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2020-10-28 11:47:11 PM  
Sarah Jessica was cute, but that was a turrible movie.
 
2020-10-28 11:49:00 PM  
I have never once said that, subby. But even so, stop ordering people around
 
2020-10-28 11:50:09 PM  
I didn't know it was a thing.
 
2020-10-28 11:56:09 PM  
Subby can go fark themselves.
 
2020-10-29 12:05:52 AM  
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I was going to make a post telling you vapid cretins to debunk the article.  So much for that.  You're still all vapid cretins, however.  Nothing will change the fact you are vapid cretins.  The most vapid kind of cretin.
 
2020-10-29 12:10:10 AM  
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2020-10-29 12:10:39 AM  
I enjoyed it as a kid, and kids enjoy it.
If you expected some Oscar noms, then you might write this shiatty article.
 
2020-10-29 12:10:55 AM  
"Let me begin with an apology. I am fully aware of how an article like this comes off - contrarian and bitter."

Hey, that's our gig!
 
2020-10-29 12:24:36 AM  
Not everything has to be high art.
 
2020-10-29 1:52:21 AM  
H-Street - Hokus Pokus (1989)
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fark off. It's a classic.
 
2020-10-29 1:56:08 AM  

NateAsbestos: I have never once said that, subby. But even so, stop ordering people around


Me neither. Stop telling people to stop ordering people around.
 
2020-10-29 2:32:59 AM  
I wasn't ten years old when that piece of shiat came out, so I always recognized it as a turd.
 
2020-10-29 3:02:05 AM  
Horrible movie, but the soundtrack was awesome.

Focus - Hocus Pocus
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2020-10-29 3:37:54 AM  
Amok! Amok! Amok! oooof!
8.5.2
 
2020-10-29 3:45:25 AM  
From what little I've seen of the film, the combination of Bette Midler,costuming, over-the-top acting and music seem to give the movie a distinct appeal to theater geeks, past, present and future.

I am friends with a number of them, but I am not one myself. Only seen bits and pieces of the movie on TV occasionally. It never compelled me to actually watch it in full.
 
2020-10-29 4:14:54 AM  
There's been a deliberate effort to make it into a yearly event. I find that a little disturbing.
 
2020-10-29 4:32:49 AM  
Sorry you don't like it but being pissed off that some people like a decades-old movie says more about you than the movie.
 
2020-10-29 4:34:43 AM  

haknudsen: Sorry you don't like it but being pissed off that some people like a decades-old movie says more about you than the movie.


But how else will people know how edgy and not-mainstream subby and TFA's author are?
 
2020-10-29 4:38:42 AM  

Wookie_Jesus: Amok! Amok! Amok! oooof!
8.5.2


You mean Amok! Amok! Amok! Hoof!

/I know, beating a dead horse with this post.
//she was born in a Nelsonville, Ohio and not Fillydelphia, Pennsylvania like some people have claimed.
///out of the three Sanderson witch sisters, she was the least likely to give one a nightMARE.
 
2020-10-29 5:26:14 AM  
Is it Citizen Kane? No. But it's also not as horrid as Mars Needs Moms. I enjoyed it for Bette Midler's performance and a few bits such as the dark haired one flying on a vacuum cleaner and the scene where they think someone dressed as Satan actually is Satan and they go through his house. In his kitchen: "Behold: a torture chamber!" as they marvel at the array of culinary equipment.

In short: it's not high art but it's fun. Go back to the pretentious foreign film section if you want to argue about the unplumbed depths of the mixed allegories and which tenet of Marxism each character represents in some obscure Slavic art house project.
 
2020-10-29 5:42:41 AM  
I don't want to hate on it, but Paranorman, A Nightmare before Christmas, and Coraline are all better family Halloween movies.
 
2020-10-29 5:52:09 AM  
Watch out everybody, if you don't like this trash you are a communist!
 
2020-10-29 5:53:42 AM  

Devil's Advocaat: I don't want to hate on it, but Paranorman, A Nightmare before Christmas, and Coraline are all better family Halloween movies.


Then don't hate on it. I have no problems saying that I prefer chocolate ice cream without feeling some need to say that vanilla sucks.
 
2020-10-29 5:59:51 AM  

delathi: Devil's Advocaat: I don't want to hate on it, but Paranorman, A Nightmare before Christmas, and Coraline are all better family Halloween movies.

Then don't hate on it. I have no problems saying that I prefer chocolate ice cream without feeling some need to say that vanilla sucks.


What makes you think you have the authority to tell people what to do?
 
2020-10-29 6:01:50 AM  
There seems to be a push to make this movie a big Halloween thing, but it seems incredibly artificial to me.  It's like the Elf on the Shelf of Halloween traditions.  No, I've never seen it, and I'm pretty sure I was never the target demographic for it anyway.  It just seems rather sudden.
 
2020-10-29 6:05:35 AM  
Article author is a pretentious douche.
 
