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2020-10-28 11:46:24 PM  
Full green without a comment for an hour about the most disruptive GPU release in 9 years? Subby must have posted like, a the Verge link, or something, instead of a reputable tech review site.

Not gonna lie, the 6900 XT being able to go head to head with an RTX 3090 is genuinely awesome.  The top-tier space desperately needed AMD to return to put some competition in there.  Of course the independent benchmarks will confirm things still, AMD has not been entirely honest in the past regarding its GPUs stacking up against Nvidia's offerings.

I am pleasantly optimistic at what the next few months of Nvidia's blase attitude towards availability of their own products vs AMD showing up with something that can meet them on the nose, at a lower price point to boot.
 
2020-10-28 11:51:35 PM  
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2020-10-29 12:22:25 AM  

BumpInTheNight: Full green without a comment for an hour about the most disruptive GPU release in 9 years? Subby must have posted like, a the Verge link, or something, instead of a reputable tech review site.

Not gonna lie, the 6900 XT being able to go head to head with an RTX 3090 is genuinely awesome.  The top-tier space desperately needed AMD to return to put some competition in there.  Of course the independent benchmarks will confirm things still, AMD has not been entirely honest in the past regarding its GPUs stacking up against Nvidia's offerings.

I am pleasantly optimistic at what the next few months of Nvidia's blase attitude towards availability of their own products vs AMD showing up with something that can meet them on the nose, at a lower price point to boot.


If AMD's claims are accurate, this is awesome. Two legitimate high quality CPU and GPU competitors would be amazing.

Of course, while Ryzen has given AMD a legitimacy they haven't had in quite some years, they have a strong history of way overselling shiat, especially GPUs.
 
2020-10-29 1:14:28 AM  

dywed88: BumpInTheNight: Full green without a comment for an hour about the most disruptive GPU release in 9 years? Subby must have posted like, a the Verge link, or something, instead of a reputable tech review site.

Not gonna lie, the 6900 XT being able to go head to head with an RTX 3090 is genuinely awesome.  The top-tier space desperately needed AMD to return to put some competition in there.  Of course the independent benchmarks will confirm things still, AMD has not been entirely honest in the past regarding its GPUs stacking up against Nvidia's offerings.

I am pleasantly optimistic at what the next few months of Nvidia's blase attitude towards availability of their own products vs AMD showing up with something that can meet them on the nose, at a lower price point to boot.

If AMD's claims are accurate, this is awesome. Two legitimate high quality CPU and GPU competitors would be amazing.

Of course, while Ryzen has given AMD a legitimacy they haven't had in quite some years, they have a strong history of way overselling shiat, especially GPUs.


With leaked benchmarks... a card from AMD is kicking nVidia's ass in all but Ray Tracing scores.

There's 3 ways this can go.

It's the 6800, the 6800 XT, or the 6900 XT. And yes that naming scheme sucks.

If it's the 6800 kicking the RTX 3080... nVidia  is farked completely and totally and their 3090 won't save them. If it's the 6800 XT, nVidia is worried as hell. If it's the the 6900 XT, nVidia better bring it when they release the 3090. If it's the 6900 XT, considering it's $500 cheaper than nVidia's top of the line, that's still a huge business problem for nVidia. If it's either of the two lower cards, then nVidia has a technical and a business problem.

This is a price win no matter what else happens at this point. And if AMD can actually have stock when they release, this could be the worst year for nVidia in decades.
 
2020-10-29 1:17:42 AM  
I look forward to considering buying one in 5 years when the price has aligned with my budget.
 
2020-10-29 2:35:33 AM  
The rest of us mortals appreciate these prices dropping faster than a Baron full of doctors after the crypto mining bubble burst.
 
2020-10-29 2:46:52 AM  

Quantumbunny: dywed88: BumpInTheNight: Full green without a comment for an hour about the most disruptive GPU release in 9 years? Subby must have posted like, a the Verge link, or something, instead of a reputable tech review site.

Not gonna lie, the 6900 XT being able to go head to head with an RTX 3090 is genuinely awesome.  The top-tier space desperately needed AMD to return to put some competition in there.  Of course the independent benchmarks will confirm things still, AMD has not been entirely honest in the past regarding its GPUs stacking up against Nvidia's offerings.

I am pleasantly optimistic at what the next few months of Nvidia's blase attitude towards availability of their own products vs AMD showing up with something that can meet them on the nose, at a lower price point to boot.

If AMD's claims are accurate, this is awesome. Two legitimate high quality CPU and GPU competitors would be amazing.

Of course, while Ryzen has given AMD a legitimacy they haven't had in quite some years, they have a strong history of way overselling shiat, especially GPUs.

With leaked benchmarks... a card from AMD is kicking nVidia's ass in all but Ray Tracing scores.

There's 3 ways this can go.

It's the 6800, the 6800 XT, or the 6900 XT. And yes that naming scheme sucks.

If it's the 6800 kicking the RTX 3080... nVidia  is farked completely and totally and their 3090 won't save them. If it's the 6800 XT, nVidia is worried as hell. If it's the the 6900 XT, nVidia better bring it when they release the 3090. If it's the 6900 XT, considering it's $500 cheaper than nVidia's top of the line, that's still a huge business problem for nVidia. If it's either of the two lower cards, then nVidia has a technical and a business problem.

