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2020-10-29 7:00:24 AM  
They struggle with the present, stumble into the future, hungover by the past.
A special state, with a gold star for effort.
 
2020-10-29 7:06:55 AM  
fark you gov hot wheels and lt gov nutso
 
2020-10-29 8:12:18 AM  
As someone LGBT in the Deep South, I'm actually more bothered by the allowance for discrimination against people with disabilities. I mean, I know what the chuckleheads dislike about me and all, but what's the problem with the disabled?

/Not that I want to be discriminated against, though.
 
2020-10-29 8:12:39 AM  
Linked in the article: "Texas woman claimed COVID-19 is a media hoax & can be stopped by "faith." Days later she died."

It's little joys like this that make the day go by.
 
2020-10-29 8:15:03 AM  

Boojum2k: As someone LGBT in the Deep South, I'm actually more bothered by the allowance for discrimination against people with disabilities. I mean, I know what the chuckleheads dislike about me and all, but what's the problem with the disabled?

/Not that I want to be discriminated against, though


Ableism
Ableism is discrimination and social prejudice against people with disabilities or who are perceived to have disabilities. Ableism characterizes persons as defined by their disabilities and as inferior to the non-disabled.
 
2020-10-29 8:17:01 AM  

Smoking GNU: Boojum2k: As someone LGBT in the Deep South, I'm actually more bothered by the allowance for discrimination against people with disabilities. I mean, I know what the chuckleheads dislike about me and all, but what's the problem with the disabled?

/Not that I want to be discriminated against, though

Ableism
Ableism is discrimination and social prejudice against people with disabilities or who are perceived to have disabilities. Ableism characterizes persons as defined by their disabilities and as inferior to the non-disabled.


Seems like those might be the people who have the occasional need for a social worker!
 
2020-10-29 8:18:07 AM  
Either Texas is failing at failing or people here are seeing the writing on the wall as far as demographics.

/why not both?
 
2020-10-29 8:25:46 AM  
If I am gay and in need of a social worker, I don't think I want the one who hates gay people.  Just sayin'
 
2020-10-29 8:28:09 AM  
Few people know this, but it's actually against the NASW's code of ethics to discriminate so I have no idea how this was even allowed to begin with. WTF Texas?
/social worker
//luckily in NY state
 
2020-10-29 8:29:04 AM  
You would think someone in a wheelchair (a minority group in itself) would sympathize with other minority groups and wouldn't be such a piece of shiat towards them, but there you go. Just another example showing all Republicans are pieces of shiat, be they handicapped, gay, black, etc.

How you doin Herman Cain? Still dead? Trump doesn't even mention you. Probably would say he doesn't even know you. You were just a glorified coffee boy.
 
2020-10-29 8:32:04 AM  
That article is the weirdest Chick-fil-A ad I've ever seen.
 
2020-10-29 8:32:23 AM  
Was the "+" usually at the end of that excluded? Because they should be able to refuse the "+" people. No fatties.
 
2020-10-29 8:33:10 AM  

Walker: You would think someone in a wheelchair (a minority group in itself) would sympathize with other minority groups and wouldn't be such a piece of shiat towards them, but there you go. Just another example showing all Republicans are pieces of shiat, be they handicapped, gay, black, etc.

How you doin Herman Cain? Still dead? Trump doesn't even mention you. Probably would say he doesn't even know you. You were just a glorified coffee boy.


Gov hot wheels gets hit by tree branch, gets put on wheelchair, sues, gets multi million pay out
Then helps push through tort "reform" that ensures that nobody else can do what he did
 
2020-10-29 8:46:31 AM  

Boojum2k: As someone LGBT in the Deep South, I'm actually more bothered by the allowance for discrimination against people with disabilities. I mean, I know what the chuckleheads dislike about me and all, but what's the problem with the disabled?

/Not that I want to be discriminated against, though.


The disabled have always been hated throughout history. That's never going to change.

/disabled
 
2020-10-29 8:48:53 AM  

Summoner101: Either Texas is failing at failing or people here are seeing the writing on the wall as far as demographics.

/why not both?


Or they know they can pull some shiat with the new SCOTUS makeup and this is just pretending to do the right thing until SCOTUS steps in.
 
2020-10-29 9:03:55 AM  

Boojum2k: As someone LGBT in the Deep South, I'm actually more bothered by the allowance for discrimination against people with disabilities. I mean, I know what the chuckleheads dislike about me and all, but what's the problem with the disabled?

/Not that I want to be discriminated against, though.


"Hello, this is Governor Abbott, and I need help."

*laughter on other side of phone, hangup*
 
2020-10-29 9:11:00 AM  

vudukungfu: They struggle with the present, stumble into the future, hungover by the past.
A special state, with a gold star for effort.


It's far more direct than that.  Texas politics is a struggle between religious conservatives and business conservatives.  In general, they policy tends to fall on the side of business, which doesn't want to piss people off.  They strike down bathroom bills and other anti-LGBT provisions to ensure that businesses don't have a reason to flee the state, and we don't lose lucrative events and business development.

