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2020-10-28 10:35:24 AM  
Wow!
Yes, the trailer is long, but Dayummm, it's well done. Love the interview with Kushner.

I would say more but I need to head on down to Cheyenne dialysis (they have a Special!)
 
2020-10-28 11:16:44 AM  
The technology seems to work really well when fake hair/wig is there to cover the blurring of the face at the edges. The Trump/Sassy host was so well done I kept forgetting it was Trump and not just some actor with intentionally bad makeup and hair.
 
2020-10-28 11:17:00 AM  
Nice to see I'm not the only one who misses Paul Lynde
 
2020-10-28 11:19:32 AM  
It's like some kind of bizarre reverse SGC2C
 
2020-10-28 11:24:33 AM  
The damage that these two did in 2016 is something that we're just starting to overcome.  Their whole "douche vs shiat sandwich" thing was such a damaging and ignorant narrative, the sort of shiat that white folks get to indulge in and have nearly no consequences for it.

It's great to want politics to work that way but just damaging to call it out when it has never worked that way and do so at the peril of an election with real consequences.

There is no shiat sandwich big enough for them to eat for that, but I guess I appreciate that they need to try and do something to make up for it.  At least they're owning it.
 
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2020-10-28 11:36:58 AM  

Dhusk: Nice to see I'm not the only one who misses Paul Lynde


That is a horrible Wyoming accent. I did hear a lot of Paul Lynde in what I watched so far.
 
2020-10-28 11:37:42 AM  

Skarekrough: The damage that these two did in 2016 is something that we're just starting to overcome.  Their whole "douche vs shiat sandwich" thing was such a damaging and ignorant narrative, the sort of shiat that white folks get to indulge in and have nearly no consequences for it.

It's great to want politics to work that way but just damaging to call it out when it has never worked that way and do so at the peril of an election with real consequences.

There is no shiat sandwich big enough for them to eat for that, but I guess I appreciate that they need to try and do something to make up for it.  At least they're owning it.


Um. That episode was released in 2004, and was re: Bush/Gore.
 
2020-10-28 11:37:46 AM  

Skarekrough: The damage that these two did in 2016 is something that we're just starting to overcome.  Their whole "douche vs shiat sandwich" thing was such a damaging and ignorant narrative, the sort of shiat that white folks get to indulge in and have nearly no consequences for it.

It's great to want politics to work that way but just damaging to call it out when it has never worked that way and do so at the peril of an election with real consequences.

There is no shiat sandwich big enough for them to eat for that, but I guess I appreciate that they need to try and do something to make up for it.  At least they're owning it.


That's quite a rant over a cartoon.
 
2020-10-28 11:42:40 AM  

phimuskapsi: Um. That episode was released in 2004, and was re: Bush/Gore.


I didn't see it, but I'm pretty sure they revisited the same premise for 2016.
 
2020-10-28 11:45:20 AM  

bfh0417: Skarekrough: The damage that these two did in 2016 is something that we're just starting to overcome.  Their whole "douche vs shiat sandwich" thing was such a damaging and ignorant narrative, the sort of shiat that white folks get to indulge in and have nearly no consequences for it.

It's great to want politics to work that way but just damaging to call it out when it has never worked that way and do so at the peril of an election with real consequences.

There is no shiat sandwich big enough for them to eat for that, but I guess I appreciate that they need to try and do something to make up for it.  At least they're owning it.

That's quite a rant over a cartoon.


Not to mention excusing a horribly-run and dillydallying campaign by the DNC in 2016, forget even considering the episode was made in 2004.
 
2020-10-28 11:51:36 AM  

Private_Citizen: Wow!
Yes, the trailer is long, but Dayummm, it's well done. Love the interview with Kushner.

I would say more but I need to head on down to Cheyenne dialysis (they have a Special!)


Hey can I come with you at lunch? 2 for 1!!
 
2020-10-28 11:52:37 AM  
How is it that South Park is the hot button of modern issues, and has so much influence over everybody, but at the same time, it's a juvenile fart cartoon that makes fun of so many things, it just looks stupid and self-centered?

Or is it part of the evil MEDIA that seek to distort and disturb your ideas about the perfection of our country.

