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Xai [TotalFark]
2020-10-28 9:32:17 PM  
Goddamnitsomuch

This was going to be my purchase with my shiny new ps5 - now I've got to pick from the launch leftovers.
 
2020-10-28 10:00:33 PM  
Well, of course you tell the people pushing to get the 0 day patch finished that they only have 3 weeks to get it done.  Otherwise they'll slack off and take weekends and pee breaks.

Like, do you even capitalism, bro?
 
2020-10-29 3:06:31 AM  
I'd whine and vent, but, what the fark is the point? It's just another game that's going to fall on its face.

This third delay only ups the ante - it had better be farking perfect, or CD Projekt Red is going to wax fondly of the days where their stock price only lost $24/share between August and October.
 
2020-10-29 3:16:58 AM  

Krieghund: Well, of course you tell the people pushing to get the 0 day patch finished that they only have 3 weeks to get it done.  Otherwise they'll slack off and take weekends and pee breaks.

Like, do you even capitalism, bro?


They're limited to 48 hours a week even during crunch time. Many people, including me, work more hours than that in a regular week without a problem.
 
2020-10-29 3:20:30 AM  
All this and still a zero day patch. Game companies are honest failures at this point. There is no point in ever buying something right out of the gate. Just wait a couple months for them to finish making it between bug fixes and patches that triple the install size
 
2020-10-29 3:44:22 AM  

FormlessOne: I'd whine and vent, but, what the fark is the point? It's just another game that's going to fall on its face.

This third delay only ups the ante - it had better be farking perfect, or CD Projekt Red is going to wax fondly of the days where their stock price only lost $24/share between August and October.


From what I understand, the game is ready the only issue they are having is some compatibility issues with current generation Xbox and Playstation 4 base units.

Everyone just needs to unclench, this game looks fantastic and it will release when it releases.
 
2020-10-29 3:45:01 AM  

Boojum2k: Krieghund: Well, of course you tell the people pushing to get the 0 day patch finished that they only have 3 weeks to get it done.  Otherwise they'll slack off and take weekends and pee breaks.

Like, do you even capitalism, bro?

They're limited to 48 hours a week even during crunch time. Many people, including me, work more hours than that in a regular week without a problem.


Many of the comments in that article point to dev tweets claiming 100+ hour weeks. 48 is something to scoff at. 100 is not.
 
2020-10-29 3:46:36 AM  

rummonkey: FormlessOne: I'd whine and vent, but, what the fark is the point? It's just another game that's going to fall on its face.

This third delay only ups the ante - it had better be farking perfect, or CD Projekt Red is going to wax fondly of the days where their stock price only lost $24/share between August and October.

From what I understand, the game is ready the only issue they are having is some compatibility issues with current generation Xbox and Playstation 4 base units.

Everyone just needs to unclench, this game looks fantastic and it will release when it releases.


They really should just release it platform by platform. If some of them suck to develop for or certify for, they should let everyone know why that console doesn't have the game released on day 0.
 
2020-10-29 3:47:28 AM  

Boojum2k: They're limited to 48 hours a week even during crunch time. Many people, including me, work more hours than that in a regular week without a problem.


Yeah, not so much.
 
2020-10-29 4:27:20 AM  

rummonkey: FormlessOne: I'd whine and vent, but, what the fark is the point? It's just another game that's going to fall on its face.

This third delay only ups the ante - it had better be farking perfect, or CD Projekt Red is going to wax fondly of the days where their stock price only lost $24/share between August and October.

From what I understand, the game is ready the only issue they are having is some compatibility issues with current generation Xbox and Playstation 4 base units.

Everyone just needs to unclench, this game looks fantastic and it will release when it releases.


Pretty sure compatibility issues fall under, "not ready"
 
2020-10-29 4:32:26 AM  
The Entitlement Brigade is out in full force with this announcement. Did myself a disfavor and read through some of the twittercomments and holy hell - what a bunch of manchilds.

I get ut, you are disappointed but deaththreats etc, come on!!
 
2020-10-29 5:31:36 AM  
The people screeching the loudest about the delay are most likely to be the same people frothing at the mouth and gibbering (OK- more so than usual) about the inevitable bugs found in any such complicated software after being released.

It's a farking game. I'm interested in playing it when it comes out, but it's just a game. It will be released- in one form or another- sooner or later.

Cope.
 
2020-10-29 5:53:18 AM  
The game has already gone gold, gone to distributors, so...

