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(NYPost)   Disabled FDNY firefighter gets 136k disability. Doesn't stop him from being a stuntman. Will he become a fall guy?   (nypost.com) divider line
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2020-10-28 12:58:20 AM  
Oh what BS.  There are are a lot of amputees who work as stunt people.

oh. Oh.  oH.  OH...

Maybe NYFD and NYPD (there are similar articles about NYPD) have a bit of a problem with fraud in their union contracts.
 
2020-10-28 1:07:26 AM  
Disability fraud in New York? Fugeddaboutit...
 
2020-10-28 1:07:57 AM  
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2020-10-28 1:11:12 AM  
Is he the guy in the flame suit that runs around waving his arms?
 
2020-10-28 1:13:50 AM  
Not gonna click on links to the NYPost.
 
2020-10-28 1:14:39 AM  
Do you have a link that isn't from the "Might makes Reich" NY Post or Faux Noise?
 
2020-10-28 1:15:11 AM  
Short falls on his stunt resume while on a spinal injury disability. Sure.
 
2020-10-28 1:20:19 AM  
What kind of stunts?

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2020-10-28 1:21:48 AM  
Many police departments base the policeman's pension on the total of the last year's salary inclusive of overtime.

BLM protests are causing a LOT of overtime by various police departments.

BLM protesters are enriching the very people they are protesting to a huge degree.
 
2020-10-28 1:22:33 AM  

ShavedOrangutan: Oh what BS.  There are are a lot of amputees who work as stunt people.

oh. Oh.  oH.  OH...

Maybe NYFD and NYPD (there are similar articles about NYPD) have a bit of a problem with fraud in their union contracts.


He claimed spinal injuries while saying he can do falls under 30 feet. Someone with a disabling spinal injury prolly should be avoiding ANY kind of fall
 
2020-10-28 1:28:28 AM  
CSB: I had a neighbour who worked a really physically demanding job. He got hurt badly at work and blew out his knee. They gave him disability. So a number of people in our neighbourhood helped out with lawn mowing, snow shoveling, etc.

Three years go by and he's starting to get careless. He's hobbling on the wrong knee, walking normal at times, etc. (He's a functional alcoholic and probably forgot which knee was hurt). The government goes "Hey you've been on disability a long time. We booked you an appointment to get an x-ray and a few other scans to check out your knee."

Well he freaks out. His wife calms him down and sends him to get the scans done.

His knee had healed well enough that he could have worked probably 2 years ago. His wife was furious at him. The neighbourhood was furious at him. He threw a giant hissy fit about having to go back to work instead of sitting on the couch drinking beer all day.

/they wound up moving
//the first time I met him he yelled "Get a job, boy!", tried to walk up his stairs and fell on his face
///apparently he still whines about being kicked off disability and having to pay some of it back
 
2020-10-28 1:31:12 AM  
The article says 3/4th

And, movie work is not constant work. Or even the same work all the time.

This job lets take parts he's comfortable with. And work as much as a little as his body is letting him work
 
2020-10-28 1:36:21 AM  

waxbeans: The article says 3/4th

And, movie work is not constant work. Or even the same work all the time.

This job lets take parts he's comfortable with. And work as much as a little as his body is letting him work


"3/4th?"
 
2020-10-28 1:38:45 AM  
"Just because you're a stuntman doesn't mean you're exerting a great amount of activity. It can be total benign work. He's doing stunts that are not physically exerting.

i loved his work in my dinner with andre. he did all of wallace shawn's close-up eyebrow raises
 
2020-10-28 1:51:44 AM  
That much for a firefighter? Why did I go to college again?
 
2020-10-28 1:56:27 AM  

MrScruffles: That much for a firefighter? Why did I go to college again?


To not have to risk your life in backbreaking labor on 24 hour working periods for decades of your life?
 
2020-10-28 2:09:11 AM  

MrScruffles: That much for a firefighter? Why did I go to college again?


Because you were lied to.

You probably think you "got an education" at college, too!
 
2020-10-28 2:29:06 AM  
Hopefully his wife won't die in a freak spearfishing accident aboard his boat.
 
2020-10-28 2:48:32 AM  

NEDM: MrScruffles: That much for a firefighter? Why did I go to college again?