Or you could just not watch it and never know a thing about any of it, but ohmygod, who does THAT?
 
2020-10-28 11:54:46 AM  
That was pretty funny, and the Julie Andrews deep fake was very attractive.
 
2020-10-28 11:55:57 AM  
Nope.  They do too good a job with the deep faking.
 
2020-10-28 12:00:08 PM  
Didn't we just have this post and thread a couple of days ago?


Or did we?!?!?
 
2020-10-28 12:00:34 PM  

bfh0417: Skarekrough: The damage that these two did in 2016 is something that we're just starting to overcome.  Their whole "douche vs shiat sandwich" thing was such a damaging and ignorant narrative, the sort of shiat that white folks get to indulge in and have nearly no consequences for it.

It's great to want politics to work that way but just damaging to call it out when it has never worked that way and do so at the peril of an election with real consequences.

There is no shiat sandwich big enough for them to eat for that, but I guess I appreciate that they need to try and do something to make up for it.  At least they're owning it.

That's quite a rant over a cartoon.


Yeah, it's not like it was the Venture Brothers.
 
2020-10-28 12:20:58 PM  

Skarekrough: The damage that these two did in 2016 is something that we're just starting to overcome.  Their whole "douche vs shiat sandwich" thing was such a damaging and ignorant narrative, the sort of shiat that white folks get to indulge in and have nearly no consequences for it.

It's great to want politics to work that way but just damaging to call it out when it has never worked that way and do so at the peril of an election with real consequences.

There is no shiat sandwich big enough for them to eat for that, but I guess I appreciate that they need to try and do something to make up for it.  At least they're owning it.


If a cartoon can do that much, you're farked well beyond what cartoon it was.

And the only ignorance here is not realizing the very real point being made.
 
2020-10-28 12:22:35 PM  
Funny and a bit unsettling, but damn I laughed at kurchner kid.
 
2020-10-28 12:25:32 PM  

phimuskapsi: Skarekrough: The damage that these two did in 2016 is something that we're just starting to overcome.  Their whole "douche vs shiat sandwich" thing was such a damaging and ignorant narrative, the sort of shiat that white folks get to indulge in and have nearly no consequences for it.

It's great to want politics to work that way but just damaging to call it out when it has never worked that way and do so at the peril of an election with real consequences.

There is no shiat sandwich big enough for them to eat for that, but I guess I appreciate that they need to try and do something to make up for it.  At least they're owning it.

Um. That episode was released in 2004, and was re: Bush/Gore.


Forget it. He's rolling.
 
2020-10-28 12:37:51 PM  

AtomPeepers: bfh0417: Skarekrough: The damage that these two did in 2016 is something that we're just starting to overcome. Their whole "douche vs shiat sandwich" thing was such a damaging and ignorant narrative, the sort of shiat that white folks get to indulge in and have nearly no consequences for it.

It's great to want politics to work that way but just damaging to call it out when it has never worked that way and do so at the peril of an election with real consequences.

There is no shiat sandwich big enough for them to eat for that, but I guess I appreciate that they need to try and do something to make up for it. At least they're owning it.

That's quite a rant over a cartoon.

Yeah, it's not like it was the Venture Brothers.

Dr Jack Badofsky: Not to mention excusing a horribly-run and dillydallying campaign by the DNC in 2016, forget even considering the episode was made in 2004.

phimuskapsi: Um. That episode was released in 2004, and was re: Bush/Gore.

SMB2811: If a cartoon can do that much, you're farked well beyond what cartoon it was.
And the only ignorance here is not realizing the very real point being made.

OtherLittleGuy: Forget it. He's rolling.

The real damage they did, far worse than that even if it had been in 2016 (they did rehash it in 2016 with Hillary as "Ms. Turd Sandwich" and Garrison becoming a Trump clone as "Mr. Giant Douche" which may be what Skarekrough was referring to) and which they only a couple seasons ago finally tried to repent of, was ManBearPig. Not just the initial episode, but its cameo later on in the "ImaginationLand" trilogy as a denizen of ImaginationLand and thus not real. More recently ManBearPig was finally admitted to be real in the "Cereal" two-parter (their attempt at repentance).

goodncold: Private_Citizen: Wow!
Yes, the trailer is long, but Dayummm, it's well done. Love the interview with Kushner.