.. how farking bad is the state that it's in that they need to delay it's launch to make sure the 0 day patch is ready?
 
2020-10-29 6:13:01 AM  

Boojum2k: Krieghund: Well, of course you tell the people pushing to get the 0 day patch finished that they only have 3 weeks to get it done.  Otherwise they'll slack off and take weekends and pee breaks.

Like, do you even capitalism, bro?

They're limited to 48 hours a week even during crunch time. Many people, including me, work more hours than that in a regular week without a problem.


So is your contention that the standard legal work week being 40 hours is incorrect, or that "it only hurts a little" is a valid excuse?
 
2020-10-29 6:34:00 AM  
How many Polish people does it take to release a game on time?

Let's ride bikes!


Wait thats not right.
 
2020-10-29 6:36:13 AM  

TotalFarsa: The Entitlement Brigade is out in full force with this announcement. Did myself a disfavor and read through some of the twittercomments and holy hell - what a bunch of manchilds.

I get ut, you are disappointed but deaththreats etc, come on!!


That shiat blows my mind...

"Oh you delayed the game again??
IF I CANT HAVE IT NO ONE WILL"
 
2020-10-29 7:05:58 AM  

lifeslammer: All this and still a zero day patch. Game companies are honest failures at this point. There is no point in ever buying something right out of the gate. Just wait a couple months for them to finish making it between bug fixes and patches that triple the install size


These days I usually just wait till the first decent sale.  Don't play as much these days so I can't justify dropping $60 on a game, and it usually gives the devs 6-9 months to patch out the rough stuff.
 
2020-10-29 7:06:26 AM  

Krieghund: Well, of course you tell the people pushing to get the 0 day patch finished that they only have 3 weeks to get it done.  Otherwise they'll slack off and take weekends and pee breaks.

Like, do you even capitalism, bro?


At least the employees are slightly protected under Polish law, unlike the US.
 
2020-10-29 7:07:44 AM  

Boojum2k: Krieghund: Well, of course you tell the people pushing to get the 0 day patch finished that they only have 3 weeks to get it done.  Otherwise they'll slack off and take weekends and pee breaks.

Like, do you even capitalism, bro?

They're limited to 48 hours a week even during crunch time. Many people, including me, work more hours than that in a regular week without a problem.


You're being exploited or are a fool.

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Juc
2020-10-29 7:15:39 AM  

Felgraf: The game has already gone gold, gone to distributors, so...

.. how farking bad is the state that it's in that they need to delay it's launch to make sure the 0 day patch is ready?


They've probably got an agreement with the platform holders to allow a flawed version of the game through certification provided they fix the issues found in a day one patch to speed up the shipping process saying they want to get in before Christmas. The extra time is probably to verify the fixes and add anything else seemed super urgent.

Is the guy above is right saying it's compatibility issues on a couple platforms that makes sense to me at least.
 
2020-10-29 7:15:44 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Boojum2k: Krieghund: Well, of course you tell the people pushing to get the 0 day patch finished that they only have 3 weeks to get it done.  Otherwise they'll slack off and take weekends and pee breaks.

Like, do you even capitalism, bro?

They're limited to 48 hours a week even during crunch time. Many people, including me, work more hours than that in a regular week without a problem.

You're being exploited or are a fool.

\whynotboth.jpg


I'm getting guaranteed overtime on a job where I sit around and mess about on my phone or laptop 6-8 hours of a 10 hour day. Who's being exploited here?
 
2020-10-29 7:15:53 AM  

Felgraf: The game has already gone gold, gone to distributors, so...

.. how farking bad is the state that it's in that they need to delay it's launch to make sure the 0 day patch is ready?


I can say from experience that, in theory, going gold on a console means you've passed the console maker's QA tests, and that your game is bug free. However, if the developer has enough clout, they can get waivers from QA and release a buggy product, with the presumed understanding that it will be fixed later.
 
2020-10-29 7:16:46 AM  

Boojum2k: Tyrone Slothrop: Boojum2k: Krieghund: Well, of course you tell the people pushing to get the 0 day patch finished that they only have 3 weeks to get it done.  Otherwise they'll slack off and take weekends and pee breaks.

Like, do you even capitalism, bro?

They're limited to 48 hours a week even during crunch time. Many people, including me, work more hours than that in a regular week without a problem.

You're being exploited or are a fool.

