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(History Channel)   On this day in history, in 1919, Congress passed the Volstead act, enabling Prohibition. They would have been roundly mocked, but boos had just been outlawed   (history.com) divider line
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2020-10-28 2:51:25 PM  
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2020-10-28 2:55:33 PM  
Well, I'll drink to that!
 
2020-10-28 4:19:34 PM  
Clap clap.
 
2020-10-28 4:20:53 PM  
Huh. I just queued up The Untouchables while pouring myself a gin and tonic. Kismet.
 
2020-10-28 4:21:32 PM  

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It doesn't seem like enough PUNishment.
 
2020-10-28 4:21:45 PM  
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2020-10-28 4:21:59 PM  
I think they should bring back prohibition just for Subby.
 
2020-10-28 4:22:10 PM  

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They could have just sent him to the punitentiary.
 
2020-10-28 4:23:52 PM  
Stop the suffraging!

Men go to war, they come back and women have gotten the vote and banned fun.
 
2020-10-28 4:24:04 PM  
Now they need to legalize marijuana, full blown.


There are exactly a total of TWO states that still have total prohibition, Idaho and South Dakota.
 
2020-10-28 4:25:47 PM  
Great headline.
 
2020-10-28 4:26:49 PM  
Prohibition may have been the strangest bedfellows in the history US Politics:  the women's suffrage movement and its related Temperance crusaders on one hand, and the KKK who was at the peak of its power (they hated booze partly because they tended to be Baptists and Partly because those filthy papists loved it so much)
 
2020-10-28 4:29:32 PM  

geekbikerskum: mjjt: [Fark user image 417x750]

They could have just sent him to the punitentiary.


I guess they felt they had sufficient proof.
 
2020-10-28 4:31:24 PM  
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2020-10-28 4:32:06 PM  
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/this is some HOTY shiat right here
 
2020-10-28 4:32:54 PM  
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2020-10-28 4:36:02 PM  

Magorn: Prohibition may have been the strangest bedfellows in the history US Politics:  the women's suffrage movement and its related Temperance crusaders on one hand, and the KKK who was at the peak of its power (they hated booze partly because they tended to be Baptists and Partly because those filthy papists loved it so much)


Yeah it was weird the more I looked into it and the Ken Burns Doc on it was pretty good too. Plus hey gave us all them mob movies in the future.
 
2020-10-28 4:43:06 PM  
100 years later and we haven't learned a damn thing.  As soon as prohibition failed they found another substance that has been used for all of recorded history and demonized it.  Doesn't matter that the cure is worse than the disease, we're going to keep spending millions upon millions of dollars in a futile effort to stop people from doing something some crusty old white guys don't like.
 
2020-10-28 4:43:30 PM  
Boardwalk Empire Episode 1 - Best Party Ever!
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2020-10-28 4:44:29 PM  
And to this day, people still seem to think prohibition works
 
2020-10-28 4:44:44 PM  
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2020-10-28 4:46:56 PM  
HotY vote. Nicely done, Subbs.

/ I chuckled at the wit.
 
2020-10-28 4:47:58 PM  

whidbey: Now they need to legalize marijuana, full blown.


There are exactly a total of TWO states that still have total prohibition, Idaho and South Dakota.


Considering that weed was illegalized through the efforst of a) Anslinger, last head of Prohibition, who wanted to keep a government job, b) Hearst, who had just bought three or four wood-pulp paper mills (very much NOT SMALL), and c) to keep down the Black, Brown, and Poors....
 
2020-10-28 5:03:50 PM  
Yeah, I'll toss another HOTY candidate vote in the ring - that's a thing of beauty right there.
 
2020-10-28 5:10:09 PM  

Ragin' Asian: Huh. I just queued up The Untouchables while pouring myself a gin and tonic. Kismet.


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2020-10-28 5:11:39 PM  

Snort: mjjt: [Fark user image 417x750]

It doesn't seem like enough PUNishment.


You must be pun at farties
 
2020-10-28 5:13:07 PM  
Betty Boo - Hangover (Official Music Video)
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2020-10-28 5:13:55 PM  
Puns?

