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2020-10-28 5:28:43 PM  
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2020-10-28 9:00:54 PM  
That can't be Double Plus Good...
 
2020-10-28 9:14:57 PM  
This is like lemmings just before they leap.

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2020-10-28 9:14:58 PM  
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2020-10-28 9:26:53 PM  
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2020-10-28 9:51:47 PM  
Proving yet again that conservatives and Trump fans don't understand that book at all when they use it to slam Democrats and liberals.
 
2020-10-28 10:01:43 PM  
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2020-10-28 10:10:59 PM  
Big Blubber is watching you.
 
2020-10-28 10:35:27 PM  

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politifact rated this pitcure half-true u idiott pointed out trump only attended because he didnt know who hitler was
 
2020-10-28 11:26:12 PM  
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2020-10-28 11:34:01 PM  

Jake Havechek: Proving yet again that conservatives and Trump fans don't understand that book at all when they use it to slam Democrats and liberals.


Some of them do. Not your average person. But the ones in places of power.
 
2020-10-28 11:51:31 PM  
I should write a novel about the year 2084 in a timeline where POTUS 45 did indeed succeed in turning the USA into an authoritarian dictatorship and fought constant wars to subjugate weaker nations into slavery to prop up an economy where the proletariat serve the oligarchy without question in the desperate hope of joining their ranks. Or not. It seems enough people have ripped off George Orwell already.
 
2020-10-28 11:53:13 PM  
Is Eastasia our alley or have we always been at war with them?
 
2020-10-28 11:55:45 PM  

fragMasterFlash: I should write a novel about the year 2084 in a timeline where POTUS 45 did indeed succeed in turning the USA into an authoritarian dictatorship and fought constant wars to subjugate weaker nations into slavery to prop up an economy where the proletariat serve the oligarchy without question in the desperate hope of joining their ranks. Or not. It seems enough people have ripped off George Orwell already.


That's the thing...why isn't he declaring war on everybody already? Is he some kind of pussy?
 
2020-10-28 11:57:15 PM  
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2020-10-29 12:09:02 AM  
This goes back decades. In my own life I can remember Ruby Ridge, and then Waco TX. Back then everyone on the fringe were yelling about the government and the "mark of the devil".

None of that happened, but we did get the OKC bombing, and once again the people in my circles were frothing at the mouth.

Then 911 happened and there was now a new boogeyman: Islam. We've been fighting that for decades too.

Then Obama got elected and "oh sh*t!" they're taking our guns! Jade Helm -- JADE HELM! But that never happened.

Then there were the Bundys and all their standoffs with the government -- the sovereign citizens movement and all that bullsh*t.

And now we're coming up on groups like the proud boys, the boogaloos, and the three percenters -- people who are actively seeking to tear down our democracy.

I look back on my childhood and hear the same rhetoric coming from them as I heard from the pulpit back in the 80's, and all I can see is a direct line through it all. I see a line of fear, paranoia, and delusion -- I see a bunch of people who are really out of touch with the world, but this time they're a bit more than just some fringe lunatics.

I see a bunch of people who are so worried about the collapse of democracy and free speech & whatnot, but what they don't realize is they're marching in lockstep with the wrong side of history.

I see generations far-removed from the atrocities of war -- people who speak dreamily of combat as if it were something to be glorified -- people who are really looking forward to some sort of civil war.

And within that I see hope -- within that I see a sense of good people desiring only the best potluck for the good people around them -- I see lot's and lot's of people out there getting out the vote!
 
2020-10-29 12:23:46 AM  

Ghastly: Is Eastasia our alley or have we always been at war with them?


Yes.
 
2020-10-29 2:46:46 AM  
I noticed that picture is from the nose up. I guess he doesn't want to show off his dentures or his neck vagina.
 
2020-10-29 2:48:27 AM  
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2020-10-29 2:50:04 AM  

NeoCortex42: [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x167]


I don't think I realized how Hurt's character is juxtaposed against his earlier role before your post:

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2020-10-29 2:52:25 AM  

jaylectricity: fragMasterFlash: I should write a novel about the year 2084 in a timeline where POTUS 45 did indeed succeed in turning the USA into an authoritarian dictatorship and fought constant wars to subjugate weaker nations into slavery to prop up an economy where the proletariat serve the oligarchy without question in the desperate hope of joining their ranks. Or not. It seems enough people have ripped off George Orwell already.

