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(Business Insider)   "The federal units brought in to "police" Portland protests weren't really "police" in any meaningful sense of the word. They were an armed extension of the Trump Administration"   (businessinsider.com) divider line
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2020-10-28 3:26:36 PM  
Well, to be fair, the Reichstag was burning. Trump had no other option.

(There is, of course, no reason to be fair. Fascists don't deserve any breaks.)
 
2020-10-28 3:38:55 PM  
Huh. Who'd have thought creating a tactical team that primarily works with undocumented migrants with very little oversight or public view would lead to them becoming armed violent thugs?
 
2020-10-28 3:49:57 PM  
No sh*t. That was clear from day one.
 
2020-10-28 3:52:55 PM  
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(BTW, that Navy vet who embarrassed Trump's LARPcorps is 53.)
 
2020-10-28 3:59:31 PM  
...and yet they still failed to get their Krystallnacht.

That must sting a bit. To have tried so very hard, and just bred MOAR protests.
 
2020-10-28 4:20:56 PM  
LAW AND ORDER!
 
2020-10-28 4:21:03 PM  
Yeah, we know. It's why no one they kidnapped faced charges, they'd have had to out themselves as kidnappers.
 
2020-10-28 4:21:11 PM  
Day ending in -y, wetness of water confirmed, sky is blue, your dog wants steak.
 
2020-10-28 4:21:12 PM  
So actual gestapo. Well it's good to know I have no obligation to respect whatever authority they think they have.
 
2020-10-28 4:21:35 PM  
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2020-10-28 4:23:43 PM  
I'm guessing the obvious tag was tear-gassed, beaten with a baton, shot with a few rubber bullets, curb-stomped, and finally snatched by those same federal units before subby could use it here.
 
2020-10-28 4:23:58 PM  

thehobbes: Huh. Who'd have thought creating a tactical team that primarily works with undocumented migrants with very little oversight or public view would lead to them becoming armed violent thugs?


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2020-10-28 4:24:29 PM  
Trump has turned ICE into his Gestapo and now he is turning his loyalists into brownshirts and turning America into a third world shiathole country.
 
2020-10-28 4:24:32 PM  

Weatherkiss: LAW AND ORDER!


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2020-10-28 4:25:48 PM  
Why are all these weasels such wimpy little wimps and weasels?
 
2020-10-28 4:26:24 PM  
And about 40% of Americans want more of this gestapo shiat. We need to give more tanks to the police, and shield them from any prosecution. I think someone recently called it "qualified impunity."

Biden might win, but the American Nazis aren't going anywhere.
 
2020-10-28 4:27:15 PM  
Perhaps Subby doesn't realize law enforcement always has and does still indeed fall under the executive branch (or maybe just thinks this would be news to you?)
 
2020-10-28 4:27:29 PM  
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2020-10-28 4:28:13 PM  
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2020-10-28 4:30:07 PM  
 
2020-10-28 4:30:24 PM  
It sure would be a real shame if protesters start defending themselves against these thugs with deadly force.
 
2020-10-28 4:30:29 PM  
Well then if they're not police, it should be legal for the real police to put some bullets in their farking heads.
 
2020-10-28 4:31:13 PM  
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2020-10-28 4:33:41 PM  
You people make it seem like having a law enforcement organization that is militarized, has no oversight, and only answers to someone who demonizes his opponents is a bad thing.
 
2020-10-28 4:34:25 PM  
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2020-10-28 4:34:32 PM  

aaronx: (There is, of course, no reason to be fair. Fascists don't deserve any breaks.)


They do deserve broken necks.
(picture of hanging gnat-zee)
 
2020-10-28 4:36:57 PM  

GrinzGrimly: Perhaps Subby doesn't realize law enforcement always has and does still indeed fall under the executive branch (or maybe just thinks this would be news to you?)


Yeah, Federal law enforcement - not your local dog catcher, Einstein.
And the laws that the aforementioned law enforcement may enforce are determined by Congress, not the executive.
Drumft needs to stay in his lane, and within his depth.
 
2020-10-28 4:39:43 PM  
America's terrifying future where mobs are prevented from destroying a federal courthouse. Oh my!
 
2020-10-28 4:40:12 PM  
People with badges, guns, and arrest authority aren't police?

I grew up white and male and even I never associated that word with the police mythology that they exist to be our friends. Perhaps our first step isn't to pretend that is what "police" has ever meant. I'm no ACAB guy, as I'm certain I don't need to tell anyone here, but stop playing make believe. We've seen what city and state police departments do. Why pretend that BORTACers aren't a form of police when they act the same way?

