those are shut down pretty quickly). I'm sure it's different in other places, but it really is like a community bulletin board, here. There certainly is capacity for the village idiot to shiatpost all day, but I generally save it for Fark.


I'd say there is a decent bit of discussion on mine (NIMBYism and such), but it definitely does add more value than facebook. I don't think that it is something that a private company should run, but there is more relevant content when you are sharing an online space with someone that is geographically close.
 
2020-10-29 2:52:09 PM  
Pretty sure the guy across the street is running an unlicensed car repair business out of his garage to make ends meet during the pandemic but IDGAF because I mind my own goddamn business and he seems cool.
 
2020-10-29 2:52:20 PM  
For the love of god, stay off NextDoor. Nothing on it but shrieking paranoid people threatening and accusing everyone who sneezes near their house and on their street.
 
2020-10-29 2:52:24 PM  
This is how you find out if your neighbor is a racist.
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2020-10-29 2:52:41 PM  
Dear Nextdoor,

There is a cat in my front yard.

A Concerned Neighbor
 
2020-10-29 2:56:36 PM  

beezeltown: I'm on my local Nextdoor. It's mostly postings about lost/found pets, requests for any info when someone's car is broken into, announcements about local fundraisers, and occasionally a Karen will rant (those are shut down pretty quickly). I'm sure it's different in other places, but it really is like a community bulletin board, here. There certainly is capacity for the village idiot to shiatpost all day, but I generally save it for Fark.



From anecdotes from family, the problem comes when the local moderator is the shiatposter, or at least has a particular axe to grind.  It basically devolves into a perpetual version of the worst HOA meeting you can imagine.
 
2020-10-29 2:57:26 PM  

beezeltown: I'm on my local Nextdoor. It's mostly postings about lost/found pets, requests for any info when someone's car is broken into, announcements about local fundraisers, and occasionally a Karen will rant (those are shut down pretty quickly). I'm sure it's different in other places, but it really is like a community bulletin board, here. There certainly is capacity for the village idiot to shiatpost all day, but I generally save it for Fark.


Ours is like that...  A little political stuff, but not much. All the stuff you said, and posts about Biden yard signs being stolen as well, but it isn't a political Thunderdome in my neck of the woods, it's mostly civil. More like Nextdoor was obviously intended to be. We have a restaurant right down the street that actually opened in like July and has been doing pretty well, and I think a lot of that is from all of the people posting on Nextdoor about how badly the place was needed, how good the food is, how nice the people are, etc... So it's not all like this. And definitely no racism that I've seen. I like the app overall, don't go there a ton, but as far as social media goes, I'd take it over FB or Twatter any day of the week.
 
2020-10-29 2:58:16 PM  
i only joined to keep tabs on if my house gets mentioned for some reason

other than that have no use for it.
 
2020-10-29 2:58:46 PM  
God. It is the farking worst. Every post is about ***those people***.

Those people:

Have not lived there for 10 years.
Are not white.
Are not obviously Christian.
Are not obviously heterosexual.
Are not married.
Do not have children.
Do not own homes.

Nextdoor users are like good republicans. They say they aren't racist. Except for they blindly hate everyone who isn't exactly like them. Which includes people of different races. Which makes them racist.
 
2020-10-29 2:58:49 PM  
Our old neighborhood had a NextDoor thing. We were younger than the average resident in that neighborhood by a good 20-30 years.

Complains on NextDoor:

- someone put a house up for rent; did anyone else want to try to stop it? Renters might move in and you know how they are.

- a "prostitute and her pimp" were "casing houses" in the neighborhood. To be extra sneaky, they were dressed up like get-out-the-vote people wearing high-vis vests and carrying clipboards! Is there no low to which they will not stoop?!

- be careful in your front yard. People from the next neighborhood over (many of whom listen to rap) will often walk on our sidewalks! I can only imagine what sort of depravity they were planning, with their sinister walking. God save us!

- if you walk your dog, don't let them pee in grass. It's not your grass!