That's the thing...why isn't he declaring war on everybody already? Is he some kind of pussy?


Yes. Murica doesnt even have the best dictators.

Trump showed how easy it would be to turn the country into a fascist state if someone with an average IQ were to try for real... good thing trump has a sub 80 IQ or the country could be in trouble. The next Trump on the other hand WILL be very dangerous.

/Biden should turn the country into a dictatorship of democracy before the GOP has a chance to turn the country into a fascist theocratic state.
 
2020-10-29 2:52:39 AM  

zerkalo: NeoCortex42: [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x167]

I don't think I realized how Hurt's character is juxtaposed against his earlier role before your post:

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2020-10-29 2:53:27 AM  
My neighbor and I were discussing the election this last week - he has seemed pretty liberal but just quit watching sports because of "the politics" - he said Trump would lose in a landslide, and then send in a video on a "giant screen" to give a sarcastic handoff to Biden at the inauguration.  We both agreed that Trump would slink away after the legal fights died down in return for a pardon/no prosecution.  He (my neighbor) is proud of never voting (BSAB) and we live in California so I don't hassle him about it. /csb
 
2020-10-29 2:58:59 AM  

Big Dave: My neighbor and I were discussing the election this last week - he has seemed pretty liberal but just quit watching sports because of "the politics" - he said Trump would lose in a landslide, and then send in a video on a "giant screen" to give a sarcastic handoff to Biden at the inauguration. We both agreed that Trump would slink away after the legal fights died down in return for a pardon/no prosecution. He (my neighbor) is proud of never voting (BSAB) and we live in California so I don't hassle him about it. /csb


I highly doubt the state of New York is interested in such a deal.
 
2020-10-29 2:59:50 AM  
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2020-10-29 3:00:54 AM  
If my mouth regularly looked like an anus, I'd cut the jumbotron image off at the nose, too.

/Just sayin'.
 
2020-10-29 3:05:07 AM  
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2020-10-29 3:05:59 AM  
Needs more hummingbird.
 
2020-10-29 3:06:09 AM  

jst3p: Big Dave: My neighbor and I were discussing the election this last week - he has seemed pretty liberal but just quit watching sports because of "the politics" - he said Trump would lose in a landslide, and then send in a video on a "giant screen" to give a sarcastic handoff to Biden at the inauguration. We both agreed that Trump would slink away after the legal fights died down in return for a pardon/no prosecution. He (my neighbor) is proud of never voting (BSAB) and we live in California so I don't hassle him about it. /csb

I highly doubt the state of New York is interested in such a deal.


to spare the country from Trumpers going nuts, I'd consider it.  It would take years of investigation and court battles, trying to put Trump in jail as an old man, to get any kind of justice.  Now that I think about it - Trump would never shut up/never stop tweeting that there was a coup etc - but if he and his family would go quietly I would consider it a draw.  The immidiate future is in flux and we're all hoping for a survivable landing.
 
2020-10-29 3:06:14 AM  
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2020-10-29 3:09:43 AM  

Quick and Dirty: I look back on my childhood and hear the same rhetoric coming from them as I heard from the pulpit back in the 80's, and all I can see is a direct line through it all. I see a line of fear, paranoia, and delusion -- I see a bunch of people who are really out of touch with the world, but this time they're a bit more than just some fringe lunatics.


Back then all they had was AM radio and photocopied newsletters. Now they have Fox News Channel prime-time with a full line-up of fear-mongering hate-spewing pundits spouting conspiracy theories and stirring up frothy divisive BS, and an Internet full of malevolent trolls both foreign and domestic eagerly contributing the same.
 
2020-10-29 3:14:37 AM  

nytmare: Quick and Dirty: I look back on my childhood and hear the same rhetoric coming from them as I heard from the pulpit back in the 80's, and all I can see is a direct line through it all. I see a line of fear, paranoia, and delusion -- I see a bunch of people who are really out of touch with the world, but this time they're a bit more than just some fringe lunatics.