Should we be deploying them, or any police, to quell protests? No.
 
2020-10-28 4:40:46 PM  
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After we boot Trump, this is the name you need to include in your calls to your Reps and Senators. Disband these farkers.
 
2020-10-28 4:41:26 PM  

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I now wonder if they make a printed TP with that blue line flag, and if it is decent quality.
 
2020-10-28 4:44:16 PM  

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After we boot Trump, this is the name you need to include in your calls to your Reps and Senators. Disband these farkers.


"Were you speaking to me?"

"No, my fascist Gestapo is also named BORTAC."

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2020-10-28 4:46:02 PM  
The modern day Schutzstaffel.
 
2020-10-28 4:49:14 PM  
I'm not convinced the "rioters" were rioters.  It was very common in the anti-Vietnam War era that the most militant and outlandish protesters were actually undercover cops pulled out of the academy who's job it was to be so provocative as to turn public favor against the anti-war movement.

You're telling me that the unemployed Biden supporters who are lighting gas canisters on fire, showing up with expensive gas masks, and are doing this every night for months without some form of work are funded by Soros and not Portland Police Bureau?
 
2020-10-28 4:49:30 PM  
They should call themselves the "Republican Guard". That has a nice ring to it, I bet nobody else in the world has used that.
 
2020-10-28 4:49:41 PM  

jso2897: GrinzGrimly: Perhaps Subby doesn't realize law enforcement always has and does still indeed fall under the executive branch (or maybe just thinks this would be news to you?)

Yeah, Federal law enforcement - not your local dog catcher, Einstein.
And the laws that the aforementioned law enforcement may enforce are determined by Congress, not the executive.
Drumft needs to stay in his lane, and within his depth.


My bad, must have misread the article. Thought it was about US Marshalls, not dog catchers. Good catch on your part!
 
2020-10-28 4:51:22 PM  

Weatherkiss: LAW AND ORDER!


RIZZOLI AND ISLES!!
 
2020-10-28 4:51:46 PM  

GrinzGrimly: Perhaps Subby doesn't realize law enforcement always has and does still indeed fall under the executive branch (or maybe just thinks this would be news to you?)


Local law enforcement is a matter of state and municipal law, not federal law.  This is straight up Gestapo shiat.

But states' rights don't matter, do they?
 
2020-10-28 4:52:48 PM  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: America's terrifying future where mobs are prevented from destroying a federal courthouse. Oh my!


The Reichstag Fire angle has already been covered, Klaus.
 
2020-10-28 4:54:17 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: I'm not convinced the "rioters" were rioters.  It was very common in the anti-Vietnam War era that the most militant and outlandish protesters were actually undercover cops pulled out of the academy who's job it was to be so provocative as to turn public favor against the anti-war movement.

You're telling me that the unemployed Biden supporters who are lighting gas canisters on fire, showing up with expensive gas masks, and are doing this every night for months without some form of work are funded by Soros and not Portland Police Bureau?


I've no doubt many of them are instigators unrelated to BLM. At the same time, thinking back to many of the early protest threads here, there is clearly no shortage of progressives who embrace the idea of burning shiat down as part of protesting. So I wouldn't be surprised there were some of those types showing up too.
 
2020-10-28 4:57:40 PM  
The entire time they were here I was hoping someone would run them over with a rented U-Haul.
 
2020-10-28 4:59:19 PM  
Thank fully the local gun totting militia members who swore to stop any government uprising showed up and put a stop to it.

/Oh, wait a minute...
 
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2020-10-28 5:00:17 PM  

inglixthemad: I'm guessing the obvious tag was tear-gassed, beaten with a baton, shot with a few rubber bullets, curb-stomped, and finally snatched by those same federal units before subby could use it here.


Came here to post virtually this exact comment...

Leaving satisfied.
 
2020-10-28 5:01:45 PM  

Raoul Eaton: GrinzGrimly: Perhaps Subby doesn't realize law enforcement always has and does still indeed fall under the executive branch (or maybe just thinks this would be news to you?)

Local law enforcement is a matter of state and municipal law, not federal law.  This is straight up Gestapo shiat.

But states' rights don't matter, do they?


Federal property (courthouses, Social Security Administration buildings, monuments, etc) falls under federal jurisdiction. It's unusual to have a situation where local law enforcement is unable to protect it themselves, but when that occurs, the feds step in where local LEOs failed.
 
2020-10-28 5:02:52 PM  

GrinzGrimly: jso2897: GrinzGrimly: Perhaps Subby doesn't realize law enforcement always has and does still indeed fall under the executive branch (or maybe just thinks this would be news to you?)