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2020-10-28 5:25:29 PM  

LewDux: Snort: mjjt: [Fark user image 417x750]

It doesn't seem like enough PUNishment.

You must be pun at farties


Pull my finger.
 
2020-10-28 5:32:14 PM  
This is my happening, and it freaks me out!

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(roundabout reference to topic at hand)
 
2020-10-28 5:43:00 PM  
Well played subby, well played.
 
2020-10-28 6:30:35 PM  
HOTY candidate
 
2020-10-28 6:43:50 PM  

Neondistraction: 100 years later and we haven't learned a damn thing.  As soon as prohibition failed they found another substance that has been used for all of recorded history and demonized it.  Doesn't matter that the cure is worse than the disease, we're going to keep spending millions upon millions of dollars in a futile effort to stop people from doing something some crusty old white guys don't like.


Isn't reefer legal in one form or another for the vast majority of this country?  Seems like we learned the lesson or haven't your heard?
 
2020-10-28 7:10:11 PM  
Part of the reason so many women were against alcohol was because their partners would get drunk, come home, and abuse them and/or their children. Laws weren't in place to protect them in abusive relationships, so they saw prohibiting alcohol as a way to protect themselves.
 
2020-10-28 7:31:13 PM  

Eightballjacket: Neondistraction: 100 years later and we haven't learned a damn thing.  As soon as prohibition failed they found another substance that has been used for all of recorded history and demonized it.  Doesn't matter that the cure is worse than the disease, we're going to keep spending millions upon millions of dollars in a futile effort to stop people from doing something some crusty old white guys don't like.

Isn't reefer legal in one form or another for the vast majority of this country?  Seems like we learned the lesson or haven't your heard?


It's not legal anywhere in the country (if you mean the United States). It's listed in the Controlled Substances Act of 1970 as a Schedule I substance, determined to have a high potential for abuse and no accepted medical use - thereby prohibiting even medical use of the drug at the federal level, which overrides every state law to the contrary.
 
2020-10-28 7:40:05 PM  

Eightballjacket: Neondistraction: 100 years later and we haven't learned a damn thing.  As soon as prohibition failed they found another substance that has been used for all of recorded history and demonized it.  Doesn't matter that the cure is worse than the disease, we're going to keep spending millions upon millions of dollars in a futile effort to stop people from doing something some crusty old white guys don't like.

Isn't reefer legal in one form or another for the vast majority of this country?  Seems like we learned the lesson or haven't your heard?


Once we can get the DEA to get MJ dropped from Schedule 1 to at least Schedule 3 of the Controlled Substances Act...
 
2020-10-28 7:44:16 PM  

Alien Robot: Eightballjacket: Neondistraction: 100 years later and we haven't learned a damn thing.  As soon as prohibition failed they found another substance that has been used for all of recorded history and demonized it.  Doesn't matter that the cure is worse than the disease, we're going to keep spending millions upon millions of dollars in a futile effort to stop people from doing something some crusty old white guys don't like.

Isn't reefer legal in one form or another for the vast majority of this country?  Seems like we learned the lesson or haven't your heard?

It's not legal anywhere in the country (if you mean the United States). It's listed in the Controlled Substances Act of 1970 as a Schedule I substance, determined to have a high potential for abuse and no accepted medical use - thereby prohibiting even medical use of the drug at the federal level, which overrides every state law to the contrary.


It's legal everywhere. The feds can't seat a jury to convict for pot in the dankest corner of the bible belt. Federal prosecutors know this. Guess what metric they care most about?
 
2020-10-28 7:44:43 PM  
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2020-10-28 7:52:04 PM  

The knight who says EkiEkiPoontang: Alien Robot: Eightballjacket: Neondistraction: 100 years later and we haven't learned a damn thing.  As soon as prohibition failed they found another substance that has been used for all of recorded history and demonized it.  Doesn't matter that the cure is worse than the disease, we're going to keep spending millions upon millions of dollars in a futile effort to stop people from doing something some crusty old white guys don't like.