To not have to risk your life in backbreaking labor on 24 hour working periods for decades of your life?


I spotted the imposter guys.  He was claiming back breaking labor for a job that's 60% first responder calls and isn't even in the top 10 deadliest.
 
2020-10-28 2:51:46 AM  
I was just curious if it was another one of those white suprenacist professions and it looks like 75% white non-hispanic, 8% white-hispanic, etc.

Not going to lie, even before my Weeners I knew the reason behind both.  God bless this evil country of ours.  Though to be fair, less sus on fireman than police.
 
2020-10-28 3:11:07 AM  
My neighbor retired on a 3/4 disability as a Sargent with the NYPD. He dug out his entire basement by himself despite his shoulder injury falling down a flight of stairs.
I saw him out in the yard taking a sledgehammer to his shed and asked him what he was doing and he told me " sometimes the bear eats the man sometimes the man eats the bear".
God bless him and his shoulder.
 
2020-10-28 3:12:50 AM  

BafflerMeal: waxbeans: The article says 3/4th

And, movie work is not constant work. Or even the same work all the time.

This job lets take parts he's comfortable with. And work as much as a little as his body is letting him work

"3/4th?"


Asking it questions only ends in more questions and they get weirder as you go.
 
2020-10-28 3:21:18 AM  
Disability fraud really pisses me off. That sort of BDS is part of the reason why it is so hard to get disability. Even disability where you retrain to do a different job. Giving you 50% to 75% of your original wage doesn't make any sense either for retraining or permanent disability. Just because you are disabled doesn't mean you don't have most of the same expenses and more that offset any saved money or transportation. Claiming it encourages the recipient to get back to work is entirely detached from reality. Get back to what work? They are disabled or currently retraining to be able to return to work already!

With current technology, it would be pretty easy to find frauds, so the "enticements" and reasons for strict screening are just excuses to try and deny any disability claim. Strange how so many want a return to watching people starve and suffer in the streets when we are the richest country in the world. Its like they are trying to distract from something.
 
2020-10-28 3:41:30 AM  

Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist: BafflerMeal: waxbeans: The article says 3/4th

And, movie work is not constant work. Or even the same work all the time.

This job lets take parts he's comfortable with. And work as much as a little as his body is letting him work

"3/4th?"

Asking it questions only ends in more questions and they get weirder as you go.


It's in the fu*king article
The FDNY's practice of awarding of three-quarter disability pensions has b........
 
2020-10-28 4:09:04 AM  

ShavedOrangutan: Oh what BS.  There are are a lot of amputees who work as stunt people.

oh. Oh.  oH.  OH...

Maybe NYFD and NYPD (there are similar articles about NYPD) have a bit of a problem with fraud in their union contracts.


My understanding is that before green screen and CGI become commonplace, people missing limbs were perfect for sword battle movies.
Don't quote me, though, it's an old memory.
 
2020-10-28 4:30:06 AM  
FDNY is a brand name.

And like all brand names, they're overpriced and rife with problems.

/hey deblasio why is FDNY ems making 1/2 what a ff Private does?
 
2020-10-28 5:02:29 AM  

hardinparamedic: FDNY is a brand name.

And like all brand names, they're overpriced and rife with problems.

/hey deblasio why is FDNY ems making 1/2 what a ff Private does?


They have a union that always donates to the winning side of the Mayor's race in NYC. Political favors and reelection cash is worth more than gold.

\want fair pay? Form a Union.
\\then watch it try and control politics and ignore its original purpose
\\\we need a better solution
 
2020-10-28 5:45:15 AM  

MrScruffles: NEDM: MrScruffles: That much for a firefighter? Why did I go to college again?

To not have to risk your life in backbreaking labor on 24 hour working periods for decades of your life?

I spotted the imposter guys.  He was claiming back breaking labor for a job that's 60% first responder calls and isn't even in the top 10 deadliest.


Oh, only 40% of the time you're called out to fight a fire, with the expectation to go into a farking inferno to save other people if they're inside?  Practically a cakewalk.  First responder calls?  Shiat, anyone can do those!  We should be paying those guys who've made it over two decades in service minimum wage; they clearly don't do shiat!