- (my favorite) Democrats hacked their computer to intimidate them because they were voting for Trump! (Turns out they had saved a web page as a "web folder" and when they looked at the "computer code file (HTML) in the new folder on their desktop" it was obviously scary computer hacker code because).
 
2020-10-29 3:01:16 PM  
My neighborhood is just one person posting about selling dogs she breeds.

But I actually talk to my nearby neighbors, so I don't really need the app.
 
2020-10-29 3:05:16 PM  
Every other post is people biatching about their signs being stolen. And the one dude on my street that's complaining is probably a lying liar. He's just salty because he's surrounded by houses with Biden signs.

There are more signs in our neighborhood this year than any I can remember. I think everyone wants to let each other know where they stand.
 
2020-10-29 3:05:29 PM  

LovesToSpooge: This is how you find out if your neighbor is a racist.
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I have a VERY conservative but otherwise nice neighbor that I'm really surprised doesn't have a sign out. I'm not sure if he doesn't want to get shiat for it or what(majority minority city that went for Hillary). I moved in later than 2018 so I don't know if this is normal for them but he isn't shy about being conservative. This is someone that has large American and Texas flags flying from his house so he likes a big statement.
 
2020-10-29 3:05:54 PM  
Just signed up. Lol, some one posted about the cars I broke into last week.
 
2020-10-29 3:06:41 PM  
We joined that and it's pretty much, like an earlier poster said, lots of lost pets but beyond that there is a massive amount of cars broken into and packages stolen posts and so on from the older members. We've lived in this neighborhood for 25 years and have never encountered any of that and searching the local crime database doesn't really show it either so I'm thinking it's more them watching Fox and freaking out when they misplace something or the mail carrier is not white (or has long hair - damn hippies). I avoid it now as much as Facebook.
 
2020-10-29 3:09:21 PM  

Mr. Tweedy: We joined that and it's pretty much, like an earlier poster said, lots of lost pets but beyond that there is a massive amount of cars broken into and packages stolen posts and so on from the older members. We've lived in this neighborhood for 25 years and have never encountered any of that and searching the local crime database doesn't really show it either so I'm thinking it's more them watching Fox and freaking out when they misplace something or the mail carrier is not white (or has long hair - damn hippies). I avoid it now as much as Facebook.


You forgot all the "suspicious vehicle" posts.
 
2020-10-29 3:09:55 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Dear Nextdoor,

They're is a cat is my front yard.

A Concorned Negihbor


IFYP, Nextdoor-style
 
2020-10-29 3:10:04 PM  
"Love thy neighbor; but don't cut down your hedges."

- Ben Franklin
 
2020-10-29 3:10:22 PM  

bluejeansonfire: For the love of god, stay off NextDoor. Nothing on it but shrieking paranoid people threatening and accusing everyone who sneezes near their house and on their street.


I check it once a week or so because a number of streets and building projects get posted there. It's much easier than sorting through the entire city's public meetings for such things.

There's a lot of found pet, missing pet, misplaced package stuff but I was kind of blown away by the level of paranoia in my neighborhood. I mean, these people need meds, therapy, and maybe a nice long vacation in a locked facility paranoia. Toss in a little racism and a lot of classism and I kind of hate 40-50% of the people who live here. Oh, and did I mention how many of them are freakishly cheap?

Though I do love wandering into a level five freakout and typing the equivalent of "calm the fark down" when someone discovers something exotic like coyotes (the animal not the trafficker) or cub scout fundraising existing in the area.

The latest was some mental case trying to get everyone together to install a community locked mailbox. I had a real good time explaining postal regulations and the fact that Captain Paranoia was totally allowed to purchase and install his very own locking unit in his own goddamned yard.
 
2020-10-29 3:12:23 PM  

OptimisticCynicism: Mr. Tweedy: We joined that and it's pretty much, like an earlier poster said, lots of lost pets but beyond that there is a massive amount of cars broken into and packages stolen posts and so on from the older members. We've lived in this neighborhood for 25 years and have never encountered any of that and searching the local crime database doesn't really show it either so I'm thinking it's more them watching Fox and freaking out when they misplace something or the mail carrier is not white (or has long hair - damn hippies). I avoid it now as much as Facebook.