2020-10-29 6:10:00 AM  

Camus' Ghost: There seems to be a push to make this movie a big Halloween thing, but it seems incredibly artificial to me.  It's like the Elf on the Shelf of Halloween traditions.  No, I've never seen it, and I'm pretty sure I was never the target demographic for it anyway.  It just seems rather sudden.


The thing is, Hocus Pocus was never originally intended to be and wasn't marketed as a Halloween tradition like the stupid contrived elf thing was. Nor was Rocky Horror. Some people like to play those movies at their Halloween parties though.
 
2020-10-29 6:13:42 AM  
I don't like movies that portray females as anything other than sexual objects.
 
2020-10-29 6:20:31 AM  

NateAsbestos: I have never once said that, subby. But even so, stop ordering people around


But, ordering people around is what every single Fark thread does.
 
2020-10-29 6:20:56 AM  

devilEther: I don't like movies that portray females as anything other than sexual objects.


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You must love this movie
 
2020-10-29 6:27:10 AM  
The entire movie was an excuse for this scene.

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Good? Bad? It's like a dandelion, it needs no excuse.
 
2020-10-29 6:32:30 AM  
THANK YOU.

Millenials rightly give the Boomers shiat for that nostalgia bullshiat Christmas Story movie, then turn around and love this dumb crap and the Golden Girls.
 
2020-10-29 6:43:28 AM  
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2020-10-29 6:45:48 AM  

havocmike: THANK YOU.

Millenials rightly give the Boomers shiat for that nostalgia bullshiat Christmas Story movie, then turn around and love this dumb crap and the Golden Girls.


3 pm. Behind the elementary school. Bring a second.
 
2020-10-29 6:45:51 AM  
Well, I mean, it ain't no Cinema with a capital C, but whatever.

My biggest beef with it is that at the end, they really needed to have teenage boy bully victim, whatever his name is, stand up to the bullies, toe to toe, face to face, and make them back down instead of just handing him a cheap one-up on a silver platter. If you're going to put a subplot like that in your movie, do the god damned thing right and follow the farking formula. There's a reason it's a formula.
 
2020-10-29 6:57:53 AM  

bfh0417: NateAsbestos: I have never once said that, subby. But even so, stop ordering people around

But, ordering people around is what every single Fark thread does.


I feel like I constantly go back and forth between "Stop liking what i don't like" ironically and unironically.
 
2020-10-29 7:15:56 AM  

Devil's Advocaat: I don't want to hate on it, but Paranorman, A Nightmare before Christmas, and Coraline are all better family Halloween movies.


Coraline is a family film?


It's kind of like a PG rated Sinister.
 
2020-10-29 7:25:22 AM  

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Even though it's objectively a worse movie, I prefer Shock Treatment to Rocky Horror, and I don't care what other people think about that.

\RH was a bit of fun, but ST was prophetic. Plus, Jessica Harper > Susan Sarandon.
 
2020-10-29 7:27:41 AM  
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2020-10-29 7:32:13 AM  

CarnySaur: Actual Articles by the same Author:

'The Great British Baking Show' Is My Salvation
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Why Are All Of The Best Movies From 1999?
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Why Calling Women 'Basic" Needs to Stop


So, our Dear Author has realized that a strong opinion will bring out comments and that will result in hits, and that will boost her numbers.

Pretty sneaky, Dana...
 
2020-10-29 7:38:27 AM  

Flincher: Devil's Advocaat: I don't want to hate on it, but Paranorman, A Nightmare before Christmas, and Coraline are all better family Halloween movies.

Coraline is a family film?

It's kind of like a PG rated Sinister.


I don't like how Halloween has become more about fancy dress than horror. A kids' Halloween movie shouldn't be a regular horror movie with all the scary stuff taken out and replaced with sanitised, safe, 'fun'. It should be a movie where the scary stuff is based on the worries and fears children actually have.

One of my favourite horror movies is The Thing. But I don't think kids spend a lot of time worrying about the paranoia of shape changing aliens killing and replacing us one by one.

As always, Lessons from the Screenplay nails this better than I ever could.

How Coraline Borrows from Ancient Forms of Storytelling
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2020-10-29 7:39:00 AM  
I honestly didn't know this movie had become a thing.  I briefly recall it existing - but I don't recall anything special about it.
 
2020-10-29 7:45:42 AM  

delathi: Devil's Advocaat: I don't want to hate on it, but Paranorman, A Nightmare before Christmas, and Coraline are all better family Halloween movies.

Then don't hate on it. I have no problems saying that I prefer chocolate ice cream without feeling some need to say that vanilla sucks.


Thanks, I didn't. What I am doing, is wondering why an average movie has somehow gained the status of being 'the' nostalgic Halloween family movie when there are so many better ones.

I also prefer chocolate to vanilla, but I understand why vanilla is the default option for ice cream.

Hocus Pocus, not so much.

But, as I'm sure we would agree. It's not a terrible movie, and there are more choices available than loving or hating something.
 
2020-10-29 7:51:40 AM  
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Come on farkers. Where's the love for Witches?
 