I don't know why you're on a "GOTCHA!" bent for farking firefighters, and it doesn't make sense.

MrScruffles: Not going to lie, even before my Weeners I knew the reason behind both. God bless this evil country of ours. Though to be fair, less sus on fireman than police.


...firefighters are now evil white supremacists.  Ooooookaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay...
 
2020-10-28 6:07:20 AM  
"There's nothing to hide here," he said. "Just because you're a stuntman doesn't mean you're exerting a great amount of activity. It can be total benign work. He's doing stunts that are not physically exerting. There's no fraud here."

If it's totally benign and not physically exerting, why would they need a stuntman?
 
2020-10-28 6:09:51 AM  

MrScruffles: I was just curious if it was another one of those white suprenacist professions and it looks like 75% white non-hispanic, 8% white-hispanic, etc.

Not going to lie, even before my Weeners I knew the reason behind both.  God bless this evil country of ours.  Though to be fair, less sus on fireman than police.


Take your meds.
 
2020-10-28 7:29:20 AM  

Hoopy Frood: If it's totally benign and not physically exerting, why would they need a stuntman?


Because why lose a valuable famous face over a minor injury?
 
2020-10-28 7:51:06 AM  
But will he wind up in the hay? A-hey-hey?
 
2020-10-28 8:19:24 AM  
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2020-10-28 8:27:10 AM  

Alien Robot: Many police departments base the policeman's pension on the total of the last year's salary inclusive of overtime.

BLM protests are causing a LOT of overtime by various police departments.

BLM protesters are enriching the very people they are protesting to a huge degree.


That's clever. BLM isn't protesting the pay for LEO, or their pensions. They are protesting the shooting of people when there are many alternatives, and the general treatment of minorities when they interact with them.
 
2020-10-28 8:31:55 AM  

MrScruffles: NEDM: MrScruffles: That much for a firefighter? Why did I go to college again?

To not have to risk your life in backbreaking labor on 24 hour working periods for decades of your life?

I spotted the imposter guys.  He was claiming back breaking labor for a job that's 60% first responder calls and isn't even in the top 10 deadliest.


Meh. "Deadliest" or "dangerous" is spread fairly unevenly in the US fire service. Any given garbage collector has a fairly steady risk of a workplace accident - getting his hand caught in the machinery, getting backed over by a truck, whatever.

Especially if the firefighting numbers include volunteers, the risk is not equal.   A guy in FDNY has an outsized risk compared to a guy in rural Vermont, and a different kind of risk from a guy out in the San Bernardino desert.  Indeed, there's a different risk within FDNY - ~10,000 firefighters, more than some smaller states have. There is a different risk in being assigned to a slow area in Staten Island and a busy house in the Bronx.

There are small departments that have existed for 150 years and have never seen a line of duty death. New York is good for a couple guys killed a year. Boston loses a couple every few years. Worcester, for such a small department, has seen a huge amount of loss. Houston has seen a lot of loss in the last few decades.

But you know what?  It doesn't matter if it's the "most" anything. The difference between a firefighter and a commercial fisherman is that the commercial fisherman gets hurt by accident, the fisherman did not intend to put himself in a position to get hurt. The firefighter intentionally inserts himself into the dangerous situation for some kind of gain for others. Save their life, save their house, save their photo album, save the neighbor's house.

And quite frankly, as someone who has put over 100 hours in at the firehouse in the last 7 days, 24 on the ambulance yesterday wearing my COVID suit for much of the time, you can fark right off worrying about whether my job is more orless dangerous than some other. Unless you're a roofer, garbageman, or tuna fisherman, judging the risk I've put myself at during my career as "insufficiently dangerous" is outside your ken.
 
2020-10-28 9:01:40 AM  
I can't believe I got caught!

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2020-10-28 9:06:29 AM  

red5ish: Not gonna click on links to the NYPost.


Thanks for the update. I'll file that with my morning dump.
 
2020-10-28 9:07:09 AM  

AgentKGB: Do you have a link that isn't from the "Might makes Reich" NY Post or Faux Noise?


No. Now go away.
 
2020-10-28 9:11:08 AM  

Alien Robot: BLM protests Thug cops and Boogaloo Bois are causing a LOT of overtime by various police departments.