I would say more but I need to head on down to Cheyenne dialysis (they have a Special!)

Hey can I come with you at lunch? 2 for 1!!

Not a trailer. The first episode. Subby was wrong. It's a YouTube series, and that was the first episode. The closest thing to a trailer was the much shorter second video with just the "Jared Kushner" segment.
 
2020-10-28 12:57:53 PM  
Let's not forget Team America where they both skewered folks who were rightly against the war in Iraq but managed to leave the author of that war George W. Bush untouched.

Not exactly a profile in courage or common sense.
 
2020-10-28 1:14:06 PM  

Skarekrough: The damage that these two did in 2016 is something that we're just starting to overcome.  Their whole "douche vs shiat sandwich" thing was such a damaging and ignorant narrative, the sort of shiat that white folks get to indulge in and have nearly no consequences for it.

It's great to want politics to work that way but just damaging to call it out when it has never worked that way and do so at the peril of an election with real consequences.

There is no shiat sandwich big enough for them to eat for that, but I guess I appreciate that they need to try and do something to make up for it.  At least they're owning it.


I guess if you're the kind of drooling idiot who only votes/votes a particular way due to a satirical cartoon or because a celebrity tells you to, then your country's already farking dumb enough to start with.
 
2020-10-28 1:14:18 PM  

Blathering Idjut: Let's not forget Team America where they both skewered folks who were rightly against the war in Iraq but managed to leave the author of that war George W. Bush untouched.

Not exactly a profile in courage or common sense.


Because they used to be the complete icon of the comfortable white technocrat for whom treating politics with such frivolity is just another privilege.

Many of those same technocrats thought they were a lot smarter than they actually were, and it wasn't hard to manipulate them into creating the tea party and becoming proto-Trumpists.
 
2020-10-28 1:19:33 PM  

Mr_Vimes: Skarekrough: The damage that these two did in 2016 is something that we're just starting to overcome.  Their whole "douche vs shiat sandwich" thing was such a damaging and ignorant narrative, the sort of shiat that white folks get to indulge in and have nearly no consequences for it.

It's great to want politics to work that way but just damaging to call it out when it has never worked that way and do so at the peril of an election with real consequences.

There is no shiat sandwich big enough for them to eat for that, but I guess I appreciate that they need to try and do something to make up for it.  At least they're owning it.

I guess if you're the kind of drooling idiot who only votes/votes a particular way due to a satirical cartoon or because a celebrity tells you to, then your country's already farking dumb enough to start with.


The only reason Donald Trump is the President is because he was famous and on TV a lot. Dismiss pop-culture's influence over the public at your own peril
 
2020-10-28 1:24:14 PM  

Skarekrough: The damage that these two did in 2016 is something that we're just starting to overcome.  Their whole "douche vs shiat sandwich" thing was such a damaging and ignorant narrative, the sort of shiat that white folks get to indulge in and have nearly no consequences for it.

It's great to want politics to work that way but just damaging to call it out when it has never worked that way and do so at the peril of an election with real consequences.

There is no shiat sandwich big enough for them to eat for that, but I guess I appreciate that they need to try and do something to make up for it.  At least they're owning it.


/username checks out
//If you only had a brain
 
2020-10-28 1:25:14 PM  
Has anyone made the False Equivalency argument yet? Because South Park likes to use False Equivalency a lot.

Probably a False Equivalency.
 
2020-10-28 1:26:19 PM  

gyruss: Blathering Idjut: Let's not forget Team America where they both skewered folks who were rightly against the war in Iraq but managed to leave the author of that war George W. Bush untouched.

Not exactly a profile in courage or common sense.

Because they used to be the complete icon of the comfortable white technocrat for whom treating politics with such frivolity is just another privilege.

Many of those same technocrats thought they were a lot smarter than they actually were, and it wasn't hard to manipulate them into creating the tea party and becoming proto-Trumpists.


All South Park did was put a metaphor to what a lot of people were already thinking. They didn't invent voter dissatisfaction, they just wrote some jokes around it.

Blaming them for spotting a trend only shows how much more observant they are than you.
 