Isn't reefer legal in one form or another for the vast majority of this country?  Seems like we learned the lesson or haven't your heard?

It's not legal anywhere in the country (if you mean the United States). It's listed in the Controlled Substances Act of 1970 as a Schedule I substance, determined to have a high potential for abuse and no accepted medical use - thereby prohibiting even medical use of the drug at the federal level, which overrides every state law to the contrary.

It's legal everywhere. The feds can't seat a jury to convict for pot in the dankest corner of the bible belt. Federal prosecutors know this. Guess what metric they care most about?


That doesn't make it legal - it makes it unenforceable. Big difference.
 
2020-10-28 7:55:18 PM  

ClavellBCMI: Isn't reefer legal in one form or another for the vast majority of this country?  Seems like we learned the lesson or haven't your heard?

Once we can get the DEA to get MJ dropped from Schedule 1 to at least Schedule 3 of the Controlled Substances Act...


Why didn't the Obama/Biden administration do that? "Stroke of the pen - law of the land" / Executive Order and all that.
 
2020-10-28 8:15:40 PM  

Alien Robot: Eightballjacket: Neondistraction: 100 years later and we haven't learned a damn thing.  As soon as prohibition failed they found another substance that has been used for all of recorded history and demonized it.  Doesn't matter that the cure is worse than the disease, we're going to keep spending millions upon millions of dollars in a futile effort to stop people from doing something some crusty old white guys don't like.

Isn't reefer legal in one form or another for the vast majority of this country?  Seems like we learned the lesson or haven't your heard?

It's not legal anywhere in the country (if you mean the United States). It's listed in the Controlled Substances Act of 1970 as a Schedule I substance, determined to have a high potential for abuse and no accepted medical use - thereby prohibiting even medical use of the drug at the federal level, which overrides every state law to the contrary.


States Rights!

But only when it aligns to my existing values. Because I have no critical thinking skills.
 
2020-10-28 8:16:45 PM  

Eightballjacket: Neondistraction: 100 years later and we haven't learned a damn thing.  As soon as prohibition failed they found another substance that has been used for all of recorded history and demonized it.  Doesn't matter that the cure is worse than the disease, we're going to keep spending millions upon millions of dollars in a futile effort to stop people from doing something some crusty old white guys don't like.

Isn't reefer legal in one form or another for the vast majority of this country?  Seems like we learned the lesson or haven't your heard?


We've made some steps in the right direction, but there are still plenty of states where it's not even a little bit legal.  Most of them are red states, which is odd considering republicans are supposed to be all about personal liberties and small government.  When the federal government legalizes it, or at least removes it from schedule 1 then I'll say we've learned something.
 
2020-10-28 8:17:09 PM  
Also, good job subby.

It is hard to make a pun work.
 
2020-10-28 8:35:46 PM  

Alien Robot: ClavellBCMI: Isn't reefer legal in one form or another for the vast majority of this country?  Seems like we learned the lesson or haven't your heard?

Once we can get the DEA to get MJ dropped from Schedule 1 to at least Schedule 3 of the Controlled Substances Act...

Why didn't the Obama/Biden administration do that? "Stroke of the pen - law of the land" / Executive Order and all that.


He did instruct the DOJ to not interfere with the states that had passed laws legalizing marijuana so long as they kept a tight leash on it.  That's why the first dispensaries in Colorado and Washington didn't get raided by the DEA even though they'd long been targeting medical dispensaries in California.
 
2020-10-28 8:40:35 PM  

FleshMonkey: Alien Robot: Eightballjacket: Neondistraction: 100 years later and we haven't learned a damn thing.  As soon as prohibition failed they found another substance that has been used for all of recorded history and demonized it.  Doesn't matter that the cure is worse than the disease, we're going to keep spending millions upon millions of dollars in a futile effort to stop people from doing something some crusty old white guys don't like.

Isn't reefer legal in one form or another for the vast majority of this country?  Seems like we learned the lesson or haven't your heard?