Occasionally, they get complacent and the religious nuts push something through, and it takes time to unwind.  But overall, business interests drive the state, regardless of the public rhetoric of Abbott/Perry/Paxton/etc.

The last 2 years have been interesting, since Dems are actually threatening to grow into a political threat again.  The 2020 census will significantly shift the state.  ~3 more U.S. House seats nationally is a big deal, but a lot of the movement has been into the cities and suburbs, and it's been college-educated professionals.
 
2020-10-29 9:15:20 AM  

Pichu0102: Summoner101: Either Texas is failing at failing or people here are seeing the writing on the wall as far as demographics.

/why not both?

Or they know they can pull some shiat with the new SCOTUS makeup and this is just pretending to do the right thing until SCOTUS steps in.


They'll end up doing a lot of damage before the "imp of the perverse" effect kicks in, and between them and the courts they codify some rules or process that will rebound on them hard. But mark my words, that imp is still coming for them.
 
2020-10-29 9:20:27 AM  
This was a thing? I know, Texas, but still, what the fark?
 
2020-10-29 9:23:49 AM  
I'm sure Texas isn't worried about this.  They know where this case is heading and they know exactly how it will turn out for them.
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2020-10-29 9:39:44 AM  
Ok, hold on a sec.  This bunch of idjits claim LGBTQ+ are just choosing to be outside of the norm, so screw them and their problems.  Then, they throw the vast category of special needs (AKA disability) on that pile as well?    I'm pretty damn certain I've never met a single person that chose to be less than average in any category.  In fact, most of the people I'm thinking about would be delighted to just be average in any freaking category.  Among my gay friends and family, the only thing they ever chose was the timing of their coming out, if even that.  Most just live their lives, like the rest of society.
 
2020-10-29 9:49:18 AM  

vudukungfu: They struggle with the present, stumble into the future, hungover by the past.
A special state, with a gold star for effort.


Or bunch hill billies who only have a pot to piss in because of inherited wealth
 
2020-10-29 9:51:36 AM  

Boojum2k: As someone LGBT in the Deep South, I'm actually more bothered by the allowance for discrimination against people with disabilities. I mean, I know what the chuckleheads dislike about me and all, but what's the problem with the disabled?

/Not that I want to be discriminated against, though.


I'm old.
Lived in Texas all my life.
The people are just mean.
And I'm not being glib or anything.
I've actually had opportunities to have long conversations with people on the Right in Texas.
And any justifications I give are always superficial and always comes down to just being petty. Period.
It's f++kin sad.
And if it's not Petty it's worse it's a lame revenge tactic for some past wrong of little significance except in their little brain.
 
2020-10-29 9:54:40 AM  

baka-san: Gov hot wheels gets hit by tree branch, gets put on wheelchair, sues, gets multi million pay out
Then helps push through tort "reform" that ensures that nobody else can do what he did


This.

This, needs to be brung up every single time this man is mentioned.

The hypocrisy, man
 
2020-10-29 9:55:10 AM  

waxbeans: vudukungfu: They struggle with the present, stumble into the future, hungover by the past.
A special state, with a gold star for effort.

Or bunch hill billies who only have a pot to piss in because of inherited wealth


oil.
black gold
texas tea
 
2020-10-29 9:55:15 AM  

vudukungfu: They struggle with the present, stumble into the future, hungover by the past.
A special state, with a gold star for effort.


...and they do the right thing...then reverse it, then allow it again, only when embarrassed into it.

Old, straight white guy here. I am so f'ing sick and tired of this pandering to conservatives. There seem to be two sides to this society: the "nice" side, and the "FU" side. The nice side says, "hey, let's go as far as we can to be nice to everyone and give folks who are having a difficult time, a little bit of a helping hand". The "FU" side says, I've got mine, and I want it just the way it was on Leave it to Beaver -- no gays, no Blacks, no immigrants and no handouts.

The "FU" side seems to forget that for a lot of them, this country gave them a hand when they needed it. Sure, free public schools, Social Security, government-backed housing loans, Medicare -- they all cost something. But it's not much, if we all contribute our fair share, and it benefits us all to have a healthy, educated, productive society. Would you rather pay for prisons or college?  And why?
 
2020-10-29 9:57:28 AM  

crzybtch: If I am gay and in need of a social worker, I don't think I want the one who hates gay people.  Just sayin'


Wouldn't that be an antisocial-worker anyway?
 
2020-10-29 10:27:51 AM  

crzybtch: If I am gay and in need of a social worker, I don't think I want the one who hates gay people.  Just sayin'


Yeah, I'm always torn about that. Like the bakery that wouldn't bake a wedding cake for a same-day couple. Do you really *want* them baking your wedding cake? I want to k ow who the bigots are so I never support them or their businesses by mistake.

On the other hand, this can't be allowed with essential workers. Social workers and other essential public service personnel must be held to a decent standard or told to hit the bricks.
 
2020-10-29 10:35:46 AM  
Texas. Not even once.
 
2020-10-29 11:05:39 AM  

Jadedgrl: Few people know this, but it's actually against the NASW's code of ethics to discriminate so I have no idea how this was even allowed to begin with. WTF Texas?
/social worker
//luckily in NY state


I'm wondering if following the NASW Code of Ethics is part of licensure in TX. I know it is in RI.