You forgot all the "suspicious vehicle" posts.


Jesus, God, we had a guy park his camper on the street while staying with relatives a couple of summers ago. (It was maybe a two week stretch) By the time he left the neighbors had a full length novel composed with all their theories on what was happening in the camper.
 
2020-10-29 3:12:40 PM  

WhackingDay: Every other post is people biatching about their signs being stolen. And the one dude on my street that's complaining is probably a lying liar. He's just salty because he's surrounded by houses with Biden signs.

There are more signs in our neighborhood this year than any I can remember. I think everyone wants to let each other know where they stand.


There's a dude on mine that posted a bigfoot-style blurry picture of a blah woman stealing his farking Trump sign. 40 comments expressing how horrible it is that people "on both sides" are so uncivil now, and not one farking person asking why this guy had a security camera pointed directly at his farking yard sign.
 
2020-10-29 3:13:45 PM  

Liadan: OptimisticCynicism: Mr. Tweedy: We joined that and it's pretty much, like an earlier poster said, lots of lost pets but beyond that there is a massive amount of cars broken into and packages stolen posts and so on from the older members. We've lived in this neighborhood for 25 years and have never encountered any of that and searching the local crime database doesn't really show it either so I'm thinking it's more them watching Fox and freaking out when they misplace something or the mail carrier is not white (or has long hair - damn hippies). I avoid it now as much as Facebook.

You forgot all the "suspicious vehicle" posts.

Jesus, God, we had a guy park his camper on the street while staying with relatives a couple of summers ago. (It was maybe a two week stretch) By the time he left the neighbors had a full length novel composed with all their theories on what was happening in the camper.


Honestly that sounds pretty funny.
 
2020-10-29 3:14:51 PM  
There's one guy who can apparently walk dogs, babysit kids, teach Chinese, wash cars, and do your taxes. I appreciate his hustle.
 
2020-10-29 3:16:42 PM  
In the last Nextdoor thread, someone mentioned that their majority-Hispanic neighborhood had a cheeky "suspicious white kids walking down the street" post that exploded. I'd love to give that a try.
 
2020-10-29 3:17:15 PM  

Mr. Tweedy: We joined that and it's pretty much, like an earlier poster said, lots of lost pets but beyond that there is a massive amount of cars broken into and packages stolen posts and so on from the older members. We've lived in this neighborhood for 25 years and have never encountered any of that and searching the local crime database doesn't really show it either so I'm thinking it's more them watching Fox and freaking out when they misplace something or the mail carrier is not white (or has long hair - damn hippies). I avoid it now as much as Facebook.


Keep in mind, it's more than just your neighborhood. It's usually a few neighborhoods in a regional area of your city. So your neighborhood is a subset of the larger zone covered by the app. They still aren't farther than a few miles away from you, but it's not really just a 10 block radius...
 
2020-10-29 3:17:18 PM  
The same thing happened with Patch.  Our Patch page turned into a Qanon cesspool and the company pulled the plug on our town.  We have two Facebook community forum pages:  the open one and the invitation only cesspool/echo chamber where you get tossed for disagreeing with the moderators, of which you can guess their political persuasion.
 
2020-10-29 3:20:37 PM  
I'd heard of Nextdoor but had never been on, so I checked it just now to see what I could glean without signing up or downloading the app. Seemed pretty tame, posts looking for a handyman or just neighbors saying hi, nothing confrontational. My town is pretty small, so it only has a few areas to choose from, one of them being an avenue in town named Harrison. Harrison Avenue is pretty quiet and parts of it have some beautiful and very well-kept old homes but apparently something else is happening there as well:

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2020-10-29 3:21:23 PM  

WhackingDay: Every other post is people biatching about their signs being stolen. And the one dude on my street that's complaining is probably a lying liar. He's just salty because he's surrounded by houses with Biden signs.

There are more signs in our neighborhood this year than any I can remember. I think everyone wants to let each other know where they stand.


Lotta pranks probably gonna happen this Halloween in your neighborhood.
 