It's not legal anywhere in the country (if you mean the United States). It's listed in the Controlled Substances Act of 1970 as a Schedule I substance, determined to have a high potential for abuse and no accepted medical use - thereby prohibiting even medical use of the drug at the federal level, which overrides every state law to the contrary.

States Rights!

But only when it aligns to my existing values. Because I have no critical thinking skills.


Hey, that's not accurate. State's rights are also important when trying to frame the Civil War as not being about slavery.
 
2020-10-28 8:41:10 PM  

Alien Robot: That doesn't make it legal - it makes it unenforceable. Big difference.


As a practical matter, is it really that big a difference?

It's just generational, boomers and younger don't care.

Internationally, federal legalization would matter. We're part of treaty structures that prevent full legalization in lots of nations.
I want real Thai Haze, from the Thai highlands (or Panama as 'Red'). Those are the genes in every good Sativa anyhow (crossbred to grow places not on the equator). They might have to reimport their own genetics, having had decades of eradication efforts. Good thing the Dutch have been on that job for a long time.
 
2020-10-28 8:47:28 PM  
Giving rise to American organized crime.
 
2020-10-28 9:08:28 PM  

Neondistraction: Alien Robot: ClavellBCMI: Isn't reefer legal in one form or another for the vast majority of this country?  Seems like we learned the lesson or haven't your heard?

Once we can get the DEA to get MJ dropped from Schedule 1 to at least Schedule 3 of the Controlled Substances Act...

Why didn't the Obama/Biden administration do that? "Stroke of the pen - law of the land" / Executive Order and all that.

He did instruct the DOJ to not interfere with the states that had passed laws legalizing marijuana so long as they kept a tight leash on it.  That's why the first dispensaries in Colorado and Washington didn't get raided by the DEA even though they'd long been targeting medical dispensaries in California.


No. The DEA eventually stopped targeting any of them as they couldn't get convictions and it blew the federal prosecutors stats up. This happened right about when Colorado legalized. Colorado medical had been getting raided too.

Was independent of politics. Just cops being cops. They hate to lose more than anything.
 
2020-10-28 9:20:59 PM  

The knight who says EkiEkiPoontang: Neondistraction: Alien Robot: ClavellBCMI: Isn't reefer legal in one form or another for the vast majority of this country?  Seems like we learned the lesson or haven't your heard?

Once we can get the DEA to get MJ dropped from Schedule 1 to at least Schedule 3 of the Controlled Substances Act...

Why didn't the Obama/Biden administration do that? "Stroke of the pen - law of the land" / Executive Order and all that.

He did instruct the DOJ to not interfere with the states that had passed laws legalizing marijuana so long as they kept a tight leash on it.  That's why the first dispensaries in Colorado and Washington didn't get raided by the DEA even though they'd long been targeting medical dispensaries in California.

No. The DEA eventually stopped targeting any of them as they couldn't get convictions and it blew the federal prosecutors stats up. This happened right about when Colorado legalized. Colorado medical had been getting raided too.

Was independent of politics. Just cops being cops. They hate to lose more than anything.


Ahh, that makes sense I guess.  I didn't think the DEA cared about convictions, just rolling up and seizing all the cash.
 
2020-10-28 9:58:45 PM  

FleshMonkey: Alien Robot: Eightballjacket: Neondistraction: 100 years later and we haven't learned a damn thing.  As soon as prohibition failed they found another substance that has been used for all of recorded history and demonized it.  Doesn't matter that the cure is worse than the disease, we're going to keep spending millions upon millions of dollars in a futile effort to stop people from doing something some crusty old white guys don't like.

Isn't reefer legal in one form or another for the vast majority of this country?  Seems like we learned the lesson or haven't your heard?

It's not legal anywhere in the country (if you mean the United States). It's listed in the Controlled Substances Act of 1970 as a Schedule I substance, determined to have a high potential for abuse and no accepted medical use - thereby prohibiting even medical use of the drug at the federal level, which overrides every state law to the contrary.

States Rights!

But only when it aligns to my existing values. Because I have no critical thinking skills.


Pesky Supremacy Clause.

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

Article VI, clause 2
 
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