Back then all they had was AM radio and photocopied newsletters. Now they have Fox News Channel prime-time with a full line-up of fear-mongering hate-spewing pundits spouting conspiracy theories and stirring up frothy divisive BS, and an Internet full of malevolent trolls both foreign and domestic eagerly contributing the same.


When I was a kid in the before-times, I remember plastered-up posters on highway overpass columns. Various Bircher shiat, vatican is the devil, the UN is evil, etc... It was fascinating to me how that shiat worked. Simone had a print shop somewhere dedicated to this stuff and pickups to roam around in the dead of might throwing this stuff up.

/Tbh, I always wanted a pristine copy of some of these posters for the lulz.
 
2020-10-29 3:14:49 AM  

Ghastly: Is Eastasia our alley or have we always been at war with them?


They're right up our alley!
 
2020-10-29 3:15:46 AM  

Big Dave: jst3p: Big Dave: My neighbor and I were discussing the election this last week - he has seemed pretty liberal but just quit watching sports because of "the politics" - he said Trump would lose in a landslide, and then send in a video on a "giant screen" to give a sarcastic handoff to Biden at the inauguration. We both agreed that Trump would slink away after the legal fights died down in return for a pardon/no prosecution. He (my neighbor) is proud of never voting (BSAB) and we live in California so I don't hassle him about it. /csb

I highly doubt the state of New York is interested in such a deal.

to spare the country from Trumpers going nuts, I'd consider it.  It would take years of investigation and court battles, trying to put Trump in jail as an old man, to get any kind of justice.  Now that I think about it - Trump would never shut up/never stop tweeting that there was a coup etc - but if he and his family would go quietly I would consider it a draw.  The immidiate future is in flux and we're all hoping for a survivable landing.


Much as I don't want a civil war, a draw with Trump kicks the can down the road until someone smarter than he does the same thing, only more successfully. The root cause(s) has to be addressed.

Think about it this way: the Trumpers are probably going to nuts no matter what, so why not get something out of it?
 
2020-10-29 3:16:00 AM  

Ghastly: Is Eastasia our alley or have we always been at war with them?


More like our boulevard.
 
2020-10-29 3:26:24 AM  

Quick and Dirty: This goes back decades. In my own life I can remember Ruby Ridge, and then Waco TX. Back then everyone on the fringe were yelling about the government and the "mark of the devil".

None of that happened, but we did get the OKC bombing, and once again the people in my circles were frothing at the mouth.

Then 911 happened and there was now a new boogeyman: Islam. We've been fighting that for decades too.

Then Obama got elected and "oh sh*t!" they're taking our guns! Jade Helm -- JADE HELM! But that never happened.

Then there were the Bundys and all their standoffs with the government -- the sovereign citizens movement and all that bullsh*t.

And now we're coming up on groups like the proud boys, the boogaloos, and the three percenters -- people who are actively seeking to tear down our democracy.

I look back on my childhood and hear the same rhetoric coming from them as I heard from the pulpit back in the 80's, and all I can see is a direct line through it all. I see a line of fear, paranoia, and delusion -- I see a bunch of people who are really out of touch with the world, but this time they're a bit more than just some fringe lunatics.

I see a bunch of people who are so worried about the collapse of democracy and free speech & whatnot, but what they don't realize is they're marching in lockstep with the wrong side of history.

I see generations far-removed from the atrocities of war -- people who speak dreamily of combat as if it were something to be glorified -- people who are really looking forward to some sort of civil war.

And within that I see hope -- within that I see a sense of good people desiring only the best potluck for the good people around them -- I see lot's and lot's of people out there getting out the vote!


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2020-10-29 3:28:38 AM  

palelizard: Big Dave: jst3p: Big Dave:

Much as I don't want a civil war, a draw with Trump kicks the can down the road until someone smarter than he does the same thing, only more successfully. The root cause(s) has to be addressed.

Think about it this way: the Trumpers are probably going to nuts no matter what, so why not get something out of it?