Yeah, Federal law enforcement - not your local dog catcher, Einstein.
And the laws that the aforementioned law enforcement may enforce are determined by Congress, not the executive.
Drumft needs to stay in his lane, and within his depth.

My bad, must have misread the article. Thought it was about US Marshalls, not dog catchers. Good catch on your part!


Congrats on doubling down on being obtuse. U.S. Constitution and Federal Law are not your strong suits. So move along to the flashy toys and whizbang things. This thread is for people who do understand basic US civics.

/ or have I been obtuse, not realizing you are intentionally ignorant, with an almost troll like quality?
 
2020-10-28 5:17:36 PM  
How much does it actually matter if these were "real police" when the "real police" act the exact same way? It's not as if the police in Portland haven't been involved with and supporting Trump's federal units.
 
2020-10-28 5:22:14 PM  

drunk_bouncnbaloruber: I'm not convinced the "rioters" were rioters.  It was very common in the anti-Vietnam War era that the most militant and outlandish protesters were actually undercover cops pulled out of the academy who's job it was to be so provocative as to turn public favor against the anti-war movement.

You're telling me that the unemployed Biden supporters who are lighting gas canisters on fire, showing up with expensive gas masks, and are doing this every night for months without some form of work are funded by Soros and not Portland Police Bureau?


You either have become completely detached from reality or didn't bother paying attention to the rioting for months. It was night after night of obvious far left radicals finally having their moment in the sun to show off all the direct action tactics they've been reading about.

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2020-10-28 5:22:39 PM  

Smackledorfer: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: I'm not convinced the "rioters" were rioters.  It was very common in the anti-Vietnam War era that the most militant and outlandish protesters were actually undercover cops pulled out of the academy who's job it was to be so provocative as to turn public favor against the anti-war movement.

You're telling me that the unemployed Biden supporters who are lighting gas canisters on fire, showing up with expensive gas masks, and are doing this every night for months without some form of work are funded by Soros and not Portland Police Bureau?

I've no doubt many of them are instigators unrelated to BLM. At the same time, thinking back to many of the early protest threads here, there is clearly no shortage of progressives who embrace the idea of burning shiat down as part of protesting. So I wouldn't be surprised there were some of those types showing up too.


That is why agitprops have always been so successful. No group is a homogenous, there are always those in any group that crave more violence (plus whatever the group stands for.) And the more decentralized a group is the easier it is to foment violent actions.  And protests are most often very decentralized.
 
2020-10-28 5:28:22 PM  

Xzano: Smackledorfer: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: I'm not convinced the "rioters" were rioters.  It was very common in the anti-Vietnam War era that the most militant and outlandish protesters were actually undercover cops pulled out of the academy who's job it was to be so provocative as to turn public favor against the anti-war movement.

You're telling me that the unemployed Biden supporters who are lighting gas canisters on fire, showing up with expensive gas masks, and are doing this every night for months without some form of work are funded by Soros and not Portland Police Bureau?

I've no doubt many of them are instigators unrelated to BLM. At the same time, thinking back to many of the early protest threads here, there is clearly no shortage of progressives who embrace the idea of burning shiat down as part of protesting. So I wouldn't be surprised there were some of those types showing up too.

That is why agitprops have always been so successful. No group is a homogenous, there are always those in any group that crave more violence (plus whatever the group stands for.) And the more decentralized a group is the easier it is to foment violent actions.  And protests are most often very decentralized.


SanityIsAFullTimeJob: drunk_bouncnbaloruber: I'm not convinced the "rioters" were rioters.  It was very common in the anti-Vietnam War era that the most militant and outlandish protesters were actually undercover cops pulled out of the academy who's job it was to be so provocative as to turn public favor against the anti-war movement.

You're telling me that the unemployed Biden supporters who are lighting gas canisters on fire, showing up with expensive gas masks, and are doing this every night for months without some form of work are funded by Soros and not Portland Police Bureau?

You either have become completely detached from reality or didn't bother paying attention to the rioting for months. It was night after night of obvious far left radicals finally having their moment in the sun to show off all the direct action tactics they've been reading about.

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"Rioting"  uh huh.

Clutch them pearls tighter
 
2020-10-28 5:32:39 PM  
I think a close look at BORTAC personnel records, particularly the disciplinary actions, is in order. Special attention to be paid to training personnel, uniform code of conduct, hiring practices. If BORTAC really is rife with bad apples then they have to be identified and eliminated. No goon squads operating on the taxpayers dime.
 
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