2020-10-29 7:52:44 AM  
That's ok.  Not everyone gets camp.
 
2020-10-29 7:56:25 AM  

Devil's Advocaat: Flincher: Devil's Advocaat: I don't want to hate on it, but Paranorman, A Nightmare before Christmas, and Coraline are all better family Halloween movies.

Coraline is a family film?

It's kind of like a PG rated Sinister.

I don't like how Halloween has become more about fancy dress than horror. A kids' Halloween movie shouldn't be a regular horror movie with all the scary stuff taken out and replaced with sanitised, safe, 'fun'. It should be a movie where the scary stuff is based on the worries and fears children actually have.

One of my favourite horror movies is The Thing. But I don't think kids spend a lot of time worrying about the paranoia of shape changing aliens killing and replacing us one by one.

As always, Lessons from the Screenplay nails this better than I ever could.

[YouTube video: How Coraline Borrows from Ancient Forms of Storytelling]


It's one of the reasons that I love Guillermo del Toro. He and Gaiman both understand that faerie tales are supposed to be dark. Stephen King nailed it years ago, when he acknowledged at horror tales are the evolution of faerie tales to modern settings. Often tales of morality, With specific rules, and while foes can be implacable and terrible, most tell a tale where you can win the day if you're brave and true. Or lucky. But being selfish and a coward is a quick way to a bad end. And those are the same lessons that faerie tales teach. Be polite and respectful to strangers, don't be a dick just because you think you can, selfishness and mean-spiritedness will bite you on the ass. Because those were survival traits when dealing with strangers, and teaching those lessons early was a damn good idea if you didn't want to find your kids drowned by some traveling psycho who pitched a snotty kid off a bridge instead of just giving him directions.

Faerie tales should be a bit scary. That means there are stakes if the characters get it wrong. It means kids will pay attention to the lesson a lot better.
 
2020-10-29 7:57:06 AM  

Devil's Advocaat: delathi: Devil's Advocaat: I don't want to hate on it, but Paranorman, A Nightmare before Christmas, and Coraline are all better family Halloween movies.

Then don't hate on it. I have no problems saying that I prefer chocolate ice cream without feeling some need to say that vanilla sucks.

Thanks, I didn't. What I am doing, is wondering why an average movie has somehow gained the status of being 'the' nostalgic Halloween family movie when there are so many better ones.

I also prefer chocolate to vanilla, but I understand why vanilla is the default option for ice cream.

Hocus Pocus, not so much.

But, as I'm sure we would agree. It's not a terrible movie, and there are more choices available than loving or hating something.


the theory is that it was on one of the channels (ABC family I think?) every year during millennials childhood, so they as a generation got used to watching it and now consider it a classic.

I have to say, that fits me to a T. I watched it every year as a kid, sometimes more than once.
 
2020-10-29 8:01:33 AM  

CarnySaur: Actual Articles by the same Author:

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Hating Trump Doesn't Make A Man A Feminist
Why Calling Women 'Basic" Needs to Stop


Author needs to be put down for their own good
 
2020-10-29 8:08:32 AM  
hubiestubert:It's one of the reasons that I love Guillermo del Toro. He and Gaiman both understand that faerie tales are supposed to be dark. Stephen King nailed it years ago, when he acknowledged at horror tales are the evolution of faerie tales to modern settings. Often tales of morality, With specific rules, and while foes can be implacable and terrible, most tell a tale where you can win the day if you're brave and true. Or lucky. But being selfish and a coward is a quick way to a bad end. And those are the same lessons that faerie tales teach. Be polite and respectful to strangers, don't be a dick just because you think you can, selfishness and mean-spiritedness will bite you on the ass. Because those were survival traits when dealing with strangers, and teaching those lessons early was a damn good idea if you didn't want to find your kids drowned by some traveling psycho who pitched a snotty kid off a bridge instead of just giving him directions.

Faerie tales should be a bit scary. That means there are stakes if the characters get it wrong. It means kids will pay attention to the lesson a lot better.


Pan's Labyrinth is another favourite of mine. Though in that instance, even I'd concede that it's a bit much for a lot of kids.

There's a great quote in the video I posted by G.K Chesterton who wrote, "Fairy tales are more than true: not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten".

That's what is great about Coraline. She takes on the 'dragon', and wins.
 
2020-10-29 8:17:07 AM  
Katie98_KT:the theory is that it was on one of the channels (ABC family I think?) every year during millennials childhood, so they as a generation got used to watching it and now consider it a classic.

I have to say, that fits me to a T. I watched it every year as a kid, sometimes more than once.


There's another story around how It's A Wonderful Life became a Christmas classic. It was a flop when it came out in 1946 and was seen by some as communist propaganda, since the bad guy was a capitalist banker.

Forgotten by the 60s, its copyright wasn't renewed in 1974 and so it fell into public domain. Local TV stations started to air it because it was cheap and by the 80s it was considered one of the most beloved American movies of all time.
 
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