2020-10-28 1:30:05 PM  

TDWCom29: The only reason Donald Trump is the President is because he was famous and on TV a lot. Dismiss pop-culture's influence over the public at your own peril


He was on his own show for years, if you want to point fingers, start there. South Park is clearly not driving the Trump base.
 
2020-10-28 1:33:35 PM  

phimuskapsi: TDWCom29: The only reason Donald Trump is the President is because he was famous and on TV a lot. Dismiss pop-culture's influence over the public at your own peril

He was on his own show for years, if you want to point fingers, start there. South Park is clearly not driving the Trump base.


I'm not blaming South Park for Donald Trump. I'm just pointing out that saying "Oh you'd have to be stupid to think TV influences people" is, well, stupid given all the proof otherwise
 
2020-10-28 1:41:41 PM  

cryinoutloud: How is it that South Park is the hot button of modern issues, and has so much influence over everybody, but at the same time, it's a juvenile fart cartoon that makes fun of so many things, it just looks stupid and self-centered?

Or is it part of the evil MEDIA that seek to distort and disturb your ideas about the perfection of our country.

Or you could just not watch it and never know a thing about any of it, but ohmygod, who does THAT?


I've never watched it, but I was dragged to one of the movies - something about blaming Canada for everything.
 
2020-10-28 2:05:16 PM  

EdgeRunner: gyruss: Blathering Idjut: Let's not forget Team America where they both skewered folks who were rightly against the war in Iraq but managed to leave the author of that war George W. Bush untouched.

Not exactly a profile in courage or common sense.

Because they used to be the complete icon of the comfortable white technocrat for whom treating politics with such frivolity is just another privilege.

Many of those same technocrats thought they were a lot smarter than they actually were, and it wasn't hard to manipulate them into creating the tea party and becoming proto-Trumpists.

All South Park did was put a metaphor to what a lot of people were already thinking. They didn't invent voter dissatisfaction, they just wrote some jokes around it.

Blaming them for spotting a trend only shows how much more observant they are than you.


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2020-10-28 2:06:05 PM  

Skarekrough: The damage that these two did in 2016 is something that we're just starting to overcome.  Their whole "douche vs shiat sandwich" thing was such a damaging and ignorant narrative, the sort of shiat that white folks get to indulge in and have nearly no consequences for it.

It's great to want politics to work that way but just damaging to call it out when it has never worked that way and do so at the peril of an election with real consequences.

There is no shiat sandwich big enough for them to eat for that, but I guess I appreciate that they need to try and do something to make up for it.  At least they're owning it.


IIRC that was a 2012 thing.  During 2016, they ran a season long plot of Mr. Garrison as a woefully incompetent buffoon hopelessly out of his depth running against Hillary.
 
2020-10-28 2:07:23 PM  

phimuskapsi: Skarekrough: The damage that these two did in 2016 is something that we're just starting to overcome.  Their whole "douche vs shiat sandwich" thing was such a damaging and ignorant narrative, the sort of shiat that white folks get to indulge in and have nearly no consequences for it.

It's great to want politics to work that way but just damaging to call it out when it has never worked that way and do so at the peril of an election with real consequences.

There is no shiat sandwich big enough for them to eat for that, but I guess I appreciate that they need to try and do something to make up for it.  At least they're owning it.

Um. That episode was released in 2004, and was re: Bush/Gore.


Forget it, he's rolling. There's never a reason to demand more out of the candidate you somewhat support
 
2020-10-28 2:15:39 PM  

EdgeRunner: gyruss: Blathering Idjut: Let's not forget Team America where they both skewered folks who were rightly against the war in Iraq but managed to leave the author of that war George W. Bush untouched.

Not exactly a profile in courage or common sense.

Because they used to be the complete icon of the comfortable white technocrat for whom treating politics with such frivolity is just another privilege.

Many of those same technocrats thought they were a lot smarter than they actually were, and it wasn't hard to manipulate them into creating the tea party and becoming proto-Trumpists.

All South Park did was put a metaphor to what a lot of people were already thinking. They didn't invent voter dissatisfaction, they just wrote some jokes around it.

Blaming them for spotting a trend only shows how much more observant they are than you.


So your contention is that South Park is not a reflection of Parker's personal opinions?
 