 
2020-10-28 9:12:36 AM  

MrScruffles: NEDM: MrScruffles: That much for a firefighter? Why did I go to college again?

To not have to risk your life in backbreaking labor on 24 hour working periods for decades of your life?

I spotted the imposter guys.  He was claiming back breaking labor for a job that's 60% first responder calls and isn't even in the top 10 deadliest.


No, they just get cancer more often due to all the shiat in burning buildings.

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/pgms/workno​t​ify/pdfs/ff-cancer-factsheet-final-508​.pdf
 
2020-10-28 9:20:51 AM  

kendelrio: Disability fraud in New York? Fugeddaboutit...


Oh, it ain't just NYC.  I'm in a small village on the other side of the state, and I can think of 3 cops who did the same thing.
 
2020-10-28 10:11:35 AM  

Al Tsheimers: Alien Robot: Many police departments base the policeman's pension on the total of the last year's salary inclusive of overtime.

BLM protests are causing a LOT of overtime by various police departments.

BLM protesters are enriching the very people they are protesting to a huge degree.

That's clever. BLM isn't protesting the pay for LEO, or their pensions. They are protesting the shooting of people when there are many alternatives, and the general treatment of minorities when they interact with them.


OK, so BLM protests are enriching the pensions of people who shoot people when there are alternatives and enriching the people who mistreat minorities they interact with. Seems counterproductive to me, but you go with that. A-C-A-B, but let's increase their pension by 30%, that'll teach 'em!
 
2020-10-28 12:06:36 PM  
Just so you know, you can't spot all disabilities easily.  I have a very, very debilitating neurological disorder... right now, about 70% of my time is being spent in a wheelchair.  I can walk, I do yoga every day, sometimes I do stupid things like rollerblade and fall and bruise myself.  I can promise you that the overwhelming majority of people with my disorder wouldn't do the things I do.  I just do not care, life is too short and there are too many things to try.  It's probably also why I beat this once into remission and will do so again.

I'm quite literally losing control of my body and have a disorder along the lines of parkinsons or huntingtons.  On a bad day I'm not able to stand for long without falling.  I look like someone who's in perfect shape, thin, tall, muscular.   You might not even notice though if I'm up walking around, but my body could fail me at any moment.
 
2020-10-28 12:27:25 PM  

Resident Muslim: My understanding is that before green screen and CGI become commonplace, people missing limbs were perfect for sword battle movies.


"The Walking Dead" employs a lot of folks who are missing a limb.
 
2020-10-28 2:38:43 PM  

Alien Robot: Al Tsheimers: Alien Robot: Many police departments base the policeman's pension on the total of the last year's salary inclusive of overtime.

BLM protests are causing a LOT of overtime by various police departments.

BLM protesters are enriching the very people they are protesting to a huge degree.

That's clever. BLM isn't protesting the pay for LEO, or their pensions. They are protesting the shooting of people when there are many alternatives, and the general treatment of minorities when they interact with them.

OK, so BLM protests are enriching the pensions of people who shoot people when there are alternatives and enriching the people who mistreat minorities they interact with. Seems counterproductive to me, but you go with that. A-C-A-B, but let's increase their pension by 30%, that'll teach 'em!


You seem to be overly concerned about money, while protesters are concerned about people losing their lives for no good reason. We all have our priorities, and yours are clear.
 
2020-10-29 12:00:57 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: \want fair pay? Form a Union.


They have a Union.
 
2020-10-29 12:02:19 AM  

NEDM: ...firefighters are now evil white supremacists.  Ooooookaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay..


Well, I mean...
 
2020-10-29 12:46:52 AM  

Al Tsheimers: You seem to be overly concerned about money, while protesters are concerned about people losing their lives for no good reason.


The protesters concerned about people losing their lives for no good reason are rewarding the very people who take those lives for not good reason with substantial monetary increases to their pensions. Not very smart. But, hey, judging from your cоmments that was never in doubt was it?
 
2020-10-29 7:29:48 AM  

waxbeans: Hoopy Frood: If it's totally benign and not physically exerting, why would they need a stuntman?

Because why lose a valuable famous face over a minor injury?


That wouldn't be "totally benign".
 
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