\whynotboth.jpg

I'm getting guaranteed overtime on a job where I sit around and mess about on my phone or laptop 6-8 hours of a 10 hour day. Who's being exploited here?


So a fool, then.
 
2020-10-29 7:19:53 AM  
i remember when i had a collection of "gamer" t-shirts and wore them proudly.
a dear friend looked at my "room of doom" and said it looked like the inside of a
gamestop.
when i read about these dickheads frothing at the mouth about not getting a new
fresh kick of their digital crack at a timely fashion, i get reminded of this
and other bullshiat and other things (that i don't want to get into, cuz reasons).
/geezus. i guess i should proclaim, Ich bin kein Spieler!
//i would think if their like me, they have games still in plastic, or crap not even finished.
///also i thought these would be the same people who wouldn't even play this because your character wouldn't actually have a gender, because, i mean "plastic-transhumans". (is your toaster a guy or girl?)
 
2020-10-29 7:20:23 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Boojum2k: Tyrone Slothrop: Boojum2k: Krieghund: Well, of course you tell the people pushing to get the 0 day patch finished that they only have 3 weeks to get it done.  Otherwise they'll slack off and take weekends and pee breaks.

Like, do you even capitalism, bro?

They're limited to 48 hours a week even during crunch time. Many people, including me, work more hours than that in a regular week without a problem.

You're being exploited or are a fool.

\whynotboth.jpg

I'm getting guaranteed overtime on a job where I sit around and mess about on my phone or laptop 6-8 hours of a 10 hour day. Who's being exploited here?

So a fool, then.


Nope, a professional. Get some skills in something beyond burger flipping and you too can run part.or all of an operation.
 
2020-10-29 7:32:21 AM  
I don't know game creation so I ask earnestly, if it's been in development since 2016 wouldn't it have been designed on current engines?

I don't mind playing games when they're old, fixed, all dlc is out, and on sale. This summer I played through AC Odyssey and Origins. I paid about $50 and that included all the dlc and some cosmetics. I loved the play style having just finished RDR2 in spring ($29 with everything) and liking that all encompassing play. I missed the hype at the beginnings of the games but I also miss a lot of the griping and freak outs about it too. For fall/winter play I'll probably look at last years big releases on holiday sale. I'm excited to play Cyberpunk next fall and avoid the mess now.
 
2020-10-29 7:37:43 AM  
Surprise, thay crunch you've been living for the last year, it's going on for another month and is going to fark Halloween and Thanksgiving.

I don't mind waiting, hell make it two more months if it doesn't cause human misery.
 
2020-10-29 7:38:24 AM  
Game is delayed by a few weeks.
Just do something else while you wait.
 
2020-10-29 7:42:07 AM  

rudemix: I don't know game creation so I ask earnestly, if it's been in development since 2016 wouldn't it have been designed on current engines?


Technically, whatever engine it's using is a current engine. I know, that's not what you meant.

So I don't know too much about CDPRs processes, but generally speaking most larger game companies tend to use an engine that's had loads of heavy customization through their games. Even if it started life as a general purpose engine, over time it's grown into their own special snowflake of an engine, and all that kruft layered on means that it's got a lot of features they "need" to be able to deliver their games. It also means that they're locked into tech decisions from a game generation or two ago (see: why Bethesda games get so hinky about framerates until FO4).

Which, just checking, yep, that is what's going on. They use something called REDengine, which is their in-house game engine they built for Witcher II. Cyberpunk is going to be the first outing of REDengine 4, so technically a new engine, but probably carrying forward a lot of stuff from previous versions.
 
2020-10-29 7:44:00 AM  

NathanAllen: I don't mind waiting, hell make it two more months if it doesn't cause human misery.


Hell, I'm not buying it until I can snag it on sale at 75% off or maybe as a GOTY with all the expansions, so yeah, please, they should take their farking time.

(Who buys games on launch day? I can kinda see it for a multiplayer game, as the player base will probably shrink over time, but a narrative game like Cyberpunk? What's the rush?)
 
2020-10-29 7:51:41 AM  
I can't remember the last game I bought at launch.  Maybe Resident Evil 6?
And I got burned SO bad by that that I no longer buy any games at or near launch.

Most games end up on the Target clearance end caps within a year.
 