2020-10-28 3:00:43 PM  
Donald Trump does a good job of changing his voice in this- who would of thought that he could do comedy?
 
2020-10-28 3:17:16 PM  

EdgeRunner: gyruss: Blathering Idjut: Let's not forget Team America where they both skewered folks who were rightly against the war in Iraq but managed to leave the author of that war George W. Bush untouched.

Not exactly a profile in courage or common sense.

Because they used to be the complete icon of the comfortable white technocrat for whom treating politics with such frivolity is just another privilege.

Many of those same technocrats thought they were a lot smarter than they actually were, and it wasn't hard to manipulate them into creating the tea party and becoming proto-Trumpists.

All South Park did was put a metaphor to what a lot of people were already thinking. They didn't invent voter dissatisfaction, they just wrote some jokes around it.

Blaming them for spotting a trend only shows how much more observant they are than you.


You're awful defensive about it.

So, where do you draw the line between enabling stupidity and encouraging it? Parker and Stone got rich doing nonzero amounts of both, so yeah, they have some blame to redeem.
 
2020-10-28 3:22:51 PM  
ITT: People who swallowed the message whole argue that an entire generation of telling people that only super intelligent edgy winners like them realize that BSAB and caring or trying too hard is uncool had no effect on anything because they're way too edgy and intelligent to be influenced.
 
2020-10-28 3:49:59 PM  
The majority of people I talked to in 2016 weren't excited about voting for either candidate.  A lot of them were actually pissed off that the choices were so lousy.  Either they were all watching South Park, or South Park was reflecting a phenomenon that existed.

As a lifelong liberal, I wish some of you would stop saying that the solution to all of our problems is to make people shut up.
 
2020-10-28 4:01:35 PM  
Oh look, there's one now.
 
2020-10-28 4:02:12 PM  

Naido: The majority of people I talked to in 2016 weren't excited about voting for either candidate.  A lot of them were actually pissed off that the choices were so lousy.  Either they were all watching South Park, or South Park was reflecting a phenomenon that existed.

As a lifelong liberal, I wish some of you would stop saying that the solution to all of our problems is to make people shut up.


I don't think it's a matter of making people shut up, it's about getting people to look at the two parties and candidates with some nuance and why they aren't both exactly the same or equally shiatty.
 
2020-10-28 4:04:50 PM  
Their original songs are always the best.  First line is a creampie in the face.  Love it
 
2020-10-28 4:16:26 PM  

TheCubsFan: Naido: The majority of people I talked to in 2016 weren't excited about voting for either candidate.  A lot of them were actually pissed off that the choices were so lousy.  Either they were all watching South Park, or South Park was reflecting a phenomenon that existed.

As a lifelong liberal, I wish some of you would stop saying that the solution to all of our problems is to make people shut up.

I don't think it's a matter of making people shut up, it's about getting people to look at the two parties and candidates with some nuance and why they aren't both exactly the same or equally shiatty.


If you actually watched it, which I didn't do until this year, they did.  Garrison was a complete buffoon while Hillary represented competence.  There were even episodes where he endorsed her ideas, told people to vote for her, and it just made people want to vote for him even more.

They actually did a pretty spectacular job of representing voters.  The problem is the reality, not the art that reflects it.  It's funny, I spent 25 or more years having this argument with moral majority conservatives.
 
2020-10-28 4:18:32 PM  
That was way better than I expected.

I'd say LMAO, but mrs bughunter says I have no ass.

/assless white guy
 
2020-10-28 4:31:58 PM  
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2020-10-28 5:56:23 PM  

Skarekrough: The damage that these two did in 2016 is something that we're just starting to overcome.  Their whole "douche vs shiat sandwich" thing was such a damaging and ignorant narrative, the sort of shiat that white folks get to indulge in and have nearly no consequences for it.

It's great to want politics to work that way but just damaging to call it out when it has never worked that way and do so at the peril of an election with real consequences.

There is no shiat sandwich big enough for them to eat for that, but I guess I appreciate that they need to try and do something to make up for it.  At least they're owning it.


Show me on the doll where Matt & Trey hurt you.
 
2020-10-28 5:59:13 PM  
Oh man - this show has serious potential.
I laughed WAY out loud during the Kushner interview.
 