2020-10-29 3:21:37 PM  
My god, as a shut-in weirdo single guy in a family neighborhood, who wears black and has a Chthulu fish bumper sticker on his car, I can only imagine what people are saying about me.  I'm kinda tempted to find out.
 
2020-10-29 3:24:32 PM  
50% of the posts on every NextDoor group in California: "HUGE coyote on Maple Street!"

49.9% of the posts on every NextDoor group everywhere: "Suspicious car/truck/person on Maple Street!"

Gladys Kravitz round her way into the Internet.
 
2020-10-29 3:26:39 PM  

Combustion: My wife reads it to keep up on local stuff; and the big debate now is: should kids be trick-or-treating???

Can't believe it's a damn debate, but here we are...


No, they should not. COVID is spread by respiratory droplets. Smelling feet requires one to remove their mask which could spread more COVIDs.
 
2020-10-29 3:27:21 PM  
Find out about my neighbors' what???

My neighbors'

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2020-10-29 3:33:45 PM  

toraque: My god, as a shut-in weirdo single guy in a family neighborhood, who wears black and has a Chthulu fish bumper sticker on his car, I can only imagine what people are saying about me.  I'm kinda tempted to find out.


Are you a pedophile Satanist, or a Satanic pedophile? Learn these things and more from the lady who thinks the mailman is stealing her internet.
 
2020-10-29 3:34:28 PM  

toraque: My god, as a shut-in weirdo single guy in a family neighborhood, who wears black and has a Chthulu fish bumper sticker on his car, I can only imagine what people are saying about me.  I'm kinda tempted to find out.


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Yeah, that makes sense, I guess.
 
2020-10-29 3:36:17 PM  
Signed up for it when I first moved to the neighborhood in 2016 to get a feel for the area. Everything was pretty benign back then. Lost pets, yard sales, people asking for recommendations for car repair or Thai food.

Then, the 2018 election happened and the wingnuts arrived. Lots of 5g conspiracy posts, petty complaints, a guy who volunteered to drive around his matte black Charger with a Punisher logo on the hood looking for "suspicious activity" (he was promptly shut the fark down, thanks neighbors).

It kept getting worse, and then the trolls arrived. I've been around the interwebs long enough to know the life cycle of a forum and could tell it was time to abandon ship. Haven't looked at it in over a year and don't feel like I'm missing anything.
 
2020-10-29 3:37:31 PM  
How else will I know if someone thinks they saw a coyote or a black man near my garage?
 
2020-10-29 3:38:43 PM  
I dropped off NextDoor earlier this year when it filled up with 5G conspiracy theorists complaining about the new cell tower, followed by ultra-paranoid anti-mask shamers.  (I'm not talking about regular precautions around other people, but "oh my god, I saw a guy by himself on a wilderness trail going for a run and he's contaminating the neighborhood" stuff.)
 
2020-10-29 3:40:06 PM  

toraque: My god, as a shut-in weirdo single guy in a family neighborhood, who wears black and has a Chthulu fish bumper sticker on his car, I can only imagine what people are saying about me.  I'm kinda tempted to find out.


Check it, and if they aren't posting about you, MAKE them post about you.

/Be the evil.
//Believe in the me that believes in you.
///Triple slash says earn the Cthulhu sticker.
 
2020-10-29 3:40:48 PM  
Of all the flaws that many people have, racism may be the least secret. Racists generally have no compunction about shoehorning some stupid racist shiat into a conversation that isn't about race. Kinda like religious nutjobs and abortion.
 
2020-10-29 3:40:51 PM  

Ambitwistor: I dropped off NextDoor earlier this year when it filled up with 5G conspiracy theorists complaining about the new cell tower, followed by ultra-paranoid anti-mask shamers.  (I'm not talking about regular precautions around other people, but "oh my god, I saw a guy by himself on a wilderness trail going for a run and he's contaminating the neighborhood" stuff.)


Pro-mask shamers, I mean ... but taken to 11.
 
2020-10-29 3:43:38 PM  
In suburban St. Louis, it ain't that secret...
 
2020-10-29 3:45:04 PM  
Want some light entertainment? Go to a random nextdoor post and add, "Well that seems suspicious."
 
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