I don't think the Democrats would get enough out of it, before the pendulem swung back/conditions changed enough to allow future conservatives to get back in power.  Obama passed Obamacare and it cost him everything.  A new Dem administation might expand the court (with centrist judges) but the backlash would be another Republican administration in 4-8 years.  I personally am counting on demographic change to 'trump' our current politics, and so I want our current system to remain in place until a new concensus emerges.
 
2020-10-29 3:44:58 AM  

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That's uncalled for.

The Nuremburg rallies were very well attended, featured stirring speeches (horribleness of their content notwithstanding), and thanks to the cinematography of Leni Reifstafhl they were an immense propaganda success for the Reich.

Trump only WISHES he could pull off a Nuremburg rally.
 
2020-10-29 3:47:22 AM  

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Mind the uniform cleric... I plan on wearing it for a very long time.
 
Kiz [BareFark]
2020-10-29 3:48:39 AM  
Big Dave:
I don't think the Democrats would get enough out of it, before the pendulem swung back/conditions changed enough to allow future conservatives to get back in power.  Obama passed Obamacare and it cost him everything.  A new Dem administation might expand the court (with centrist judges) but the backlash would be another Republican administration in 4-8 years.  I personally am counting on demographic change to 'trump' our current politics, and so I want our current system to remain in place until a new concensus emerges.

They could lock it down, but I agree, they probably won't try.

If they did decide to go for it, well, adding 1-2 more states (who would absolutely elect Democrats for a long while, just on the grounds that they were the party that made them states), 4 more justices, and a gigantic ban on gerrymandering and electoral fraud, that would go a long way towards blunting the Republican party.

Plus a national healthcare plan.

There's a ton that they could accomplish with both houses of Congress and the Presidency, but stacking the Supreme Court would just about be a requirement (especially with the current court) and I'm not sure that there's the political will, even if they take the Senate by a lot. I kind of hope that there is, though- if they put in rules that can't be removed without the cooperation of the House (like expanding the court) then it will be much harder for any future Republican administration to undo them. Taking the Senate is extra hard for the Democrats... but taking the House can be similarly difficult for the Republicans.
 
2020-10-29 3:58:22 AM  

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2020-10-29 4:01:11 AM  

palelizard: Big Dave: jst3p: Big Dave: My neighbor and I were discussing the election this last week - he has seemed pretty liberal but just quit watching sports because of "the politics" - he said Trump would lose in a landslide, and then send in a video on a "giant screen" to give a sarcastic handoff to Biden at the inauguration. We both agreed that Trump would slink away after the legal fights died down in return for a pardon/no prosecution. He (my neighbor) is proud of never voting (BSAB) and we live in California so I don't hassle him about it. /csb

I highly doubt the state of New York is interested in such a deal.

to spare the country from Trumpers going nuts, I'd consider it.  It would take years of investigation and court battles, trying to put Trump in jail as an old man, to get any kind of justice.  Now that I think about it - Trump would never shut up/never stop tweeting that there was a coup etc - but if he and his family would go quietly I would consider it a draw.  The immidiate future is in flux and we're all hoping for a survivable landing.

Much as I don't want a civil war, a draw with Trump kicks the can down the road until someone smarter than he does the same thing, only more successfully. The root cause(s) has to be addressed.

Think about it this way: the Trumpers are probably going to nuts no matter what, so why not get something out of it?


Maybe if it's the feds taking down the oath keeper types. Still, nah.

/this should already be happening
 
2020-10-29 4:09:36 AM  
Mr. President, why is your neck a labia?
 