2020-10-28 8:04:22 PM  

Skarekrough: The damage that these two did in 2016 is something that we're just starting to overcome.  Their whole "douche vs shiat sandwich" thing was such a damaging and ignorant narrative, the sort of shiat that white folks get to indulge in and have nearly no consequences for it.

It's great to want politics to work that way but just damaging to call it out when it has never worked that way and do so at the peril of an election with real consequences.

There is no shiat sandwich big enough for them to eat for that, but I guess I appreciate that they need to try and do something to make up for it.  At least they're owning it.


Oh, come on.  I find them as annoying as any Farker here, and the douche vs shiat sandwich and we are better than either side because we are in the middle schtick make me want to punch them.

But I don't think I would put 2016 on them in any significant way.  Yes, they might have influenced some votes, but there's more significant systemic and societal factors at play if your electorate takes their cues from south park.

If I made a list for who is at fault for 2016, might out them in at #50.
 
2020-10-28 8:11:20 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: phimuskapsi: Um. That episode was released in 2004, and was re: Bush/Gore.

I didn't see it, but I'm pretty sure they revisited the same premise for 2016.


Their most damaging premise was that if you were in any way opinionated about an issue, you were an asshole because only people in the middle were smart or nuanced enough.  They visited it over and over, even trying to apply it to alcoholism (being completely sober makes you an asshole, being an alcoholic makes you an asshole, can't you just drink a little?).

Nevermind there's issues that shouldn't have a middle ground.  You should be firmly against them, and having an opinion about them shouldn't make you an asshole in matt and Trey's world.

South Park started out so well.  It was irreverent and didn't take itself seriously.  Then they really got into themselves and started with their "middle makes us better" schtick and they got real old real fast.

fark them.
 
2020-10-28 8:39:22 PM  

Naido: TheCubsFan: Naido: The majority of people I talked to in 2016 weren't excited about voting for either candidate.  A lot of them were actually pissed off that the choices were so lousy.  Either they were all watching South Park, or South Park was reflecting a phenomenon that existed.

As a lifelong liberal, I wish some of you would stop saying that the solution to all of our problems is to make people shut up.

I don't think it's a matter of making people shut up, it's about getting people to look at the two parties and candidates with some nuance and why they aren't both exactly the same or equally shiatty.

If you actually watched it, which I didn't do until this year, they did.  Garrison was a complete buffoon while Hillary represented competence.  There were even episodes where he endorsed her ideas, told people to vote for her, and it just made people want to vote for him even more.

They actually did a pretty spectacular job of representing voters.  The problem is the reality, not the art that reflects it.  It's funny, I spent 25 or more years having this argument with moral majority conservatives.


I think I stopped watching the show around the time that garrison trump character was being fleshed out.  And it was actually a breath of fresh air for them to firmy take a side on something, but they had lost me by that point. Maybe I grew out of the humor too.
 
2020-10-29 12:24:57 AM  

rga184: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: phimuskapsi: Um. That episode was released in 2004, and was re: Bush/Gore.

I didn't see it, but I'm pretty sure they revisited the same premise for 2016.

Their most damaging premise was that if you were in any way opinionated about an issue, you were an asshole because only people in the middle were smart or nuanced enough.  They visited it over and over, even trying to apply it to alcoholism (being completely sober makes you an asshole, being an alcoholic makes you an asshole, can't you just drink a little?).

Nevermind there's issues that shouldn't have a middle ground.  You should be firmly against them, and having an opinion about them shouldn't make you an asshole in matt and Trey's world.

South Park started out so well.  It was irreverent and didn't take itself seriously.  Then they really got into themselves and started with their "middle makes us better" schtick and they got real old real fast.

fark them.


You decided you didn't agree with them and stopped watching? Impossible! According to this thread, they're irresistable Svengalis who turned you into a dirty centrist who no longer votes.

Stop your lies about having independent thought and admit that South Park rules your mind! It rules all our minds! Such is their power, even over those who never saw the show!

/since the family isn't getting together this Thanksgiving, I'm going to give my phone its own seat and let Fark stand in for the crazy uncle who annoys everyone with his dumb political conspiracy ideas.

//I don't actually have an uncle who talks politics at the Thanksgiving table, so this is my chance to see what that's like.
 
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