2020-10-29 8:06:48 AM  
Honestly, I am not too worried by this.  Given the impacts COVID-19 had on productivity, the products that CDPR has made in the past and just having a full time job.  I can wait until this game delivers.  Witcher 3 was delayed a few times as well and at the end it was a quality product with great acting, storylines and gameplay.
 
2020-10-29 8:21:20 AM  

buntz: I can't remember the last game I bought at launch.  Maybe Resident Evil 6?
And I got burned SO bad by that that I no longer buy any games at or near launch.

Most games end up on the Target clearance end caps within a year.


That was Far Cry 5 for me. I played 4 late as usual and enjoyed it so much I paid out for 5. Big mistake.
 
2020-10-29 8:22:01 AM  

t3knomanser: rudemix: I don't know game creation so I ask earnestly, if it's been in development since 2016 wouldn't it have been designed on current engines?

Technically, whatever engine it's using is a current engine. I know, that's not what you meant.

So I don't know too much about CDPRs processes, but generally speaking most larger game companies tend to use an engine that's had loads of heavy customization through their games. Even if it started life as a general purpose engine, over time it's grown into their own special snowflake of an engine, and all that kruft layered on means that it's got a lot of features they "need" to be able to deliver their games. It also means that they're locked into tech decisions from a game generation or two ago (see: why Bethesda games get so hinky about framerates until FO4).

Which, just checking, yep, that is what's going on. They use something called REDengine, which is their in-house game engine they built for Witcher II. Cyberpunk is going to be the first outing of REDengine 4, so technically a new engine, but probably carrying forward a lot of stuff from previous versions.


Thanks much for the detail. It's appreciated.
 
2020-10-29 8:45:09 AM  

t3knomanser: NathanAllen: I don't mind waiting, hell make it two more months if it doesn't cause human misery.

Hell, I'm not buying it until I can snag it on sale at 75% off or maybe as a GOTY with all the expansions, so yeah, please, they should take their farking time.

(Who buys games on launch day? I can kinda see it for a multiplayer game, as the player base will probably shrink over time, but a narrative game like Cyberpunk? What's the rush?)


Mr Spawn has been playing Cyberpunk rpg since Cyberpunk 2013.  He runs a Cyberpunk website and has done guest spots on pod casts.  He has gamed with Mike Pondsmith who invented the RPG (Mike is a really nice guy). He's been waiting for this game literally for years.  He bought a new gaming rig last week just to play this.

Yeah he's a geek.  But he doesn't cheat on me or beat me or mind that I have tentacles...
 
2020-10-29 8:46:20 AM  

NathanAllen: Surprise, thay crunch you've been living for the last year, it's going on for another month and is going to fark Halloween and Thanksgiving.

I don't mind waiting, hell make it two more months if it doesn't cause human misery.


Because the rest of the world celebrates those two american holidays ;)

The rest I totally agree with!!
 
2020-10-29 8:48:07 AM  

MillionDollarMo: Game is delayed by a few weeks.
Just do something else while you wait.


I mean, yeah.  But it is a major release people having been waiting years for, and a year when there aren't a lot of external events to look forward to.  Some people took vacations planned  around it.
 
2020-10-29 9:19:37 AM  

LowbrowDeluxe: MillionDollarMo: Game is delayed by a few weeks.
Just do something else while you wait.

I mean, yeah.  But it is a major release people having been waiting years for, and a year when there aren't a lot of external events to look forward to.  Some people took vacations planned  around it.


And?
Games have been delayed for as long as I can remember. I recall aching for the day StarCraft would go gold. Eventually it did.

Company has a product to make, might as well get it right. Not entirely sure what people outside of the developer think they should have done differently.
 
2020-10-29 10:07:10 AM  

MillionDollarMo: LowbrowDeluxe: MillionDollarMo: Game is delayed by a few weeks.
Just do something else while you wait.

I mean, yeah.  But it is a major release people having been waiting years for, and a year when there aren't a lot of external events to look forward to.  Some people took vacations planned  around it.

And?
Games have been delayed for as long as I can remember. I recall aching for the day StarCraft would go gold. Eventually it did.

Company has a product to make, might as well get it right. Not entirely sure what people outside of the developer think they should have done differently.


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Really?  Really?  You just can't possibly figure it the fark out?  That square peg just HAS to go in the round hole, you're goddamn sure of it.  Jesus fark, at least work the shaft while you're down there sucking them off.
 