2020-10-29 4:09:41 AM  

Kiz: Big Dave:

there's a lot in your post but I will only address
adding 1-2 more states
absolute nonstarter for 20+years.  We've been talking about this since Obama said 57 states.  Changing the flag within the lifetime of voting boomers is not possible, especially to admit non-white island nations.  20+years at least, unless we have some crazy world events (civil war in Mexico has USA annexing) redraw maps.  I know the State borders changed dramaticly as the country expanded west but I see us as locked in for now.
gigantic ban on gerrymandering and electoral fraud
This is the only other good legistlation they might get through before Tea Party 3.0 gets control.  It (fair redistricting) might even give the USA enough time to escape our current white-minority-rule death spiral we're in now.
NINEv2
there are too many of them; 33% of the government, population, sherrifs etc.
1/3 of the population wants to murder another 1/3 while the rest would watch on TV
 
2020-10-29 4:19:47 AM  

BafflerMeal: nytmare: Quick and Dirty: I look back on my childhood and hear the same rhetoric coming from them as I heard from the pulpit back in the 80's, and all I can see is a direct line through it all. I see a line of fear, paranoia, and delusion -- I see a bunch of people who are really out of touch with the world, but this time they're a bit more than just some fringe lunatics.

Back then all they had was AM radio and photocopied newsletters. Now they have Fox News Channel prime-time with a full line-up of fear-mongering hate-spewing pundits spouting conspiracy theories and stirring up frothy divisive BS, and an Internet full of malevolent trolls both foreign and domestic eagerly contributing the same.

When I was a kid in the before-times, I remember plastered-up posters on highway overpass columns. Various Bircher shiat, vatican is the devil, the UN is evil, etc... It was fascinating to me how that shiat worked. Simone had a print shop somewhere dedicated to this stuff and pickups to roam around in the dead of might throwing this stuff up.

/Tbh, I always wanted a pristine copy of some of these posters for the lulz.


You may not have those posters, but here are some similar parody ones (scroll down a bit for them)

https://scarfolk.blogspot.com/
 
2020-10-29 4:23:07 AM  
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2020-10-29 4:24:16 AM  

Quick and Dirty: This goes back decades. In my own life I can remember Ruby Ridge, and then Waco TX. Back then everyone on the fringe were yelling about the government and the "mark of the devil".

None of that happened, but we did get the OKC bombing, and once again the people in my circles were frothing at the mouth.

Then 911 happened and there was now a new boogeyman: Islam. We've been fighting that for decades too.

Then Obama got elected and "oh sh*t!" they're taking our guns! Jade Helm -- JADE HELM! But that never happened.

Then there were the Bundys and all their standoffs with the government -- the sovereign citizens movement and all that bullsh*t.

And now we're coming up on groups like the proud boys, the boogaloos, and the three percenters -- people who are actively seeking to tear down our democracy.

I look back on my childhood and hear the same rhetoric coming from them as I heard from the pulpit back in the 80's, and all I can see is a direct line through it all. I see a line of fear, paranoia, and delusion -- I see a bunch of people who are really out of touch with the world, but this time they're a bit more than just some fringe lunatics.

I see a bunch of people who are so worried about the collapse of democracy and free speech & whatnot, but what they don't realize is they're marching in lockstep with the wrong side of history.

I see generations far-removed from the atrocities of war -- people who speak dreamily of combat as if it were something to be glorified -- people who are really looking forward to some sort of civil war.

And within that I see hope -- within that I see a sense of good people desiring only the best potluck for the good people around them -- I see lot's and lot's of people out there getting out the vote!


You know what ties that line together?  Religious ass-hattery with right wing politics...All that bullshat
comes right back down to shatheel grifters like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell,Robert Tilton, Jim Bakker etc..etc..
These people are truly monsters..Luckily time is on our side, and most of the original grifters are dying off,
and most of their progeny have been exposed as terrible people or are so ashamed that they  have
abandon the family grift or even undermining it with expose' of it..
 
2020-10-29 5:42:15 AM  
"It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times."
 
2020-10-29 5:49:17 AM  
from the comments:

The screen looks like the view from Ivanka's bedroom window...
 
2020-10-29 6:05:21 AM  
World history has always been a struggle between those who seek to progress mankind's state in the world and those who want to stop forward movement because it makes them scared and uncomfortable.

Imagine where the world would be today if we could have had unimpeded progress through out history.
Imagine how many brilliant minds were silenced or never even given the chance to contribute their gifts because of the color of their skin or who they did or did not worship ?

For a brief moment in the in the late 70s I thought mankind might escape this struggle, but then came Reagan and the cesspool started to fill once again.
 
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