/also social worker
//luckily(?) in RI
 
2020-10-29 11:09:35 AM  

KidKorporate: That article is the weirdest Chick-fil-A ad I've ever seen.


And yet still on brand, somehow.
 
2020-10-29 11:12:55 AM  

Boojum2k: Seems like those might be the people who have the occasional need for a social worker!


Whodda thunk it?
 
2020-10-29 11:18:35 AM  

cherryl taggart: Ok, hold on a sec.  This bunch of idjits claim LGBTQ+ are just choosing to be outside of the norm, so screw them and their problems.  Then, they throw the vast category of special needs (AKA disability) on that pile as well?    I'm pretty damn certain I've never met a single person that chose to be less than average in any category.  In fact, most of the people I'm thinking about would be delighted to just be average in any freaking category.  Among my gay friends and family, the only thing they ever chose was the timing of their coming out, if even that.  Most just live their lives, like the rest of society.


Apparently understanding that people are just people regardless of their abilities and or who they screw is a hard concept for some people to understand.
 
2020-10-29 11:20:34 AM  

waxbeans: And any justifications I give are always superficial and always comes down to just being petty. Period.


Read this a pretty  and almost tossed out a Joey on ya.
/How you doin?
 
2020-10-29 11:27:51 AM  

Truck Fump: vudukungfu: They struggle with the present, stumble into the future, hungover by the past.
A special state, with a gold star for effort.

...and they do the right thing...then reverse it, then allow it again, only when embarrassed into it.

Old, straight white guy here. I am so f'ing sick and tired of this pandering to conservatives. There seem to be two sides to this society: the "nice" side, and the "FU" side. The nice side says, "hey, let's go as far as we can to be nice to everyone and give folks who are having a difficult time, a little bit of a helping hand". The "FU" side says, I've got mine, and I want it just the way it was on Leave it to Beaver -- no gays, no Blacks, no immigrants and no handouts.

The "FU" side seems to forget that for a lot of them, this country gave them a hand when they needed it. Sure, free public schools, Social Security, government-backed housing loans, Medicare -- they all cost something. But it's not much, if we all contribute our fair share, and it benefits us all to have a healthy, educated, productive society. Would you rather pay for prisons or college?  And why?


it's like looking into a mirror
 
2020-10-29 11:41:38 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Linked in the article: "Texas woman claimed COVID-19 is a media hoax & can be stopped by "faith." Days later she died."

It's little joys like this that make the day go by.


Well, it worked, didn't it?  She had faith, she no longer has Covid.
 
2020-10-29 12:01:34 PM  
It is shiat like this that people call the GOP evil and why their voters have abandoned the party. Here is what should have happened:

- If in fact there is already a State Law that is in conflict with this, rather than denying what amounts to a farking rational provision, make a motion to amend or change the law to allow for the provision protecting the disabled and LGBT people from discrimination by social workers. Abbott could have been a hero and instead he is a villain.

The fact that Texas has not yet passed legislation protecting people from being fired based on their sexual orientation is ludicrous.
 
2020-10-29 6:17:35 PM  

Boojum2k: As someone LGBT in the Deep South, I'm actually more bothered by the allowance for discrimination against people with disabilities. I mean, I know what the chuckleheads dislike about me and all, but what's the problem with the disabled?

/Not that I want to be discriminated against, though.


This reminds me of the joke "if you say that homosexuality is a sickness, can I call into work gay?"
 
2020-10-29 6:40:27 PM  
Not that there's any valid reason to discriminate against LGTBQ, but what was the claimed valid reason for discriminating against disabled people in the first place? That seems obviously wrong even when taking bullsh*t religious stances into account.
 
2020-10-29 7:27:29 PM  

mateomaui: Not that there's any valid reason to discriminate against LGTBQ, but what was the claimed valid reason for discriminating against disabled people in the first place? That seems obviously wrong even when taking bullsh*t religious stances into account.


"We don't want to pay for ramps or appropriate workstations or..."
 
2020-10-30 12:35:45 AM  

HailRobonia: mateomaui: Not that there's any valid reason to discriminate against LGTBQ, but what was the claimed valid reason for discriminating against disabled people in the first place? That seems obviously wrong even when taking bullsh*t religious stances into account.

"We don't want to pay for ramps or appropriate workstations or..."


The weird thing is it's just about social workers.  So none of that would've come into play.

I'm not getting the disabled part either.  I find the LBGTQ+ part atrocious, but par for the course for religious fundamentalists.  But the disabled part just left me scratching my head.  Of all the people that could use support from social workers.... I'd think I disabled folk would need it the most.  It doesn't really fit in with their version of fundamentalism unless they're going full mask off here.  Or they're going strict Bible interpretation where disabled people aren't supposed to go to church with any of those deformities.  May offend God and all that.

Seriously, I don't get the disabled part.  Its unfortunate that I "get" the LBGTQ+ part, but they're shiatty people so it's to be expected from them.
 
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