This is a price win no matter what else happens at this point. And if AMD can actually have stock when they release, this could be the worst year for nVidia in decades.


Yeah, I am going to wait until we have more than a leaked synthetic benchmark score before getting excited. I am extremely hopeful, but lets get some independent sources for real world performance under various conditions.
 
2020-10-29 6:22:56 AM  

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Meh I've had more problems with nVidia, at least under Linux, than AMD.

If AMD can release a large number of inexpensive cards and not have the entire supply instantly bought up by scalpers, it'll be a better choice than the current nVidia offering regardless because you'll actually be able to get one without mortgaging your house to pay off some eBay asshole for it.
 
2020-10-29 7:28:24 AM  
I've got a 5700 and it's an awesome card... But those damn drivers. It wasn't sorted out until this summer.
 
2020-10-29 8:02:08 AM  
I'm pleased the high end is looking good, but man it sucks that both companies have so abandoned low and midrange markets.

The minimum price of entry for a new videocard is now nearly $600.  There is no word on anything from ether in the $300 range, which is pretty much the midrange point of old.

but yet $400 gets me a console with similar guts to the $600 gpu's, 500 if you want physical disks.  $300 gets you something similar, if quite cut down.

Lots of PC gamers still rock 1080P monitors and are pretty much left out in the cold feature wise these days.  Surely they can make a $300 card with raytracing focused at 1080p/1440p.
 
2020-10-29 8:22:24 AM  

Antimatter: I'm pleased the high end is looking good, but man it sucks that both companies have so abandoned low and midrange markets.

The minimum price of entry for a new videocard is now nearly $600.  There is no word on anything from ether in the $300 range, which is pretty much the midrange point of old.

but yet $400 gets me a console with similar guts to the $600 gpu's, 500 if you want physical disks.  $300 gets you something similar, if quite cut down.

Lots of PC gamers still rock 1080P monitors and are pretty much left out in the cold feature wise these days.  Surely they can make a $300 card with raytracing focused at 1080p/1440p.


The midrange/lower stuff almost always comes out later. Both companies focus on their top tiers first. The reality is that the 3070/3080 and the 6800/6800XT are basically just the top tier cards that didn't make the cut, and often the lower end is a physically different die. Plus, both companies' current offerings near-ish the $300 range (the 2060 and the 5600xt) are decent midrange cards at the moment, and they don't want to eat into those sales quite yet.
 
2020-10-29 8:28:08 AM  

hawcian: The midrange/lower stuff almost always comes out later. Both companies focus on their top tiers first. The reality is that the 3070/3080 and the 6800/6800XT are basically just the top tier cards that didn't make the cut, and often the lower end is a physically different die. Plus, both companies' current offerings near-ish the $300 range (the 2060 and the 5600xt) are decent midrange cards at the moment, and they don't want to eat into those sales quite yet.


This, yah the mid-range and entry level cards will show up more in time to fulfill christmas purchasing, and for all those reasons about trying to sell off the last gen's volume and try to entice people who normally only splash out for mid-range cards to maybe try out a stronger one rather then waiting.
 
2020-10-29 9:27:25 AM  
Tried to buy the Nvidia 3070 online as soon as it was released this morning. After a few attempts I was able to get one in my cart, but at check out they were out of stock. Was signed into my BestBuy account and everything.

Of course if you look on Ebay, scalpers have already started listed them at a $400 to $500 markup.

Assholes.

Guess I'll wait until AMD is available, but that is probably also going to be a clusterfark.
 
2020-10-29 10:06:44 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Tried to buy the Nvidia 3070 online as soon as it was released this morning. After a few attempts I was able to get one in my cart, but at check out they were out of stock. Was signed into my BestBuy account and everything.

Of course if you look on Ebay, scalpers have already started listed them at a $400 to $500 markup.

Assholes.

Guess I'll wait until AMD is available, but that is probably also going to be a clusterfark.


Scalpers use bots that grab as many as possible far faster then a human can.  Retailers need to create ways of getting around that.

Target for example has a strict "Ship to store pickup" for Ps5 at release, one per customer.  If you don't actually show up to get it, its refunded and sold to someone else.
 
2020-10-29 10:39:44 AM  

Antimatter: Lots of PC gamers still rock 1080P monitors and are pretty much left out in the cold feature wise these days. Surely they can make a $300 card with raytracing focused at 1080p/1440p.


I'm sure they could, and most gamers are still gaming at 1080P.

But why sell a card at $300 that can handle ray tracing, when you can sell at card at $500 and up that handles ray tracing?
 
2020-10-29 12:06:20 PM  

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Meh I've had more problems with nVidia, at least under Linux, than AMD.

If AMD can release a large number of inexpensive cards and not have the entire supply instantly bought up by scalpers, it'll be a better choice than the current nVidia offering regardless because you'll actually be able to get one without mortgaging your house to pay off some eBay asshole for it.


Does video-linux support AMD? I know there are nvidia specific drivers, but I don't ever come across AMD. video-linux has been great for any computer I've set up.

(I don't know for sure, I just use onboard video, I only play games from when I was a kid, like warcraft 2)
 
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