2020-10-29 11:28:15 AM  

Boojum2k: Krieghund: Well, of course you tell the people pushing to get the 0 day patch finished that they only have 3 weeks to get it done.  Otherwise they'll slack off and take weekends and pee breaks.

Like, do you even capitalism, bro?

They're limited to 48 hours a week even during crunch time. Many people, including me, work more hours than that in a regular week without a problem.


lol your employer abuses you.
 
2020-10-29 11:35:46 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: Boojum2k: Krieghund: Well, of course you tell the people pushing to get the 0 day patch finished that they only have 3 weeks to get it done.  Otherwise they'll slack off and take weekends and pee breaks.

Like, do you even capitalism, bro?

They're limited to 48 hours a week even during crunch time. Many people, including me, work more hours than that in a regular week without a problem.

lol your employer abuses you.


^^^Look who doesn't read an entire thread before posting an inaccurate comment.

I assure you, the abuse is running in the opposite direction.
 
2020-10-29 1:18:21 PM  

Boojum2k: Tyrone Slothrop: Boojum2k: Tyrone Slothrop: Boojum2k: Krieghund: Well, of course you tell the people pushing to get the 0 day patch finished that they only have 3 weeks to get it done.  Otherwise they'll slack off and take weekends and pee breaks.

Like, do you even capitalism, bro?

They're limited to 48 hours a week even during crunch time. Many people, including me, work more hours than that in a regular week without a problem.

You're being exploited or are a fool.

\whynotboth.jpg

I'm getting guaranteed overtime on a job where I sit around and mess about on my phone or laptop 6-8 hours of a 10 hour day. Who's being exploited here?

So a fool, then.

Nope, a professional. Get some skills in something beyond burger flipping and you too can run part.or all of an operation.


Sorry, I prefer to work 40 hours a week and make a 6-figure salary. That what happens when you're not a fool who spends their day playing with their phone.
 
2020-10-29 1:24:03 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Boojum2k: Tyrone Slothrop: Boojum2k: Tyrone Slothrop: Boojum2k: Krieghund: Well, of course you tell the people pushing to get the 0 day patch finished that they only have 3 weeks to get it done.  Otherwise they'll slack off and take weekends and pee breaks.

Like, do you even capitalism, bro?

They're limited to 48 hours a week even during crunch time. Many people, including me, work more hours than that in a regular week without a problem.

You're being exploited or are a fool.

\whynotboth.jpg

I'm getting guaranteed overtime on a job where I sit around and mess about on my phone or laptop 6-8 hours of a 10 hour day. Who's being exploited here?

So a fool, then.

Nope, a professional. Get some skills in something beyond burger flipping and you too can run part.or all of an operation.

Sorry, I prefer to work 40 hours a week and make a 6-figure salary. That what happens when you're not a fool who spends their day playing with their phone.


Just a liar. But you do you.
 
2020-10-29 3:09:38 PM  
Gamer Karen's are almost as bad as the real thing
 
2020-10-29 3:40:24 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Sorry, I prefer to work 40 hours a week and make a 6-figure salary. That what happens when you're not a fool who spends their day playing with their phone.


Thank you Karen.  If I go over 40 hours, be sure to call someone.
I can't count that high, so I'm at your mercy.
 
2020-10-29 8:52:41 PM  

TotalFarsa: NathanAllen: Surprise, thay crunch you've been living for the last year, it's going on for another month and is going to fark Halloween and Thanksgiving.

I don't mind waiting, hell make it two more months if it doesn't cause human misery.

Because the rest of the world celebrates those two american holidays ;)

The rest I totally agree with!!


Hey, maybe give them a try, they're both pretty awesome holidays.

Except the Dutch, they'd probably make them more racist, like they did with Christmas.

I don't know, what holidays do they celebrate in Poland?
 
2020-10-29 10:32:44 PM  

Boojum2k: Tyrone Slothrop: Boojum2k: Krieghund: Well, of course you tell the people pushing to get the 0 day patch finished that they only have 3 weeks to get it done.  Otherwise they'll slack off and take weekends and pee breaks.

Like, do you even capitalism, bro?

They're limited to 48 hours a week even during crunch time. Many people, including me, work more hours than that in a regular week without a problem.

You're being exploited or are a fool.

\whynotboth.jpg

I'm getting guaranteed overtime on a job where I sit around and mess about on my phone or laptop 6-8 hours of a 10 hour day. Who's being exploited here?


Then you aren't actually working are you.  Why is your company so stupid they allow this?
 
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